[Spud6]

Would love to get a person from both teams to come on the podcast for this one. If you’d be willing just shoot me a message on here and we will set it up

[#55PirateFan]

I haven’t posted on this game for a reason. Now I just seen on mountain top sports they had a survey and the survey had Pikeville winning. So if it’s alright (#55PirateFan) with the rest of the posters we will just call this game off now. As always GO PANTHERS!!! PS that also means Pikeville wins just wanted to add that

Going to be a good game and great atmosphere my friend. Hope to get to see you Friday and talk some football. Was a pleasure meeting you a couple weeks ago at the LCA game. The Pitates and Panthers will be fine no matter the outcome of this game. Good luck Ol Buddy.

[Patriot1]

Going to be a good game and great atmosphere my friend. Hope to get to see you Friday and talk some football. Was a pleasure meeting you a couple weeks ago at the LCA game. The Pitates and Panthers will be fine no matter the outcome of this game. Good luck Ol Buddy.

Same to you and I hope it’s a good game. I will try to sneak over there at halftime and chat but I will not promise because I have been kind of sick this last week. But you know I only wish you guys the best but not this game but I still don’t want no injuries

[OutlawJoseyWales]

Belfry D way too much for a pikeville team struggling on offense. Will be quick and easy. 42-14

Don’t know about that....but it should be a very interesting game. I do think the game will be decided in the trenches. Will Belfry continue to stifle the run game like they have they thru the 1st 3 games?

Will Pikeville be able to establish a run game like they did at Hambley last year?

IMO....that’s where the game will be decided.

[Warriorhawk17]

Belfry-35
PIKEVILLE- 12

[#55PirateFan]

Bad news I'm hearing out of Pond Creek concerning "all everything" running back Dixon. Pirates may be without him Friday night. Not good!

[#55PirateFan]

On a good note, if Dixon can't play, look for the possibility of seeing Isiah Birchfield make his debut as RB in the Pirate backfield. Birchfield plays in our secondary on defense and the young man is tough as nails and has alot of speed. Not a big kid but he loves contact and should fill in just fine until Dixon is able to return.

[bucslover68]

If Dixon is out it makes this game much closer IMO. Belfry’s big play ability is diminished significantly. That being said, Belfry will have to have their best game of the year so far from the O line and the D will have to continue their stellar play. If Dixon can go at 90 pct with some explosiveness then I say you play him. He can rest some the next couple of weeks. If he can’t cut good or explode, I say he sits.

[#55PirateFan]

If Dixon is out it makes this game much closer IMO. Belfry’s big play ability is diminished significantly. That being said, Belfry will have to have their best game of the year so far from the O line and the D will have to continue their stellar play. If Dixon can go at 90 pct with some explosiveness then I say you play him. He can rest some the next couple of weeks. If he can’t cut good or explode, I say he sits.

Yelp, agree 100%. And your right about the O-Line. These guys have to start playing better football, period. They've had enough games already to where they should be showing some improvement. If it doesnt happen Friday night, if it were me, I'd start looking to make some changes.

[VoR_58]

What’s wrong with him?

[#55PirateFan]

What’s wrong with him?

Ankle

[64SUR]

Bad news I'm hearing out of Pond Creek concerning "all everything" running back Dixon. Pirates may be without him Friday night. Not good!

That want make me change my prediction :HitWall: :HitWall: :HitWall:

[bucslover68]

Official word on Dixon as of Tuesday evening....day to day.

[pirateforlife]

I can't see Belfry resting Dixon for this one unless he physically cant cut or run. He's not going to sit out just for precautionary reasons in a game this important. I say they tape it up and let him see what he can handle. If he's at 85 percent or better he plays IMO. After this week the schedule gets considerably easier with district play coming up. A win this Friday would help Belfry big time as far as RPI ratings go since Pikeville has highest RPI in the state. A win for Pikeville would all but lock up the #1 RPI for them in 1A. In years past, this game was just for bragging rights to the best team in Pike county. Now it's even bigger with the new RPI system used for seeding in the postseason.

[#55PirateFan]

I can't see Belfry resting Dixon for this one unless he physically cant cut or run. He's not going to sit out just for precautionary reasons in a game this important. I say they tape it up and let him see what he can handle. If he's at 85 percent or better he plays IMO. After this week the schedule gets considerably easier with district play coming up. A win this Friday would help Belfry big time as far as RPI ratings go since Pikeville has highest RPI in the state. A win for Pikeville would all but lock up the #1 RPI for them in 1A. In years past, this game was just for bragging rights to the best team in Pike county. Now it's even bigger with the new RPI system used for seeding in the postseason.

IMO, this game means alot more to Belfry than it does Pikeville this year because of the nine game schedule the Pirates ended up with. With only nine games, a loss here would be devastating!

[bucslover68]

I can't see Belfry resting Dixon for this one unless he physically cant cut or run. He's not going to sit out just for precautionary reasons in a game this important. I say they tape it up and let him see what he can handle. If he's at 85 percent or better he plays IMO. After this week the schedule gets considerably easier with district play coming up. A win this Friday would help Belfry big time as far as RPI ratings go since Pikeville has highest RPI in the state. A win for Pikeville would all but lock up the #1 RPI for them in 1A. In years past, this game was just for bragging rights to the best team in Pike county. Now it's even bigger with the new RPI system used for seeding in the postseason.

If Dixon doesn’t play it’s not because of them being precautious, it means he just can’t go. My gut says he will play, but we may not know until late Thursday or Friday at about 630. You are right about this BIG game being even BIGGER with the new RPI.

[Patriot1]

IMO, this game means alot more to Belfry than it does Pikeville this year because of the nine game schedule the Pirates ended up with. With only nine games, a loss here would be devastating!

The way it is looking now Pikeville only has 9 games also. So actually it’s big for both threw the new ratings. I still don’t understand them but it really only matters in where the games are played. Now I know that is a big deal but still you have to beat the teams in your class to get to the championship game. Do your job and execute and let the chips fall where they may. As always GO PANTHERS!!!

[OutlawJoseyWales]

IMO, this game means alot more to Belfry than it does Pikeville this year because of the nine game schedule the Pirates ended up with. With only nine games, a loss here would be devastating!

Yes....I would agree. Belfry’s short schedule is really gonna take its toll from a RPI perspective. This game and the JC game takes on new meaning......with potential home field implications hanging in the balance.

There is no denying this is a big game for Belfry this season.

[EKUAlum05]

I am hoping with Haywood and Coach Dixon's relationship at Hazard that Belfry and Hazard can play each other on October 11th.

Hazard was scheduled to play Jenkins that day and Belfry was already open.

[pirateforlife]

I dont think the KHSAA will allow Hazard and Belfry to play. From my understanding, even though the Jenkins game will not be played, it still goes in the record book at a 1-0 forfeit. It still counts on a teams record. This is why Belfry couldn't pick up Harlan County when Harlan decided to forfeit to them in week 0. Even though that game wasnt actually played, it goes in the record book that it was because of forfeit. Pikeville, hazard, or Phelps can't pick up any team to replace Jenkins because it would give them 11 games on their record.

[PHSForever]

I dont think the KHSAA will allow Hazard and Belfry to play. From my understanding, even though the Jenkins game will not be played, it still goes in the record book at a 1-0 forfeit. It still counts on a teams record. This is why Belfry couldn't pick up Harlan County when Harlan decided to forfeit to them in week 0. Even though that game wasnt actually played, it goes in the record book that it was because of forfeit. Pikeville, hazard, or Phelps can't pick up any team to replace Jenkins because it would give them 11 games on their record.

Which would point to how absolutely ludicrous it was to allow Jenkins back into district play. Screws everyone involved with their program as well as those forced to schedule them.

[Patriot1]

Which would point to how absolutely ludicrous it was to allow Jenkins back into district play. Screws everyone involved with their program as well as those forced to schedule them.

Kind of agree with you PHSForever, I hope Jenkins program gets turn around but with their situation right now they may have stuck to playing JV teams until their numbers got back up if they do. But the way these ratings format is going to work it just hurts the other schools plus it puts another bye in the playoff rounds. Because the in district play it’s going to give 3 bye weeks to some team.

[Patriot1]

Now since we all have done all our moaning about the RPI system back to the game. Now I have watched all of Pikeville’s games and Belfry’s. The reason I haven’t said anything is I don’t know which Pikeville team we are going to see plus I have been sick and still am to a point. Now I am not taking anything away from Paintsville or Raceland they had great game plans in those games and executed it very well and either one of those teams could have won those games. Now after playing those two good defensive teams now Pikeville has Belfry. Which in what I have seen is the best defensive team they have faced yet. Now really I could see this being a really good game but also see it as one you don’t want to remember. I am very interested in see if Pikeville comes out with the heart and hype they did in the first two weeks. It’s not like these two don’t know each other and know what to expect. Just hope they (both teams) stay healthy and improve from this game. As always GO PANTHERS!!!

[Tigerallamerican]

Wow what a match-up...gonna be a good one. I think LCA showed how to play with Beflry and I know a lot of Pikeville folks scouted that game. I like Pikevilles passing attack against Belfry's secondary. This game is what HS football is all about in the state of KY - the elk won't be the only thing screaming in the mountains on Friday night! Defensive battle - Pikeville 28 Befry 21. Best of luck to both sides!

[jetpilot]

I am hoping with Haywood and Coach Dixon's relationship at Hazard that Belfry and Hazard can play each other on October 11th.

Hazard was scheduled to play Jenkins that day and Belfry was already open.

Why would Hazard play Belfry the week before huge district game vs Pikeville with virtually no chance of improving RPI, especially after facing Somerset and Paintsville the previous two weeks? Never happen.

[Lord Grantham]

Pikeville, in an upset.

[EKUAlum05]

Why would Hazard play Belfry the week before huge district game vs Pikeville with virtually no chance of improving RPI, especially after facing Somerset and Paintsville the previous two weeks? Never happen.

Depends on how the KHSAA handles this.

If they rule it a forfeit the book is closed and Pikeville/Hazard get a win and all the crappy RPI points from beating Jenkins that comes with it.

If the KHSAA rules it is an open date in the schedule and not a forfeit, then it leaves a conundrum. The KHSAA RPI, by the formula, should give no points for a loss, but that doesnt appear to be the case since winless teams are posting points.

If Hazard wants points instead of no points in this instance a game against Belfry isn't a bad idea. Especially considering Hazard looks like they will be a 5 or 6 win team so every point may help if they can somehow make a playoff run.

The biggest benefit definitely lies in Belfry's favor from a RPI standpoint, but there is also something to be said for a week where you get no gate, no concessions, etc versus a game that I am sure Belfry would be more than willing to travel for that gets you a large crowd.

There is also something to be said for Dixon doing Haywood a "solid" and having Belfry owe them a favor. These two have scrimmaged and did 7 on 7 together for years and both staffs are close.

I know if I were Hazard I definitely would be tempted by full gate proceeds from a travelling Belfry fanbase. That money, especially when Hazard was originally scheduled to travel to Jenkins, sure would be nice in the Bulldog Athletics department budget.

[jetpilot]

Depends on how the KHSAA handles this.

If they rule it a forfeit the book is closed and Pikeville/Hazard get a win and all the crappy RPI points from beating Jenkins that comes with it.

If the KHSAA rules it is an open date in the schedule and not a forfeit, then it leaves a conundrum. The KHSAA RPI, by the formula, should give no points for a loss, but that doesnt appear to be the case since winless teams are posting points.

If Hazard wants points instead of no points in this instance a game against Belfry isn't a bad idea. Especially considering Hazard looks like they will be a 5 or 6 win team so every point may help if they can somehow make a playoff run.

The biggest benefit definitely lies in Belfry's favor from a RPI standpoint, but there is also something to be said for a week where you get no gate, no concessions, etc versus a game that I am sure Belfry would be more than willing to travel for that gets you a large crowd.

There is also something to be said for Dixon doing Haywood a "solid" and having Belfry owe them a favor. These two have scrimmaged and did 7 on 7 together for years and both staffs are close.

I know if I were Hazard I definitely would be tempted by full gate proceeds from a travelling Belfry fanbase. That money, especially when Hazard was originally scheduled to travel to Jenkins, sure would be nice in the Bulldog Athletics department budget.

If I were Hazard I would choose the option that gives me the best shot of beating Pikeville. Simple as that. And doing Haywood a "solid" and Belfry owing them one isn't in the same universe with what is best for Hazard.

[bucslover68]

Depends on how the KHSAA handles this.

If they rule it a forfeit the book is closed and Pikeville/Hazard get a win and all the crappy RPI points from beating Jenkins that comes with it.

If the KHSAA rules it is an open date in the schedule and not a forfeit, then it leaves a conundrum. The KHSAA RPI, by the formula, should give no points for a loss, but that doesnt appear to be the case since winless teams are posting points.

If Hazard wants points instead of no points in this instance a game against Belfry isn't a bad idea. Especially considering Hazard looks like they will be a 5 or 6 win team so every point may help if they can somehow make a playoff run.

The biggest benefit definitely lies in Belfry's favor from a RPI standpoint, but there is also something to be said for a week where you get no gate, no concessions, etc versus a game that I am sure Belfry would be more than willing to travel for that gets you a large crowd.

There is also something to be said for Dixon doing Haywood a "solid" and having Belfry owe them a favor. These two have scrimmaged and did 7 on 7 together for years and both staffs are close.

I know if I were Hazard I definitely would be tempted by full gate proceeds from a travelling Belfry fanbase. That money, especially when Hazard was originally scheduled to travel to Jenkins, sure would be nice in the Bulldog Athletics department budget.

It is 0 points for a loss but that’s only 1/3 of the equation....it is a “PLUS” formula...one factor PLUS plus another factor PLUS another factor equals RPI. Not each one MULTIPLIED x the other. That would indeed give a 0 since anything multiplied x 0 equals 0. RP1 equals ....GR(game result)=0.35 x WP(winning pctg) + 0.35 xOWP(opponents winning pctg) + 0.30 x OOWP (opponents opponents winning pctg)...add those three and get the RPI.

[OutlawJoseyWales]

Wow what a match-up...gonna be a good one. I think LCA showed how to play with Beflry and I know a lot of Pikeville folks scouted that game. I like Pikevilles passing attack against Belfry's secondary. This game is what HS football is all about in the state of KY - the elk won't be the only thing screaming in the mountains on Friday night! Defensive battle - Pikeville 28 Befry 21. Best of luck to both sides!

Depending on the availability of Dixon....Belfry’s offense should look different than the one LCA faced in the PCB. I don’t see Pikeville holding Belfry to 21 points, nor do I see Pikeville scoring 28. IMO, Pikeville was much more explosive last year than this years version....and Belfry’s Defense is much improved over last year.

Guess we’ll find out Friday ......

Let’s pray for an Injury free game.