[EKUAlum05]

Great work PT!
Are you planning to put this info on a webpage when you are done?



Would love if someone could do a similar project for Belfry. Have always envied the schools that already have something like this like Highlands for example.

[PHSForever]

That is a 70.37% winning percentage all time. Geek. Well done, PT!

[Panther Thunder]

Great work PT!
Are you planning to put this info on a webpage when you are done?



Would love if someone could do a similar project for Belfry. Have always envied the schools that already have something like this like Highlands for example.

I would like to, yes. And I am weird with history and stats. I would like to be able to break it down by opponent, date, month, round of playoffs, home/away/neutral etc. etc..

Check your PM.

Patched in some 1943:

667-279-23

[Real Badman]

After checking an email, I have to update some of the 40's records.

New total: 665-278-22

Found the 1950 Whitesburg & 1947 Belfry scores.

New request: 1944 Belfry Score (doing a little digging, looks like Belfry may have stopped playing after four games)

Also, if anyone knows when Fleming became Fleming-Neon & Elkhorn became Elkhorn City.

Elkhorn City was called Cumberlands High School. I want to think the name change happened in 48

[eagles2011]

Why didn't paintsville tiger and pikeville play during 79 threw 81"

[PHSForever]

Why didn't paintsville tiger and pikeville play during 79 threw 81"

Pikeville was 2A during that time. Knowing how Brugh and Howard felt about each other, I'd say they didn't play because they didn't have to

[Panther Thunder]

Pikeville was 2A during that time. Knowing how Brugh and Howard felt about each other, I'd say they didn't play because they didn't have to

And, being frank, Pikeville didn't want much to do with Paintsville at that time. Why PHS was in AA. nicker:

I would like to know the reasoning behind the pause in the Belfry series from 1966-1977.

[PHSForever]

And, being frank, Pikeville didn't want much to do with Paintsville at that time. Why PHS was in AA. nicker:

I would like to know the reasoning behind the pause in the Belfry series from 1966-1977.

Lol! Very true. Paintsville was a darn good team then. As for the pause in the Pikeville-Belfry series, I seem to remember hearing some stories floating around about a very bad fight sometime around 65 or 66 that led to the series pause. My understanding was it was NOT a fight during a game. But happened downtown in Pikeville before or after a game is 65 maybe? Someone more ancient than me may have more details.

[HAIL PIKEVILLE!]

The 1994 Beechwood score is wrong. Final score was 16-23. Reason I know that is, we had it first and goal at the 3 with under 1:00 remaining and Beechwood was out of time outs. Me and my teammates were discussing whether Coach Howard would go for 2 after scored to take the lead or let Diego Ramos kick the PAT and play for OT. We also were talking about the Executive West in Lousiville and who we wanted to room with....Next thing we hear is "BALL! BALL! BALL!!!"......💔

[HAIL PIKEVILLE!]

Also the 1990 score against Virgie is incorrect, considering Virgie High School didn't exist in 1990. It was Shelby Valleys first year.

[HAIL PIKEVILLE!]

Great job though pt!!!

[Panther Thunder]

That is why I want to get more eyes on it lol. It will take time to perfect it, but the big thing is getting a foundation from which to start.

[Panther Thunder]

Also here is what the Courier-Journal has for Beechwood '94

[Panther Thunder]

Also the 1990 score against Virgie is incorrect, considering Virgie High School didn't exist in 1990. It was Shelby Valleys first year.

Fixed!

[HAIL PIKEVILLE!]

Also here is what the Courier-Journal has for Beechwood '94

I didn't even realize we got a safety in that game. I haven't watched film of it, nor do I have any desire to....

[MCMiner247]

PantherThunder, great stuff! Just realized after I typed everything up below that you had already communicated with my
good buddy Rick Baker. He has you guys at: (614-267-19) (.693%) BUT, looks like you've found some more pieces to the puzzle!

Also, EKU Alum, I've got Rick's entire belfry history. Email me at , [email]wwilson247@gmail.com[/email] and i'd be glad to shoot that your way.

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Per the original post;

-1925
9/19/25-At Logan,WV, 0-32, Loss
10/10/25-At Williamson, WV, 0-70, Loss
10/17/25-Chattaroy, WV, 26-0, Win

-1928
9/28/28-Belfry, 12-7, Win
10/6/28-At Van Lear, 0-7, Loss
10/13/28-At Jenkins, 6-6, Tie
10/20/28-Paintsville, 0-26, Loss
10/27/28-Matewan, WV, 31-26, Win
11/2/28-Prestonsburg, Unknown Score
11/10/28-At Chattaroy, WV, Unknown Score
11/17/28-Prestonsburg, Unknown Score

-1930
No Game Info

-1932
9/24/32-At Prestonsburg, 0-0, Tie
10/1/32-Belfry, 33-6, Win
10/8/32-At Paintsville, 0-19, Loss
10/15/32-At Millersburg Military Institute, 2-0, Win
10/29/32-At Van Lear, 33-0, Win
11/12/32-Prestonsburg, 26-0, Win
11/24/32-At Louisa, 0-31, Loss

-1943
9/24/43-Williamson, WV, 0-34, Loss
10/2/43-Grundy, VA, 7-9, Loss (Location Unknown)
10/22/43-Matewan, WV, 12-14, Loss

-1944
9/8/44-At Grundy, VA, 32-0, Win
Unknown Date-Russell, 6-7, Loss
9/22/44-At Williamson, WV, 0-19,Loss
10/12/44-At Matewan, WV, 24-6, Win

-1947
9/5/47-At Hazard, 6-6, Tie
9/12/47-Raceland, 0-0, Tie
9/26/47-Whitesburg, 6-0, Win
10/3/47-West Liberty, 39-0, Win
10/10/47-Matewan,WV, 26-0, Win
10/17/47-Prestonsburg, 7-13, Loss
10/25/47-At Fleming Neon, 35-0, Win
10/31/47-At Paintsville, 19-20, Loss
11/7/47-Belfry, Unknown Score
11/14/47-Lynch, 21-6, Win
11/21/47-Williamson, WV, 0-40, Loss

-1948
9/10/48-Belfry, 0-7, Loss (Location Unknown)
9/17/48-At Williamson, WV, 0-31, Loss
10/1/48-At West Liberty, 20-25, Loss
11/13/48-At Lynch, 14-20, Loss

-1950
9/9/50-Elkhorn City, 27-0, Win
9/16/50-At Wayland, 7-0, Win
9/22/50-At Whitesburg, Unknown Score, Loss
9/29/50-Hazard, 39-7, Win
10/6/50-Matewan,WV, 47-6, Win
10/13/50-At Prestonsburg, 6-7, Loss
10/20/50-Fleming Neon, 6-19, Loss
10/27/50-Painstville, 13-52, Loss
11/7/50-At Lynch, 0-37, Loss
11/10/50-At Williamson, WV, 12-7, Win
11/17/50-Belfry, 12-13, Loss

[Panther Thunder]

After a 7-Day Free Trial of Newspapers.com (which is an amazing resource for anyone considering doing something similar. The LCJ has just about everything).

I believe these are the few things I need to clear up or did clear up:

-The 1922 Score I found appears to have been a misprint. It should be a PINEVILLE score. So, Pikeville's 1925 Start is still accurate as far as I know.

-I feel confident that the last two scheduled games in pre-season schedule in 1928 were not played. An article stated the P'burg game would be the final of the season.

-I am fairly confident in saying Pikeville & Belfry did not play in 1944. It appears Belfry stopped playing after 4 games.

-In 1968, Hal Lockhart appears to have left before the season, so I am going under the assumption Gene Davis coached the team and have attributed that season's record to him.

-I just have a few score issues to check, most have been resolved.

-I feel 95% comfortable saying there are only 4 years that are incomplete:
-1925: Just tough to tell. Have 4 games on record. Will keep investigating. I would think we are missing no more than 5-6 games.
-1930: Have 2 games on record, an article from Louisa says "Previously unbeaten Pikeville, after the loss to Louisa on 11/22. Need to see if I can find anything else, or even a record before that game. I would say we are missing between 4-6 games based on playing 6 (scheduled for 8) in 1928 and playing 7 in 1931 and 1932. Played 8 in 33 & 34.
-1932: Only missing 1 thing. Need to find a Kermit, WV score for 10/22. I am leaning towards it was not played due to available information for every other game. So, only possibly missing 1 game.
-1943: Just not sure if everything is there. Papers were hit or miss. Have a record of 2-4-1, 7 games. Played 8-9 for the most of a large period sandwiching 1943. However, war times are different and maybe some schools did not field a team. For example: played Russell in 42 and 44, but not 43? Prestonsburg, Jenkins were the same way. Possible opponents on possible dates: Prestonsburg, Jenkins, Russell, Hazard on 9/2-3-4, 9/9-10-11, 9/16-17-18, 11/11-12-13. Like I said, may be complete, just would like to keep digging. Not missing more than 1 or 2 games if any.

So I can confidently account for 969 Games and we may be missing Low end 8 Games, High End 15 Games. In other words, we are between 99.18% and 98.47% of the way there.

[HAIL PIKEVILLE!]

after a 7-day free trial of newspapers.com (which is an amazing resource for anyone considering doing something similar. The lcj has just about everything).

I believe these are the few things i need to clear up or did clear up:

-the 1922 score i found appears to have been a misprint. It should be a pineville score. So, pikeville's 1925 start is still accurate as far as i know.

-i feel confident that the last two scheduled games in pre-season schedule in 1928 were not played. An article stated the p'burg game would be the final of the season.

-i am fairly confident in saying pikeville & belfry did not play in 1944. It appears belfry stopped playing after 4 games.

-in 1968, hal lockhart appears to have left before the season, so i am going under the assumption gene davis coached the team and have attributed that season's record to him.

-i just have a few score issues to check, most have been resolved.

-i feel 95% comfortable saying there are only 4 years that are incomplete:
-1925: Just tough to tell. Have 4 games on record. Will keep investigating. I would think we are missing no more than 5-6 games.
-1930: Have 2 games on record, an article from louisa says "previously unbeaten pikeville, after the loss to louisa on 11/22. Need to see if i can find anything else, or even a record before that game. I would say we are missing between 4-6 games based on playing 6 (scheduled for 8) in 1928 and playing 7 in 1931 and 1932. Played 8 in 33 & 34.
-1932: Only missing 1 thing. Need to find a kermit, wv score for 10/22. I am leaning towards it was not played due to available information for every other game. So, only possibly missing 1 game.
-1943: Just not sure if everything is there. Papers were hit or miss. Have a record of 2-4-1, 7 games. Played 8-9 for the most of a large period sandwiching 1943. However, war times are different and maybe some schools did not field a team. For example: Played russell in 42 and 44, but not 43? Prestonsburg, jenkins were the same way. Possible opponents on possible dates: Prestonsburg, jenkins, russell, hazard on 9/2-3-4, 9/9-10-11, 9/16-17-18, 11/11-12-13. Like i said, may be complete, just would like to keep digging. Not missing more than 1 or 2 games if any.

So i can confidently account for 969 games and we may be missing low end 8 games, high end 15 games. In other words, we are between 99.18% and 98.47% of the way there.

great job!!!

[PHSForever]

PantherThunder, great stuff! Just realized after I typed everything up below that you had already communicated with my
good buddy Rick Baker. He has you guys at: (614-267-19) (.693%) BUT, looks like you've found some more pieces to the puzzle!

Also, EKU Alum, I've got Rick's entire belfry history. Email me at , [email]wwilson247@gmail.com[/email] and i'd be glad to shoot that your way.

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Per the original post;

-1925
9/19/25-At Logan,WV, 0-32, Loss
10/10/25-At Williamson, WV, 0-70, Loss
10/17/25-Chattaroy, WV, 26-0, Win

-1928
9/28/28-Belfry, 12-7, Win
10/6/28-At Van Lear, 0-7, Loss
10/13/28-At Jenkins, 6-6, Tie
10/20/28-Paintsville, 0-26, Loss
10/27/28-Matewan, WV, 31-26, Win
11/2/28-Prestonsburg, Unknown Score
11/10/28-At Chattaroy, WV, Unknown Score
11/17/28-Prestonsburg, Unknown Score

-1930
No Game Info

-1932
9/24/32-At Prestonsburg, 0-0, Tie
10/1/32-Belfry, 33-6, Win
10/8/32-At Paintsville, 0-19, Loss
10/15/32-At Millersburg Military Institute, 2-0, Win
10/29/32-At Van Lear, 33-0, Win
11/12/32-Prestonsburg, 26-0, Win
11/24/32-At Louisa, 0-31, Loss

-1943
9/24/43-Williamson, WV, 0-34, Loss
10/2/43-Grundy, VA, 7-9, Loss (Location Unknown)
10/22/43-Matewan, WV, 12-14, Loss

-1944
9/8/44-At Grundy, VA, 32-0, Win
Unknown Date-Russell, 6-7, Loss
9/22/44-At Williamson, WV, 0-19,Loss
10/12/44-At Matewan, WV, 24-6, Win

-1947
9/5/47-At Hazard, 6-6, Tie
9/12/47-Raceland, 0-0, Tie
9/26/47-Whitesburg, 6-0, Win
10/3/47-West Liberty, 39-0, Win
10/10/47-Matewan,WV, 26-0, Win
10/17/47-Prestonsburg, 7-13, Loss
10/25/47-At Fleming Neon, 35-0, Win
10/31/47-At Paintsville, 19-20, Loss
11/7/47-Belfry, Unknown Score
11/14/47-Lynch, 21-6, Win
11/21/47-Williamson, WV, 0-40, Loss

-1948
9/10/48-Belfry, 0-7, Loss (Location Unknown)
9/17/48-At Williamson, WV, 0-31, Loss
10/1/48-At West Liberty, 20-25, Loss
11/13/48-At Lynch, 14-20, Loss

-1950
9/9/50-Elkhorn City, 27-0, Win
9/16/50-At Wayland, 7-0, Win
9/22/50-At Whitesburg, Unknown Score, Loss
9/29/50-Hazard, 39-7, Win
10/6/50-Matewan,WV, 47-6, Win
10/13/50-At Prestonsburg, 6-7, Loss
10/20/50-Fleming Neon, 6-19, Loss
10/27/50-Painstville, 13-52, Loss
11/7/50-At Lynch, 0-37, Loss
11/10/50-At Williamson, WV, 12-7, Win
11/17/50-Belfry, 12-13, Loss

I'm curious. You say you have Belfrys entire history. What is their won loss record? This has been a thread I've checked almost daily looking for updates because I love this history of the game. Much thanks to all those who've put in countless hours researching this. It's an act of love for school and game, that's fairly obvious.

[HAIL PIKEVILLE!]

1990- 9-4 (Yearbook has an error, Should be Evarts 8 Pikeville 7) (DISTRICT CHAMPIONS, REGION RUNNER-UP)
-8/25 Beechwood (H) L 13-27 (Pike County Bowl)
-8/31 Fleming-Neon (A) W 18-0
-9/7 Elkhorn City (A) W 26-0
-9/14 Shelby Valley (H) W 27-12
-9/21 Belfry (H) L 13-21
-9/28 Phelps (H) W 32-0
-10/5 Jenkins (A) W 34-6
-10/11 Paintsville (H) W 27-13
-10/19 Prestonsburg (A) W 41-21
-10/26 Johns Creek (H) W 42-8
-11/2 Raceland (A) L 21-41
-11/9 Lynn Camp (H) W 52-26 (1st Round Playoffs)
-11/16 Evarts (H) L 7-8 (2nd Round Playoffs, Region Championship)


1991- 14-1 (DISTRICT CHAMPIONS, REGION CHAMPIONS, STATE RUNNER-UP)
-8/31 Lincoln County (H) W 27-14 (Pike County Bowl)
-9/6 Elkhorn City (H) W 55-26
-9/13 Allen Central (A) W 78-0
-9/20 Wheelwright (A) W 47-6
-9/27 Belfry (A) W 41-7
-10/4 Phelps (A) W 50-14
-10/10 Jenkins (H) W 71-36
-10/18 Fleming-Neon (H) W 55-6
-10/25 Johns Creek (H) W 71-12
-11/1 Cawood (H) W 55-42
-Nov 8 Lynn Camp (H) W 25-0 (1st Round Playoffs)
-Nov 15 Hazard (H) W 62-11 (2nd Round Playoffs)
-Nov 22 Cumberland (A) W 22-7 (3rd Round Playoffs, Region Championship)
-Nov 29 Harrodsburg (A) W 50-21 (4th Round Playoffs, State Semis)
-Dec 6 Beechwood (at Louisville) L 6-34 (5th Round Playoffs, State Championship)


1992- 10-4 (REGION CHAMPIONS)
-8/29 Breathitt County (H) W 20-13 (Pike County Bowl)
-9/4 Elkhorn City (A) W 14-8
-9/11 Allen Central (H) W 61-8
-9/18 Wheelwright (H) W 20-12
-9/28 Belfry (H) L 6-34
-10/2 Phelps (H) W 28-6
-10/8 Jenkins (A) W 14-12
-10/16 Fleming-Neon (A) L 16-23
-10/23 Johns Creek (A) W 24-16
-10/30 Cawood (A) L 8-21
-11/6 Evarts (H) W 42-14 (1st Round Playoffs)
-11/13 Hazard (A) W 18-13 (2nd Round Playoffs)
-11/20 Cumberland (H) W 8-7 (3rd Round Playoffs, Region Championship)
-11/27 Beechwood (H) L 0-34 (4th Round Playoffs,State Semis)


1993- 12-2 (DISTRICT CHAMPIONS, REGION CHAMPIONS)
-8/28 Lexington Catholic W 26-13 (Pike County Bowl)
-9/3 Elkhorn City (H) W 58-19
-9/10 Allen Central (A) W 58-13
-9/24 Belfry (A) L 6-26
-9/28 South Floyd (A) W 61-0
-10/1 Phelps (A) W 61-12
-10/8 Jenkins (H) W 42-22
-10/15 Fleming-Neon (H) W 71-0
-10/22 Pike Central (H) W 43-14
-10/29 Shelby Valley (H) W 49-12
-11/5 Pineville (H) W 21-12 (1st Round Playoffs) (CHECK, PLAQUE SAYS 21-13)
-11/12 Cumberland (H) W 54-20 (2nd Round Playoffs)
-11/19 Hazard (A) W 25-18 (3rd Round Playoffs, Region Championship) (CHECKED, LCJ 25-18)
-11/26 Beechwood (A) L 13-38 (4th Round Playoffs, State Semis)


1994- 12-2 (DISTRICT CHAMPIONS, REGION CHAMPIONS)
-Aug 17 Prestonsburg (H) L 21-26
-Aug 24 OPEN
-Sep 2 Elkhorn City (A) W 56-8
-Sep 9 Allen Central (H) W 77-18
-Sep 15 South Floyd (H) W 64-6
-Sep 23 Belfry (H) W 42-47
-Sep 30 Phelps (H) W 57-12
-Oct 6 Jenkins (A) W 74-6
-Oct 14 Fleming-Neon (A) 70-6
-Oct 21 Lewis County (H) 69-0
-Oct 28 Shelby Valley (A) 63-14
-Nov 4 Harlan (H) W 49-12 (1st Round Playoffs)
-Nov 11 Evarts (H) W 20-0 (2nd Round Playoffs)
-Nov 18 Cumberland (H) W 42-0 (3rd Round Playoffs, Region Championship)
-Nov 25 Beechwood (H) L 17-23 (4th Round Playoffs, State Semis)

The '93 South Floyd score should be 81-0

[Panther Thunder]

The '93 South Floyd score should be 81-0

You are correct. Picture I had was blurry and looked like a 6 in stead on an 8. Saw LCJ had it as 81.

[Panther Thunder]

I will make a spreadsheet for the Belfry/Pikeville series.

A Rick Bentley Article from 2007 stated the first meeting was in 1949, and we now have more information, so any series record seems like it would be incomplete from that information.

I believe, excluding any games that may have been played in those years with incomplete information, the teams have played 68 times.

[RunItUpTheGut]

Exactly. Those numbers are incorrect. It is why there was confusion this year. I can give you a game by game of the wins I have tallied with scores and date and articles to go with 98% of them. Just trying to fill in the holes. Once we are satisfied with finding all we can find, we will turn over the information to the KHSAA so they can properly update the number. The important thing to me is not to account for something that is not there. If I cannot find a credible record of the game, I will not include it. My goal when I started back in the fall was to make sure Pikeville fans could have information available that is as honestly as accurate as possible with the disclaimer that new information could always change.

Even when presenting to the KHSAA, I will be sure we included that this are the Wins that can be accounted for and if any new information arises we can adjust according. Unfortunately, the local newspaper was very hit or miss for a long time, so this is not as simple as it may be in a town with a larger daily paper.

This is something that could have kept Pikeville off the all time wins list for years. Any school, especially older town schools, should do this research and make sure they get a correct number and send it in to the khsaa.
I would assume the schools were the ones that reported them and messed up to begin with since the KHSAA was even around back then.
Good work PT

[EKUAlum05]

Thanks to PT Sharing and the hard work done by the gentleman before him, I have organized the Belfry data

I have broken it down in Alphabetical Order by opponent and sub divided it into KY, WV, OH, TN, VA, and vs. Pike County teams

I am going to try to break it down further to get a picture of Haywood's career at Belfry, by Home vs. Road Records, record at CAM, Road Wins, Home Wins, Playoff History, etc

[Panther Thunder]

Thanks to PT Sharing and the hard work done by the gentleman before him, I have organized the Belfry data

I have broken it down in Alphabetical Order by opponent and sub divided it into KY, WV, OH, TN, VA, and vs. Pike County teams

I am going to try to break it down further to get a picture of Haywood's career at Belfry, by Home vs. Road Records, record at CAM, Road Wins, Home Wins, Playoff History, etc

That will be my favorite part. Breaking it all down at the end.

Fun fact, as far as I can tell, 2016 will be the first time PHS has played a team from Ohio. 2011 was the first season to play teams from Tennessee and North Carolina. Before that it was all KY, WV, & VA.

[bac2369]

Should get Swain back up on the schedule..

[Panther Thunder]

Should get Swain back up on the schedule..

1st game was a good test. Beaten thoroughly, but you could see chances to make it 34-14ish. Second time PHS didn't belong on the same field lol. Ironically, that Swain team did not win State as the previous year's team did.

[dodger]

The Williamson Daily News has 39-12 for the Wheelwright game on 8/31/84. The front page has the incorrect score from the AP wire, but there's a brief game recap in the sports section that gives 39-12 as the final. Google archives has the WDN from the 50's on as a free resource if you haven't checked that. https://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=o...page&hl=en

[MayfieldCardinal]

The National Record Book is maintained by the National Federation of State High School Associations and according to their records that would place Pikeville after confirmation of 665 wins at 7th in the state and 52 nationally. Here is #38 through #51 and it shows that Pikeville could move up the list quickly with continued success like we saw last season and give the team even more to shoot for.

698.0	Arcola	IL	(1894-2015, 698-331-40)
695.0	Thomasville	GA	(1910-2015, 695-330-46)
693.0	Philadelphia Central	PA	(1887-2015, 693-409-61)
690.0	Williamsport	PA	(1892-2015, 690-461-55)
690.0	Seminole	OK	(1912-2015, 690-346-34)
686.0	Martins Ferry	OH	(1907-2015, 686-363-36)
686.0	Omaha Creighton Prep	NE	(1893-2015, 686-218-23)
682.0	Philadelphia William Penn Charter	PA	(1887-2015, 682-363-53)
682.0	Fostoria	OH	(1896-2015, 682-447-42)
681.0	Greensburg Salem	PA	(1894-2015, 681-364-39)
677.0	Huntingdon	PA	(-2015, 677-359-39)
675.0	Dover	OH	(1896-2015, 675-352-44)
671.0	Somerset	KY	(1907-2015, 671-392-43)
666.0	Pottsville	PA	(-2015, 666-512-46)

[bac2369]

1st game was a good test. Beaten thoroughly, but you could see chances to make it 34-14ish. Second time PHS didn't belong on the same field lol. Ironically, that Swain team did not win State as the previous year's team did.

I thought they only played once. What years did they play?