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Rpi
#1
Ok it's started. KHSAA Changing the rules to help out the Private, BIG money schools:
https://twitter.com/zklemmeADI/status/11...73988?s=09
#2
KHSAA is a joke and getting worse all the time.
#3
Really!
#4
KHSAA is one of the top high school athletic associations in the country.. They are always will to change for the better. The RPI means nothing, just win games and it will work out at the end.
#5
I like the idea, but they should have waited until next season to implement this. Who makes changes in the middle of the season? It boils down to one thing, poor leadership. KHSAA is a joke!!!
#6
In all honesty, they didn’t change mid season. The actual rpi doesn’t go into affect until week six, per there notes on the scoreboards. What is interesting is the games schedule for contract next year, does a 3a belfry still wanna take a chance against a Pikeville. That scenario is just one example of many I could think of that even if you win you don’t gain much in rpi. Another would be a Corbin 4a and 2a Beechwood, if Corbin wins don’t gain much in rpi due to classification calculator. This will be interesting how it unveils in the coming weeks. They also need to clarify what multiplier is used per class.
#8
Iam4thecats Wrote:https://khsaa.org/resources/RPI/rpiexample2018fbapb.pdf

Thanks, makes it a little clearer but I think the multiplier should be greater between classes imo. They will get it worked out I am sure. Lol
#9
So you get more points from beating lowest ranked 2a team vs top ranked 1a team? And so on?
#10
The RPI did NOT have a change mid season. It was with the original plan. The only problem was is that the KHSAA did not include the "new" information in the original information about the RPI. They came out and said that this week.
#11
bucslover68 Wrote:The RPI did NOT have a change mid season. It was with the original plan. The only problem was is that the KHSAA did not include the "new" information in the original information about the RPI. They came out and said that this week.

No they added it because the big Louisville teams didn’t have a RPI number higher than a 1A School. So what they have done now is make it harder for 1A schools to schedule games. Why would any higher class school want to play a good 1A team that might beat them when you can play a weaker higher class team that you pretty well know you can beat. You get a higher factor number by 15% each class you go up. What they did made it worse if you could think that’s possible
#12
I really don’t think matters ....at the end of they year the same teams will be playing in the semis and in the finals like always! There just isn’t that many quality teams in each class to matter!
#13
Jackson Purchase Wrote:Ok it's started. KHSAA Changing the rules to help out the Private, BIG money schools:
https://twitter.com/zklemmeADI/status/11...73988?s=09

It helped out Male to pass North Hardin. You just made up the previous statement for no reason. THis part of the system existed in Colorado last year and we stole the system from Colorado.
#14
RAMDAD50 Wrote:I really don’t think matters ....at the end of they year the same teams will be playing in the semis and in the finals like always! There just isn’t that many quality teams in each class to matter!

What matters the most to me RAMDAD50, and what you said is true. But the way it is now you are going to eliminate 2 of the top teams in 1A in the second round at least in our districts. Meaning Raceland,Paintsville,Hazard or Pikeville. True you have to beat you opponents no matter who they are but you could end up with a lesser opponent in the third round. Just my feeling
#15
We stole our system from Colorado. Buckle up your seat belts because Colorado has one more thing that we didn't copy yet.
Colorado uses the RPI to decide who get in to the playoffs as well as seeding.
Get ready. Get your protest signs painted up.
#16
Craze JACKET man Wrote:KHSAA is one of the top high school athletic associations in the country.. They are always will to change for the better. The RPI means nothing, just win games and it will work out at the end.

You are being sarcastic aren’t you Craze Jacket man?
#17
Bossdaddy 4115 Wrote:Thanks, makes it a little clearer but I think the multiplier should be greater between classes imo. They will get it worked out I am sure. Lol

I can’t even know how you think that’s better. So what your saying play weak higher rank schools to get higher RPI #s so your team gets a better chance for home field advantage. It was awful before and only the KHSAA can make it worse.
#18
Patriot1 Wrote:I can’t even know how you think that’s better. So what your saying play weak higher rank schools to get higher RPI #s so your team gets a better chance for home field advantage. It was awful before and only the KHSAA can make it worse.

A lot of people on here are solution based and are dealing with the reality that exists instead of just complaining all the time.
#19
Because its obvious to everyone with an unbiased logical thought process that a win over 4-2 6a St.X is worth more than a win over 4-2 1a Williamsburg.
#20
Iam4thecats Wrote:Because its obvious to everyone with an unbiased logical thought process that a win over 4-2 6a St.X is worth more than a win over 4-2 1a Williamsburg.

You must be the one biased and on another thread you just stated it don’t compare between classes. So what difference does it make if a 6A school has a lower RPI# than a 1A. What I am getting at in the next few years it’s going to affect scheduling for the lower classes. Now if you can’t see that you definitely need to look alittle harder.
#21
Patriot1 Wrote:What matters the most to me RAMDAD50, and what you said is true. But the way it is now you are going to eliminate 2 of the top teams in 1A in the second round at least in our districts. Meaning Raceland,Paintsville,Hazard or Pikeville. True you have to beat you opponents no matter who they are but you could end up with a lesser opponent in the third round. Just my feeling

Effectively, the RPI ratings are going to reward “punching down” i.e. a better 1A team scheduling a higher class weaker team they know they have a better chance of beating, it order to increase their RPI rating, and therefore increase their likelihood of home field advantage in the playoffs due to said RPI ratings influencing their seeding. This is the way I’m understanding Patriot’s argument. Am I correct, Patriot? If so, I absolutely agree with you. If the RPI is not going to influence who gets into the playoffs, it’s one thing. But when it influences the location of games being played, then there is the whole matter of expenses to the schools involved, unfairly rewarding schools who have artificially inflated their rating to get the gate, and increasing travel costs, inconveniences such as logistics, and so forth, then it becomes a really bad thing.
#22
Patriot1 Wrote:You must be the one biased and on another thread you just stated it don’t compare between classes. So what difference does it make if a 6A school has a lower RPI# than a 1A. What I am getting at in the next few years it’s going to affect scheduling for the lower classes. Now if you can’t see that you definitely need to look alittle harder.

You might need to go back and look at the date on that thread. The new information came out on the 28th and there is a thread where you can see I changed opinion in mead thread based on new information. Or don't read and just keep making stuff up.
#23
Patriot1 Wrote:No they added it because the big Louisville teams didn’t have a RPI number higher than a 1A School. So what they have done now is make it harder for 1A schools to schedule games. Why would any higher class school want to play a good 1A team that might beat them when you can play a weaker higher class team that you pretty well know you can beat. You get a higher factor number by 15% each class you go up. What they did made it worse if you could think that’s possible
I see your point Patriot. I can tell you that Johnson Central wouldn’t have the first problem getting a series together with Pikeville despite the fact that it would benefit us more to play up. We just need games at this point and a close game with another mountain school would be a added bonus. Pikeville would benefit greatly in the RPI with a win over Johnson Central.
#24
Iam4thecats Wrote:You might need to go back and look at the date on that thread. The new information came out on the 28th and there is a thread where you can see I changed opinion in mead thread based on new information. Or don't read and just keep making stuff up.

I read but to me the only threads your on is the RPI threads sort like you are trying to promote this propaganda stuff. You must be the one they sent to Colorado to get this information and smoked a few while you were there. Not trying to get anything but information as to why giving that big of increase between classes is right. How anyone don’t think it’s going to affect scheduling is beyond me. Hope you have a great day because you definitely don’t have the majority on here.
#25
Patriot1 Wrote:I read but to me the only threads your on is the RPI threads sort like you are trying to promote this propaganda stuff. You must be the one they sent to Colorado to get this information and smoked a few while you were there. Not trying to get anything but information as to why giving that big of increase between classes is right. How anyone don’t think it’s going to affect scheduling is beyond me. Hope you have a great day because you definitely don’t have the majority on here.
I just try to give people facts so they aren't railing on something that isn't even true. I can't make you smarter. I am for the adoption of Calpreps. I hate Julian. I hate how this was done. But people like information.
#26
Iam4thecats Wrote:It helped out Male to pass North Hardin. You just made up the previous statement for no reason. THis part of the system existed in Colorado last year and we stole the system from Colorado.

Change was made for St. X
#27
Jackson Purchase Wrote:Change was made for St. X

Whatever dude. You have no idea.
#28
Jackson Purchase Wrote:Change was made for St. X

Maybe come up with a different made up state ment. If the playoffs started today X would be on the road for round 3 and 4. After the announcement was made.
#29
Iam4thecats Wrote:Whatever dude. You have no idea.

So I get it now what ever you say is the Gospel. Sorry buddy I get my Gospel from another book. Hey I have got no problem with you but like you I express my opinion. Sorry if you thought I was being negative at you I didn’t mean it that way. Just trying to give my opinion and grant you this I have been wrong many times in my life. But I do apologize to you I didn’t mean to be negative in any way just the way I feel and maybe I should have said it different.
#30
Patriot1 Wrote:So I get it now what ever you say is the Gospel. Sorry buddy I get my Gospel from another book. Hey I have got no problem with you but like you I express my opinion. Sorry if you thought I was being negative at you I didn’t mean it that way. Just trying to give my opinion and grant you this I have been wrong many times in my life. But I do apologize to you I didn’t mean to be negative in any way just the way I feel and maybe I should have said it different.

Read the post above yours. I am tryin g to deal in facts. AS of today X will be on the road for round 3 and 4. That is fact. X isn't the reason for the announcement. Do better.

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