[TheRealThing]

The rumor mill is all aswirl with speculation that Paul Ryan intends to run for President in 2020. He quit the Speakership on this past April 12th, yet he's not leaving as Speaker until January of 2019. Makes you go hmmmm, doesn't it? Obviously he wants to stay on as Speaker to remain relevant and possibly shake his head in mock indignation when the leftist press tosses him a set-up question about the President. Thus in staying his departure until January, he could possibly blame any midterm losses caused by his amnesty deal for DACA recipients, and he'll need a few months to put his campaign together so he can announce in June. He won't get my vote.

Meanwhile 15 months into the Trump Presidency, with the country enduring the embarrassment of the resistance and never ending investigations, which are nothing more than tax payer funded searches for something to investigate BTW, and Speaker Ryan, has yet to 'speak' the first word of anything resembling a defense for his boss and our President. To me Paul Ryan is a snake and needs to go now. He intends to raise the retirement age to 70. and reduce benefits for seniors. Meanwhile, there has been no mention of any reductions in benefits for the 3.5 million DACA recipients he intends to hand a free pass.

[Granny Bear]

Paul Ryan is dangerous, IMO.

He is quite skilled at twisting facts and manipulating the truth to fit his agenda.

I agree....he just needs to go.

[Hoot Gibson]

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Interesting

However, possible obstruction of justice by the President is worth investigating. Paying hush money to squelch a salacious story in the midst of a campaign is worth investigating. High level meetings between top campaign staffers and Russians is worth investigating. Possible financial ties to Russian moguls close to Putin is worth investigating. The tweeting don puts down plenty of track for investigative trains to run on. You folks keep on wiping your hands screaming “done, done.”

We’ll see.

Do you think it would be worthwhile investigating the Clinton gang and Obama for obstruction of justice as well? There is far more evidence of criminal behavior within the former president's administration than there is in the current one. Are former presidents and former Secretaries of State and former IRS executives and former Attorneys General above the law in your opinion? Where is your outrage at the criminal behavior that oozed through the Obama administration?

[TheRealThing]

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Interesting

However, possible obstruction of justice by the President is worth investigating. Paying hush money to squelch a salacious story in the midst of a campaign is worth investigating. High level meetings between top campaign staffers and Russians is worth investigating. Possible financial ties to Russian moguls close to Putin is worth investigating. The tweeting don puts down plenty of track for investigative trains to run on. You folks keep on wiping your hands screaming “done, done.”

We’ll see.

We'll see what? More of your lies?

[Bob Seger]

Paul Ryan wouldn’t even win his own district in Wisconsin against Donald Trump.

[The Urban Sombrero]

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Thank you for your series of questions, Hoot.

Who held the chairmanships of all relevant committees while Obama and Clinton were President and Secretary of State? It seems to me that both Clintons have been investigated ad nauseum. If you are asking me if President Obama obstructed justice, I think not. I have said numerous times that the Clintons seem to believe that rules apply to other people.

Still, the tweeting don...his OWN WORDS.

[Granny Bear]

Sombrero, please stay on thread topic which is Paul Ryan.

I know you were answering some of Hoot's questions but surely you are smart enough to know that he was doing a comparison.

[TheRealThing]

Sombrero, please stay on thread topic which is Paul Ryan.

I know you were answering some of Hoot's questions but surely you are smart enough to know that he was doing a comparison.

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[Hoot Gibson]

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Thank you for your series of questions, Hoot.

Who held the chairmanships of all relevant committees while Obama and Clinton were President and Secretary of State? It seems to me that both Clintons have been investigated ad nauseum. If you are asking me if President Obama obstructed justice, I think not. I have said numerous times that the Clintons seem to believe that rules apply to other people.

Still, the tweeting don...his OWN WORDS.

:lmao: That was just the response that I expected from you, Mr. Selective Outrage. There is definitely a strong Trump bias among most of those active in this forum, but that bias pales in comparison to your anti-Trump, pro-Clinton, pro-Obama, pro-every other crooked Democrat politician bias who has ever walked the earth. Among the many left wing political hacks who have ever posted in this forum, you are without peer.

At least Trump has done something to earn some political support among fair minded people. Using private email to conduct shady government business to avoid the scrutiny of FOIA requests and Congressional subpoenas was the rule, not the exception during the 8 years that proceeded Trump's swearing in. What a tool you are!

[vector]

The rumor mill is all aswirl with speculation that Paul Ryan intends to run for President in 2020. He quit the Speakership on this past April 12th, yet he's not leaving as Speaker until January of 2019. Makes you go hmmmm, doesn't it? Obviously he wants to stay on as Speaker to remain relevant and possibly shake his head in mock indignation when the leftist press tosses him a set-up question about the President. Thus in staying his departure until January, he could possibly blame any midterm losses caused by his amnesty deal for DACA recipients, and he'll need a few months to put his campaign together so he can announce in June. He won't get my vote.

Meanwhile 15 months into the Trump Presidency, with the country enduring the embarrassment of the resistance and never ending investigations, which are nothing more than tax payer funded searches for something to investigate BTW, and Speaker Ryan, has yet to 'speak' the first word of anything resembling a defense for his boss and our President. To me Paul Ryan is a snake and needs to go now. He intends to raise the retirement age to 70. and reduce benefits for seniors. Meanwhile, there has been no mention of any reductions in benefits for the 3.5 million DACA recipients he intends to hand a free pass.

Ryan reminds me a lot of your hero Reagan

[Granny Bear]

Oh please share those similarities with us.

[TheRealThing]

Oh please share those similarities with us.

:hilarious:

[The Urban Sombrero]

As near as I can tell:

• Ryan believes in due process as an established Constitutional principle. So did Reagan.

• Ryan views Canada as strong ally. So did Reagan.

• Ryan does not count Russian aggression and throttling freedom of the press as no big deal. Neither did Reagan.

• Ryan believes in a certain decorum and class attached to political debate. So did Reagan.

That’s a few.

[TheRealThing]

As near as I can tell:

• Ryan believes in due process as an established Constitutional principle. So did Reagan.

• Ryan views Canada as strong ally. So did Reagan.

• Ryan does not count Russian aggression and throttling freedom of the press as no big deal. Neither did Reagan.

• Ryan believes in a certain decorum and class attached to political debate. So did Reagan.

That’s a few.

That's a few typical liberal revisionist slanders against Reagan. But being so desperate for an ally, any ally, must be quite a burden.


- Ryan wouldn't know due process if it hit him in the head

- Canadian relations are fine

- You no doubt missed it, but Reagan's policies brought down the USSR. Further I challenge you to cite anything which supports your contention that Reagan was in any way concerned that Russia was a threat to the US press corps. And let (the rest of us) not overlook the fact that Russia was on it's ear until Obama US foreign policy of appeasement became the chief enabling agent of Putin's resurgence.

- I'll take straight up honesty and transparency over Ryan's soap opera decorum and class any day of the week and twice on Sunday.

[Bob Seger]

As near as I can tell:

• Ryan believes in due process as an established Constitutional principle. So did Reagan.

• Ryan views Canada as strong ally. So did Reagan.

• Ryan does not count Russian aggression and throttling freedom of the press as no big deal. Neither did Reagan.

• Ryan believes in a certain decorum and class attached to political debate. So did Reagan.

That’s a few.

I think that question was directed at vector...You know, the guy who cant even spell cat.

[vector]

Oh please share those similarities with us.

First since TRT said Ryan wants to raise the retirement age for social security
who was the last president to actualy raise the age for retirement under social security
Reagan i believe 1983
Who was the last president to raise taxes on social security and medicare
while cutting taxes for the rich
Reagan after he seen that his tax cuts would blow the deficet up so he
created a big trust fund so he could borrow from it
And let's not forget who was the president who also TAXED your social security benefits
AGAIN RONALD REAGAN
And by the way the only reason Reagan won the cold war was Russia runned out of money

[TheRealThing]

First since TRT said Ryan wants to raise the retirement age for social security
who was the last president to actualy raise the age for retirement under social security
Reagan i believe 1983
Who was the last president to raise taxes on social security and medicare
while cutting taxes for the rich
Reagan after he seen that his tax cuts would blow the deficet up so he
created a big trust fund so he could borrow from it
And let's not forget who was the president who also TAXED your social security benefits
AGAIN RONALD REAGAN
And by the way the only reason Reagan won the cold war was Russia runned out of money

Pm's are a wonderful thing, wouldn't you say there vector? Want to elaborate on any of the details on this stuff, or would going back and forth between me and your ghost writer be too confusing for you to keep things at all straight?

Reagan was President, but the Democrat dominated Congress was in stiff opposition with him as to how government was to go about extending the social security fund's looming insolvency issue. Tip O'Neil swung the hammer at that time, and he appointed a number of Democrats to form a committee to which Reagan appointed Alan Greenspan. They did work out an agreement.

Things worked out pretty well for the country as the result of cooperation between the two parties on the matter. But the point I made, and in his having missed it is why I know you're Sombrero's home boy, Illegals under Ryan will go right on getting all the free goodies they need. While the people paying the bill for it all, will wind up seeing their retirement date extended three years so they can continue paying the money Uncle Sugar needs to hand to the illegals. It's a vote buying scheme to keep the palms of the Democrat voting base greased up. Reagan would never have back doored the voter like that.

[The Urban Sombrero]

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Here’s the deal: Granny, you have my permission to open my PM and look for any message from Vector. You’ll find none. Zero. Nada. As for “home boys,” it’s the tweeting don, secret society like, mafia like, who values loyalty over principle and ethics.

As to political temperament, Ryan is much closer to Reagan thanTrump. As to foreign policy, I’d say the clear “nearer to Reagan” goes to Ryan. As to international trade and markets, I’d suggest the “nearer to Reagan” goes to Ryan.

[TheRealThing]

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Here’s the deal: Granny, you have my permission to open my PM and look for any message from Vector. You’ll find none. Zero. Nada. As for “home boys,” it’s the tweeting don, secret society like, mafia like, [B]who values loyalty over principle and ethics[/B].

Right. One could find no defense of the indefensible in any of your posts. :Thumbs:

[Bob Seger]

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Here’s the deal: Granny, you have my permission to open my PM and look for any message from Vector. You’ll find none. Zero. Nada. As for “home boys,” it’s the tweeting don, secret society like, mafia like, who values loyalty over principle and ethics.

As to political temperament, Ryan is much closer to Reagan thanTrump. As to foreign policy, I’d say the clear “nearer to Reagan” goes to Ryan. As to international trade and markets, I’d suggest the “nearer to Reagan” goes to Ryan.

lol, Now isn't that rich!! Gee, Granny Blac Chris is giving you his PERMISSION!!

:lmao:

[The Urban Sombrero]

lol, Now isn't that rich!! Gee, Granny Blac Chris is giving you his PERMISSION!!

:lmao:

Speaking of “Blac Chris,” you “tired, tired, tired” of that cap?

[The Urban Sombrero]

Right. One could find no defense of the indefensible in any of your posts. :Thumbs:

Peacockian blather, per usual.

[vector]

Right. One could find no defense of the indefensible in any of your posts. :Thumbs:

You are a member of Mar a Lago
But anyway thanks for admitting Reagan was the last president to raise the retirement age and payroll taxes and let's not forget about taxing your social security benefits
But I will give credit to Reagan at least he never called them entitlements or wanting to privatize them like the Republicans are doing now

[Bob Seger]

Speaking of “Blac Chris,” you “tired, tired, tired” of that cap?

Only if you are tired of the "peacockian, cap, echo chamber, yada, yada, yada," and other various Chris Cuomo words of the week.

Besides, it's still stuck up your hind end.

[TheRealThing]

You are a member of Mar a Lago
But anyway thanks for admitting Reagan was the last president to raise the retirement age and payroll taxes and let's not forget about taxing your social security benefits
But I will give credit to Reagan at least he never called them entitlements or wanting to privatize them like the Republicans are doing now

What a bozo. Social Security benefits are THE quintessential example of entitlements. People who work and pay into social security are entitled then to collect benefits when the become of age. :hilarious:

But yeah, count me in on Mar A Largo

[The Urban Sombrero]

Only if you are tired of the "peacockian, cap, echo chamber, yada, yada, yada," and other various Chris Cuomo words of the week.

Besides, it's still stuck up your hind end.

Hey, speaking of “hind end,” eh, never mind.

[Granny Bear]

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Here’s the deal: Granny, you have my permission to open my PM and look for any message from Vector. You’ll find none. Zero. Nada. As for “home boys,” it’s the tweeting don, secret society like, mafia like, who values loyalty over principle and ethics.

As to political temperament, Ryan is much closer to Reagan thanTrump. As to foreign policy, I’d say the clear “nearer to Reagan” goes to Ryan. As to international trade and markets, I’d suggest the “nearer to Reagan” goes to Ryan.

I neither need or want you permission to do anything.

[vector]

What a bozo. Social Security benefits are THE quintessential example of entitlements. People who work and pay into social security are entitled then to collect benefits when the become of age. :hilarious:

But yeah, count me in on Mar A Largo

So you are saying another good example would be if you meet all the qualifications for Medicaid,food stamps or ssi then you are entitled to them ?
I think social security should be called an investment not an entitlement

And thanks again for admitting based on your spin that your hero Reagan was the last president to raise the retirement age and the payroll taxes and also taxed your social security benefits

[TheRealThing]

So you are saying another good example would be if you meet all the qualifications for Medicaid,food stamps or ssi then you are entitled to them ?
I think social security should be called an investment not an entitlement

And thanks again for admitting based on your spin that your hero Reagan was the last president to raise the retirement age and the payroll taxes and also taxed your social security benefits

See this is why you need to lay low. What I gave you was the definition of entitlements. People who qualify for Medicaid and food stamps are on welfare. SSI is a benefit for dependents of those who have been self sufficient and contributing citizens of this land. In other words like Social Security is based on contributions, so are SSI benefits. Big difference and one which I find to be of tremendous insult and disservice to every working American when a viable work ethic qualifies one for entitlements such as SS. They earned that. Welfare recipients are freeloaders on the system.

[vector]

See this is why you need to lay low. What I gave you was the definition of entitlements. People who qualify for Medicaid and food stamps are on welfare. SSI is a benefit for dependents of those who have been self sufficient and contributing citizens of this land. In other words like Social Security is based on contributions, so are SSI benefits. Big difference and one which I find to be of tremendous insult and disservice to every working American when a viable work ethic qualifies one for entitlements such as SS. They earned that. Welfare recipients are freeloaders on the system.

There you go again :biglmao:

And by the way did your hero Reagan raised the retirement age and the payroll taxes ?
And also did he tax your social security benefits