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10-24-2018, 12:20 AM
These are opponents' records for the first 15 3A teams listed on Calpreps. Believe it is current through today. Take it for what it is worth. Just showing what they have listed. Not my research.
Boyle Co. 44-38
Corbin - 47-35
Belfry - 38-42
Tilghman 43-40
Lex. Cath. - 43-39
Central - 41-41
Caldwell Co. - 44-38
Bell Co. - 29-52
E-town - 48-33
Western Hls - 46-36
Waggener - 39-43
Casey - 35-46
Russell - 42-42
Lawrence - 51-42
Union - 39-43
Boyle Co. 44-38
Corbin - 47-35
Belfry - 38-42
Tilghman 43-40
Lex. Cath. - 43-39
Central - 41-41
Caldwell Co. - 44-38
Bell Co. - 29-52
E-town - 48-33
Western Hls - 46-36
Waggener - 39-43
Casey - 35-46
Russell - 42-42
Lawrence - 51-42
Union - 39-43
10-24-2018, 12:26 AM
Take district games against McCreary and Jackson County out and Corbin's opponents would be 45-19.
10-24-2018, 12:27 AM
44-13 against opponents other than Corbin.
10-24-2018, 01:16 AM
Corbin always plays one of the toughest schedules in the state. Excluding some of the big private schools. It pays dividends at the end as well.
10-24-2018, 02:07 AM
After playing Knox Central this week can add on 7 more wins hh:
10-24-2018, 02:51 AM
Theres a lot more to strength of schedule than raw wins and losses. Calpreps 3a schedule numbers ranked here:
Lex. Cath. 15.1
Boyle Co.12.8
Corbin 3.9
Western Hls 3.9
Central 3.3
Tilghman 3.2
Caldwell Co. 2.6
E-town 2.4
Waggener 1
Belfry 0.9
Union minus 7.4
Lawrence minus 7.6
Russell minus 7.9
Bell Co. minus 12.8
Casey minus 14.1
Lex. Cath. 15.1
Boyle Co.12.8
Corbin 3.9
Western Hls 3.9
Central 3.3
Tilghman 3.2
Caldwell Co. 2.6
E-town 2.4
Waggener 1
Belfry 0.9
Union minus 7.4
Lawrence minus 7.6
Russell minus 7.9
Bell Co. minus 12.8
Casey minus 14.1
10-24-2018, 03:07 AM
Sheds a little more light. Just wins and losses do not tell the whole story. We must do better in scheduling. I agree it makes you better.
10-24-2018, 04:17 AM
I donât understand the metrics they use. Are they saying BCs and Lex cath schedule was tougher? Hahah
10-24-2018, 05:08 AM
Hound05 Wrote:I donât understand the metrics they use. Are they saying BCs and Lex cath schedule was tougher? HahahYes, that is exactly what they are saying.
Lex Cath has played 8 good teams, 3 really good teams.
Boyle has played 7 good teams, 1 really good.
Corbin has played 5 good teams, 1 really good.
10-24-2018, 05:16 AM
Iâd say beechwood and mayfield are both really good. Boyle has played Ballard, and lex cath which I would compare to bell county.
10-24-2018, 05:20 AM
Hound05 Wrote:Iâd say beechwood and mayfield are both really good. Boyle has played Ballard, and lex cath which I would compare to bell county.You are correct I missed counting Mayfield.
6 good teams, 2 really good.
10-24-2018, 05:27 AM
The worst team on Boyles schedule is 8267.
Corbin has played 9326, 12939, 13472. That deflates Corbins numbers on the average. Thats why I like to break down the good teams on the schedule like I did above. Corbins good/really good games may indeed be tougher.
Corbin has played 9326, 12939, 13472. That deflates Corbins numbers on the average. Thats why I like to break down the good teams on the schedule like I did above. Corbins good/really good games may indeed be tougher.
10-24-2018, 05:42 AM
Belfrys district games kills them in these kinds of ranking. Take just our non district games, and we look a little better. But that's why we schedule pretty good non district foes. Theres no way our district would prepare us for the playoffs. And I'm not trying to throw off on PCC, Floyd, Lawrence, and Sheldon Clark. It is what it is. I wish our district was more competitive. Fact of the matter is, it's one of the weakest in the state.
10-24-2018, 05:59 AM
Iam4thecats Wrote:The worst team on Boyles schedule is 8267.
Corbin has played 9326, 12939, 13472. That deflates Corbins numbers on the average. Thats why I like to break down the good teams on the schedule like I did above. Corbins good/really good games may indeed be tougher.
Oh Iâm with ya on that. Our district games bring us way down. But I tbink our tough games were def stronger and overall probably a tougher schedule just looking at it because of it.
10-24-2018, 06:04 AM
#55PirateFan Wrote:Belfrys district games kills them in these kinds of ranking. Take just our non district games, and we look a little better. But that's why we schedule pretty good non district foes. Theres no way our district would prepare us for the playoffs. And I'm not trying to throw off on PCC, Floyd, Lawrence, and Sheldon Clark. It is what it is. I wish our district was more competitive. Fact of the matter is, it's one of the weakest in the state.Belfry schedules about like Corbin does. Thatâs the only way to get better. No offense to any of the districts teams. But even with our horrible district overall I donât see Boyleâs schedule being tougher. Weâve played the same Danville team. With almost exact results. We played Pulaski and they played Wayne county. Pulaski just best southwestern last week. Their matchup against Lex cath is very comparable to ours against bell. Western hills is probably better than Casey county. I donât know. But I think our matchup against beechwood and mayfield top the rest of the their schedule. Iâd like to know what metrics they used to determine this. I donât care either way. SOS donât come with a trophy but itâs got me a little confused I guess. Iâm not a big fan of CalPreps anyways. A lot of their projected matchups are way off the actual results. Even at the disclaimer at the bottom it said if you took the home team and with better record youâd be right over 60% of the time haha
10-24-2018, 03:46 PM
Hound05 Wrote:Belfry schedules about like Corbin does. Thatâs the only way to get better. No offense to any of the districts teams. But even with our horrible district overall I donât see Boyleâs schedule being tougher. Weâve played the same Danville team. With almost exact results. We played Pulaski and they played Wayne county. Pulaski just best southwestern last week. Their matchup against Lex cath is very comparable to ours against bell. Western hills is probably better than Casey county. I donât know. But I think our matchup against beechwood and mayfield top the rest of the their schedule. Iâd like to know what metrics they used to determine this. I donât care either way. SOS donât come with a trophy but itâs got me a little confused I guess. Iâm not a big fan of CalPreps anyways. A lot of their projected matchups are way off the actual results. Even at the disclaimer at the bottom it said if you took the home team and with better record youâd be right over 60% of the time haha
This year is even worse than last. LC got better, but still not a threat to Belfry. The other teams in the district weren't even competitive with LC this season. Belfry was head and shoulders number 1, but it seems to me that LC was closer to competing with Belfry than PCC, FC, and SC were to competing with LC. That says a lot about how weak our district is. The dropoff from 1-2 is big, but the dropoff from 2-3 is even bigger IMO
10-24-2018, 04:22 PM
Wildcat45 Wrote:This year is even worse than last. LC got better, but still not a threat to Belfry. The other teams in the district weren't even competitive with LC this season. Belfry was head and shoulders number 1, but it seems to me that LC was closer to competing with Belfry than PCC, FC, and SC were to competing with LC. That says a lot about how weak our district is. The dropoff from 1-2 is big, but the dropoff from 2-3 is even bigger IMO
Western Hills is going to beat Lawrence Co. IMO there is no way they'll contain WanDale. D4 will go 3-1 and I'm anxious to see how well Garrard Co does vs Belfry.
10-24-2018, 04:42 PM
Iâve watched got to see most of these teams mentioned in person this year. To the person above Western Hills would beat Casey 4 or 5 touchdowns and also beat Bell County badly. The team thatâs a dark horse to me in the playoffs is Lexington Catholic, definitely the toughest schedule,and people forget Catholic has 3-D1 lineman upfront offered and D1 quarterback,they have players. The 6â7 Def end Vaughn is special for Catholic. Belfry will get all they want from Catholic and wouldnât be surprised if Catholic won that game.
10-24-2018, 04:45 PM
By the way, donât say it,Iâm not a Catholic or Boyle fan so you know. Just my opinion whenâs means very little.
10-24-2018, 05:44 PM
Football Scout Wrote:Iâve watched got to see most of these teams mentioned in person this year. To the person above Western Hills would beat Casey 4 or 5 touchdowns and also beat Bell County badly. The team thatâs a dark horse to me in the playoffs is Lexington Catholic, definitely the toughest schedule,and people forget Catholic has 3-D1 lineman upfront offered and D1 quarterback,they have players. The 6â7 Def end Vaughn is special for Catholic. Belfry will get all they want from Catholic and wouldnât be surprised if Catholic won that game.
Offensively Lexington Catholic is for real, you better have a good secondary if youâre going to play with them. Their weakness is defense if Lexington Catholic and Belfry play each other I could see it going a couple different ways a shoot out with either team winning or Belfry being able to shut down Catholicâs passing game and winning comfortably.
10-24-2018, 06:51 PM
Belfry will not shut down LexCaths offense but neither will LC slow down Belfry rushing attack.
Crap shoot as to who wins. Neither would surprise me.
Crap shoot as to who wins. Neither would surprise me.
10-24-2018, 07:17 PM
IMO , having seen both teams, Belfry wins comfortably vs LC. Overall, I think Belfry and Central are much better than what some may want to believe. Boyle and Corbin are very good as well, but in the end 3A is loaded in the top 4 spots
10-24-2018, 07:33 PM
FoSho Wrote:Belfry will not shut down LexCaths offense but neither will LC slow down Belfry rushing attack.
Crap shoot as to who wins. Neither would surprise me.
I have to agree, Lexington Catholic has played against some good teams this year Highlands, Desales, and Boyle County and Boyle is the only team that shut their passing game down other than Boyle they have scored well on every team theyâve played their offense is really good.
10-24-2018, 11:33 PM
People are underestimating belfry. Thatâs the way they want it. But dang it Iâm trying to get them noticed!!!! Haha
10-25-2018, 12:07 AM
Hound05 Wrote:People are underestimating belfry. Thatâs the way they want it. But dang it Iâm trying to get them noticed!!!! Haha
You may be right, honestly I think the game could go two ways if Belfry cannot cover Catholicâs receivers then I see a shootout, if Belfry can shut the passing game down then Belfry wins comfortably.
10-25-2018, 12:53 AM
Jack Lambert Wrote:You may be right, honestly I think the game could go two ways if Belfry cannot cover Catholicâs receivers then I see a shootout, if Belfry can shut the passing game down then Belfry wins comfortably.
Iâd say a lot of teams will try to replicate what BC did. Stop the pass and give them the run. Belfry has a lot of speed and are very physical. I think belfry will put a lot of pressure on them causing some TOâs. I could be wrong, itâs just my guess on how theyâll play it.
10-25-2018, 01:19 AM
Hound05 Wrote:Iâd say a lot of teams will try to replicate what BC did. Stop the pass and give them the run. Belfry has a lot of speed and are very physical. I think belfry will put a lot of pressure on them causing some TOâs. I could be wrong, itâs just my guess on how theyâll play it.
As always Catholic has plenty of speed and uncharacteristicly theyâre big on both sides of line they usually donât have that much size up front but they do this year.
10-25-2018, 01:21 AM
Jack Lambert Wrote:As always Catholic has plenty of speed and uncharacteristicly theyâre big on both sides of line they usually donât have that much size up front but they do this year.
On a side note I agree with you on taking the passing game away and giving them the run but itâs easier said than done.
10-25-2018, 02:07 AM
Jack Lambert Wrote:As always Catholic has plenty of speed and uncharacteristicly theyâre big on both sides of line they usually donât have that much size up front but they do this year.
I think theyâve also got a little bit of experience of both sides of the line listening to their coach anyways. I just donât see in HS how someone like Lex cath has the personnel to run the 3-3-5 D that they do. I have a feeling belfry would just eat that up with a run game.
But yes I agree itâs easier said than done with the pass game.
10-25-2018, 02:35 AM
FoSho Wrote:Western Hills is going to beat Lawrence Co. IMO there is no way they'll contain WanDale. D4 will go 3-1 and I'm anxious to see how well Garrard Co does vs Belfry.
Lol! They'll do about as well as Floyd Central will do against you! Help any?
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