[mantax]

I’m skeptical that playing kids both ways drastically improves the recent results.

I can tell you for a fact that they would not have lost to South Oldham last year in the playoffs and may well have defeated Pulaski County in 2015 playoffs.

[The Truth Sayer]

I can tell you for a fact that they would not have lost to South Oldham last year in the playoffs and may well have defeated Pulaski County in 2015 playoffs.

Been saying this for 3+ years. Cov Cath realized this with the new coach. Play your best both ways, spell them when they need a breather and let them be football players..........not pawns in the philosophy of a coach. If the talent level was that of a Moeller, St. X, Trinity, Elder, etc.....where you literally have hundreds of boys capable of filling holes and still win.......then all for it. Unfortunately, this hasn't been the case in the past 3-4 years.
Coach to the talent level you have, coach to the skills you have in your players, adapt and find a way!
It is somewhat easy to be successful coaching talent.......coaches are built/judged when they have to coach up less talented kids and still be successful.
Cov Cath is a perfect example how Eddie has realized his capabilities and limitations.
Play your best athletes/players.........isn't that the way it use to be back in the day?

[mantax]

Been saying this for 3+ years. Cov Cath realized this with the new coach. Play your best both ways, spell them when they need a breather and let them be football players..........not pawns in the philosophy of a coach. If the talent level was that of a Moeller, St. X, Trinity, Elder, etc.....where you literally have hundreds of boys capable of filling holes and still win.......then all for it. Unfortunately, this hasn't been the case in the past 3-4 years.
Coach to the talent level you have, coach to the skills you have in your players, adapt and find a way!
It is somewhat easy to be successful coaching talent.......coaches are built/judged when they have to coach up less talented kids and still be successful.
Cov Cath is a perfect example how Eddie has realized his capabilities and limitations.
Play your best athletes/players.........isn't that the way it use to be back in the day?

Very well said and I cannot agree with you more. I have used these same type statements to people who think Dale Mueller was a "great" football coach. Dale was a very good motivator and got the kids in the program to buy into his philosophy and lets be honest, he had a wealth of talent. Sure he adjusted his approach each year based upon the players that he had, but I can honestly say if in a tight game and it came down to X's and O's he was like any other coach.

The current coach and staff have continually refused to put their team in a position to win. Last year as South Oldham was driving for the winning score, Senior Michael Dunn and Junior Trent Johnson are standing on the sidelines watching their season end because coaches REFUSED to make a change in an attempt to win a game. Beau Hoge hid a lot of things when he was the QB because of his high football IQ. The last 3 years the coaching staff has been exposed a bit as they have not been able to coach them up as you say.

[The Truth Sayer]

Very well said and I cannot agree with you more. I have used these same type statements to people who think Dale Mueller was a "great" football coach. Dale was a very good motivator and got the kids in the program to buy into his philosophy and lets be honest, he had a wealth of talent. Sure he adjusted his approach each year based upon the players that he had, but I can honestly say if in a tight game and it came down to X's and O's he was like any other coach.

The current coach and staff have continually refused to put their team in a position to win. Last year as South Oldham was driving for the winning score, Senior Michael Dunn and Junior Trent Johnson are standing on the sidelines watching their season end because coaches REFUSED to make a change in an attempt to win a game. Beau Hoge hid a lot of things when he was the QB because of his high football IQ. The last 3 years the coaching staff has been exposed a bit as they have not been able to coach them up as you say.

My friend.......bells are ringing.....a ray of light is shining through.....and an epiphany has just happened. I am not sure what camp you are in, but I would assume you are a friendly. I have been saying this for years and was just "laughed at" by people that don't know a football from a baseball bat. The Ft. Thomas "greater than now" have always acted like he is the second coming.
Maybe I am wrong. Maybe understanding the game and being able to make adjustments at half time, make play calls based on the situation is NOT the right answer.
He was obviously very successful and a super human being, but MY LORD! I have watched many of games with my chin on the ground at some of the play call, personnel, decisions being made and lack of adjustments during the game. The Highlands Way philosophy was great when the talent level was there, but even when there is talent a good coach will pickup on things and motivate their team to compete and win.
I stated years ago that if a team were to play Highlands, put their DB's 20 yards off the ball, contain the QB on the edges and they would beat Highlands because his philosophy was "run receivers in and out, throw the ball deep, wear them out and eventually they would win by being in better shape".
Collins did exactly that in Dale's last game. Probably one of the most talented teams during his run, but Collin's coaches realized what Highlands weakness was and game planned around it.
Not bashing, just stating my opinion.
BTW, THANK YOU! Finally someone who see's it for what it is and calls a spade a spade.

[Iam4thecats]

As far as Cov Cath last year the QB and RB didn't play defense, what about the 5 OL?

[The Truth Sayer]

As far as Cov Cath last year the QB and RB didn't play defense, what about the 5 OL?

Here we go. Didn't say every kid needed to play both ways. Typical response. Out.
Good Luck to the Colonels, Highlands and everyone.

[Woodsman]

Playing athletes both ways would certainly help....but I didn’t see enough impact players on either side to say that the results would have been that much different in the last 2 seasons. Maybe a coaching change is needed. Maybe it would help....the question is, how much? I’m still skeptical.

[mantax]

Playing athletes both ways would certainly help....but I didn’t see enough impact players on either side to say that the results would have been that much different in the last 2 seasons. Maybe a coaching change is needed. Maybe it would help....the question is, how much? I’m still skeptical.

I am not too sure on two years ago and honestly do not think that they would have beaten CovCath last year no matter what, but they would not have been 6-6 and going home in the round of the playoffs that they did. We are not talking about State Championships here per se, but being more competitive or WINNING games that you were more than capable of winning had some adjustments been made along the course of the game.

[mantax]

My friend.......bells are ringing.....a ray of light is shining through.....and an epiphany has just happened. I am not sure what camp you are in, but I would assume you are a friendly. I have been saying this for years and was just "laughed at" by people that don't know a football from a baseball bat. The Ft. Thomas "greater than now" have always acted like he is the second coming.
Maybe I am wrong. Maybe understanding the game and being able to make adjustments at half time, make play calls based on the situation is NOT the right answer.
He was obviously very successful and a super human being, but MY LORD! I have watched many of games with my chin on the ground at some of the play call, personnel, decisions being made and lack of adjustments during the game. The Highlands Way philosophy was great when the talent level was there, but even when there is talent a good coach will pickup on things and motivate their team to compete and win.
I stated years ago that if a team were to play Highlands, put their DB's 20 yards off the ball, contain the QB on the edges and they would beat Highlands because his philosophy was "run receivers in and out, throw the ball deep, wear them out and eventually they would win by being in better shape".
Collins did exactly that in Dale's last game. Probably one of the most talented teams during his run, but Collin's coaches realized what Highlands weakness was and game planned around it.
Not bashing, just stating my opinion.
BTW, THANK YOU! Finally someone who see's it for what it is and calls a spade a spade.

Yeah, had no business losing that game against Collins. Alex Shadle is still looking for that guy that ran right past him on the first play after Highlands took the lead. Just another example of not putting your BEST on the field for that last drive and thus winning your seventh consecutive state title which would have been 8 the next year and could have been a 9th the year after that had some adjustments been made.

[Iam4thecats]

Can anybody stop the stupid bickering long enough to tell me if an of Cov Cath OL played defense?

[Hatz]

Can anybody stop the stupid bickering long enough to tell me if an of Cov Cath OL played defense?

2. Jack Mailie was listed as Starting at OG and DE. Kameron Butler started at TE and Mike Linebacker.

So technically only 1 I guess.

Look it up here.

https://khsaa.org/football/2017/5aflipcardweb.pdf

[birdman44]

[quote=The Truth Sayer]Are you on AMBIEN like Roseanne? If so, I guess we can give you a re-do.
Unfortunately, this is the type of comment that makes everyone outside of Highlands, HATE Highlands. Everyone has the right to their opinion, but MAN, when you post comments like this, it makes everyone in the Highalnds camp look/sound like morons. Please think before you post. May want to clean off those Bird Goggles because they are making you crazy! Also, we better beat Cov Cath before we start throwing butt-darts at them.:please:

QUOTE]

This is one of the things that used to separate Highlands from other teams. We believed that we were better. We believed we out-worked every other team in the state. We believed we were going to knock whoever was in front of us on their backs. The attitude of "awe shucks I guess they are supposed to be better I guess we'll lose", wasn't even on the radar.

23 state championships don't just happen. That is why people hate Highlands.

[mantax]

Can anybody stop the stupid bickering long enough to tell me if an of Cov Cath OL played defense?

No "stupid" bickering going on for one and if you want to know things about CovCath Oline then why not post it in the thread about them and not the one about Highlands?

[pjdoug]

No "stupid" bickering going on for one and if you want to know things about CovCath Oline then why not post it in the thread about them and not the one about Highlands?

Or ask Woody The Badminton Champion.

[Woodsman]

🤤 I’m embarrassed for you.

[bo67]

5 and 5 regular season

[plantmanky]

5 and 5 regular season

Only way they have 5 losses is if Cooper knocks them off early in the year. Otherwise 6-4 or 7-3.

[Fear the Nation]

8/17
Cooper (Union, KY)
WIN
8/24
@ Campbell County (Alexandria, KY)
LOSS
8/31
Scott County (Georgetown, KY)
LOSS
9/7
@ Ryle (Union, KY)
LOSS[COLOR="darkorange"][/COLOR]
9/14
@ Lexington Catholic (Lexington, KY)
LOSS
9/21
Simon Kenton (Independence, KY)
LOSS
10/4
@ Dixie Heights (Edgewood, KY)
WIN
10/12
Covington Catholic (Park Hills, KY)
LOSS
10/19
Greenwood (Bowling Green, KY)
WIN
10/26
Boone County (Florence, KY)
WIN

4-6...JMO Lex cath could go either way so could be 5-5.

[mantax]

8/17
Cooper (Union, KY)
WIN
8/24
@ Campbell County (Alexandria, KY)
LOSS
8/31
Scott County (Georgetown, KY)
LOSS
9/7
@ Ryle (Union, KY)
LOSS[COLOR="darkorange"][/COLOR]
9/14
@ Lexington Catholic (Lexington, KY)
LOSS
9/21
Simon Kenton (Independence, KY)
LOSS
10/4
@ Dixie Heights (Edgewood, KY)
WIN
10/12
Covington Catholic (Park Hills, KY)
LOSS
10/19
Greenwood (Bowling Green, KY)
WIN
10/26
Boone County (Florence, KY)
WIN

4-6...JMO Lex cath could go either way so could be 5-5.

Will not lose to Campbell County, Ryle or Simon Kenton this year.

[Hatz]

Will not lose to Campbell County, Ryle or Simon Kenton this year.

Did Ryle lose that much from last year?

Simon Kenton?

SK has defeated the Birds 3 straight I think.

Same for Ryle.

[mantax]

Did Ryle lose that much from last year?

Simon Kenton?

SK has defeated the Birds 3 straight I think.

Same for Ryle.

And???????? The 2018 football season stands on its own two feet.

[Fear the Nation]

Will not lose to Campbell County, Ryle or Simon Kenton this year.

Bold statement... That's why we play the games.

[mantax]

Bold statement... That's why we play the games.

No bolder than saying they will go 4-6 and/or 5-5. You are correct about that is why they play the games.

[Hatz]

And???????? The 2018 football season stands on its own two feet.

You are right about that.

Even the Cincy Reds have a chance on opening day. :Thumbs:

[UK1fan]

Probably only 4 wins. Highlands defense is to soft.

[mantax]

Probably only 4 wins. Highlands defense is to soft.

I will gladly take that bet any day any time. Only thing is, I do not think you would ever pay up after you lose.

[mantax]

You are right about that.

Even the Cincy Reds have a chance on opening day. :Thumbs:

We shall see. They will be better than .500 going into the playoffs and I say that with great confidence. They will be markedly improved on game day because of the re-dedication of the coaching staff. In this case there was certainly addition by subtraction.

[plantmanky]

Bold statement... That's why we play the games.

My thoughts too, heck Campbell might be SK and Ryle this year.

[plantmanky]

I will gladly take that bet any day any time. Only thing is, I do not think you would ever pay up after you lose.

If Highlands doesnt beat Cooper in the first game (which first games of the year goofy things can happen) they could start 0-6, and could be 0-8 after Cov Cath.

[mantax]

If Highlands doesnt beat Cooper in the first game (which first games of the year goofy things can happen) they could start 0-6, and could be 0-8 after Cov Cath.

Now that right there is really really funny. Are you kidding me? We are talking about Highlands football, not Grant County football. I want some of what you are drinking, smoking and/or snorting.