[64SUR]

Ranking my top offensive teams in state championship game. Only game I didn’t watched was the trinity vs male game so I couldn’t rank neither team. irateSho

1. 2A Somerset
2. 1A Pikeville
3. 3A Belfry
4. 4A Johnson Central
5. 5A Covington Catholic

:Cheerlead. :Cheerlead. :Cheerlead

[BJN0502]

So had Mayfield won your telling me that they wouldn't be higher? Please, all week up until the game it was "Mayfield played tougher', "Somerset hasn't seen a team like Mayfield". The truth is in most of these games Somerset shot themselves in the foot and could have done more. Not taking away from Mayfield or LCA, but look at all the mistakes they make and the games are completely different. Here comes the "same could be said for them"...well maybe in the way of LCA, but in the Mayfield game had Somerset not botched a kickoff or fumbled the ball, that score is a 2 touchdown game at worst. Now let's here how arrogant and cocky I am being a Somerset fan and how I know nothing about football. Case and point, this is all speculation and speculation doesn't play games. I stick by my earlier statement, Somerset gives Belfry and Pikeville all they want and could possibly win both. We are sure as 💩 not that far behind.

[Otis Campbell]

This without a doubt and Pikeville would give JC all they wanted although Belfry got embarrassed..

Pikeville would give Johnson Central all they wanted? LOL You can’t be serious.

[#55PirateFan]

Looks good to me. Although I would give the nod to CovCath over Johnson Central because of their tougher schedule, I have no doubt that both JC and Boyle County could beat the Colonels on a given night. They seemed to play up or down to the competition. But their closer than expected wins over LexCath and Highlands were early in the season and solid wins over LaSalle and Frederick Douglas are hard to ignore.

I rank Belfry over Pikeville for the same reason. Pikeville was the better team in September but Belfry finished the season healthy with three straight wins over opponents who were better than any team on Pikeville's schedule besides Belfry. Pikeville showed that they were good enough to beat Belfry on a given night by doing it but Belfry was the state champion of a much tougher class.

Finally, someone who see's it exactly the way it is. I agree with everything you said.

[ekywildcat]

Johnson Central would have easily beaten the Panthers, which is what should happen when an elite 4A team plays an elite 1A team and Pikeville, Belfry, and Johnson Central are all very well coached. It's nothing to be embarrassed about when a smaller school loses to a larger school, but football becomes a numbers game when all else is equal between two well coached teams. Coach Matney was hired to end the embarrassment of losing to Paintsville way too often and end it he did. When first half running clocks became the rule, Johnson Central's series with Paintsville came to an end.

IMO, as long as Matney is at Johnson Central, the Golden Eagles will win more games against Belfry than they will lose, although JC's enrollment advantage over Belfry is close enough that the Pirates will continue to win their share of games in the series. JC would dominate a series against any 1A school, although one bad hiring decision after Matney retires could change everything, just as it did following Bill Musick's departure.

This is the golden age of mountain football and I hope that Pikeville, Belfry, and Johnson Central all bring back titles next season.

I wish I could like this twice.

[KYHSFBFan]

IMO, which means very little, is that Mayfield and Somerset were pretty evenly matched. The score agrees with this. Yes, if the Jumpers wouldn’t have botched the kickoff, it could have been different. If Mayfield doesn’t fumble inside the 5 and miss a short fg, it could have been different, too. Stats don’t reflect a dominating performance either way.

[BJN0502]

IMO, which means very little, is that Mayfield and Somerset were pretty evenly matched. The score agrees with this. Yes, if the Jumpers wouldn’t have botched the kickoff, it could have been different. If Mayfield doesn’t fumble inside the 5 and miss a short fg, it could have been different, too. Stats don’t reflect a dominating performance either way.

That's not the point. The point is had Mayfield won, no one would have any doubt whether they could play with some of these other teams. However, Somerset won and now we are the "just glad to be here" team. As for the fumble, Mayfield recovered and was given a first down on the goal line and still couldn't punch it in. I've got to learn to just shut up. Debating with people who have no respect for your program is pointless.

[cardsfan9051]

Yes the 2a state champ* and their refs could easily beat belfry and pikeville. Their refs just keep giving them chances until they do win.

[Walt Longmire]

Yes the 2a state champ* and their refs could easily beat belfry and pikeville. Their refs just keep giving them chances until they do win.

I didn't see the refs fail to pick up a 4th and one with under a minute to go. I didn't see the refs give up a 38 yard pass to a defensive back to get Somerset in position to throw it to the end zone. They did, correctly, call pass interference when Somerset did throw it in the end zone. Then I didn't see the refs fail to cover a Somerset receiver on the final play. You can yap all you want. Mayfield had plenty of chances to win the game, they didn't. Fans like you are what give Mayfield fans such a bad name across the state. Enjoy your 12th Runner-Up trophy. We'll enjoy our first gold one, our players and coaches earned it.

[BJN0502]

This is a message board where we are able to discuss/debate any football related item at hand, even if its redundant and beat too death. I understand all of that. However, I truly wish we could just put the pi/no pi to rest. It won't be, but still...that's my one Christmas wish...leave the dead to lie.

[Real Badman]

Who ever doesn't think it was a PI has something wrong with their brains and needs medically evaluated or should start watching badminton

[cuppett777]

This without a doubt and Pikeville would give JC all they wanted although Belfry got embarrassed..

what planet you on, no way Pikeville Would Give Jc all they wanted,lol

[cardsfan9051]

I love all you guys. You are so easy to get a rise out of. Yes I'm a poop stirrer but it's me. Maybe I'm related pj doug... lol. Congrats and enjoy it. Till next year.

[jetpilot]

Johnson Central would have easily beaten the Panthers, which is what should happen when an elite 4A team plays an elite 1A team and Pikeville, Belfry, and Johnson Central are all very well coached. It's nothing to be embarrassed about when a smaller school loses to a larger school, but football becomes a numbers game when all else is equal between two well coached teams. Coach Matney was hired to end the embarrassment of losing to Paintsville way too often and end it he did. When first half running clocks became the rule, Johnson Central's series with Paintsville came to an end.

IMO, as long as Matney is at Johnson Central, the Golden Eagles will win more games against Belfry than they will lose, although JC's enrollment advantage over Belfry is close enough that the Pirates will continue to win their share of games in the series. JC would dominate a series against any 1A school, although one bad hiring decision after Matney retires could change everything, just as it did following Bill Musick's departure.

This is the golden age of mountain football and I hope that Pikeville, Belfry, and Johnson Central all bring back titles next season.

Lot of misconceptions in your post but the biggest is the "numbers game."
Pikeville and Johnson Central had exactly the same number of players on their rosters. So if you want to change your argument to JC just had better players go ahead and take a do over.
You know I love you Hoot...except that one time you were for Hillary.:biggrin:

[jetpilot]

what planet you on, no way Pikeville Would Give Jc all they wanted,lol

I'm on Planet 14-0.

[PHSForever]

My undisputed state champ rankings. Don’t try to argue because if you argue different, you’re wrong.

1A) Champs
2A) Champs
3A) Champs
4A) Champs
5A) Champs
6A) Champs

That’s it. They’re the champs regardless of their class. No point belaboring or belittling any of them. All champions and all deserving. Any team can beat any team on any given night (or day). But on these days, the best teams won. Period.

[Hoot Gibson]

Lot of misconceptions in your post but the biggest is the "numbers game."
Pikeville and Johnson Central had exactly the same number of players on their rosters. So if you want to change your argument to JC just had better players go ahead and take a do over.
You know I love you Hoot...except that one time you were for Hillary.:biggrin:

I wasn't referring to the number of players on the bench. I was referring to the size of the talent pool that a large school has compared to a small school. Jenkins could dress every male in school and still have difficulty competing against larger schools.

[jetpilot]

I wasn't referring to the number of players on the bench. I was referring to the size of the talent pool that a large school has compared to a small school. Jenkins could dress every male in school and still have difficulty competing against larger schools.

Using Jenkins and Paintsville in your argument makes it even weaker than it already was. Don't care about them. Pikeville is a completely different animal. Pikeville ranked first in 2A, first in 3A, third in 4A, third in 5A and third in 6A in this final 2019 poll. They have been beating bigger schools for decades and will continue to do so. I'm done. I do agree with you that JC would beat Paintsville and Jenkins most years though.irateSho

http://calpreps.com/2019/ratings/Kentucky_all.htm

[Hoot Gibson]

Using Jenkins and Paintsville in your argument makes it even weaker than it already was. Don't care about them. Pikeville is a completely different animal. Pikeville ranked first in 2A, first in 3A, third in 4A, third in 5A and third in 6A in this final 2019 poll. They have been beating bigger schools for decades and will continue to do so. I'm done. I do agree with you that JC would beat Paintsville and Jenkins most years though.irateSho

http://calpreps.com/2019/ratings/Kentucky_all.htm

Pikeville achieved its Cal Preps ranking by beating a short handed Belfry team early in the season and walking through a very weak 1A class in the playoffs.

[jetpilot]

Pikeville achieved its Cal Preps ranking by beating a short handed Belfry team early in the season and walking through a very weak 1A class in the playoffs.

:biglmao:

[Eaglefan90]

This without a doubt and Pikeville would give JC all they wanted although Belfry got embarrassed..

No disrespect to the Panthers but the healthy JC from the regular season has Pikeville on a running clock early in the second half. The version of JC from the play-offs and its a late game running clock. Again not saying this to knock Pikeville because they are an excellent football team but as a comparison, I think even the healthy JC would struggle to avoid a running clock against Trinity and Male. The competition levels are just that different.

[maximus73]

The best way to answer any questions, call Matney and schedule a game next year ppl