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10-23-2018, 03:21 AM
Conservatives have been warning their liberal brethren across the aisle for decades about border security. The first I heard of the problem was during the Reagan Administration, when Democrats failed to fund the border wall as they had agreed to do as part of the agreement worked out with then President Reagan. The lied in other words.
In fact since the 1980's, liberal Dems have pooh-poohed sound and rational border security as completely unnecessary. And Republicans who've championed national security since the days following WW2 have been mocked and berated by these same liberal Dems the whole time. Any moron can laugh at reality. It occurs to me however, that if Mexico can't muster will power enough to thwart the encroaching onslaught of thousands of civilians bent on illegally crashing our border, how much better would they be expected to fare with the invasion force of a military Superpower? IMHO, the US is wide open to invasion from the south.
Despite an existing and replete video account, (said films clearly depicting the oceans of blood shed by the American soldiers called up to defend the US in WW1, WW2 and many other wars), liberals continue to insist all we have to do is NOT start a war, and there won't be any war. A notion of which only the sublimely naïve could possibly buy into. Ask Barack Obama, he simply declared war a thing of the past. "It's just not 21st Century thinking." Problem solved. Just say it and it becomes reality, jump into your onesies and get yourself a nice cup of hot cocoa. :biggrin:
Well there is coming at the US right now, nothing short of an invasionary force from Central America. I realize it isn't a military force per se, but it is a forced invasion on the borders of our sovereign nation none the less, 7500 strong as of today and growing. What are we going to do if the number of this throng of lawless and impudent thugs who think America owes them something, grows to a much larger number? This is how naïve and arrogant Democrats are right now. whom BTW are openly campaigning to ban ICE. The people Democrat voters have elected to office are actually so shallow and so ignorant of human history that they could not see this coming. Everybody else could, and it could be a very real problem. IF in two weeks Dems take the Congress back in the midterms, it all might not matter anyway. I hope people's eyes are opened.
In fact since the 1980's, liberal Dems have pooh-poohed sound and rational border security as completely unnecessary. And Republicans who've championed national security since the days following WW2 have been mocked and berated by these same liberal Dems the whole time. Any moron can laugh at reality. It occurs to me however, that if Mexico can't muster will power enough to thwart the encroaching onslaught of thousands of civilians bent on illegally crashing our border, how much better would they be expected to fare with the invasion force of a military Superpower? IMHO, the US is wide open to invasion from the south.
Despite an existing and replete video account, (said films clearly depicting the oceans of blood shed by the American soldiers called up to defend the US in WW1, WW2 and many other wars), liberals continue to insist all we have to do is NOT start a war, and there won't be any war. A notion of which only the sublimely naïve could possibly buy into. Ask Barack Obama, he simply declared war a thing of the past. "It's just not 21st Century thinking." Problem solved. Just say it and it becomes reality, jump into your onesies and get yourself a nice cup of hot cocoa. :biggrin:
Well there is coming at the US right now, nothing short of an invasionary force from Central America. I realize it isn't a military force per se, but it is a forced invasion on the borders of our sovereign nation none the less, 7500 strong as of today and growing. What are we going to do if the number of this throng of lawless and impudent thugs who think America owes them something, grows to a much larger number? This is how naïve and arrogant Democrats are right now. whom BTW are openly campaigning to ban ICE. The people Democrat voters have elected to office are actually so shallow and so ignorant of human history that they could not see this coming. Everybody else could, and it could be a very real problem. IF in two weeks Dems take the Congress back in the midterms, it all might not matter anyway. I hope people's eyes are opened.
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10-23-2018, 03:57 AM
The GOP is a big part of the problem. Republicans have controlled Congress and the White House for two years and very little progress has been made toward securing the border. I will never vote for a Democrat at any level of government, but I am getting fed up with empty promises of building a wall or otherwise securing our borders.
There are simply too many Republicans whose strings are being pulled by the national Chamber of Congress and other big donors who want the flow of cheap labor to continue unabated to get anything meaningful done.
It really does not matter whether illegal aliens pour over the border because Democrats want their votes, or Republicans want cheap labor the end results will be the same.
We were told that nobody would be as tough on illegal immigration as Donald Trump. The time for cheap talk is over. Trump needs to do much more than he has done so far and stop promising to build a wall as an applause line for political rallies.
There are simply too many Republicans whose strings are being pulled by the national Chamber of Congress and other big donors who want the flow of cheap labor to continue unabated to get anything meaningful done.
It really does not matter whether illegal aliens pour over the border because Democrats want their votes, or Republicans want cheap labor the end results will be the same.
We were told that nobody would be as tough on illegal immigration as Donald Trump. The time for cheap talk is over. Trump needs to do much more than he has done so far and stop promising to build a wall as an applause line for political rallies.
10-23-2018, 04:40 AM
^^ Seriously? You can't see the writing on the wall here? Some reports have the number associated with the caravan now at 14 thousand. The sky's the limit as far as number of future caravans, and the number of those who take part in those caravans. And you think it doesn't matter huh?
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10-23-2018, 04:56 AM
TheRealThing Wrote:^^ Seriously? You can't see the writing on the wall here? Some reports have the number associated with the caravan now at 14 thousand. The sky's the limit as far as number of future caravans, and the number of those who take part in those caravans. And you think it doesn't matter huh?Illegal immigration is a serious matter and it is time that the GOP and Trump use their majority status to fulfill their campaign promises. It is easy to blame liberal Democrats for all of this nation's ills, but when we elect Republicans to majority positions, they need to do what we sent them to Washington to do.
This is national security and our children's future at stake. The elections of 2016 should have yielded more results. Perpetual campaign promises followed by excuses for not securing the border are a poor substitute for real results.
10-23-2018, 05:16 AM
Hoot Gibson Wrote:The GOP is a big part of the problem. Republicans have controlled Congress and the White House for two years and very little progress has been made toward securing the border. I will never vote for a Democrat at any level of government, but I am getting fed up with empty promises of building a wall or otherwise securing our borders.
There are simply too many Republicans whose strings are being pulled by the national Chamber of Congress and other big donors who want the flow of cheap labor to continue unabated to get anything meaningful done.
It really does not matter whether illegal aliens pour over the border because Democrats want their votes, or Republicans want cheap labor the end results will be the same.
We were told that nobody would be as tough on illegal immigration as Donald Trump. The time for cheap talk is over. Trump needs to do much more than he has done so far and stop promising to build a wall as an applause line for political rallies.
Did you miss the part where Congress has to allocate the money?
10-23-2018, 05:41 AM
jetpilot Wrote:Did you miss the part where Congress has to allocate the money?I did not miss that point at all. Nor did I miss the point that Trump has veto power over the budget. Trump cannot be held blameless for his inability to impose his political will on his own party, assuming that his political will is to fulfill his number one campaign promise.
I hate liberal Democrats as much as anybody who posts on this site and I truly believe that a large number of them should be charged, convicted, and imprisoned for serious crimes. But when it comes to national security, liberal Democrats have many Republican accomplices, or else our borders would already have been secured.
We need to defeat liberal candidates, but if we don't attempt to hold the people for whom we vote accountable for their actions and inaction, then all we are doing is maybe slowing the rate of decline of this country. That is not good enough.
10-23-2018, 05:51 AM
Hoot Gibson Wrote:I did not miss that point at all. Nor did I miss the point that Trump has veto power over the budget. Trump cannot be held blameless for his inability to impose his political will on his own party, assuming that his political will is to fulfill his number one campaign promise.
I hate liberal Democrats as much as anybody who posts on this site and I truly believe that a large number of them should be charged, convicted, and imprisoned for serious crimes. But when it comes to national security, liberal Democrats have many Republican accomplices, or else our borders would already have been secured.
We need to defeat liberal candidates, but if we don't attempt to hold the people for whom we vote accountable for their actions and inaction, then all we are doing is maybe slowing the rate of decline of this country. That is not good enough.
I agree with your post, but the bolded is exactly the problem, not Trump. Immigration is a losing proposition for Dems in the midterms IMO and then I fully expect Trump to be all over Republicans to fund the dang wall.
10-23-2018, 03:27 PM
^^And here's another 'problem.' No matter what anybody tells you the Dems of late have caused this, not Republicans. But they make it a moral issue, saying that Republicans don't have heart. Which is of course a lie from the pit. These societies such as Honduras and Mexico need to be reformed from within.
And speaking of moral issues, the argument against nation building and regime change has been made against US Government leaders of the past whom tried to do so covertly or otherwise. And that argument was made in the main, by liberal Dems. I heard Heraldo Rivera make this a moral argument again only last night in saying we who have everything should expect this as the new normal from those who have nothing. All of these renaissance men like Heraldo and Jorge Ramos need to lead by example with their wallets and their service. They're enlightened so they say, so they and others like them in the US should run for office in Mexico and Honduras and wherever. Let them stand up and really do something to transform these societies which have existed in squalor for umpteen thousands of years before Columbus sailed the ocean blue. It's easy for them to sit back and run their mouths all the time about how much more money and grief US taxpayers should ante up.
In the meantime, the southern invasion force HAS to be stopped just as the President has said. And the darn wall needs to be built. And 'the people' need to recognize that though there have been plenty of Paul Ryan-esque accomplices out there. It was the Obama administration and the rabid lefties that sprouted up during his tenure that have caused this present day crisis. They weren't smart enough to see the day when thousands would come here with the intent of forgoing the sham immigration process and just kick the door down on the way in like they're owed something in the US.
And speaking of moral issues, the argument against nation building and regime change has been made against US Government leaders of the past whom tried to do so covertly or otherwise. And that argument was made in the main, by liberal Dems. I heard Heraldo Rivera make this a moral argument again only last night in saying we who have everything should expect this as the new normal from those who have nothing. All of these renaissance men like Heraldo and Jorge Ramos need to lead by example with their wallets and their service. They're enlightened so they say, so they and others like them in the US should run for office in Mexico and Honduras and wherever. Let them stand up and really do something to transform these societies which have existed in squalor for umpteen thousands of years before Columbus sailed the ocean blue. It's easy for them to sit back and run their mouths all the time about how much more money and grief US taxpayers should ante up.
In the meantime, the southern invasion force HAS to be stopped just as the President has said. And the darn wall needs to be built. And 'the people' need to recognize that though there have been plenty of Paul Ryan-esque accomplices out there. It was the Obama administration and the rabid lefties that sprouted up during his tenure that have caused this present day crisis. They weren't smart enough to see the day when thousands would come here with the intent of forgoing the sham immigration process and just kick the door down on the way in like they're owed something in the US.
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10-24-2018, 02:47 AM
TheRealThing Wrote:^^ Seriously? You can't see the writing on the wall here? Some reports have the number associated with the caravan now at 14 thousand. The sky's the limit as far as number of future caravans, and the number of those who take part in those caravans. And you think it doesn't matter huh?
"A second migrant caravan is heading for the American border having formed in the wake of an initial group, which has already crossed Guatemala and entered Mexico."
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article...first.html
I rest my case, the first invasion hasn't even made it half way and another is already following them.
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10-24-2018, 03:39 AM
TheRealThing Wrote:"A second migrant caravan is heading for the American border having formed in the wake of an initial group, which has already crossed Guatemala and entered Mexico."Liberal Democrats did not start their attempt to destroy this nation's culture when Donald J. Trump took office. If Republicans lose control of the House, President Trump will receive and will deserve to receive a large measure of blame for not doing more to secure our southern border while the GOP controlled Congress. Building a wall was the campaign promise that Trump made the cornerstone of his campaign.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article...first.html
I rest my case, the first invasion hasn't even made it half way and another is already following them.
Yes, liberal Democrats are a blight on this nation's landscape, but they were evil socialists before Trump decided to run for the presidency. Getting the wall built would have been well worth a government shutdown early in his term while he still had plenty of political capital to spend.
10-24-2018, 04:24 AM
Sorry Hoot blaming Trump instead of Congress is ignorant IMO. Government shutdown I'm laughing uncontrollably. You must have forgotten what all GOP Congresspeople were saying about a government shutdown. Your post would only make sense to MSNBC viewers.
10-24-2018, 05:20 AM
Hoot Gibson Wrote:Liberal Democrats did not start their attempt to destroy this nation's culture when Donald J. Trump took office. If Republicans lose control of the House, President Trump will receive and will deserve to receive a large measure of blame for not doing more to secure our southern border while the GOP controlled Congress. Building a wall was the campaign promise that Trump made the cornerstone of his campaign.
Yes, liberal Democrats are a blight on this nation's landscape, but they were evil socialists before Trump decided to run for the presidency. Getting the wall built would have been well worth a government shutdown early in his term while he still had plenty of political capital to spend.
There is a post in the House of Representatives called Speaker... you may have heard of it, IDK. Anyway, it is no secret that the Speaker is a flaming globalist who has refused to fund the wall. I've blasted Republicans for harboring RINO's in their midst, and I've blasted McConnell specifically for his dogged dedication to the filibuster rule, his kissing up to the very Dems who wouldn't spit on him if he was aflame, and passing on the opportunity to do some real good in this land in wasting the past two years of Republican majority. I mean, a real argument could be made in the case of most legislative machinations during that period, that Schumer was the actual the Leader of the Senate. Outside of SC appointments and regulation reduction t's been ridiculous. Past that, given the outrageous attacks MR Trump has endured starting even before his inauguration, maybe by his calculation vetoing the budget would have been counterproductive when he first took office. In any event, I'm not looking to find an easy place to the lay the blame for this country's ills. To all but the willfully ignorant, the blame happens to be patently ascribable to the Democrats who've been at war nonstop with Republicans from the Reagan Era onward.
Liberal Democrats are a blight on the land. And I have cut them zero slack for the fact, as I have mentioned their shenanigans ad-nauseum since I came on this forum. Further, I believe the threat of Dems taking the house (even if Republicans do hold the Senate) to be existential for this Republic.
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10-24-2018, 10:51 AM
Being an effective President of the U.S. requires some political skills and it takes courage. Making empty threats to veto budget bills that do not fund a border wall has robbed Trump of all credibility on this issue.
If Trump does not have the stomach to take on Ryan and McConnell on this issue, then he should at the very least stop making empty promises to build a wall and focus attention on areas where he is not so impotent. At this point, Trump sounds ridiculous when he continues to claim that he is going to "build that wall."
Trump's continuing failure in this area is risking not only control of the House in next month's election, but control of the Senate and the White House in 2020. If President Trump cannot persuade his own party to enact legislation to make good on his signature campaign promise, why should anybody believe that he will do any better when faced with Speaker Pelosi or Majority Leader Schumer?
Few Republican presidents in modern history have been fortunate enough to serve while their own party controlled both houses of Congress. Things will not get any easier for Trump than they have been for the past two years.
If Trump does not have the stomach to take on Ryan and McConnell on this issue, then he should at the very least stop making empty promises to build a wall and focus attention on areas where he is not so impotent. At this point, Trump sounds ridiculous when he continues to claim that he is going to "build that wall."
Trump's continuing failure in this area is risking not only control of the House in next month's election, but control of the Senate and the White House in 2020. If President Trump cannot persuade his own party to enact legislation to make good on his signature campaign promise, why should anybody believe that he will do any better when faced with Speaker Pelosi or Majority Leader Schumer?
Few Republican presidents in modern history have been fortunate enough to serve while their own party controlled both houses of Congress. Things will not get any easier for Trump than they have been for the past two years.
10-24-2018, 10:26 PM
Hoot Gibson Wrote:Being an effective President of the U.S. requires some political skills and it takes courage. Making empty threats to veto budget bills that do not fund a border wall has robbed Trump of all credibility on this issue.
If Trump does not have the stomach to take on Ryan and McConnell on this issue, then he should at the very least stop making empty promises to build a wall and focus attention on areas where he is not so impotent. At this point, Trump sounds ridiculous when he continues to claim that he is going to "build that wall."
Trump's continuing failure in this area is risking not only control of the House in next month's election, but control of the Senate and the White House in 2020. If President Trump cannot persuade his own party to enact legislation to make good on his signature campaign promise, why should anybody believe that he will do any better when faced with Speaker Pelosi or Majority Leader Schumer?
Few Republican presidents in modern history have been fortunate enough to serve while their own party controlled both houses of Congress. Things will not get any easier for Trump than they have been for the past two years.
Well, Trump didn't have the skills you mention when he first came to office to be sure. IF there were so much as a teaspoon of integrity to be found in DC, he might have reasonably expected his newly made cohorts to extend him some decency when he got there, if for no other's sake than we the people. But no, he's gotten the back of the hand at every turn and I don't need any help with this one, it has been a shame and an abomination to everything this land stands for. It took every new president some time to get things going by my recollection, and that includes Bill Clinton and George W..
In modern times (FDR forward) there has never been a situation in the federal government like the one we have seen with the Trump Administration. As I have been saying repeatedly even before his election, Trump, with the will of the people behind him no less, has had to take on the disloyal opposition party and a biased and corrupt media, an indoctrinated deepstate, his own party majority in both Houses, and in some cases the activist judiciary.
With the midterms now upon us I no more believe the polls or the media, about the outcome on this election than I did the last one. But for those who like to cite past political scenarios and make predictions based on historical considerations in our time is to me, evidence that most people still don't get that. To quote Tommy Lee Jones, "It's a brave new world."
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10-25-2018, 07:24 AM
jetpilot Wrote:Hoot I like you but I can get what you are spewing about Trump from Kristol or Scarborough et al titter feeds or MSNBC and CNN...I don't watch cable news - I am just not into hero worship. Trump made some promises during the campaign that I never believed were serious or honest and building a border wall was one of them. The results speak for themselves.
I despise Scarborough and Kristol. I am a conservative. Trump, Scarborough, and Krystol have their political differences but none of them are conservatives. Making excuses for Trump is not going to stop the flow of illegals into this country.
Nobody forced Trump to run for president. McConnell, Ryan, liberal Democrats, and the national media have not changed since he made that decision. On illegal immigration, Trump has been long on talk and short on walk.
10-30-2018, 03:52 AM
As of today there are at least 5 caravans of invaders headed for our border, and Dems are busy trying their hardest to make Trump out to be the bad guy here. In 7 days we will find out if the people want freedom or anarchy.
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10-30-2018, 05:54 AM
Hoot Gibson Wrote:I don't watch cable news - I am just not into hero worship. Trump made some promises during the campaign that I never believed were serious or honest and building a border wall was one of them. The results speak for themselves.
I despise Scarborough and Kristol. I am a conservative. Trump, Scarborough, and Krystol have their political differences but none of them are conservatives. Making excuses for Trump is not going to stop the flow of illegals into this country.
Nobody forced Trump to run for president. McConnell, Ryan, liberal Democrats, and the national media have not changed since he made that decision. On illegal immigration, Trump has been long on talk and short on walk.
Who the he!! said they are worshiping a hero?
If you aren't for Trump you are for Democrats. That is where we are.
Of everyone who has been in Washington for the last 100 years, it is idiotic to blame Trump for the immigration crisis. Tell me Hoot, and I know I won't get a straight answer from you, WHO IS YOUR GO TO ILLEGAL ALIEN IMMIGRATION GURU???
You won't answer, you will just blame Trump.
I trust Trump 1000% more than all the turds of all stripes in Washington D.C.
10-30-2018, 07:42 AM
jetpilot Wrote:Who the he!! said they are worshiping a hero?I don't need a guru. I can think and see for myself.
If you aren't for Trump you are for Democrats. That is where we are.
Of everyone who has been in Washington for the last 100 years, it is idiotic to blame Trump for the immigration crisis. Tell me Hoot, and I know I won't get a straight answer from you, WHO IS YOUR GO TO ILLEGAL ALIEN IMMIGRATION GURU???
You won't answer, you will just blame Trump.
I trust Trump 1000% more than all the turds of all stripes in Washington D.C.
Illegal immigration is a huge problem in this country and if Trump has not secured full funding a border wall with a Republican controlled Congress he is not going to do so if the GOP loses control of the House and/or Senate. To say that criticizing Trump for not making an honest attempt to keep his number one campaign promise is the same as supporting the Democrats on illegal immigration is just pure ignorance.
10-30-2018, 07:57 AM
Hoot Gibson Wrote:I don't need a guru. I can think and see for myself.
Illegal immigration is a huge problem in this country and if Trump has not secured full funding a border wall with a Republican controlled Congress he is not going to do so if the GOP loses control of the House and/or Senate. To say that criticizing Trump for not making an honest attempt to keep his number one campaign promise is the same as supporting the Democrats on illegal immigration is just pure ignorance.
Yet you offer no solutions. I knew no straight answer would ever be coming from you. Another response straight from the Scarborough and Kristol twitter feeds.
10-30-2018, 08:20 AM
jetpilot Wrote:Yet you offer no solutions. I knew no straight answer would ever be coming from you.If I have no solution, then my position is no worse than Trump's. Sometimes, the winning presidential candidate has to stand up to his own party to enact his agenda. Ted Cruz would have done so. He might have been unsuccessful, but he would have taken the fight to McConnell and Ryan. How do I know? Because he has done it before.
Donald Trump's actual record is that he criticized George W. Bush for taking too harsh of a stand against illegal immigrants.
Candidates' records are the best indicator of future performance, not their campaign promises. Donald Trump's position on illegal immigration was a campaign strategy, not an action plan.
My solution would be almost identical to the actions that Trump promised to take if elected. The difference between us is that I never believed that Trump would deliver on that promise, so I have not been too disappointed in his performance.
Trump has, in most ways exceeded my expectations and his success in getting two apparently conservative nominees seated at the Supreme Court was enough to justify my vote for Trump.
As for the "caravans" headed for our southern border, if I were president, I would quietly deliver an ultimatum to Mexico. If the caravans made it to the border, then I would load the invaders onto an aircraft carrier and return them to Mexico's southern border. Mexico's aid to illegal immigrants is an act of war, IMO, and should be treated as such.
10-30-2018, 08:22 AM
Hoot Gibson Wrote:I don't need a guru. I can think and see for myself.
Illegal immigration is a huge problem in this country and if Trump has not secured full funding a border wall with a Republican controlled Congress he is not going to do so if the GOP loses control of the House and/or Senate. To say that criticizing Trump for not making an honest attempt to keep his number one campaign promise is the same as supporting the Democrats on illegal immigration is just pure ignorance.
And I'd like to add for a guy such as yourself who has it all figured out I never see the first thing from you on how to fix anything.
10-30-2018, 08:25 AM
jetpilot Wrote:And I'd like to add for a guy such as yourself who has it all figured out I never see the first thing from you on how to fix anything.I have outlined my solution and that is certainly more than you have done. I support Trump doing what he promised to do.
10-30-2018, 08:31 AM
Hoot Gibson Wrote:If I have no solution, then my position is no worse than Trump's. Sometimes, the winning presidential candidate has to stand up to his own party to enact his agenda. Ted Cruz would have done so. He might have been unsuccessful, but he would have taken the fight to McConnell and Ryan. How do I know? Because he has done it before.
Donald Trump's actual record is that he criticized George W. Bush for taking too harsh of a stand against illegal immigrants.
Candidates' records are the best indicator of future performance, not their campaign promises. Donald Trump's position on illegal immigration was a campaign strategy, not an action plan.
My solution would be almost identical to the actions that Trump promised to take if elected. The difference between us is that I never believed that Trump would deliver on that promise, so I have not been too disappointed in his performance.
Trump has, in most ways exceeded my expectations and his success in getting two apparently conservative nominees seated at the Supreme Court was enough to justify my vote for Trump.
As for the "caravans" headed for our southern border, if I were president, I would quietly deliver an ultimatum to Mexico. If the caravans made it to the border, then I would load the invaders onto an aircraft carrier and return them to Mexico's southern border. Mexico's aid to illegal immigrants is an act of war, IMO, and should be treated as such.
I can buy that but someone could stub a toe or be separated from their family. And doesn't really need to be true but can be made up by fake news. God forbid some kid is lost overboard. So you have a public relations boondoggle. Our laws have to be enforced and since they aren't and Congress hasn't funded the wall here we are. It is up to Trump and Trump alone and I have no faith in anyone else. If you have faith in anyone else tell me who it is. You won't do it.
10-30-2018, 12:55 PM
jetpilot Wrote:To be clear my solution is enforce our damn laws and fund the damn wall. I think it is clearly 100x superior to your quick fix which would not be a fix at all, it would be a nightmare and not begin to scratch the surface of the long term problem.Mexico has played no small role in the invasion of this country by illegal aliens. You may think sending illegals back to Mexico on an aircraft carrier is a quick fix, but I don't the significance of sailing a US Navy aircraft carrier into Mexican territory would be lost on the Mexican government. The message that I would deliver quietly to that government would be that their invasion of our sovereign territory is an act of war and we are sending an armada loaded with illegals this time, but the payload to be delivered next time will be much more lethal. In other words, as president, I would systematically embarrass the Mexican government by violating their sovereignty until they stop invading ours. The alternative for the Mexicans should be a shooting war, if they cannot take a hint.
There should be some principles more important to a US president than timidly avoiding the political embarrassment of a government shutdown. Trump has painted himself into a corner with empty threats to veto budget bills that do not fund a border wall.
10-30-2018, 03:47 PM
Trump declaring an end to birthright citizenship is long overdue not it is definitely a step in the right direction. Undoubtedly, a liberal federal judge will quickly declare the move unconstitutional, but getting the issue before this Supreme Court is worth the risk. This will remove a major reason draw illegal immigration.
10-30-2018, 05:19 PM
Of all the Presidents we've had since Eisenhower, (and I remember them all) Trump has more chin than his predecessors all put together. And that includes Ronald Reagan, whom had his presidency been in 2016 rather than 1980, would have faired MUCH worse under the same conditions to which Trump has been subjected.
Said conditions, being the fact that the US Congress is in all out war with itself. A fact, that is made all the more bizarre when one considers that Republicans are still in denial about. Meanwhile the Speaker of the House is a true bleeding heart lib incapable of lucidity, much less fair and open governance. And he has opposed the President in every way could. And in looking at the Senate Majority Leader's thoughts and actions, it would seem he is equally oblivious to the war, and in denial about the devastating barrage of insanity launched daily from the left.
It was more than high time that a strong leader with traditional values stepped up to shake things up in DC. 'Drain the swamp' is far more meaningful an idea than some glib campaign phrase, as identity politics based on political correctness have taken over the daily operations of the federal government. I've used the analogy of the Titanic before, but it still fits the situation before us. As the ship slid down into the icy blackness, up on deck the band played music. An act if you ask me of insanity. In no lesser degree, is this mad push we see from Congress to force Americans into globalism. Only in the imaginations of liberals could a world without borders work.
As predicted, MR Trump has had to take on the media and the establishment. And the task has been daunting. We do need more (new) Republicans in Congress, and that is job one which we must see to accomplishing as the first order of business. After November 7th, we can then turn our attention to turning back this invasion. And I did call this obvious threat out in post #3 above. But Americans are so naïve and sleepy these days that I wonder what in the world could ever wake them up.
BTW, though an entirely predictable outcome, I have my suspicions about how these so-called caravans got started in the first place. Especially two weeks before the midterms.
Said conditions, being the fact that the US Congress is in all out war with itself. A fact, that is made all the more bizarre when one considers that Republicans are still in denial about. Meanwhile the Speaker of the House is a true bleeding heart lib incapable of lucidity, much less fair and open governance. And he has opposed the President in every way could. And in looking at the Senate Majority Leader's thoughts and actions, it would seem he is equally oblivious to the war, and in denial about the devastating barrage of insanity launched daily from the left.
It was more than high time that a strong leader with traditional values stepped up to shake things up in DC. 'Drain the swamp' is far more meaningful an idea than some glib campaign phrase, as identity politics based on political correctness have taken over the daily operations of the federal government. I've used the analogy of the Titanic before, but it still fits the situation before us. As the ship slid down into the icy blackness, up on deck the band played music. An act if you ask me of insanity. In no lesser degree, is this mad push we see from Congress to force Americans into globalism. Only in the imaginations of liberals could a world without borders work.
As predicted, MR Trump has had to take on the media and the establishment. And the task has been daunting. We do need more (new) Republicans in Congress, and that is job one which we must see to accomplishing as the first order of business. After November 7th, we can then turn our attention to turning back this invasion. And I did call this obvious threat out in post #3 above. But Americans are so naïve and sleepy these days that I wonder what in the world could ever wake them up.
BTW, though an entirely predictable outcome, I have my suspicions about how these so-called caravans got started in the first place. Especially two weeks before the midterms.
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10-30-2018, 05:41 PM
Hoot Gibson Wrote:Trump declaring an end to birthright citizenship is long overdue not it is definitely a step in the right direction. Undoubtedly, a liberal federal judge will quickly declare the move unconstitutional, but getting the issue before this Supreme Court is worth the risk. This will remove a major reason draw illegal immigration.
A liberal federal judge will rule a constitutional amendment constitutional? Say it ain't so.
10-30-2018, 06:13 PM
Motley Wrote:A liberal federal judge will rule a constitutional amendment constitutional? Say it ain't so.Liberal judges ruling unpopular constitutional laws constitutional are man bored dog stories. It happens, but very rarely.
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