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04-21-2020, 07:54 PM
TheRealThing Wrote:No. You're not going to give me the hocker on a doorknob slidestep this time. I prefaced posting the link with factual information that precludes the possibility of the injection of anybody's personal bias. All the items which make up the factual timeline are cited from newspaper articles, dated interview clips from the various news agencies, and though they are admittedly laughable, dated statements from those agencies reporting efforts. Not to mention a very replete record of Dem denials and scoffing at federal efforts to thwart the pandemics arrival in the US.
So you know what you can do with your flush. You have no choice when confronted with facts except to go brain dead full-bull liberal, and that reaction is predictable among the willfully ignorant. Kentucky flattened the curve because we are far less urban than NYC. However, the Louisville area is equally far more urban as compared to the rest of the state, and the CV statistics from that area consequently far eclipse the statistics for the rest of the state. Cuomo et-al were blowing off the CV threat one minute, and literally the next minute in order to escape just due for their own miserable failures, they were slamming the President. You couldn't get on board fast enough.
Saw a big dramatic picture of the temporary, totally empty hospital set up at UK's Nutter Field House. You said yourself the curve for this state has begun to flatten. Kentucky has thrown more money at this thing already than reason could possibly dictate, so where's the justification? In my town we have a major medical facility sitting empty. No procedures, no diagnoses, no treatments of any kind for the most part. And why? Because we're still worried about an existential onslaught of CV, I guess. In the meantime lots of folks with imminently serious, if not fatal real time threats are in queue until the CV pandemic resolves. In the best case important or detrimental issues will be missed, and the ramifications for having missed those issues could mean peoples lives will be gravely impacted. Anybody other than me see a moral conflict in that tack?
Wrong, I was slamming the President and Cuomo and Deblasio. All three are to blame for the disaster in New York. Any other Democrat or Republican in power that didn't take this serious.
Just not listening to Hannity blather. The buck stops at the President's desk especially when you are dealing with an international incident.
You never answered. If China did this intentionally would the federal govt. be responsible?
I sure hope those are never used.
TheRealThing Wrote:Even in the face of all this you cannot let the civil rights steed run free can you? Where are your civil rights at this point Cardfan? You're just getting the first little taste of being stripped of your rights to live freely. Believe me, when you compare this to what is to come, today will seem like utopia.
But where Trump is concerned and his understanding of the law. His is far better than your own "new" and recent ascension to constitutional scholarship. Trump is advised by the best. And their viability in such matters are being tested by the other side's 'best' continually. You may have noticed that the vast majority of the time Trump wins in court. And all I can tell you is if you can't experience embarrassment for yourself, you would do well in not diagnosing situations where others should be embarrassed. Especially in the case of a man far superior to yourself.
ABTW, in your case I doubt that a "wall hit" is going to do the trick. As soon as elective procedures are back on, you might want to give the lobotomy route a try. :biggrin:
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04-21-2020, 09:29 PM
Cardfan1 Wrote:Wrong, I was slamming the President and Cuomo and Deblasio. All three are to blame for the disaster in New York. Any other Democrat or Republican in power that didn't take this serious.
Just not listening to Hannity blather. The buck stops at the President's desk especially when you are dealing with an international incident.
You never answered. If China did this intentionally would the federal govt. be responsible?
I sure hope those are never used.
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Well then as I have said, it obviously skipped a desk during the Obama era. But you know Cardfan, it's really hard for me to believe you're not Urban Sombrero's retread. Like him, you mimic my writing style, inflection, vocabulary, all of it. And nobody can project better than you.
Hannity's opinion isn't the issue here. And not that the following in any way dismisses or fails to recognize your weak efforts to deflect. But I'll play along a bit, so here goes; It is whether in your mind I guess, if his and his staff's sourcing abilities are adequate, and only a total bozo would argue to the contrary. I mean, how long do you think the Murdoch family would tolerate inaccuracies that may expose them to the law suits certain to be headed their way for airing falsehoods? Hannity would be gone long ago.
On this matter Hannity has his ducks in a row so tight that even a laser beam could not reveal fault. But you go ahead and shelter in place not only from CV, but from the truth as well. Why throw away a lifetime of denial?
If it was an international incident, that would demonstrate just how desperate our chief competition is to get rid of Trump.
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04-22-2020, 02:12 PM
TheRealThing Wrote:Well then as I have said, it obviously skipped a desk during the Obama era. But you know Cardfan, it's really hard for me to believe you're not Urban Sombrero's retread. Like him, you mimic my writing style, inflection, vocabulary, all of it. And nobody can project better than you.
Hannity's opinion isn't the issue here. And not that the following in any way dismisses or fails to recognize your weak efforts to deflect. But I'll play along a bit, so here goes; It is whether in your mind I guess, if his and his staff's sourcing abilities are adequate, and only a total bozo would argue to the contrary. I mean, how long do you think the Murdoch family would tolerate inaccuracies that may expose them to the law suits certain to be headed their way for airing falsehoods? Hannity would be gone long ago.
On this matter Hannity has his ducks in a row so tight that even a laser beam could not reveal fault. But you go ahead and shelter in place not only from CV, but from the truth as well. Why throw away a lifetime of denial?
If it was an international incident, that would demonstrate just how desperate our chief competition is to get rid of Trump.
Sorry, I'm not that fella.
Fox only pretends to believe what they say on television to make money, and Hannity is their cash cow. So far on the Coronavirus crisis they have been wrong at every corner from Hoax, "the flu", Trump's miracle drug, Blaming Governor's, liberate states movement, and numerous other attempts to distract viewers from the lackluster effort by the administration. Today it's "look at these democrats who were wrong."
Talking about the sidestep hook and ladder...:blabbermo
I know the answer. The federal govt would responsible. Since we don't know if China did this or not, the federal govt should be deploying everything to assist all states.
Sometimes those Fox talking points poke holes in their other talking points.nicker:
04-23-2020, 03:04 AM
Cardfan1 Wrote:Sorry, I'm not that fella.
Fox only pretends to believe what they say on television to make money, and Hannity is their cash cow. So far on the Coronavirus crisis they have been wrong at every corner from Hoax, "the flu", Trump's miracle drug, Blaming Governor's, liberate states movement, and numerous other attempts to distract viewers from the lackluster effort by the administration. Today it's "look at these democrats who were wrong."
Talking about the sidestep hook and ladder...:blabbermo
I know the answer. The federal govt would responsible. Since we don't know if China did this or not, the federal govt should be deploying everything to assist all states.
Sometimes those Fox talking points poke holes in their other talking points.nicker:
No what I said was relative to your hocker on a doorknob strategy-- slidestep. I don't know how intelligent you are, it may surprise you to know that the vast majority of people are not quite the rope-a-dope fodder you take them for. I do however know a lot of things get by you. In any event there are many things I can figure out without firsthand knowledge, your lack of common sense for example. And unless the others posting on here are secret Carfan fans, about the only agreement you got right now comes from the Gitback Coach. Cause Van Hagar is waay too reasonable to join the Sith. But considering my comment, it's funny that he (Gitback) just popped up and hooked his trolley to your tail feathers the very next post.
So let me get this straight. The guy who advises folks to get their news from MSNBC, CNN, CBS and NBC-- ONLY; further advises not to in any way heed the foregoing's only competition with a different point of view, that being FOX NEWS. :pondering:
Tell you what, you go ahead and steer your own course using your oracle, the DNC. And I will stick to the reality which I know I watched go down, and I will use that reality, along with recorded history and my own good memory to judge all things factual for myself. Meanwhile I'm gonna go out on a limb here, and say if you, a loved one, a parent--- you get the idea; Were to contract CV and require hospitalization and looked to be near to going on a ventilator, I guarantee you'd be screaming your head off for Hydroxychloroquine. AFTR I sincerely hope that nothing near to that comes to pass for you. Rejecting the news out of hand coming from other countries which report that doctors there have found HCQ coupled with zinc or azithromycin to be an effective treatment is in my view, stupid.
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04-23-2020, 03:09 PM
TheRealThing Wrote:No what I said was relative to your hocker on a doorknob strategy-- slidestep. I don't know how intelligent you are, it may surprise you to know that the vast majority of people are not quite the rope-a-dope fodder you take them for. I do however know a lot of things get by you. In any event there are many things I can figure out without firsthand knowledge, your lack of common sense for example. And unless the others posting on here are secret Carfan fans, about the only agreement you got right now comes from the Gitback Coach. Cause Van Hagar is waay too reasonable to join the Sith. But considering my comment, it's funny that he (Gitback) just popped up and hooked his trolley to your tail feathers the very next post.
So let me get this straight. The guy who advises folks to get their news from MSNBC, CNN, CBS and NBC-- ONLY; further advises not to in any way heed the foregoing's only competition with a different point of view, that being FOX NEWS. :pondering:
Tell you what, you go ahead and steer your own course using your oracle, the DNC. And I will stick to the reality which I know I watched go down, and I will use that reality, along with recorded history and my own good memory to judge all things factual for myself. Meanwhile I'm gonna go out on a limb here, and say if you, a loved one, a parent--- you get the idea; Were to contract CV and require hospitalization and looked to be near to going on a ventilator, I guarantee you'd be screaming your head off for Hydroxychloroquine. AFTR I sincerely hope that nothing near to that comes to pass for you. Rejecting the news out of hand coming from other countries which report that doctors there have found HCQ coupled with zinc or azithromycin to be an effective treatment is in my view, stupid.
Urban Sombrero, did he hurt you? :Sad04:
I am not him. I am not an alter ego and have never been affiliated with him. I don't know if I've read any of his posts, but I think I might now, because he must give you nightmares. Is it that hard for you to believe that there is more than ONE person who does not believe the the same thing you do?
I have never advised anyone to get their news from any outlet. I advised to stay out of just one hemisphere.
HCQ has now proven to kill more people in real tests. Fox News pushed lies and in turn the President pushed lies. Now people have died and people who actually use the drug for their medical needs will suffer.
You, TRT, are much like the President and within a day after Fox News pushes a new theory, lie, or spin it's on BGR here as the gospel. But it turns out to be just as wrong. I guess that's fine when we are talking about the bitter, polarized world of politics, but this is about a pandemic that has only slowed because of precaution. It will rage again when those precautions stop.
Yesterday, the President had to disavow Georgia's reopening after days of making noise about the liberation of states. Where did he get those ideas: one guess? But someone finally cornered him and got him convinced this was not following White House protocol, and was going to kill people. But it's Trump's fault. He won't turn the channel, or turn the TV off, and he allows liars to goad him in dangerous directions that those news organizations don't believe.
Fox News did everything the rest of the news organization when the CV crisis hit, but were still reporting the "Flu is worse." Yesterday memos from last week came out that Fox News on-air personalities need to stop celebrating protectors lack of social distancing. They don't practice what they preach and we have a large population (including the President) that swallow their
charlatan yarns.
04-23-2020, 03:16 PM
http://nypost.com/2020/04/21/man-dies-fr...ical-ploy/
Wonder how many people were influenced by him.
Wonder how many people were influenced by him.
04-23-2020, 04:23 PM
Doctor Stephen Smith, of the Smith Center for Infectious Diseases and Urban Health. https://www.smithcenternj.org/about-our-doctors/
Smith, who is treating 72 COVID-19 patients, said that he has been treating "everybody with hydroxychloroquine and azithromycin [an antibiotic]. Weâve been doing so for a while.â
He pointed out that not a single COVID-19 patient of his that has been on the hydroxychloroquine and azithromycin regimen for five days or more has had to be intubated.
Doctor Smith, whose been working with HIV positive patients for the past 15 years stated further that we still don't have a vaccine for HIV. So, where we may be confident in the development of a vaccine for CV, there is nothing saying that we would have it by this fall or the next 5 years for that matter. Meanwhile, on Bing this morning they report that NYC hospitals are making the claim that 88% of all those who've gone on ventilators in their network died. The last resort of going on the vent is akin to certain death. But you really believe these professionals are going to shipwreck their professional reputations in order to spread a lie that gives only false hope to the dying? We're not talking about fake inoculations here, this is an actual treatment which has been verified at least to some degree, for those afflicted with the killer CV. You and others would deny the only option of hope that the medical community has uncovered, and which is widely available.
Again, Doctor Jeff Colyer and former Kansas Governor, is echoing the findings of Smith, as is Doctor Oz. Only a mental midget would reject their findings out of hand. You extol the virtues of precaution while thousands may be dying needlessly. Added to the laughable politically motivated precaution concerns is another certain reality, that being the side effects of the drug in question are about as serious as those associated with eating a PB&J. No you go ahead and comment on such matters the way you see them, your batting average just has to improve from zero to something measurable. :biggrin:
The rest of the tripe is just not worth a comment but I would suggest that you need to decide which is more important to you. The CV attack on this land of Chinese origins, or your bent to politicize the national epidemic. Uncharacteristically in your case, there might be something to Chinese clandestine activity. At least you've got Mike Pompeo to cite on that one. Oh, but thank you so much for saying that I am much like President Trump.
Smith, who is treating 72 COVID-19 patients, said that he has been treating "everybody with hydroxychloroquine and azithromycin [an antibiotic]. Weâve been doing so for a while.â
He pointed out that not a single COVID-19 patient of his that has been on the hydroxychloroquine and azithromycin regimen for five days or more has had to be intubated.
Doctor Smith, whose been working with HIV positive patients for the past 15 years stated further that we still don't have a vaccine for HIV. So, where we may be confident in the development of a vaccine for CV, there is nothing saying that we would have it by this fall or the next 5 years for that matter. Meanwhile, on Bing this morning they report that NYC hospitals are making the claim that 88% of all those who've gone on ventilators in their network died. The last resort of going on the vent is akin to certain death. But you really believe these professionals are going to shipwreck their professional reputations in order to spread a lie that gives only false hope to the dying? We're not talking about fake inoculations here, this is an actual treatment which has been verified at least to some degree, for those afflicted with the killer CV. You and others would deny the only option of hope that the medical community has uncovered, and which is widely available.
Again, Doctor Jeff Colyer and former Kansas Governor, is echoing the findings of Smith, as is Doctor Oz. Only a mental midget would reject their findings out of hand. You extol the virtues of precaution while thousands may be dying needlessly. Added to the laughable politically motivated precaution concerns is another certain reality, that being the side effects of the drug in question are about as serious as those associated with eating a PB&J. No you go ahead and comment on such matters the way you see them, your batting average just has to improve from zero to something measurable. :biggrin:
The rest of the tripe is just not worth a comment but I would suggest that you need to decide which is more important to you. The CV attack on this land of Chinese origins, or your bent to politicize the national epidemic. Uncharacteristically in your case, there might be something to Chinese clandestine activity. At least you've got Mike Pompeo to cite on that one. Oh, but thank you so much for saying that I am much like President Trump.
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04-23-2020, 05:35 PM
TheRealThing Wrote:Doctor Stephen Smith, of the Smith Center for Infectious Diseases and Urban Health. https://www.smithcenternj.org/about-our-doctors/
Smith, who is treating 72 COVID-19 patients, said that he has been treating "everybody with hydroxychloroquine and azithromycin [an antibiotic]. Weâve been doing so for a while.â
He pointed out that not a single COVID-19 patient of his that has been on the hydroxychloroquine and azithromycin regimen for five days or more has had to be intubated.
Doctor Smith, whose been working with HIV positive patients for the past 15 years stated further that we still don't have a vaccine for HIV. So, where we may be confident in the development of a vaccine for CV, there is nothing saying that we would have it by this fall or the next 5 years for that matter. Meanwhile, on Bing this morning they report that NYC hospitals are making the claim that 88% of all those who've gone on ventilators in their network died. The last resort of going on the vent is akin to certain death. But you really believe these professionals are going to shipwreck their professional reputations in order to spread a lie that gives only false hope to the dying? We're not talking about fake inoculations here, this is an actual treatment which has been verified at least to some degree, for those afflicted with the killer CV. You and others would deny the only option of hope that the medical community has uncovered, and which is widely available.
Again, Doctor Jeff Colyer and former Kansas Governor, is echoing the findings of Smith, as is Doctor Oz. Only a mental midget would reject their findings out of hand. You extol the virtues of precaution while thousands may be dying needlessly. Added to the laughable politically motivated precaution concerns is another certain reality, that being the side effects of the drug in question are about as serious as those associated with eating a PB&J. No you go ahead and comment on such matters the way you see them, your batting average just has to improve from zero to something measurable. :biggrin:
The rest of the tripe is just not worth a comment but I would suggest that you need to decide which is more important to you. The CV attack on this land of Chinese origins, or your bent to politicize the national epidemic. Uncharacteristically in your case, there might be something to Chinese clandestine activity. At least you've got Mike Pompeo to cite on that one. Oh, but thank you so much for saying that I am much like President Trump.
Dr. Oz backpedaled on HCQ yesterday after the release of the VA test, so take that feather out of your cap. That Smith interview from FOX NEWS :please: is nearly a month old. I have no idea why anyone would push an unproven drug with dangerous side effects before trials. I also don't understand why a network would try to push it. It's dangerous and irresponsible, but they understand that which is why the HCQ conversation will die on Fox News and you will be left with month old articles to support the falsities they have spewed.
:Thumbs: So Trump should be sending money to states since we have an international incident!!
We can find out later if the "WMDs" were there or not, but for now let's send the troops, or dollars in this case.
In this case, it's not a compliment. I wish you both would change the channel. nicker:
04-23-2020, 06:09 PM
Cardfan1 Wrote:Dr. Oz backpedaled on HCQ yesterday after the release of the VA test, so take that feather out of your cap. That Smith interview from FOX NEWS :please: is nearly a month old. I have no idea why anyone would push an unproven drug with dangerous side effects before trials. I also don't understand why a network would try to push it. It's dangerous and irresponsible, but they understand that which is why the HCQ conversation will die on Fox News and you will be left with month old articles to support the falsities they have spewed.
:Thumbs: So Trump should be sending money to states since we have an international incident!!
We can find out later if the "WMDs" were there or not, but for now let's send the troops, or dollars in this case.
In this case, it's not a compliment. I wish you both would change the channel. nicker:
You are nothing if not delusional. Oz didn't backpedal, and the interview with Smith was last night on the Ingram Angle, along with the former governor of Kansas. Now as to said treatment being dangerous and irresponsible-- got a side affect you know of that puts CV patients in peril? Cause I'm sure the medical community would like to know what you evidently know. And you can ask your evil step mommy Hillary about the WMD's. I heard the speech.
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04-23-2020, 06:11 PM
Cardfan1 Wrote:Dr. Oz backpedaled on HCQ yesterday after the release of the VA test, so take that feather out of your cap. That Smith interview from FOX NEWS :please: is nearly a month old. I have no idea why anyone would push an unproven drug with dangerous side effects before trials. I also don't understand why a network would try to push it. It's dangerous and irresponsible, but they understand that which is why the HCQ conversation will die on Fox News and you will be left with month old articles to support the falsities they have spewed.
:Thumbs: So Trump should be sending money to states since we have an international incident!!
We can find out later if the "WMDs" were there or not, but for now let's send the troops, or dollars in this case.
In this case, it's not a compliment. I wish you both would change the channel. nicker:
The VA study has been debunked (destroyed actually). The drug has been around forever and was tested and approved long ago.
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04-23-2020, 07:01 PM
TheRealThing Wrote:You are nothing if not delusional. Oz didn't backpedal, and the interview with Smith was last night on the Ingram Angle, along with the former governor of Kansas. Now as to said treatment being dangerous and irresponsible-- got a side affect you know of that puts CV patients in peril? Cause I'm sure the medical community would like to know what you evidently know. And you can ask your evil step mommy Hillary about the WMD's. I heard the speech.
Might want to check what Oz said again.
Smith was on Ingraham last night. I wouldn't expect any less. She'll be the last to let go of this falsehood.
Hey, I 'm no medical doctor, but reports are saying you sure have something "to lose" taking HCQ with side effects including heart attacks, but let's ignore that because Fox told us it was good for us and then the President parroted it. If he wasn't the leader of our nation it would be laughable that he is Fox's dummy.
Avoiding the question again with assumptions that aren't me.
04-23-2020, 07:16 PM
jetpilot Wrote:The VA study has been debunked (destroyed actually). The drug has been around forever and was tested and approved long ago.
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That drug has been approved for use since 1955 and is safe. To spread fear of a medication thatâs been in use since 1955 is the height of unethical.
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I need the see the study of the VA study released this week being destroyed.
04-23-2020, 08:51 PM
It would take a deranged sicko to hope a drug didn't save lives just because Donald Trump was for it. And we will always remember who the sickos are after this is over.
04-23-2020, 10:13 PM
Cardfan1 Wrote:Might want to check what Oz said again.
Smith was on Ingraham last night. I wouldn't expect any less. She'll be the last to let go of this falsehood.
Hey, I 'm no medical doctor, but reports are saying you sure have something "to lose" taking HCQ with side effects including heart attacks, but let's ignore that because Fox told us it was good for us and then the President parroted it. If he wasn't the leader of our nation it would be laughable that he is Fox's dummy.
Avoiding the question again with assumptions that aren't me.
Well you're not much of a judge of character either. And I'm no Vegas Black Jack Dealer, but I'd bet on odds if they were good enough. Let's see, hanging on one side of the balance is an 88% chance of certain death, while on the other according to the docs and testimonials of those who've been delivered, is taking Hydroxychloroquine. :please:
"Taking Hydroxychloroquine for RA or Lupus Can Reduce Heart Risk by 17% The anti-malarial drug lowers cholesterol and blood sugar and makes blood less sticky, which is good for reducing blood clots and heart attack risk." [Bing]
You're totally engorged with it. So where was that "it causes heart attack" evidence again? You can count on one thing, when I get a stupid question asked of me 9 times out of 10 plus, I'm gonna ignore it.
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04-23-2020, 10:18 PM
jetpilot Wrote:It would take a deranged sicko to hope a drug didn't save lives just because Donald Trump was for it. And we will always remember who the sickos are after this is over.
I guarantee it! And deranged is the exact clinical application here because in no way is the resistance to this particular drug based in fact. It's weird science though. Feelings and social justice and left politics all mixed up make perfect sense to Cardfan and AOC.
I just hope MR Trump comes out in favor of regular respirations because you know all the left will immediately go blue. :hilarious:
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04-24-2020, 05:48 PM
jetpilot Wrote:It would take a deranged sicko to hope a drug didn't save lives just because Donald Trump was for it. And we will always remember who the sickos are after this is over.
TheRealThing Wrote:I guarantee it! And deranged is the exact clinical application here because in no way is the resistance to this particular drug based in fact. It's weird science though. Feelings and social justice and left politics all mixed up make perfect sense to Cardfan and AOC.
I just hope MR Trump comes out in favor of regular respirations because you know all the left will immediately go blue. :hilarious:
Nope, I wish HCQ worked, but it hasn't. It's dangerous that he is flouting it because he has people hang on his every word. hh:
The sicko is the dude standing at the podium blathering things he has NO clue about besides what FOX NEWS talking heads tell him.
Of course, HCQ is worlds better than the doozy tossed to Americans yesterday... unbelievable...absolutely unbelievable.
Disinfectant? Seriously? :wtf1:
Stable Genius.
I am on pins and needles waiting to hear you guys spin this one.
04-24-2020, 06:51 PM
Cardfan1 Wrote:Nope, I wish HCQ worked, but it hasn't. It's dangerous that he is flouting it because he has people hang on his every word. hh:
The sicko is the dude standing at the podium blathering things he has NO clue about besides what FOX NEWS talking heads tell him.
Of course, HCQ is worlds better than the doozy tossed to Americans yesterday... unbelievable...absolutely unbelievable.
Disinfectant? Seriously? :wtf1:
Stable Genius.
I am on pins and needles waiting to hear you guys spin this one.
2 lies in your first sentence and I quit reading. You add nothing to intelligent debate here. Orange Man Bad.
04-24-2020, 06:52 PM
From Jesse Kelly:
For those who’ve convinced themselves our wrecked economy is some Leftist plot, here you go. It’s not. Much as it sucks, Trump has been 100% behind these lockdowns. That’s simply a fact. For better or worse, he owns a lot of where we are.
You can get mad at me all you want. I voted for him. I’ll happily vote for him again. But you absolutely cannot absolve him of responsibility for this economic disaster. Maybe he does know more. Maybe he’s been right all along.
But 30 million unemployed, he owns it.
People are scared to get yelled at. I’m not. They also think their silence is helpful. If you’re a Trump supporter, and I am, now is the time he NEEDS to hear your disagreement.
You’re not a better supporter if you just agree with everything. You’re a chump.
He’s not “getting it from all sides”. The ONLY people wanting to open are the unemployed and about 10 pundits on the Right. Virtually everyone else is telling him to keep it locked.
I’ve been out of work. I care about 30 million people who can’t pay bills enough to speak up.
Trump voters were the “silent majority” last time because we live in a shame society and many didn’t want to admit they’re voting for him.
I’m telling you all right now, the new “silent majority” is people FURIOUS about these lockdowns. You should see my emails.
The very thought of this makes me throw up in my mouth. I want four more years of what Trump has done. But 50,000 votes are the reason you don’t have President Hillary. If you think 30 million unemployed people doesn’t risk those 50k flipping sides, you’re a moron.
For those who’ve convinced themselves our wrecked economy is some Leftist plot, here you go. It’s not. Much as it sucks, Trump has been 100% behind these lockdowns. That’s simply a fact. For better or worse, he owns a lot of where we are.
You can get mad at me all you want. I voted for him. I’ll happily vote for him again. But you absolutely cannot absolve him of responsibility for this economic disaster. Maybe he does know more. Maybe he’s been right all along.
But 30 million unemployed, he owns it.
People are scared to get yelled at. I’m not. They also think their silence is helpful. If you’re a Trump supporter, and I am, now is the time he NEEDS to hear your disagreement.
You’re not a better supporter if you just agree with everything. You’re a chump.
He’s not “getting it from all sides”. The ONLY people wanting to open are the unemployed and about 10 pundits on the Right. Virtually everyone else is telling him to keep it locked.
I’ve been out of work. I care about 30 million people who can’t pay bills enough to speak up.
Trump voters were the “silent majority” last time because we live in a shame society and many didn’t want to admit they’re voting for him.
I’m telling you all right now, the new “silent majority” is people FURIOUS about these lockdowns. You should see my emails.
The very thought of this makes me throw up in my mouth. I want four more years of what Trump has done. But 50,000 votes are the reason you don’t have President Hillary. If you think 30 million unemployed people doesn’t risk those 50k flipping sides, you’re a moron.
04-24-2020, 07:17 PM
Cardfan1 Wrote:Nope, I wish HCQ worked, but it hasn't. It's dangerous that he is flouting it because he has people hang on his every word. hh:
The sicko is the dude standing at the podium blathering things he has NO clue about besides what FOX NEWS talking heads tell him.
Of course, HCQ is worlds better than the doozy tossed to Americans yesterday... unbelievable...absolutely unbelievable.
Disinfectant? Seriously? :wtf1:
Stable Genius.
I am on pins and needles waiting to hear you guys spin this one.
Frankly I've only caught a snippet of the issue du jour but I will at some point, and see what all the brouhaha's about this time. I can tell you this, whether you're waiting on pins and needles or not. Your own record of false statements and assertions, and just being plain wrong on here hardly distinguishes you in the BGR annals of honor. It is beyond absurd to think that first, the "resistance" would prosecute a 4 year long campaign of character assassination composed of demonstrative lies against the President. And then expect that the lucid folks they've been trying unsuccessfully to dupe, would bite anyway and allow themselves to be roped into defending that President knowing the same "resistance" wouldn't accept the word of the Lord Himself to that end.
Yours is a war against this culture and traditional moral values on which this nation was formed, all of which the left is trying it's damnedest to redefine. So I know you and the rest of the left are just not ever going to stop accusing and blaming. I got that. And frankly I believe you guys will eventually win, temporarily. And I and others like me will have gone down fighting. That's okay too because prophetically it has to happen. That doesn't mean victory, it just means you guys will never quit. Keep pitiching :Thumbs:
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04-24-2020, 07:41 PM
jetpilot Wrote:2 lies in your first sentence and I quit reading. You add nothing to intelligent debate here. Orange Man Bad.
Thatâs laughable coming from you. You get your news and views from Catturd. :lmao:
FDA just issued warnings on HCQ.
04-24-2020, 07:51 PM
TheRealThing Wrote:Frankly I've only caught a snippet of the issue du jour but I will at some point, and see what all the brouhaha's about this time. I can tell you this, whether you're waiting on pins and needles or not. Your own record of false statements and assertions, and just being plain wrong on here hardly distinguishes you in the BGR annals of honor. It is beyond absurd to think that first, the "resistance" would prosecute a 4 year long campaign of character assassination composed of demonstrative lies against the President. And then expect that the lucid folks they've been trying unsuccessfully to dupe, would bite anyway and allow themselves to be roped into defending that President knowing the same "resistance" wouldn't accept the word of the Lord Himself to that end.
Yours is a war against this culture and traditional moral values on which this nation was formed, all of which the left is trying it's damnedest to redefine. So I know you and the rest of the left are just not ever going to stop accusing and blaming. I got that. And frankly I believe you guys will eventually win, temporarily. And I and others like me will have gone down fighting. That's okay too because prophetically it has to happen. That doesn't mean victory, it just means you guys will never quit. Keep pitiching :Thumbs:
Now Iâm disappointed.
04-24-2020, 09:53 PM
Cardfan1 Wrote:Thatâs laughable coming from you. You get your news and views from Catturd. :lmao:
FDA just issued warnings on HCQ.
Nice try Maddow boy. I read more each week from both sides of the aisle than you read all year. Tell all the people HCQ helped, including the Dem lawmaker who said it saved her life, that it doesn't help. Trying digging a little deeper than Dem paid for fake news to learn what that debunked study "determined"
04-24-2020, 10:37 PM
try*
04-25-2020, 12:44 AM
jetpilot Wrote:Nice try Maddow boy. I read more each week from both sides of the aisle than you read all year. Tell all the people HCQ helped, including the Dem lawmaker who said it saved her life, that it doesn't help. Trying digging a little deeper than Dem paid for fake news to learn what that debunked study "determined"
Donât watch Maddow, and Iâve never quoted her.
You can stop fighting for HCQ now. Trump has moved on to Lysol injections and tanning booths.
04-25-2020, 03:25 AM
ARTICLE EXCERPT---
"A Detroit, Mich., branch of the Democratic Party plans to censure state representative Karen Whitsett (D., Detroit) after she met with President Trump earlier this month and praised him for recommending the anti-viral drug hydroxychloroquine as a treatment for coronavirus.
Whitsett contracted coronavirus in March and has since recovered. The freshman lawmaker credited hydroxychloroquine, a medication touted by Trump and other U.S. officials as a possible therapeutic for coronavirus, with saving her life."
https://news.yahoo.com/detroit-dems-cens...21521.html
Karen and the doctor whom treated her CV infection with Hydroxychloroquine appeared on TV just this evening. The Democrats are livid that she would do something like publically thanking the President for touting the possible effectiveness of the drug. The doctor by-the-way made it crystal clear that he credited HCQ with saving Karen's life as well as other patients he's treated.
Karen meanwhile will be expelled from the party for the unthinkable trespass of being civil and thanking the President. Enough said? Of course but the lies will continue like I said, up until and past the election this fall, so get used to it.
The Dems have lied about HCQ, the liberal media have lied about HCQ. And if not totally following suit, Cardfan has at the minimum come very near to lying about HCQ on here. He's certainly stuck up for the Dems and the media who have. The whole affair is indefensible and treasonous IMHO so what's the point of continuing the argument? Simple, like I said go down fighting or let lies rule.
"A Detroit, Mich., branch of the Democratic Party plans to censure state representative Karen Whitsett (D., Detroit) after she met with President Trump earlier this month and praised him for recommending the anti-viral drug hydroxychloroquine as a treatment for coronavirus.
Whitsett contracted coronavirus in March and has since recovered. The freshman lawmaker credited hydroxychloroquine, a medication touted by Trump and other U.S. officials as a possible therapeutic for coronavirus, with saving her life."
https://news.yahoo.com/detroit-dems-cens...21521.html
Karen and the doctor whom treated her CV infection with Hydroxychloroquine appeared on TV just this evening. The Democrats are livid that she would do something like publically thanking the President for touting the possible effectiveness of the drug. The doctor by-the-way made it crystal clear that he credited HCQ with saving Karen's life as well as other patients he's treated.
Karen meanwhile will be expelled from the party for the unthinkable trespass of being civil and thanking the President. Enough said? Of course but the lies will continue like I said, up until and past the election this fall, so get used to it.
The Dems have lied about HCQ, the liberal media have lied about HCQ. And if not totally following suit, Cardfan has at the minimum come very near to lying about HCQ on here. He's certainly stuck up for the Dems and the media who have. The whole affair is indefensible and treasonous IMHO so what's the point of continuing the argument? Simple, like I said go down fighting or let lies rule.
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04-25-2020, 03:33 AM
In the VA study. They waited too long, (within a matter of a few days or even hours of death) to give said dying patients, with underlying conditions BTW, the drug. What the critics did not say was that HCQ showed dramatic promise if given early, especially to middle aged and younger patients.
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04-25-2020, 07:47 PM
TheRealThing Wrote:In the VA study. They waited too long, (within a matter of a few days or even hours of death) to give said dying patients, with underlying conditions BTW, the drug. What the critics did not say was that HCQ showed dramatic promise if given early, especially to middle aged and younger patients.
Some people don't want to hear that. The same people who hang on every sentence Joe Biden finally spits out after forgetting where he is 10 times.
04-25-2020, 07:49 PM
Cardfan1 Wrote:Donât watch Maddow, and Iâve never quoted her.
You can stop fighting for HCQ now. Trump has moved on to Lysol injections and tanning booths.
Whoever you are getting your fake news talking points from is an idiot.
04-25-2020, 08:07 PM
Here's another one for you CF1!
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I'm a southern man ...
I'm always going to do a firm handshake in business.
- and I'm always going to hug my friends and family.
Unelected doctors don't tell me how to live my life - and they never will.
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