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09-23-2018, 04:22 PM
Running clock tour continues. 49-6 Big Red Machine.
09-23-2018, 04:44 PM
Belfry wins and continues to get better for a playoff run.
09-23-2018, 06:19 PM
Belfry by 36+
09-23-2018, 06:43 PM
Belfry big tuning up for real football when it really counts
09-23-2018, 07:20 PM
At least I get T Roadhouse this week... Pirates by whatever they want
09-23-2018, 07:27 PM
I want be making a prediction in this one. :popcorn:
09-23-2018, 10:42 PM
Another early exit for the starters is this one, I hope. One more game like this will give us time to get close to getting 100% healthy. Then WV 3A power Cabell Midland comes to town. Midland was leading Capitol,#1 team in the state of WV, at the half this past Friday before losing a close one. These guys are still a very good football team. As far as Floyd Central. Before their game this past Friday with PCC I thought maybe they could play with us a little. But after that, I dont see that anymore. That was a disappointing loss for the Jags.
Belfry wins 42-10
Belfry wins 42-10
09-24-2018, 12:36 AM
49-6 Belfry will make quick work of the Jags. I think we will see Mounts return from his injury this week in very limited action. I have one question with Mounts’ return, does he sure up a hole at MLB or does he return to OLB? The few times he played MLB before the injury I thought our run stop D looked solid, but he’s good at OLB as well. I also think Barker did a better job at OLB than he did at MLB in the Pikeville game as well. Barker has flashes of grearness at times especially in the Pikeville game when he would make a great read and make a hit behind the LOS but not wrap up and finish the play. Barker also would read wrong and take himself out of the play the very next play. I think Barker is better on the edge with his size and speed and his abilitiy to cover the pass. Mounts is just a tough hard nose kid who could compliment Fields better in the middle. Fields is drawing a lot of the double teams this year that Wellman drew last year. Fields really hasn’t done much to stand out this year but he has been solid. I still think our best defense is Fields and Mounts in the middle, Cook and Barker on the edge. In the middle we look our best with Rash at NG and Baisden and Goff at DTs. Goff gives up a little bit of size but he is quick and disciplined. Coleman and Browning at Safteys and Dixon and Birchfield at CBs. Hopefully we get to see this line up a little bit more down the stretch in the CM and JC game. If we get get that unit clicking we will be very hard out for any team. Our offense is solid and just needs to figure out how the combination of Hensley and Coleman will play out going forward. Hensley gives us the quick burst up the gut while Coleman is more of a bruiser back. We are getting back to being 100% healthy, and if we can stay healthy and tweak our D in spots we will be just fine! Definitely not looking forward or past any oppents, just wishful thinking.
09-24-2018, 12:44 AM
Belfry and it's not even close...…..
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09-24-2018, 02:08 AM
COACHITALL Wrote:49-6 Belfry will make quick work of the Jags. I think we will see Mounts return from his injury this week in very limited action. I have one question with Mountsâ return, does he sure up a hole at MLB or does he return to OLB? The few times he played MLB before the injury I thought our run stop D looked solid, but heâs good at OLB as well. I also think Barker did a better job at OLB than he did at MLB in the Pikeville game as well. Barker has flashes of grearness at times especially in the Pikeville game when he would make a great read and make a hit behind the LOS but not wrap up and finish the play. Barker also would read wrong and take himself out of the play the very next play. I think Barker is better on the edge with his size and speed and his abilitiy to cover the pass. Mounts is just a tough hard nose kid who could compliment Fields better in the middle. Fields is drawing a lot of the double teams this year that Wellman drew last year. Fields really hasnât done much to stand out this year but he has been solid. I still think our best defense is Fields and Mounts in the middle, Cook and Barker on the edge. In the middle we look our best with Rash at NG and Baisden and Goff at DTs. Goff gives up a little bit of size but he is quick and disciplined. Coleman and Browning at Safteys and Dixon and Birchfield at CBs. Hopefully we get to see this line up a little bit more down the stretch in the CM and JC game. If we get get that unit clicking we will be very hard out for any team. Our offense is solid and just needs to figure out how the combination of Hensley and Coleman will play out going forward. Hensley gives us the quick burst up the gut while Coleman is more of a bruiser back. We are getting back to being 100% healthy, and if we can stay healthy and tweak our D in spots we will be just fine! Definitely not looking forward or past any oppents, just wishful thinking.
Appreciate the post.....but quite honestly....NO Defensive Line Combination has looked good for the Pirates. Thatâs not a knock on the kids. Theyâre all doing the best they can. Goff, Washington and Baisden have all had their moments. However.....simply put.....We are too small. Baisden is the only one with any size....and teams are taking advantage it. Would love to see Lawson get into the mix.
09-24-2018, 02:25 AM
OutlawJoseyWales Wrote:Appreciate the post.....but quite honestly....NO Defensive Line Combination has looked good for the Pirates. Thatâs not a knock on the kids. Theyâre all doing the best they can. Goff, Washington and Baisden have all had their moments. However.....simply put.....We are too small. Baisden is the only one with any size....and teams are taking advantage it. Would love to see Lawson get into the mix.I agree OJW we do need size on the DL but if we donât start getting these boys reps in practice or in games starting now, it wonât happen!
09-24-2018, 03:15 AM
COACHITALL Wrote:I agree OJW we do need size on the DL but if we donât start getting these boys reps in practice or in games starting now, it wonât happen!
Agreed
09-24-2018, 05:14 AM
Belfry 49-6
09-25-2018, 05:38 AM
Belfry-54
Floyd county central-6
Running clock ⏰
Floyd county central-6
Running clock ⏰
09-25-2018, 05:56 AM
We've got one of the best defensive tackles in the mountains playing Center. OutlawJosieWales, remember him playing that position a couple years ago against Taylor County when they had that manchild at fullback? He was killing people up the middle until they ran up against us. Alot of sweeps and tosses after those first couple unsuccessful trys up the gut, Lol! Thats what Wolford was picked to play in the East/West All Star game but ended up playing Center in the end. But Coach won't let him play both ways for some reason, worried about getting him injured I guess. That's probably why he's the Coach and I'm just a big mouth dad. I can afford to make those calls from the couch, he can't! Lol
09-25-2018, 06:19 AM
#55PirateFan Wrote:We've got one of the best defensive tackles in the mountains playing Center. OutlawJosieWales, remember him playing that position a couple years ago against Taylor County when they had that manchild at fullback? He was killing people up the middle until they ran up against us. Alot of sweeps and tosses after those first couple unsuccessful trys up the gut, Lol! Thats what Wolford was picked to play in the East/West All Star game but ended up playing Center in the end. But Coach won't let him play both ways for some reason, worried about getting him injured I guess. That's probably why he's the Coach and I'm just a big mouth dad. I can afford to make those calls from the couch, he can't! Lol
I remember well. They had a legitimate manchild running the ball....but .....the Belfry defense, led by too many to name had no problem in shutting them down. Back to the current issue at hand. Itâs a definite head scratcher as to why we donât see at least a few of these kids go both ways along the d-line. Make no mistake....Belfry runs their program like a college. Specialization is paramount. But....IMO....we cannot slow down offensives like Boyle without being able to stuff the run and pressure the QB in passing situations. To this point, against quality teams, weâve seen very little of either
09-25-2018, 06:30 AM
OutlawJoseyWales Wrote:I remember well. They had a legitimate manchild running the ball....but .....the Belfry defense, led by too many to name had no problem in shutting them down. Back to the current issue at hand. Itâs a definite head scratcher as to why we donât see at least a few of these kids go both ways along the d-line. Make no mistake....Belfry runs their program like a college. Specialization is paramount. But....IMO....we cannot slow down offensives like Boyle without being able to stuff the run and pressure the QB in passing situations. To this point, against quality teams, weâve seen very little of either
You are absolutely correct my friend. Although we don't really need to now, I think we should be practicing it a little every week, playing those "Big Hogs" on the O-Line both ways just to prepare and get ready for the Corbins and Boyles in the playoffs, assuming we make it to those games. That's when we'll need them. I've said all along, we've got a couple of big backup offensive linemen on the sideline that should be playing on that D-Line instead on waiting to get reps on the O-Line. And #74 is one of them. The kid is massive! Why not put him in there beside of Baisden and see what happens?
09-25-2018, 02:53 PM
Belfry 49-6
09-25-2018, 05:07 PM
#55PirateFan Wrote:You are absolutely correct my friend. Although we don't really need to now, I think we should be practicing it a little every week, playing those "Big Hogs" on the O-Line both ways just to prepare and get ready for the Corbins and Boyles in the playoffs, assuming we make it to those games. That's when we'll need them. I've said all along, we've got a couple of big backup offensive linemen on the sideline that should be playing on that D-Line instead on waiting to get reps on the O-Line. And #74 is one of them. The kid is massive! Why not put him in there beside of Baisden and see what happens?
Sounds like a lot of digs coming at the dl for Belfry. Can't believe Belfry fans starting to question Haywood? How many td's has Belfry got between the tackles this year versus backs hitting the corner and just out sprinting the defense? That's a serious question. Also, how many games did Belfry drop 7-8 in coverage and left 3 dl trying to put pressure and fill the gaps on the run?
09-25-2018, 05:29 PM
EastKyPride Wrote:Sounds like a lot of digs coming at the dl for Belfry. Can't believe Belfry fans starting to question Haywood? How many td's has Belfry got between the tackles this year versus backs hitting the corner and just out sprinting the defense? That's a serious question. Also, how many games did Belfry drop 7-8 in coverage and left 3 dl trying to put pressure and fill the gaps on the run?
It’s not necessarily questioning Haywood, it’s more just the realization that the big bodies are not on the defensive side of the ball. On the O side, Belfry’s sweep game has been basically unstoppable and the two HBs are really good. FB hasn’t been used as much because of injuries, but when Coleman has carried the ball he had done a great job. In certain situations Belfry has a bigger group that can come in, but what do you lose on the O side by playing kids both ways....
09-25-2018, 05:38 PM
Only thing I can see is more subject to injury, not getting that extra push in the fourth quarter where Belfry typically has the opponents defense tired out and usually starts hitting them with big plays. But if they are conditioned enough to go both ways then wouldn't hurt to try it.
09-25-2018, 05:44 PM
I agree I think you experiment with some more big bodies...they did with Lawson and Rash some last year.
09-25-2018, 05:56 PM
EastKyPride Wrote:Sounds like a lot of digs coming at the dl for Belfry. Can't believe Belfry fans starting to question Haywood? How many td's has Belfry got between the tackles this year versus backs hitting the corner and just out sprinting the defense? That's a serious question. Also, how many games did Belfry drop 7-8 in coverage and left 3 dl trying to put pressure and fill the gaps on the run?
If you know anything about Belfry Football....then you know that Haywood's Defense has historically taken great pride in shutting down the run game....and play bend but not break defense against the pass. Using a mixture of size and speed on the DL has served the Pirates well. While at times we've seen the Belfry Defense struggle in some years....since 2003.... More times than not that's been a successful recipe.
If you just base your judgement on scores....then there isn't much to disagree with. But....if you look a little closer....you begin to see real issues. In the PCB....Huntington was hell bent on trying to establish their passing game...that it actually kept Belfry in it. But....in the 4th qtr, when the game suddenly was in doubt, Huntington lined up, nose to nose and drove it right down the field, with a long sustained drive....on the GROUND. While Belfry held them to a FG....that was also in part, penalty aided.
Against Pikeville.....Belfry gave up over 400 yards in total offense, most of which came from the run game. Now granted, as I've watched the tape, I think and argument can be made that Haywood played it safe...and once we got up, he allowed Pikeville to run the ball, eat up clock....because Belfry did fairly well against the short passing game.
In watching the game film, its painfully evident that the Belfry DL is simply not large enough to control the LOS against good teams. Against average teams, our speed and technique far out weighs the opposition's abilities. But, against quality teams, the lack of size doesn't serve us well. Huntington was driving us 3-5 yrds off the ball. Pikeville was opening holes between the tackles in the run game. When that occurs, that makes it even more difficult on the LB's, because flow lanes are clogged. I'm afraid, and I know that others are as well, that once the playoffs begin, and the competition really spikes, that we're gonna find ourselves in a spot, much like last year against Central.
I think Haywood is a great coach. Fine man. Personally, I just wish we would at least entertain the idea of playing a few of our kids both ways. there are at least 6-7 Offensive lineman that have big frames that can eat up some space and provide some strength to the DLine on occasion. I'm not suggesting they play both ways the entire game. But, there is enough depth that a rotation should be possible
09-25-2018, 06:21 PM
Belfry by whatever amount of punishment Haywood chooses to inflict upon the Jags
09-25-2018, 07:24 PM
But hasn't he brought some of those OL in various plays on defense and personally didn't see much change when they was brought in. I may be wrong and since you watch the game film you can fill us all in on that? Just see a lot on fb and on here dogging the dl and wanting some ol brought over when he has?
09-25-2018, 10:24 PM
EastKyPride Wrote:But hasn't he brought some of those OL in various plays on defense and personally didn't see much change when they was brought in. I may be wrong and since you watch the game film you can fill us all in on that? Just see a lot on fb and on here dogging the dl and wanting some ol brought over when he has?
U can decide for yourself .......everyone has a position on it.
09-26-2018, 02:38 AM
EastKyPride Wrote:Sounds like a lot of digs coming at the dl for Belfry. Can't believe Belfry fans starting to question Haywood? How many td's has Belfry got between the tackles this year versus backs hitting the corner and just out sprinting the defense? That's a serious question. Also, how many games did Belfry drop 7-8 in coverage and left 3 dl trying to put pressure and fill the gaps on the run?
Nobodys "digging" anybody, just stating the obvious! And the only reason theres more TD's on the edges than up the middle is because of play selection. Trust me, TD's all day up the middle if they need them. As far as questioning Heywood, nobodys is questioning anything just giving my opinion. Besides, Heywood is a great coach but he ain't God! He ain't perfect! Chill out.
09-26-2018, 04:53 AM
Sounds like you need to chill my man. OL is good but no where near what Belfry is use to. As far as running the Middle I have seen enough this year that it’s not all night long. Your boys are good but they ain’t great! Don’t get your panties in a bunch bc someone asked a few questions! Typical Belfry fan!
09-26-2018, 05:11 AM
Belfry by 45+
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