[Pulp Fiction]

With 33 teams listed in Class 6A.... Only 15 out of the 120 counties have at least one 6A football team. If you drew a line from where Campbell County meets Ohio straight down in between McCreary & Whitley Counties, there are no 6A teams East of that line.

9 teams from the Lex/Richmond/Winchester/GTown area.
6 teams from NKY.
10 teams from Jefferson County.
2 teams from Hardin County.

That's twenty seven teams from seven counties and all seven are some of the biggest metro areas in the state. The remaining six teams are scattered in six separate counties in the Western part of the state.






I could be way off base, but I feel pretty confident in saying there is a major disconnect feeling from 6A to the rest of the classes.

You use your own point, the most populous areas in the state have many 6A teams. So shouldn't that mean there are many people who care about it?

Or is your statement, 'there are no 6A schools schools near me so I don't know anyone who cares'?

In all honesty there are few 1A schools in Louisville so I don't pay much attention to the class, but I don't disparage it just because of a lack of personal interest.

The most populous areas doesn't equal the most interest.

Let's look at some evidence behind by thinking........

2007 - Trinity
2008 - Trinity
2009 - St. X
2010 - Trinity
2011 - Trinity
2012 - Trinity
2013 - Scott County
2014 - Trinity
2015 - Male
2016 - Trinity
2017 - T or X ???

This is the eleventh season that 6A has been added, only four schools have won the state title. Three teams from Louisville and Scott County, this year either T or X will win it.
We all know that T and X are two of the best current and traditional football powers in the state. With the number of male students they have and the resources they have, they should be.


We haven't seen an Underdog story in 6A or the old 4A class since the 1991 GRC team that beat St. X in the finals... if you can consider that an upset.

From 2006-1997, 4A was won by either T, X or Male.

2006 - Trinity
2005 - Trinity
2004 - St. X
2003 - Trinity
2002 - Trinity
2001 - Trinity
2000 - Male
1999 - St. X
1998 - Male
1997 - St. X

In the past twenty one consecutive seasons, only FOUR teams have won the 6A or old 4A state title. T, X, Male & Scott County.... Twenty of the twenty one state titles have been claimed by a team from Jefferson County. Seventeen of the twenty one being claimed by a Louisville area, Catholic school.



Nobody can tell me that 6A or the old 4A class has had any type of true underdog or Cinderella type story in the past twenty one seasons. Where's the drama or excitement about a class that hasn't been competitive except for four teams in twenty one years? For the very small number of schools that have a legitimate shot at winning 6A, then yes, I would say they do 'care' about 6A, but that number is very small in comparison to those that don't. It wouldn't be right for me to say that the other twenty nine teams in 6A that aren't T, X, Male or Scott County don't give their 110% in practice and in games or they don't strive to win the state title each season. If 6A saw a state championship game that had two teams that had never won 6A or any other football state title, then I would have to say that 6A would get more interest than when T & X play each other.

[cj2561]

Trinity by 3 TDS

[CarzyRock]

:biglmao: Ok....If you truly believe that, I feel for you. I guess it's just all coincidences that a lot of kids from Indiana and surrounding counties that decide to transfer to Trinity, St.X, ect, happen to be 6'4" 300lb+ kids, or kids running a 4.3 40? Lol.
Or, that a family of an exceptional athlete that happens to be poor, can bring their kid to a school with a tuition of $40K a year. You all are just some lucky people up that way I guess. Lol. I honestly couldn't care less if you recruit everyday of the week and twice on Sunday. I just think everyone should be able to do the same.

It's no coincidence at all. Trinity is regularly in the national spotlight and kids know it. They want to attend Trinity because they know it will get them noticed. The coaches don't need to recruit, the reputation of Trinity sells itself.

I'm not sure where you got the $40K number from but Trinity is about $12K per year last I checked. Up to half of that can be paid for with financial aid if the family has demonstrated need. That need is assessed by a third-party company that is not owned or affiliated with Trinity. And that financial aid is for anyone attending the school, not just athletes.

[CarzyRock]

You are right I should of posted "go to" instead of "go back to".

I was told by a former Trinity Assistant coach that he had to pick up and drive home a running back 45 miles each way into Indiana 6 days a week during football season. That's 180 miles a day,

Now I would report it to the Khsaa but this occurred in the 80's.

I honestly do not know the answer to this question but didn't they vote to separate the public and private schools a few years back and the legislature blocked it from happening?

We probably should get back to the game. It should be a $ maker for the KHSAA. Good luck to both teams.

Finally I am glad this is BGR because if I posted this on that other site I would of gotten banned for the third time.hh:

I would request that you report it anyway if that is the case.

Past or present, there is no excuse.


I don't recall that vote, but it is possible I just didn't hear about it. As for the game, I know several T faithful who are going, but I'm worried that the X fans won't show up in force. Some friends of mine from X seem kinda down about their chances to win and don't plan on going.

[CarzyRock]

The most populous areas doesn't equal the most interest.

Let's look at some evidence behind by thinking........

2007 - Trinity
2008 - Trinity
2009 - St. X
2010 - Trinity
2011 - Trinity
2012 - Trinity
2013 - Scott County
2014 - Trinity
2015 - Male
2016 - Trinity
2017 - T or X ???

This is the eleventh season that 6A has been added, only four schools have won the state title. Three teams from Louisville and Scott County, this year either T or X will win it.
We all know that T and X are two of the best current and traditional football powers in the state. With the number of male students they have and the resources they have, they should be.


We haven't seen an Underdog story in 6A or the old 4A class since the 1991 GRC team that beat St. X in the finals... if you can consider that an upset.

From 2006-1997, 4A was won by either T, X or Male.

2006 - Trinity
2005 - Trinity
2004 - St. X
2003 - Trinity
2002 - Trinity
2001 - Trinity
2000 - Male
1999 - St. X
1998 - Male
1997 - St. X

In the past twenty one consecutive seasons, only FOUR teams have won the 6A or old 4A state title. T, X, Male & Scott County.... Twenty of the twenty one state titles have been claimed by a team from Jefferson County. Seventeen of the twenty one being claimed by a Louisville area, Catholic school.



Nobody can tell me that 6A or the old 4A class has had any type of true underdog or Cinderella type story in the past twenty one seasons. Where's the drama or excitement about a class that hasn't been competitive except for four teams in twenty one years? For the very small number of schools that have a legitimate shot at winning 6A, then yes, I would say they do 'care' about 6A, but that number is very small in comparison to those that don't. It wouldn't be right for me to say that the other twenty nine teams in 6A that aren't T, X, Male or Scott County don't give their 110% in practice and in games or they don't strive to win the state title each season. If 6A saw a state championship game that had two teams that had never won 6A or any other football state title, then I would have to say that 6A would get more interest than when T & X play each other.

The only way a game can be interesting is if it's an underdog story?

I'm going to have to disagree with you there. Rivalries add a great spice to a finals game and there is no biggest rivalry in the state than these two. Plus, as I mentioned earlier, they are two of the best teams in the state. Top level football will be on display.

Your post sounds a lot more like a regional gripe, 'if someone from outside Louisville doesn't win why should I care?', than any actual reason for why the game wouldn't be interesting.

Shrug, no team from Louisville has ever won 1A, but I don't downtalk that class.

[Pulp Fiction]

The only way a game can be interesting is if it's an underdog story?

I'm going to have to disagree with you there. Rivalries add a great spice to a finals game and there is no biggest rivalry in the state than these two. Plus, as I mentioned earlier, they are two of the best teams in the state. Top level football will be on display.

Your post sounds a lot more like a regional gripe, 'if someone from outside Louisville doesn't win why should I care?', than any actual reason for why the game wouldn't be interesting.

Shrug, no team from Louisville has ever won 1A, but I don't downtalk that class.

Everybody on this board knows I'm a Johnson Central fan. There are no 6A teams within two hours of me, regional gripe isn't my motive. We played Henry Clay this season and won on their field. My team doesn't compete in 6A, so I don't care who wins. Knowing that T or X is going to be the favorite every year doesn't create a lot of interest across the state for those teams not named Trinity or St. Xavier. The Rocks & The Tigers are a great rivalry, never said they weren't. Playing your rival for a state championship is the best way to end your season.

I'll say this and I'm done with this topic.... the KHSAA wants an All-Louisville 6A state finals and they got it. IMO, it would be great for 6A football to see a team besides one of the four I mentioned earlier win the 6A class. Let other teams see that there is an outside shot to climb the top of the 6A mountain.

[Jaguarhoundbird]

It's no coincidence at all. Trinity is regularly in the national spotlight and kids know it. They want to attend Trinity because they know it will get them noticed. The coaches don't need to recruit, the reputation of Trinity sells itself.

I'm not sure where you got the $40K number from but Trinity is about $12K per year last I checked. Up to half of that can be paid for with financial aid if the family has demonstrated need. That need is assessed by a third-party company that is not owned or affiliated with Trinity. And that financial aid is for anyone attending the school, not just athletes.

"They want to attend Trinity because they know it will get them noticed"

May be wrong, but isn't transferring for athletic reasons the #1 no-no in switching schools according to the khsaa?

[thsrocks]

I will care when Trinity and X and all the other private schools have to play by the same limitations as the pubic schools.
Or better yet
I say go back to 4 public school classes and two private school classes. Then I will care.

Trinity 41-6

I guess you may want to plan on moving to Tennessee.

Limitations? I know of people who pay small tuition to attend neighboring county public schools. Oldham Countians have paid to attend Ballard. Also, do you want to kick out the "Independent" school district teams? They enjoy some advantages. There are 13 football playing private schools in Kentucky-3 in the top three classes and 10 in the smaller three classes. How about basketball, swimming, etc?

For the record: St. Xavier joined the KHSAA in 1917. Their first football team captain, as reported by the Courier-Journal, was from Jeffersonville, IN. He had to "travel by boat" every day to cross the Ohio River! Nice dedication.

[CarzyRock]

Everybody on this board knows I'm a Johnson Central fan. There are no 6A teams within two hours of me, regional gripe isn't my motive. We played Henry Clay this season and won on their field. My team doesn't compete in 6A, so I don't care who wins. Knowing that T or X is going to be the favorite every year doesn't create a lot of interest across the state for those teams not named Trinity or St. Xavier. The Rocks & The Tigers are a great rivalry, never said they weren't. Playing your rival for a state championship is the best way to end your season.

I'll say this and I'm done with this topic.... the KHSAA wants an All-Louisville 6A state finals and they got it. IMO, it would be great for 6A football to see a team besides one of the four I mentioned earlier win the 6A class. Let other teams see that there is an outside shot to climb the top of the 6A mountain.

I figured Scott County had already done that, being the first non-Jefferson school to win in two decades and consistently coming back as a contender.

In essence I agree with you, though. I would love for the level of competition in 6A to increase. I'll always root for my Rocks to win, but facing fiercer competition could only be good for them as a program, even if it meant they lost more often.

[Willie Turnover]

I guess I am a math guy, if there are 16 private schools playing football and there are 184 public schools playing, with no advantage private schools should win 8% of the football championships.
Not one time have you heard me say trinity coaches recruit. I agree with you, in that your programs history and competiveness recruits itself. Kids with Football skills would want to come there, I get that.

And I will say this, not all kids that come to Trinity and St.X run a 4.3 40 yd dash, or are 6'3 and weigh 310 lbs.
SOME are 5'6, 145 pounds , that are scratch golfers. Lol

Help me understand the difference between Trinity, Saint X, Lexington Catholic, and a prep school.

[CarzyRock]

"They want to attend Trinity because they know it will get them noticed"

May be wrong, but isn't transferring for athletic reasons the #1 no-no in switching schools according to the khsaa?

I thought their big 'no-no' was players being promised playing time, positions or other incentives to switch.

It's not like athletics are the only reason to go to Trinity; it offers a top-notch education as well. But honestly, if a kid wants to make a move for athletics, if they feel that is their ticket to a college scholarship, I have no problem with them transferring schools. That should be their decision to make and no school should actively influence them one way or another.

[Iam4thecats]

Trinity by 14

[Pulp Fiction]

P.S.


1959 was the first season of football for the KHSAA. Only 3A, 2A & 1A.
1975 was the first season for Class 4A. 31 seasons.
2007 was the first season for Class 6A. 11 seasons.

4A from 1975-2006.
22 - Louisville area Catholic schools. (Trinity & St. X)
4 - Jefferson County public. (Male & Butler)
5 - Other than Jefferson County/Louisville. (Christian County, Henry Clay, Shelby County, GRC & Nelson County)

6A from 2007 - Present
9 - Louisville area Catholic schools. (Trinity & St. X)
1 - Jefferson County Public school. (Male)
1 - Other than Jefferson County/Louisville. (Scott County)


Out of 42 seasons of 4A & 6A football....
31 state titles claimed by a Louisville area Catholic school. (Trinity or St. X)
5 state titles claimed by a Jefferson County public school. (Male or Butler)
6 state titles claimed by teams outside of Jefferson County/Louisville. (Christian County, Henry Clay, Shelby County, Nelson County & Scott County)

36 of the 42 seasons won by a Jefferson County/Louisville area team in the old 4A, current 6A classes. That's a .857 winning percentage.


Back to my original point, in 42 seasons, only 9 different teams have won the state title in old 4A & current 6A. Articulate for me how the winner of 6A matters outside of the a few select areas of the state... especially when T & X are in the state finals. The overall football is probably better in 6A than the other classes. The NFL has overall better football than college, but college means so much more to people and is more personable. When was the last time you saw an NFL fan base rush the field after a big win?

The other classes are so spread out from East to West & North to South. Not every county in the state has a team in each class, but more people are closer to a 1A-5A school than they are a 6A.


1A - Beechwood (NKY) vs. Raceland (NEKY)
2A - Mayfield (WKY) vs. Danville (CKY)
3A - Corbin (SEKY) vs. Boyle County (CKY)
4A - Franklin-Simpson (WKY) vs. Johnson Central (EKY)
5A - Covington Catholic (NKY) vs. Madison Southern (CKY)

The other five classes have teams that are pretty far away from each other.
Not two teams from the largest populated city in the state & from the same Diocese. Again, not trying to offend anybody of the Catholic religion.

[Redwolf]

I guess you may want to plan on moving to Tennessee.

Limitations? I know of people who pay small tuition to attend neighboring county public schools. Oldham Countians have paid to attend Ballard. Also, do you want to kick out the "Independent" school district teams? They enjoy some advantages. There are 13 football playing private schools in Kentucky-3 in the top three classes and 10 in the smaller three classes. How about basketball, swimming, etc?

For the record: St. Xavier joined the KHSAA in 1917. Their first football team captain, as reported by the Courier-Journal, was from Jeffersonville, IN. He had to "travel by boat" every day to cross the Ohio River! Nice dedication.

Please explain the advantage of independent districts. I've heard several people say that over the years.

[Axel Foley]

Shamrocks bring home another championship 21-0.

[Mister D]

Trinity by 13. I think fans from outside of Louisville are conditioned now to a certain sense of inevitability that the champion will always be St. X or Trinity. There’s no real reason to keep up with other teams in 6A because they have little to no shot of winning. It definitely takes the suspense out of the playoffs. However, I will say the St. X/Trinity rivalry is really intense and definitely a game I would watch.

[Pulp Fiction]

Trinity by 13. I think fans from outside of Louisville are conditioned now to a certain sense of inevitability that the champion will always be St. X or Trinity. There’s no real reason to keep up with other teams in 6A because they have little to no shot of winning. It definitely takes the suspense out of the playoffs. However, I will say the St. X/Trinity rivalry is really intense and definitely a game I would watch.

Well said.

[Hound05]

It's no coincidence at all. Trinity is regularly in the national spotlight and kids know it. They want to attend Trinity because they know it will get them noticed. The coaches don't need to recruit, the reputation of Trinity sells itself.

I'm not sure where you got the $40K number from but Trinity is about $12K per year last I checked. Up to half of that can be paid for with financial aid if the family has demonstrated need. That need is assessed by a third-party company that is not owned or affiliated with Trinity. And that financial aid is for anyone attending the school, not just athletes.

Don’t pay no mind to that. He has an obsession with other teams and their “alleged” recruiting. Half of his threads are about corbin doing the same thing. And we are a public school. Some covet what others have. Not saying he does. But he sure don’t make a good case for himself

[Iam4thecats]

Please explain the advantage of independent districts. I've heard several people say that over the years.

I posted this in another thread.
An independent may have 200 boys that live within 5 miles of school. A county school may have 200 boys that live within 50 miles of school.
Its different probability of number of boys/parents interested in playing football.

[Spirit100]

It is what it is folks...Trinity can cut some nice checks to their coaching staff being a private. Someone track down the HCs salary. It wouldn't surprise me if it's plus $85K if not closer to $125K! He has a great supporting cast from what i understand as well.

And a winning tradition will cast a broad net attracting good athletes...

Trinity wins by a comfortable 2 scores unless they turn the ball over!!!

[Hound05]

I posted this in another thread.
An independent may have 200 boys that live within 5 miles of school. A county school may have 200 boys that live within 50 miles of school.
Its different probability of number of boys/parents interested in playing football.

no offense, but I'm not buying that. County school typically have more students to choose from than independent schools, because they are larger. So the proximity advantage is usually evened out by that. Look at Corbin and the surrounding schools. All 3 that surround us are larger schools. Therefor they have more numbers to choose from. I'm pretty sure we'd all like to have more of a sample of bodies to choose from than living closer to the school. If there is dedication from the students, parents, school, and coaches, travel time to practice and such should be taken care of. In fact, Corbin has reciprocal agreements with other schools such as whitley county, our kids can go there and theirs here (corbin). And, the kids make it to practice one way or another. Our RB when I was in school lived deep in whitley county, he never had issues. If anything, and on average, independent schools are typically at a disadvantage

[Iam4thecats]

no offense, but I'm not buying that. County school typically have more students to choose from than independent schools, because they are larger. So the proximity advantage is usually evened out by that. Look at Corbin and the surrounding schools. All 3 that surround us are larger schools. Therefor they have more numbers to choose from. I'm pretty sure we'd all like to have more of a sample of bodies to choose from than living closer to the school. If there is dedication from the students, parents, school, and coaches, travel time to practice and such should be taken care of. In fact, Corbin has reciprocal agreements with other schools such as whitley county, our kids can go there and theirs here (corbin). And, the kids make it to practice one way or another. Our RB when I was in school lived deep in whitley county, he never had issues. If anything, and on average, independent schools are typically at a disadvantage

Dosen't matter whether you buy it or not. Numbers are numbers. You just compared Corbin to teams in higher classes. If you don't think Corbin has advantages over Casey, Larue, or Garrard who are all in your class and had good teams this year then your'e just in denial.

[thsrocks]

"They want to attend Trinity because they know it will get them noticed"

May be wrong, but isn't transferring for athletic reasons the #1 no-no in switching schools according to the khsaa?

Transferring for many, many reasons are permissible. Trinity has up to 40 transfers in and a similar number transfer out each school year across the board.

There is NO 50% rule. If a family has a demonstrated need, Trinity can get it down to less than $3,000. Technically, if Trinity had enough financial aid to go around, all tuition could be paid for.

My understanding. the KHSAA does receive a list of all students on financial aid.

In several instances, grandparents are helping pick up the tab. Their income has no bearing on the financial aid package.

I hope the St. Xavier student athletes continue to provide locker room worthy quotes. :devilflam

[Hound05]

Dosen't matter whether you buy it or not. Numbers are numbers. You just compared Corbin to teams in higher classes. If you don't think Corbin has advantages over Casey, Larue, or Garrard who are all in your class and had good teams this year then your'e just in denial.

Well, first of all, I didn't mean to get ya so worked up, just said, "I wasn't buying it".

2nd of all. You just look at Corbin, and even in that, those proximity advantages are offset by other things. The reason I used larger schools is because those are the schools in the surrounding area!! But that same question can be asked right back to you. Do I think Williamsburg has advantages over a County school? NOPE! And guess what, it shows.

I used the word typically a lot, because corbin is kind of an anomaly in this. Pineville isn't competing for titles, or Bville. So if you're gonna just use one part of the equation- Corbin- then you don't get a true understanding of it.

Last, like I said above, the proximity advantage is offset by a lot of other factors. I would gladly give this "advantage" up for some of the others. Independent school districts have less of a pool to pluck talent from. They get less money than other COUNTY schools. All the money received for sports is less than county schools, this doesn't include fund raising by boosters and other people. There are several more disadvantages of being and independent school district. To say they have an advantage- no offense to you- is ignorant! But I'm willing to listen to your side of it. But you cant expect to say that CORBIN has advantages of county schools, and expect people to buy that independent districts have advantages. That's one school in a big pond. If independent districts have and advantage overall on County schools, then what are they? Because as a product of one, we had to fight for everything we got.

[Iam4thecats]

Well, first of all, I didn't mean to get ya so worked up, just said, "I wasn't buying it".

2nd of all. You just look at Corbin, and even in that, those proximity advantages are offset by other things. The reason I used larger schools is because those are the schools in the surrounding area!! But that same question can be asked right back to you. Do I think Williamsburg has advantages over a County school? NOPE! And guess what, it shows.

I used the word typically a lot, because corbin is kind of an anomaly in this. Pineville isn't competing for titles, or Bville. So if you're gonna just use one part of the equation- Corbin- then you don't get a true understanding of it.

Last, like I said above, the proximity advantage is offset by a lot of other factors. I would gladly give this "advantage" up for some of the others. Independent school districts have less of a pool to pluck talent from. They get less money than other COUNTY schools. All the money received for sports is less than county schools, this doesn't include fund raising by boosters and other people. There are several more disadvantages of being and independent school district. To say they have an advantage- no offense to you- is ignorant! But I'm willing to listen to your side of it. But you cant expect to say that CORBIN has advantages of county schools, and expect people to buy that independent districts have advantages. That's one school in a big pond. If independent districts have and advantage overall on County schools, then what are they? Because as a product of one, we had to fight for everything we got.

Youre really having trouble with the size thing. Compare apples to apples. Bracken county is the only 1a county school I can find with a winning record. Yes, Williamsburg has advantages over Bracken county.
You're also having trouble with the word advantage. Advantage is not the same as guarantee. Pineville isn't guaranteed to be better than Bracken at football. They just might have an easier time getting kids to play and practice. Its not a promise that they will be good. I don't know why Barbourville is in your post they dont have a team.

[Hound05]

Youre really having trouble with the size thing. Compare apples to apples. Bracken county is the only 1a county school I can find with a winning record. Yes, Williamsburg has advantages over Bracken county.
You're also having trouble with the word advantage. Advantage is not the same as guarantee. Pineville isn't guaranteed to be better than Bracken at football. They just might have an easier time getting kids to play and practice. Its not a promise that they will be good. I don't know why Barbourville is in your post they dont have a team.

Nope, no trouble what so ever. You talk about guarantee's, well then, a winning record has nothing to do with it. A winning record isn't a guarantee either, so take all of them into account, since according to you they're all at a disadvantage. But we'll stay with your train of thought just for fun. Crittenden CO, winning record! Bracken Co., winning record! Lynn Camp, Phelps, Hazard, ALL HAVE WINNING RECORDS. Just because they don't have the word county behind them, doesn't mean they aren't county schools. They are, they are NOT independent. So, NO, wburg does not have an overall advantage over those schools. But since you are stuck on the "getting kids to play" I will say that would be the only advantage wburg has over any of those schools, and that's not even an advantage, because it doesn't guarantee anything.

But since "Im having trouble with the size thing" lets talk about it. This isn't about classifications, even though you want to go with it that way. County schools typically do have an overall advantage over independents because of SIZE. They get more money for their programs because of the number of kids attending that school. They do get more kids to choose from, adding talent and depth. So yeah it is a SIZE issue.

But your quote about Pineville in saying its easier for them to get to practice and play isn't a guarantee they'll be good, IS EXACTLY what I'm trying to get across to you, that Ind. schools are not at an advantage or county schools! IF they can just get kids to come to practice, but it doesn't guarantee success, then how is that an advantage? This is the only example that you have gave, so of course this is the only one I can really argue. You have still YET to provide any advantages that Independent schools have over County schools, other than they can get kids to practice easier because of the proximity or size of the district. Which you just said isn't a guarantee for success, so there is apparently no advantage to it. So, what are they? You've still not yet named any??

And the reason I put Bville in there is because they are an independent school. A school who cant even field a football team. But the COUNTY schools that surrounds them sure can. Lynn Camp, Knox central, etc. So all those kids who live real close to it that "have an easy time getting to practice" sure aint showing up?? Anyone would objectively say they are at a DISADVANTAGE compared to county schools overall.

But in the end, I can say the sky is pink, but if I don't provide any evidence to prove one way or another, I'm ultimately wrong. So please provide some evidence for your statement.

[Iam4thecats]

Nope, no trouble what so ever. You talk about guarantee's, well then, a winning record has nothing to do with it. A winning record isn't a guarantee either, so take all of them into account, since according to you they're all at a disadvantage. But we'll stay with your train of thought just for fun. Crittenden CO, winning record! Bracken Co., winning record! Lynn Camp, Phelps, Hazard, ALL HAVE WINNING RECORDS. Just because they don't have the word county behind them, doesn't mean they aren't county schools. They are, they are NOT independent. So, NO, wburg does not have an overall advantage over those schools. But since you are stuck on the "getting kids to play" I will say that would be the only advantage wburg has over any of those schools, and that's not even an advantage, because it doesn't guarantee anything.

But since "Im having trouble with the size thing" lets talk about it. This isn't about classifications, even though you want to go with it that way. County schools typically do have an overall advantage over independents because of SIZE. They get more money for their programs because of the number of kids attending that school. They do get more kids to choose from, adding talent and depth. So yeah it is a SIZE issue.

But your quote about Pineville in saying its easier for them to get to practice and play isn't a guarantee they'll be good, IS EXACTLY what I'm trying to get across to you, that Ind. schools are not at an advantage or county schools! IF they can just get kids to come to practice, but it doesn't guarantee success, then how is that an advantage? This is the only example that you have gave, so of course this is the only one I can really argue. You have still YET to provide any advantages that Independent schools have over County schools, other than they can get kids to practice easier because of the proximity or size of the district. Which you just said isn't a guarantee for success, so there is apparently no advantage to it. So, what are they? You've still not yet named any??

And the reason I put Bville in there is because they are an independent school. A school who cant even field a football team. But the COUNTY schools that surrounds them sure can. Lynn Camp, Knox central, etc. So all those kids who live real close to it that "have an easy time getting to practice" sure aint showing up?? Anyone would objectively say they are at a DISADVANTAGE compared to county schools overall.

But in the end, I can say the sky is pink, but if I don't provide any evidence to prove one way or another, I'm ultimately wrong. So please provide some evidence for your statement.

Good luck to Corbin.

[Hound05]

Good luck to Corbin.

Well thank you sir

[thsrocks]

Examples of independent school districts:

Eminence takes students from 7 counties. They have the room and offer a sound academic program. They are not strong athletically and choose to put more funding into diverse academic programs. They are leaders in education innovation.

Highlands is a slightly different story. Highlands has a system to choose who gets in. They are one of the wealthier and academically successful school districts with a very low poverty rate and few on reduced or free lunch programs. The Bluebirds due use resources to fuel high quality athletic programs as well as maintaining high academic standards.
The Bluebirds choose not to get larger. Highlands maintains their enrollment at 750-850 or so and have for thirty years.

[Jaguarhoundbird]

Don’t pay no mind to that. He has an obsession with other teams and their “alleged” recruiting. Half of his threads are about corbin doing the same thing. And we are a public school. Some covet what others have. Not saying he does. But he sure don’t make a good case for himself

When did Corbin switch from independent and become public? If that's the case they'll be in some major trouble, because 70% of the kids don't live in the school district. Lol. Heck, with the exception of one kid on the Corbin starting lineup in basketball should be going to other schools. 100% fact. "Public" schools can't do that. If you don't see an advantage there, you need to take off those rose colored glasses.