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3A playoff posssibility
#1
Playoffs are set. Looking forward to a (potential) Belfry at Paducah Tilghman matchup in the 3A semifinals. Any team ever taken a flight to a playoff game?
#2
What happens if Belfry beats Johnson Central?
#3
And Tilman gets beat Friday by Hopkinsville?
#4
Craze JACKET man Wrote:And Tilman gets beat Friday by Hopkinsville?

Lots to still be determined. Nothing is set in stone. Belfry can take a big leap in the RPI If they can win Friday night at home against JC. They need to stay in front of Ashland/Russell for the third round and so would love for them to get to at least 2/3 overall in 3A, but they got to win Friday. If Tilghman loses Friday, then they may fall to 2 or 3 overall.
#5
Ashland getting screwed by RPI playing 4 out of state teams
#6
You through a 10 game schedule. Playing your district foes and now the KHSAA with this new system that should have been tested out last year before they just blindly implement it now makes the teams play against teams we just played. I like the cross district better. You get to play against new teams that you haven't faced before.
#7
Tilghman will struggle with Hopkinsville. Hoptown has been tough all year. PT's quarterback did not play Friday at Webster County due to a death in the family. Assume he will be available for Hoptown. Tilghman this year has lost to the teams that have throttled their running game and forced them to pass.

There was a scenario that almost set up in 2011 (I think) that would have sent Bell County to Tilghman, but upsets killed that part of the bracket.
#8
If Belfry was to lose Friday night how much of an RPI hit do you think they would take? I believe they could finish anywhere from 1 to 4 in the east based on Friday’s outcome
#9
Desales may jump up to number 1 because they play Meade 6A
#10
Ragnar Wrote:Desales may jump up to number 1 because they play Meade 6A

We have steadily been climbing. A lot of that is due to our
opponents that we have played and that many of them having been winning as well. We might end up overtaking the number 1 spot.
If we do. I like our chances.. People want to talk about home field advantage. We definitely have a home field advantage. This is the fourth year of our stadium, and only one team has ever beaten us there.
#11
ColtPride Wrote:We have steadily been climbing. A lot of that is due to our
opponents that we have played and that many of them having been winning as well. We might end up overtaking the number 1 spot.
If we do. I like our chances.. People want to talk about home field advantage. We definitely have a home field advantage. This is the fourth year of our stadium, and only one team has ever beaten us there.

I agree with you, BUT, that one team is very likely coming to Kenwood on November fifteenth, and I would rather see Tom Brady, then them; PTSD is a true disorder.

However, I would love the good guys to end the season of those fine folks; the kids are wonderful, the adults, not so much...
#12
RAM-A-DEVIL Wrote:Ashland getting screwed by RPI playing 4 out of state teams

:thanks::1:
#13
hollcat Wrote:Playoffs are set. Looking forward to a (potential) Belfry at Paducah Tilghman matchup in the 3A semifinals. Any team ever taken a flight to a playoff game?

Think that scenario, while possible, is sill a little premature.
#14
turkeysalad Wrote:I agree with you, BUT, that one team is very likely coming to Kenwood on November fifteenth, and I would rather see Tom Brady, then them; PTSD is a true disorder.

However, I would love the good guys to end the season of those fine folks; the kids are wonderful, the adults, not so much...

than.
1.introducing the second element in a comparison.
2.used in expressions introducing an exception or contrast.

than is used when you're talking about comparisons; then is used when you're talking about something relating to time.
#15
hollcat Wrote:Playoffs are set. Looking forward to a (potential) Belfry at Paducah Tilghman matchup in the 3A semifinals. Any team ever taken a flight to a playoff game?

Nothing is set yet. Not sure where you get that. RPI numbers are not locked in until after this Friday’s games.
#16
bucslover68 Wrote:Nothing is set yet. Not sure where you get that. RPI numbers are not locked in until after this Friday’s games.

Correct.
#17
The main point was that there is a possibility of a semifinal game where one team has to make a 6.5 hour trip. I just assumed that when people read Belfry at Paducah they would know that these two schools are a long way apart.
btw the first round of the playoffs are set.
#18
6.5 hours should be a plane ride. Shame on the KHSAA. I still think it's whoever comes out of District 4 will play Belfry for the title.
#19
RAM-A-DEVIL Wrote:Ashland getting screwed by RPI playing 4 out of state teams

These out of state opponents have a 26-8 combined record. However, per KHSAA the win percentage is set at .500 instead of .765 for these opponents.
#20
Assuming you don't travel in school buses, cross state trips in a tour bus can be relaxing. Get to see places you may not have seen before. Listen to music. Eat somewhere different. Whup on somebody and get some respect and enjoy the ride home.

That trip home is not much fun if you lose. But for those without budgetary constraints, Paducah does have commercial air service and the Barkley Regional airport is big enough to accommodate the presidential entourage so if you have the green or the credit, I guess an air charter is not out of the question.

Too bad Air Kentucky is no longer around.

If it were me in the east- I would be planning on making a trip to central Ky. rather than far western Ky.
#21
Runrunrun Wrote:If Belfry was to lose Friday night how much of an RPI hit do you think they would take? I believe they could finish anywhere from 1 to 4 in the east based on Friday’s outcome

Not much of a hit, in fact their RPI may increase even if they lose.

Johnson Central automatically improves both their Opponents Win percentage and Opponent's Opponents Win Percentage numbers. Belfry also gets a boost by "playing up".

With LCA potentially adding another highly rated win, Pikeville potentially remaining undefeated, and Pike Central playing an undefeated team you might see Belfry's RPI creep forward regardless of outcome. If Belfry beats Johnson Central they may have have a massive jump, especially if LCA wins.

Ashland is getting the shaft this week. If they lose to Spring Valley it will severely hurt their RPI, but if they beat them it won't give them as big of a jump as it should.
#22
dflpackage01 Wrote:These out of state opponents have a 26-8 combined record. However, per KHSAA the win percentage is set at .500 instead of .765 for these opponents.

Yep...

That is a maddening aspect of this and one that can easily be avoided with Maxpreps.

Ashland plays four solid out of State teams and may go 2-2. Had they played 0-10 West Virginia School for the Blind, 0-10 Ohio Performing Arts High School, 0-10 Hellen Keller Tech, and 0-10 The Zoolander Center for Kids Who Can't Read Good and went 4-0 they would have gotten a ton more points.

I get that the Opponents' Opponents Win percentage is tricky and should be counted at .500, but there is absolutely no reason that a school shouldn't have their overally record accounted for if they are out of state.


Teams like Trinity, CovCath, Belfry, JC, Ashlands etc that schedule strong out of State Teams are getting hosed when they are trying to play tough competition.
#23
Ashland has played a very strong schedule and yes they are getting screwed by this. They are 9-1 Ironton’s only loss and are getting ready to play a WV Power. To put Spring Valley in perspective Johnson Central beat Capital 28-13 and Spring Valley beat Capital 41-0.
#24
dflpackage01 Wrote:These out of state opponents have a 26-8 combined record. However, per KHSAA the win percentage is set at .500 instead of .765 for these opponents.

My understanding is that out of state opponets are weighed the same as KY teams. Their record isnt weighed at .500 and their true winning % is taking into the calculation. It's the out of state opponents' opponets that is weighed at .500. That's the way I understood it anyway.
#25
Paducah Tilghman and Belfry wouldn’t meet until the championship from what I understand from KHSAA seeding. Belfry is in the East and P.T. in the West. East districts 5-8 and west are 1-4. Top RPI in each of the East and west play home.
#26
dflpackage01 Wrote:These out of state opponents have a 26-8 combined record. However, per KHSAA the win percentage is set at .500 instead of .765 for these opponents.

four quarters Wrote:Paducah Tilghman and Belfry wouldn’t meet until the championship from what I understand from KHSAA seeding. Belfry is in the East and P.T. in the West. East districts 5-8 and west are 1-4. Top RPI in each of the East and west play home.

No, 3rd round is the only round that is east vs west. 4th round is the top remaining seed vs lowest remaining and 2 vs 3. Top seeds will be home team. A lot can change after this weeks games though depending on who wins and loses
#27
Thanks pirateforlife, this mess is so confusing for us older BGR guys. Cross district was always nice, but only two teams from the district instead of everyone (0-10) is also better. Four classes was fine for me. I wonder how many former football players are making these playoffs changes?
#28
pirateforlife Wrote:No, 3rd round is the only round that is east vs west. 4th round is the top remaining seed vs lowest remaining and 2 vs 3. Top seeds will be home team. A lot can change after this weeks games though depending on who wins and loses

Third round is East/East and Wesr/West and the semis are statewide and all out of state opponents are
.500. If you look on KHSAA at each teams breakdown of the RPI it will show you each game and out of state is .500 across the board.
#29
Tica Wrote:Assuming you don't travel in school buses, cross state trips in a tour bus can be relaxing. Get to see places you may not have seen before. Listen to music. Eat somewhere different. Whup on somebody and get some respect and enjoy the ride home.

That trip home is not much fun if you lose. But for those without budgetary constraints, Paducah does have commercial air service and the Barkley Regional airport is big enough to accommodate the presidential entourage so if you have the green or the credit, I guess an air charter is not out of the question.

Too bad Air Kentucky is no longer around.

If it were me in the east- I would be planning on making a trip to central Ky. rather than far western Ky.

Belfry rides in school buses.
#30
four quarters Wrote:Paducah Tilghman and Belfry wouldn’t meet until the championship from what I understand from KHSAA seeding. Belfry is in the East and P.T. in the West. East districts 5-8 and west are 1-4. Top RPI in each of the East and west play home.

PT and Belfry could very well meet in the semis. If PT is 1 and Belfry is 4, then BHS travels to PT and vice versa if the teams and seeds were switched.

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