[The Urban Sombrero]

“Kim Jung Un is a brutal dictator” (State of the Union)...

“Kim Jung Un loves his people.”
(Several months later)

What is the definition of loyalty to a Tribal Boss? What is the use of truth? How does one discourse rationally with a demagogue? with his acolytes? These issues are so far beyond Obama v. Trump v. Clinton v. Bush. Beyond blue and red. Extremists make for dangerous politics and a more dangerous world. Period.

[Granny Bear]

Is truth situational?

“Kim Jung Un is a brutal dictator” (State of the Union)...

“Kim Jung Un” loves his people.”
(Several months later)

What is the definition of loyalty to a Tribal Boss? Obama and his (for lack of a better term) administration

What is the use of truth? How does one discourse rationally with a demagogue? with his acolytes? These issues are so far beyond Obama v. Trump v. Clinton v. Bush. Beyond blue and red. Extremists make for dangerous politics and a more dangerous world. Period. True statement


My question is why the outrage now?? Trump's foreign policy doesn't even compare with Obama's in terms of success and the safety/success of America.

BUT Trump isn't liberal, isn't black, isn't politically correct.....I could go on and on.

Trump won the Presidency without the support of basically either political party. He has thumbed his nose at the PC of DC. That happens to be one of my more favorite things about him.

Obama stated that Kim Jung Un was the issue that was the most threatening of any other to the United States. Yet he did nothing to solve that problem, and did do things that exacerbated it. I'm not even going to address the unlimited antics of Hillary!

Trump isn't perfect but it appears that we are on a good direction to ease the nuclear threat that Jung Un represented.


Yet the negativity still goes to Trump and Obama gets a pass.

I used to respect your perspectives, but lately you have outdone yourself. To me, you have zero credibility. ZERO

[The Urban Sombrero]

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Whew, what a relief.

Do you believe human beings are perfect? (I assume no, as you profess Christianity).

Are nations and governments made up of human beings? (Obviously)

Thus, can a nation or government made up of imperfect people conduct itself in the world without the need for apologizing on occasion?

Because, really, that’s it, isn’t it? Apologizing for mistakes made, for exploitative policies? Just burned you up, eh? Maybe not, but I do not believe America has existed in the world in flawless perfection. Yet, America has often been a force for good and for freedom. How does acknowledging that before the world mean one is not patriotic? How does suggesting it is wrong headed to think wealth and power make it ok to grab a woman’s genitalia make one a hater of the President? How does holding a man accountable for HIS OWN TWEETS make one a hater? How does calling attention to VAST “situational truth embraces” in our President make one a hater? Talk about fake news and misguided patriotism. So, whew, what a relief.

[The Urban Sombrero]

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And, had Obama met with Kim Jung Un? Announced cessation of military preparedness drills? Called Kim Jung Un a “real nice feller who just loves his people”?

Who you kidding, Echo Chamber? Who you think you’re fooling? Who you lecturing about credibility? Kick rocks.

[Bob Seger]

“Kim Jung Un is a brutal dictator” (State of the Union)...

“Kim Jung Un loves his people.”
(Several months later)

What is the definition of loyalty to a Tribal Boss? What is the use of truth? How does one discourse rationally with a demagogue? with his acolytes? These issues are so far beyond Obama v. Trump v. Clinton v. Bush. Beyond blue and red. Extremists make for dangerous politics and a more dangerous world. Period.

Seeing that no bigger liar has ever graced the pages of BGR than The Urban Sombrero, since when does "truth" factor into anything that you are associated with?

[The Urban Sombrero]

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And, if President Trump’s leadership results in the denuclearization of the Korean peninsula and a safer, more peaceful world, his critics can kick rocks. We’ll see.

[Bob Seger]

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And, if President Trump’s leadership results in the denuclearization of the Korean peninsula and a safer, more peaceful world, his critics can kick rocks. We’ll see.

Must be the latest CNN word of the day..

Moron!!

[The Urban Sombrero]

Seeing that no bigger liar has ever graced the pages of BGR than The Urban Sombrero, since when does "truth" factor into anything that you are associated with?

Kick rocks, Bob. If you’re not a white nationalist, you sure wear the uniform. I notice, Bob, you never want to stay on the ground of the tweeting don’s OWN WORDS. Bullying won’t work here, Bob. Your sophomoric blown snot is on your hanky, friendo. You’re just comical.

[The Urban Sombrero]

Must be the latest CNN word of the day..

Moron!!

Right after kicking rocks, eh...never mind.

[Bob Seger]

Kick rocks, Bob. If you’re not a white nationalist, you sure wear the uniform. I notice, Bob, you never want to stay on the ground of the tweeting don’s OWN WORDS. Bullying won’t work here, Bob. Your sophomoric blown snot is on your hanky, friendo. You’re just comical.

Well now isn't that just swell, considering that you may be the biggest racist that's ever posted on this forum.

[The Urban Sombrero]

Well now isn't that just swell, considering that you may be the biggest racist that's ever posted on this forum.

Black nationalism was in response to racial discrimination, real and tangible and palpable. White nationalism is about white supremacy. So, Bob, if it gets you through the night, fluff the pillow. But your bullying? It isn’t working. Kick rocks.

[The Urban Sombrero]

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By the way, in Christ there is no black nor white nor Jew nor Gentile, for Christ is all and all is Christ. The Mexican? He is my brother. Am I my brother’s keeper?

[Bob Seger]

Sayeth the most prolific racist that has ever graced the pages of BGR.

....Period!!

[TheRealThing]

Must be the latest CNN word of the day..

Moron!!

Actually I believe 'kick rocks' is another California slang. Sombrero evidently identifies with Valley girls. :biggrin:

[TheRealThing]

Is truth situational?

“Kim Jung Un is a brutal dictator” (State of the Union)...

“Kim Jung Un” loves his people.”
(Several months later)

What is the definition of loyalty to a Tribal Boss? Obama and his (for lack of a better term) administration

What is the use of truth? How does one discourse rationally with a demagogue? with his acolytes? These issues are so far beyond Obama v. Trump v. Clinton v. Bush. Beyond blue and red. Extremists make for dangerous politics and a more dangerous world. Period. True statement


My question is why the outrage now?? Trump's foreign policy doesn't even compare with Obama's in terms of success and the safety/success of America.

BUT Trump isn't liberal, isn't black, isn't politically correct.....I could go on and on.

Trump won the Presidency without the support of basically either political party. He has thumbed his nose at the PC of DC. That happens to be one of my more favorite things about him.

Obama stated that Kim Jung Un was the issue that was the most threatening of any other to the United States. Yet he did nothing to solve that problem, and did do things that exacerbated it. I'm not even going to address the unlimited antics of Hillary!

Trump isn't perfect but it appears that we are on a good direction to ease the nuclear threat that Jung Un represented.


Yet the negativity still goes to Trump and Obama gets a pass.

I used to respect your perspectives, but lately you have outdone yourself. To me, you have zero credibility. ZERO

Agreed. But then I knew in his zeal to put polish to his latest drivel, Sombrero would roll right over your irrefutable logic with hardly a bobble of his head.

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Whew, what a relief.

Do you believe human beings are perfect? (I assume no, as you profess Christianity).

Are nations and governments made up of human beings? (Obviously)

Thus, can a nation or government made up of imperfect people conduct itself in the world without the need for apologizing on occasion?

Because, really, that’s it, isn’t it? Apologizing for mistakes made, for exploitative policies? Just burned you up, eh? Maybe not, but I do not believe America has existed in the world in flawless perfection. Yet, America has often been a force for good and for freedom. How does acknowledging that before the world mean one is not patriotic? How does suggesting it is wrong headed to think wealth and power make it ok to grab a woman’s genitalia make one a hater of the President? How does holding a man accountable for HIS OWN TWEETS make one a hater? How does calling attention to VAST “situational truth embraces” in our President make one a hater? Talk about fake news and misguided patriotism. So, whew, what a relief.

Is truth situational? That would certainly seem to be the case with you.

I'm sorry but where was it again that Obama ever apologized to the American people for lying to them (many times) like dogs? Or for mitigating 240 years of greatness, or for punishing white people and industry via environmental and financial regulation, or for encouraging racially charged civil unrest, or for politicizing the US military and the police?

Talk about misguided patriotism, at what point was it that Trump sent jets loaded with untraceable cash to the world's premier terror supporter? Made an 'on mic' aside to a Russian President asking for Putin to give him 'time' for some backdoor shenanigan. Or while flying around DC attempt as his last dirty deed, to transfer millions of US taxpayer dollars to Palestine?

God says all men are born dead in trespass and sin. But to hear you tell it there will be a 'great reversal.' As if color or nationality will one day afford everybody but white people privilege.

[The Urban Sombrero]

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In Christ there is no white nor black. “Woe unto you who are rich now...Blessed are you who are poor now”... Now, let’s see, the rich now have had their good things, and the poor now shall be blessed...oh, that’s sort of a reversal of fortunes (no pun intended). White nationalism is premised upon white supremacy. It’s not even debateable. The greatness of ANY human institution or nation is not now and never was flawless perfection. Mistakes get made. Atrocities happen. Apologizing is not weakness. Geez, TRT, are you a scribe?

[The Urban Sombrero]

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Speaking of drivel, I thought, TRT, you held that talking to dictators, as Obama said he would in a debate, was just the worst. Now, to me, the flip flop flim flam is politics, and both sides do it, and it’s not a big deal. But, oh no, not you, TRT, not you nationalist conservatives. Get real. Kick rocks.

[The Urban Sombrero]

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Uh, and oh Bob, “kick rocks” is more attached to Stephen A. Smith than anybody else I guess, but it’s fairly common. Kick rocks.

[The Urban Sombrero]

Actually I believe 'kick rocks' is another California slang. Sombrero evidently identifies with Valley girls. :biggrin:

Eh, maybe you’ll read it. Until then, kick rocks.

[Granny Bear]

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And, had Obama met with Kim Jung Un? Announced cessation of military preparedness drills? Called Kim Jung Un a “real nice feller who just loves his people”?
We'll never know, will we? WE SAW....that Obama didn't have the guts to meet with him.

Who you kidding, Echo Chamber? Who you think you’re fooling? Who you lecturing about credibility? Kick rocks.

You are the one with ZERO credibility.

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In Christ there is no white nor black. “Woe unto you who are rich now...Blessed are you who are poor now”... Now, let’s see, the rich now have had their good things, and the poor now shall be blessed...oh, that’s sort of a reversal of fortunes (no pun intended). White nationalism is premised upon white supremacy. It’s not even debateable. The greatness of ANY human institution or nation is not now and never was flawless perfection. Mistakes get made. Atrocities happen. Apologizing is not weakness. Geez, TRT, are you a scribe?

This all depends on your personal definition of rich and poor. I consider myself very rich, although my bank account's balance is currently in the three digit zone.

I don't trust your perception of apologizing. I've never seen you make a serious one...…..not one.

Eh, maybe you’ll read it. Until then, kick rocks.

Urban Dictionary:
It means to get the f--- out of my face. Usually you say it to a girl when she asking for u to get back with her after she break up with her and you got ur other b---- ...


Zero credibility......ZERO.

[The Urban Sombrero]

You are the one with ZERO credibility.


This all depends on your personal definition of rich and poor. I consider myself very rich, although my bank account's balance is currently in the three digit zone.

I don't trust your perception of apologizing. I've never seen you make a serious one...…..not one.


Urban Dictionary:
It means to get the f--- out of my face. Usually you say it to a girl when she asking for u to get back with her after she break up with her and you got ur other b---- ...


Zero credibility......ZERO.

Check Stephen A Smith as he uses it in debate. Note: back in the day “kick rock” was a game played walking down a path or road. Speaking of credibility, is Kim Jung Un a “friend to the North Korean people”? Well, is he?

[The Urban Sombrero]

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It is a dismissal—"Leave" or "Go away"—similar to "Take a hike." When people walk on dirt or gravel paths, they often kick some of the rocks down the path. Another similar phrase I heard in the U.S. Army: "Go pound sand," implying that the listener should do so with their feet.

from Urban Dictionary

[TheRealThing]

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In Christ there is no white nor black. “Woe unto you who are rich now...Blessed are you who are poor now”... Now, let’s see, the rich now have had their good things, and the poor now shall be blessed...oh, that’s sort of a reversal of fortunes (no pun intended). White nationalism is premised upon white supremacy. It’s not even debateable. The greatness of ANY human institution or nation is not now and never was flawless perfection. Mistakes get made. Atrocities happen. Apologizing is not weakness. Geez, TRT, are you a scribe?

The Lord is not speaking about money when He makes the comment about people being first and last; Luke 13:30 (KJV)
[B]v 30[/B] "And, behold, there are last which shall be first, and there are first which shall be last." --- The Lord Jesus Christ

The Jew across time believed that the covenant between God and Abraham guaranteed all Jews were 'first', and would inherit the Kingdom. They believe this is their birthright. Therefore, any Jew can trace his genealogy back to Father Abraham and the Abrahamic Covenant, because in his mind if he can legitimately do that, then he's automatically in, or 'first.' Thus every Jew from that day to this day, can stand there and give an accurate accounting of his own lineage. Hence all the genealogies listed so often in the Scripture.

Jews wrongly believe they are 'first' due to their lineage. I mean which sounds easier to you, just being born into glory, or begging forgiveness. But the Lord has made it more than clear, to enter the kingdom of God, "Ye must be borned again." No Jew is guaranteed eternal life, even if Abraham is in the direct line of his grandfathers. Therefore, those dirty Gentiles who've accepted Christ as Savior to the Jew's horror, will be first, (bound for the Kingdom) and the Jew who has not accepted Christ as Lord and Savior will be last. (excluded from the Kingdom)


Rich people do have a tendency to reject Christ because they don't see any need of a Savior, they can buy their way out of a jamb. And the rich are often selfish, as when the beggar at the rich man's table, laid back on the floor or the dirt as the case was, waiting for any crumbs that might fall to the ground. That's the reason the Lord pronounces woe on the rich, not because they're any worse than the poor. And the poor don't have any easy street reduction or reversal coming their way because they are poor. They get to heaven the exact same way anybody does. They bow before Almighty God and ask forgiveness for their sins. The how and the why of which is the purview of the Holy Spirit.

Now, I have said all the above to keep the record correct. I don't expect you to accept the truth of it in any way.


Again, where was the Obama apologies?

[Hoot Gibson]

Is truth situational?

“Kim Jung Un is a brutal dictator” (State of the Union)...

“Kim Jung Un” loves his people.”
(Several months later)

What is the definition of loyalty to a Tribal Boss? Obama and his (for lack of a better term) administration

What is the use of truth? How does one discourse rationally with a demagogue? with his acolytes? These issues are so far beyond Obama v. Trump v. Clinton v. Bush. Beyond blue and red. Extremists make for dangerous politics and a more dangerous world. Period. True statement


My question is why the outrage now?? Trump's foreign policy doesn't even compare with Obama's in terms of success and the safety/success of America.

BUT Trump isn't liberal, isn't black, isn't politically correct.....I could go on and on.

Trump won the Presidency without the support of basically either political party. He has thumbed his nose at the PC of DC. That happens to be one of my more favorite things about him.

Obama stated that Kim Jung Un was the issue that was the most threatening of any other to the United States. Yet he did nothing to solve that problem, and did do things that exacerbated it. I'm not even going to address the unlimited antics of Hillary!

Trump isn't perfect but it appears that we are on a good direction to ease the nuclear threat that Jung Un represented.


Yet the negativity still goes to Trump and Obama gets a pass.

I used to respect your perspectives, but lately you have outdone yourself. To me, you have zero credibility. ZERO

Well said, Granny. Sombrero is a tireless fountain of selective outrage.

[TheRealThing]

Well said, Granny. Sombrero is a tireless fountain of selective outrage.

There is no evidence he can't drive around. Or maybe I should have said Duck, Dip, Dive, Dodge and Duck his way around.

[Hoot Gibson]

There is no evidence he can't drive around. Or maybe I should have said Duck, Dip, Dive, Dodge and Duck his way around.

Based on his posts, I suspect that Sombrero has unsuccessfully dodged more than his share of wrenches.

[TheRealThing]

Based on his posts, I suspect that Sombrero has unsuccessfully dodged more than his share of wrenches.

:thatsfunn I think at least one, and a big one at that, must have found it's mark.

[Granny Bear]

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It is a dismissal—"Leave" or "Go away"—similar to "Take a hike." When people walk on dirt or gravel paths, they often kick some of the rocks down the path. Another similar phrase I heard in the U.S. Army: "Go pound sand," implying that the listener should do so with their feet.

from Urban Dictionary

I see you checked out the source. At least you know my reporting was credible. Eh? Oh, never mind.

Check Stephen A Smith as he uses it in debate. Note: back in the day “kick rock” was a game played walking down a path or road. Speaking of credibility, is Kim Jung Un a “friend to the North Korean people”? Well, is he?

That was Kick the Can.

Tell you what IS credible. Comey's reputation and credibility exists no more. Obama used code names and code words when emailing Hillary on an unsecured server. Bill Clinton is "offended" because of all the shade thrown on his tarmac meeting with Lulu (my pet name for Loretta Lynch).

They, like you, have zero credibility...…..ZERO

[The Urban Sombrero]

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The IG report, which, admittedly is critical of Comey, also did not find political motive to be operational in the probe. Based on IG report, Comey saw himself, it seems, as something of a moral lone wolf howling to keep himself pure. As a result, he breached protocol and the chain of command. HOWEVER, to jump to “zero credibility” is, again, political wagging. Quite natural, operational in both parties, and utterly precictable. Just like the Echo Chamber. And, kick rocks. I am sure, here in the Echo Chamber, that the credible, in their demagogue worship, are quite incredulous when the tweeting don’s OWN WORDS are used as source.

[The Urban Sombrero]

“Kim JUNG UN HAS GREAT LOVE FOR HIS PEOPLE.”

His starving, repressed, tortured people?

IS TRUTH SITUATIONAL?

Note: The Sombrero did not say it. The tweeting don did.