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04-04-2020, 04:26 AM
Catturd ™
@catturd2
·
Apr 1
And this is just at my house.
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No Spin News
@NoSpinNews
· Apr 1
Alcohol sales spike 55% in one week. Online alcohol sales up a whopping 243%.
Americans are turning to the bottle, as well as prayer, to cope with the contagion.
http://bor.com/n/mctjct
@catturd2
·
Apr 1
And this is just at my house.
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No Spin News
@NoSpinNews
· Apr 1
Alcohol sales spike 55% in one week. Online alcohol sales up a whopping 243%.
Americans are turning to the bottle, as well as prayer, to cope with the contagion.
http://bor.com/n/mctjct
04-04-2020, 09:33 AM
Sorry, JP, but I have reached the conclusion that the coronavirus threat has not been overstated by the federal government. It has started hitting way too close to home for me. Yesterday afternoon, my wife witnessed what she believes was an ambulance and a team of EMTs transport a coronavirus victim from an apartment building across from the parking lot of our home. Based on the protective gear worn by the team and the fact that they yelled at onlookers from nearby balconies to get inside, there is not much doubt that my wife is right about the nature of the emergency. The ambulance arrived with no lights flashing or sirens blaring but they were turned on soon after the ambulance rolled away.
At least two employees who worked on the floor above me are being treated for the disease. On Thursday, I believe that I was only one of two people who were working on the same floor as I was on and I only saw one other person in the four story building, aside from the cleaning crew. Traffic at the main gate was extremely light and the parking garage where I park was almost empty.
The reason that I believe that, if anything, the administration is understating the danger of the coronavirus is that I cannot see any other reason that Trump would have taken the steps that he has with an election only a few months away. The president obviously has access to intelligence that the general public does not, and the actions that our military has taken to protect our troops from this pandemic have been unprecedented. I just cannot see the political upside for Trump to overstate the threat of the virus when things were going so well economically.
I expect things to get much, much worse in this area before they improve. Up to this point, I have worked in the office on most days while most of my coworkers have telecommuted but going forward, I plan to limit my trips to the office as much as I can. I will also probably begin wearing a mask in public.
Barber shops have been closed in Virginia for a couple of weeks and I was way past due a haircut when they closed. So, I ordered a pair of barber clippers and some accessories for it. The guides for the clippers arrived yesterday. When I checked the Walmart website yesterday, every item that I had ordered last week and received was out of stock.
I placed an Instacart order for groceries last night and the order kept getting delayed until the estimated delivery time was nearly midnight before I canceled my order. Delivery services for groceries and everything else are having trouble keeping up with demand as people are increasingly staying indoors. Traffic in the DC area is very light compared to what it was only a couple of weeks ago.
As more and more people see or hear about people whom they know dying from the virus, things here will get much worse. Our doctor appointments now consist of online video meetings with doctors trying to protect themselves and their staffs from contracting coronavirus.
I am no Trump fan and I cringe when I hear people refer to him as a conservative - but I do not believe him to be a stupid man. He would not have taken the actions that he did unless he was convinced that we are facing a very serious threat from the coronavirus epidemic. In fact, I suspect that Trump has probably understated the threat to avoid even more panic among the general public. I also suspect that this virus most likely escaped from a bioweapons lab near Wuhan, China, where the Chinese communist government has been working to isolate bat viruses. The location of the lab and the events of the past few months just seem like too big of a coincidence to me for the two things not to be related to one another.
I encourage everybody to read the following article, which was written by Bill Gertz of the Washington Times. Gertz is an excellent investigative reporter, which is a rarity these days, who has specialized for years in breaking stories in the intelligence and national security fields.
At least two employees who worked on the floor above me are being treated for the disease. On Thursday, I believe that I was only one of two people who were working on the same floor as I was on and I only saw one other person in the four story building, aside from the cleaning crew. Traffic at the main gate was extremely light and the parking garage where I park was almost empty.
The reason that I believe that, if anything, the administration is understating the danger of the coronavirus is that I cannot see any other reason that Trump would have taken the steps that he has with an election only a few months away. The president obviously has access to intelligence that the general public does not, and the actions that our military has taken to protect our troops from this pandemic have been unprecedented. I just cannot see the political upside for Trump to overstate the threat of the virus when things were going so well economically.
I expect things to get much, much worse in this area before they improve. Up to this point, I have worked in the office on most days while most of my coworkers have telecommuted but going forward, I plan to limit my trips to the office as much as I can. I will also probably begin wearing a mask in public.
Barber shops have been closed in Virginia for a couple of weeks and I was way past due a haircut when they closed. So, I ordered a pair of barber clippers and some accessories for it. The guides for the clippers arrived yesterday. When I checked the Walmart website yesterday, every item that I had ordered last week and received was out of stock.
I placed an Instacart order for groceries last night and the order kept getting delayed until the estimated delivery time was nearly midnight before I canceled my order. Delivery services for groceries and everything else are having trouble keeping up with demand as people are increasingly staying indoors. Traffic in the DC area is very light compared to what it was only a couple of weeks ago.
As more and more people see or hear about people whom they know dying from the virus, things here will get much worse. Our doctor appointments now consist of online video meetings with doctors trying to protect themselves and their staffs from contracting coronavirus.
I am no Trump fan and I cringe when I hear people refer to him as a conservative - but I do not believe him to be a stupid man. He would not have taken the actions that he did unless he was convinced that we are facing a very serious threat from the coronavirus epidemic. In fact, I suspect that Trump has probably understated the threat to avoid even more panic among the general public. I also suspect that this virus most likely escaped from a bioweapons lab near Wuhan, China, where the Chinese communist government has been working to isolate bat viruses. The location of the lab and the events of the past few months just seem like too big of a coincidence to me for the two things not to be related to one another.
I encourage everybody to read the following article, which was written by Bill Gertz of the Washington Times. Gertz is an excellent investigative reporter, which is a rarity these days, who has specialized for years in breaking stories in the intelligence and national security fields.
Quote:Chinese researchers isolated deadly bat coronaviruses near Wuhan animal market
Chinese government researchers isolated more than 2,000 new viruses, including deadly bat coronaviruses, and carried out scientific work on them just three miles from a wild animal market identified as the epicenter of the COVID-19 pandemic.
Several Chinese state media outlets in recent months touted the virus research and lionized in particular a key researcher in Wuhan, Tian Junhua, as a leader in bat virus work.
The coronavirus strain now infecting hundreds of thousands of people globally mutated from bats believed to have infected animals and people at a wild animal market in Wuhan. The exact origin of the virus, however, remains a mystery.
04-04-2020, 01:37 PM
I hadn't seen this article before, but I have read a few that were similar.
So, what is your opinion on how this was released? Accidental or intentional?
So, what is your opinion on how this was released? Accidental or intentional?
04-04-2020, 01:44 PM
Trump is letting the medical "experts" call the shots so he can't be blamed for not being cautious enough. 540 active cases in DC and 15 deaths so far out of millions of people. Be very cautious and stay calm Hoot.
https://www.bing.com/covid/local/distric...itedstates
https://www.bing.com/covid/local/distric...itedstates
04-04-2020, 03:57 PM
jetpilot Wrote:Trump is letting the medical "experts" call the shots so he can't be blamed for not being cautious enough. 540 active cases in DC and 15 deaths so far out of millions of people. Be very cautious and stay calm Hoot.I am calm, JP, but I have a degree of situational awareness to which some seem oblivious. I am not blaming Trump for his handling of the situation in any way. The number of identified active cases and number of deaths from COVID-19 is irrelevant because we have no idea how many people have actually been infected nor do we know where we, as a nation, are on the graphs of the spread of the virus.
https://www.bing.com/covid/local/distric...itedstates
As for Trump's handling of the situation, I would expect that a competent, responsible president would not necessarily be 100 percent truthful to the public because panic could add to the death toll. In every crisis, there will be people who panic and/or hoard supplies.
My problem with some of your posts has been your characterization of folks taking what have proven to be prudent precautions as cowering under tables.
If I believed as you seem to believe that the federal and state governments have created panic by over reacting to the pandemic, then I would not have hesitated to have blamed Trump and every other politician who has taken steps to almost bring our economy to a halt.
Even if in the final analysis it becomes clear that the federal government did err on the side of caution, you will not see me blaming them for their reaction. I have been critical of many things that FDR did during his four terms in office, but I have always cut him some slack for the mistakes that he made in handling the economy during the Great Depression. When faced with an unprecedented crisis, people will make mistakes and we can only hope that they learn from those mistakes and better handle similar crises in the future. I believe that this is such an unprecedented crisis. We may never be certain that this was not the first instance of the deployment of a bioweapon.
04-04-2020, 04:10 PM
Granny Bear Wrote:I hadn't seen this article before, but I have read a few that were similar.I doubt that we will ever know for sure, Granny. At the very least, this country should demand that China close its "wet markets" and take steps to remove such "delicacies" as wild bats from the dinner tables of its citizens. If the release of the coronavirus was intentional, then we may be in the early stages of WW III.
So, what is your opinion on how this was released? Accidental or intentional?
What would stop China from releasing a more potent virus directly into another country - a virus against which it had already vaccinated its own population?
Even if this pandemic was an act of God, it has shown our enemies, including China, how this country would likely react to a biological attack.
04-04-2020, 05:26 PM
Hoot Gibson Wrote:I am calm, JP, but I have a degree of situational awareness to which some seem oblivious. I am not blaming Trump for his handling of the situation in any way. The number of identified active cases and number of deaths from COVID-19 is irrelevant because we have no idea how many people have actually been infected nor do we know where we, as a nation, are on the graphs of the spread of the virus.
As for Trump's handling of the situation, I would expect that a competent, responsible president would not necessarily be 100 percent truthful to the public because panic could add to the death toll. In every crisis, there will be people who panic and/or hoard supplies.
My problem with some of your posts has been your characterization of folks taking what have proven to be prudent precautions as cowering under tables.
If I believed as you seem to believe that the federal and state governments have created panic by over reacting to the pandemic, then I would not have hesitated to have blamed Trump and every other politician who has taken steps to almost bring our economy to a halt.
Even if in the final analysis it becomes clear that the federal government did err on the side of caution, you will not see me blaming them for their reaction. I have been critical of many things that FDR did during his four terms in office, but I have always cut him some slack for the mistakes that he made in handling the economy during the Great Depression. When faced with an unprecedented crisis, people will make mistakes and we can only hope that they learn from those mistakes and better handle similar crises in the future. I believe that this is such an unprecedented crisis. We may never be certain that this was not the first instance of the deployment of a bioweapon.
Haha Hoot aren't you the smart one. I stopped reading right there. When I go in the Pikeville Walmart at 6 am when they open (only time I will go) everyone in there is wearing a mask and gloves. So I guess we don't need anyone to tell us to be cautious and/or how scared we should be.
04-04-2020, 05:58 PM
jetpilot Wrote:Haha Hoot aren't you the smart one. I stopped reading right there. When I go in the Pikeville Walmart at 6 am when they open (only time I will go) everyone in there is wearing a mask and gloves. So I guess we don't need anyone to tell us to be cautious and/or how scared we should be.:Thumbs: I am glad to hear that you have awakened to the dangers that this disease presents to this country, JP. Better late than never.
04-04-2020, 07:26 PM
Catturd â¢
@catturd2
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21h
Iâve noticed that every single doctor, expert, bureaucrat, politician and media personality pushing for everyone to lose their jobs and stay at home, indefinitely ... all still have their jobs.
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@catturd2
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21h
Iâve noticed that every single doctor, expert, bureaucrat, politician and media personality pushing for everyone to lose their jobs and stay at home, indefinitely ... all still have their jobs.
Every Clapping hands signsingle Clapping hands signone Clapping hands sign
04-05-2020, 01:09 AM
Alex Berenson
@AlexBerenson
· 9h
And hereâs updated Florida data (remember, Florida just went on a relatively loose lockdown, no way it could be having an impact yet): 2000 FEWER patients and 200 FEWER ICU patients than yesterday. You read that right. Florida hospitals are emptier today.
@AlexBerenson
· 9h
And hereâs updated Florida data (remember, Florida just went on a relatively loose lockdown, no way it could be having an impact yet): 2000 FEWER patients and 200 FEWER ICU patients than yesterday. You read that right. Florida hospitals are emptier today.
04-05-2020, 01:10 AM
Alex Berenson
@AlexBerenson
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6h
Btw - if you haven’t realized - one reason the public health establishment is so desperate to force every state into lockdown is to avoid the possibility of having a control group; if no free states exist, we can’t test their outcomes against those that quarantined.
@AlexBerenson
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6h
Btw - if you haven’t realized - one reason the public health establishment is so desperate to force every state into lockdown is to avoid the possibility of having a control group; if no free states exist, we can’t test their outcomes against those that quarantined.
04-05-2020, 01:12 AM
Alex Berenson
@AlexBerenson
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7h
The
@IHME_UW
model vs. reality for New York State, April 4: more of the same, 65,400 beds projected, 15,905 actually used (new hospitalizations fell notably day-over-day); 12,000 ICU beds projected, 4,100 used. Still basically fiction, but at least it’s not getting MORE wrong.
@AlexBerenson
·
7h
The
@IHME_UW
model vs. reality for New York State, April 4: more of the same, 65,400 beds projected, 15,905 actually used (new hospitalizations fell notably day-over-day); 12,000 ICU beds projected, 4,100 used. Still basically fiction, but at least it’s not getting MORE wrong.
04-05-2020, 01:13 AM
Pat Ward
@WardDPatrick
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2h
President Trump was just asked about this, said he is “Thinking about it”
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Dana Perino
@DanaPerino
· Apr 3
I think we need a 2nd task force assembled at direction of POTUS to look ahead to reopening of the economy. Made up of a nonpartisan/bipartisan mix of experts across industry sectors, so that we have their recommendations & plan - let 1st taskforce focus on crisis at the moment.
@WardDPatrick
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2h
President Trump was just asked about this, said he is “Thinking about it”
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Dana Perino
@DanaPerino
· Apr 3
I think we need a 2nd task force assembled at direction of POTUS to look ahead to reopening of the economy. Made up of a nonpartisan/bipartisan mix of experts across industry sectors, so that we have their recommendations & plan - let 1st taskforce focus on crisis at the moment.
04-05-2020, 01:15 AM
Alec MacGillis
@AlecMacGillis
· Apr 3
Talk of a "national pandemic" is obscuring how wildly disparate the toll is.
NYC is over 1,500 deaths. Detroit is near 200, NOLA at 125.
Meanwhile, Philly has 13, DC has 15, Denver has 11. All these and many more are below 10: SF, Balt, Pittsburgh, Charlotte, Austin, Cincy...
04-05-2020, 02:01 AM
04-05-2020, 04:33 AM
Catturd ™
@catturd2
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5h
Reminder ...
The swine flu in 2009 under Obama ... 65 million cases in the USA, almost 300,000 hospitalizations, over 12,000 deaths.
No panic
No businesses shut down
No social distancing
Media basically ignored it.
That’s all you need to know.
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