[MayfieldCardinal]

Rodgers resigned today which is a surprise to me. Anyone have any details???

[Fly Like a Duck]

No real details to give. Just hit a point when he was ready to give it up for the time being. I don't know that he has anything lined up; he could, maybe not...but, from all I've gathered he was just ready to take this step.

[mysonis55]

I heard that the powers that be wanted him to change his offensive style. He is a wing tee guy through and through. I think they should have given the man a few more years. It may not be flashy but it will work. I just don't know what direction they will go now. Football seems to be losing its appeal at PT.

[Fly Like a Duck]

I heard that the powers that be wanted him to change his offensive style. He is a wing tee guy through and through. I think they should have given the man a few more years. It may not be flashy but it will work. I just don't know what direction they will go now. Football seems to be losing its appeal at PT.

The powers meaning the admin? I'd be interested to know because his principal seemed to be nothing but happy with him (not always the case, some just don't comment).

I get so sick of people (not you) thinking that if you aren't in the shotgun all the time these days then you automatically need to be checked for a lack of brain functioning. Truth be told, it shows their of understanding for the game.

There isn't enough time in the day to elaborate in how the world of 'Wing T' has evolved.....under center..gun...both....rpo's...you name it. It's stood the test of time and will continue to do so.

[Fly Like a Duck]

*lack of understanding of the game.

[mysonis55]

You know these things go in cycles. That's what not everyone figures out. The spread is king now until some defensive mind learns how to shut it completely down. But there will be a Buddy Ryan somewhere that will come up with the formula, I personally think I know one coach that has come real close to doing that already. Then you will see everyone jumping right back to the power running game. Rogers has a pretty impressive record from the time he started at Graves County until now. He took a school there that barely knew how to spell football and changed their mentality. He had a little help from the previous coach but he really got them to thinking they could play. Then he took WC and had them looking like the second best team in 5a for years, the only problem was that number 1 was from the same city. I'm sure he will be successful wherever he goes.

[groundattack]

Nothing to do with offense or his relationship with administration all of that was great. Don't think Mike was ready to get out there are just some things that he just wasn't going to battle. I commend him for doing what was best for him and his family.

[E's Army]

How many coaches in last ten years at PT

[Fly Like a Duck]

Three.

Perry Thomas
Randy Wyatt
Mike Rogers

[mysonis55]

Perry Thomas was a pretty good coach for them. I don't know why he left. It will be interesting to see what direction they take. It would be 2 steps backward to go back to Wyatt. A man that had the talent he had and couldn't beat the Cardinals is not worthy. How in the world he found ways to not win with the wealth of talent he had is beyond me.

[Real Badman]

Thomas became the Head Coach at Campbellsville University, and a dandy at that! Led the Tigers to MSC East Champions his first year.

[bac2369]

I'd say PT looking at a spread offense for the speed they have.

[blue55]

The statement I read was quite vague, never heard anyone complain about him or his offense. He didn't reach his personal goals while there and decided to let someone else take the reins. I assume his main goal was to 1 beat Mayfield, and 2 to get a state championship. He did not get either one, but he seemed to have them moving in the right direction. His record was 15 wins 10 loses, not good enough in his eyes.

[Jackson05]

I heard he got in a power struggle with Wyatt. Rogers didn't want to share players with track. He lost the power struggle and quit. Sounds far from admirable to me.

[Tica]

That is exactly what happened. Wyatt, or so the story goes, would not release his players for spring practice, even after Rogers agreed to just a few days on a limited basis. Rogers viewed this as a sleight. I know football players on the track team have done a limited spring practice in past years so I am not sure why it became such a big issue this year. Based on what I saw, Rogers did not exactly set the world on fire and his teams appeared to be just as mistake and penalty prone as in past years. I hear the kids liked him.

Guess it's time for the Steve Lovelace rumors to start. There is always drama around Tilghman football.

[Orange Blaze]

I heard he got in a power struggle with Wyatt. Rogers didn't want to share players with track. He lost the power struggle and quit. Sounds far from admirable to me.

From the perspective of the track coach I can see this as protecting your investment. Tilghman is a powerhouse program in KY track and field and it is understandable if a coach didn't want his(or her) potential state champion athletes risking an injury by participating in spring football.

[groundattack]

Again I wouldn't call it a win or lose situation. The only one that lost here are the kids, coaches should be able to work together. Oh well we will see how the new coach performs in the current climate!

[Tica]

I guess they do not have to worry about spring practice this year. It is a carnival of clowns over there. There is a reason that PT cant get 300 fans in the stands anymore. Until there is an alumni and community uprising, things will stay status quo.

[Fly Like a Duck]

I guess they do not have to worry about spring practice this year. It is a carnival of clowns over there. There is a reason that PT cant get 300 fans in the stands anymore. Until there is an alumni and community uprising, things will stay status quo.

The part about lack of fans is what's so disheartening about it all. Outside of Central Hardin and Mayfield this year, their home games were ghost towns and it's been that way for some time. Hoptown (County isn't much better) is another that's in the same boat. Two storied programs across all of the state and two of the best in WKY, yet here nobody shows up games.

[blue55]

Lots of competition for the entertainment dollar in Paducah and McCracken County on Friday Nights. Basketball also struggles to fill the gyms as well. When 50,000 people lived in the city limits it was a different story, same for Hopkinsville.

[Fly Like a Duck]

Lots of competition for the entertainment dollar in Paducah and McCracken County on Friday Nights. Basketball also struggles to fill the gyms as well. When 50,000 people lived in the city limits it was a different story, same for Hopkinsville.

Lots of competition in Owensboro/Daviess County, BG/Warren County, Elizabethtown/Hardin County, etc as well.

[Tica]

IMHO it does not have much to do with "entertainment dollars." On nights when Tilghman could not muster a crowd big enough to sink a pontoon boat, McCracken is nearly full and Mayfield is full. Lone Oak used to be standing room only on nights when PT had half a crowd if that. It has to do with supporting your school and in return, the program giving people a reason to come out and see exciting football.

[Ghostofjoey]

I have been to several Mayfield games, and the only full ones I've seen are the Graves games and sometimes the PT games.

And I have been to some of the 'big' games.

[RunItUpTheGut]

The powers meaning the admin? I'd be interested to know because his principal seemed to be nothing but happy with him (not always the case, some just don't comment).

I get so sick of people (not you) thinking that if you aren't in the shotgun all the time these days then you automatically need to be checked for a lack of brain functioning. Truth be told, it shows their of understanding for the game.

There isn't enough time in the day to elaborate in how the world of 'Wing T' has evolved.....under center..gun...both....rpo's...you name it. It's stood the test of time and will continue to do so.

An offensive scheme is only good so long as there not as better coach across the field running the defense.
Teams that took advantage of the spread and Franklin system a decade ago when everybody was still running the power game showed great success but only because nobody knew how to stop it. I remember when Irwin implemented at South Laurel in 03 and 04 and that was the best couple of years they ever had that I remember along with them throwing it all over the field in the late 90s with that good qb they had.
The spread is not nearly effective as it use to be with younger days coordinators coming along thay know how to coach a spy and cover two or dime. It's really not that big of a deal anymore. It's kind of evolved into putting the most athletic kid you got with an arm back there and letting him scramble. That seems to be the biggest thing now. And as expected defenses have been getting smaller and quicker especially on the line and it's slowed it down. Look for teams to go back big up front and run over those small defenses.
Football is an ever evolving game. No scheme will work perfect forever.

[hardcore1]

An offensive scheme is only good so long as there not as better coach across the field running the defense.
Teams that took advantage of the spread and Franklin system a decade ago when everybody was still running the power game showed great success but only because nobody knew how to stop it. I remember when Irwin implemented at South Laurel in 03 and 04 and that was the best couple of years they ever had that I remember along with them throwing it all over the field in the late 90s with that good qb they had.
The spread is not nearly effective as it use to be with younger days coordinators coming along thay know how to coach a spy and cover two or dime. It's really not that big of a deal anymore. It's kind of evolved into putting the most athletic kid you got with an arm back there and letting him scramble. That seems to be the biggest thing now. And as expected defenses have been getting smaller and quicker especially on the line and it's slowed it down. Look for teams to go back big up front and run over those small defenses.
Football is an ever evolving game. No scheme will work perfect forever.

I do believe that when Belfry had David Jones and Howard in the backfield they won two state titles vs. the System and actually Tony Franklin himself on the sideline for the opposing teams.

Yes spread utilizes speed but not all teams with speed need the spread to win. Belfry has shown dominance in their scheme. Louisville Central mixes the "I" in with their spread. Scott CO. has been very successful with the wing T. Meade Co uses the wing t. If given time with the same coaches, any scheme can work. The problem is if you don't win now in todays society, they want to blame the offensive scheme, or some other crazy non-sense. Folks need to realize that it takes time to implement everything and it is still about the Jimmy's and the Joes not the X's and O's.
Now as far as the track issue. That is petty on both parts and the kids lose out. Heck do it after track at the end of school. you get to pick your dates now. Also spring practice is over rated, you don't need it as much as we let n in this state. It is valuable don't get me wrong, BUT not to the point where kids are having to chose between the two.

[Fly Like a Duck]

It'll be interesting to see what happens with this job for a couple reasons:

1) Right or wrong, PT doesn't have the best of images right now or over the last several years.
2) Late opening. The later the openings, especially for this "big time" jobs, the better the chances for your dark horses that might not have a shot otherwise.

There have been a few coaches leave for other openings this year, but there hasn't been much involved with them on the "moving" side of things which is a bigger deal these days than I think most acknowledge.

1) Steve Stonebraker left J-town to go back to Casey County where he originally started out as a head coach & for legitimate family reasons (all good ones), he returned.
2) Josh Boston left Union County to go back to Henderson, but I believe he was/is still living in Henderson while driving over to Union County.
3) Jamie Egli left Nelson County for Montgomery County, but Egli has lived in Lexington all along.

I can't think of any others? The later it gets, the harder it gets for current head coaches to leave their current posts for a number of reasons, let alone get a house ready to sell and move. It'll be interesting to see how this one plays out.

[Brooks4Prez]

It'll be interesting to see what happens with this job for a couple reasons:

1) Right or wrong, PT doesn't have the best of images right now or over the last several years.
2) Late opening. The later the openings, especially for this "big time" jobs, the better the chances for your dark horses that might not have a shot otherwise.

There have been a few coaches leave for other openings this year, but there hasn't been much involved with them on the "moving" side of things which is a bigger deal these days than I think most acknowledge.

1) Steve Stonebraker left J-town to go back to Casey County where he originally started out as a head coach & for legitimate family reasons (all good ones), he returned.
2) Josh Boston left Union County to go back to Henderson, but I believe he was/is still living in Henderson while driving over to Union County.
3) Jamie Egli left Nelson County for Montgomery County, but Egli has lived in Lexington all along.

I can't think of any others? The later it gets, the harder it gets for current head coaches to leave their current posts for a number of reasons, let alone get a house ready to sell and move. It'll be interesting to see how this one plays out.

Very good points. There were 36 applicants the last time this job was open. It will be very interesting to see if they come close to or right at that number this time.

[blue55]

The McCracken County game fills both stadiums and the Old Lone Oak games drew big crowds when Lone Oak became competitive under Haskins. I go to Tilghman games when McCracken doesn't play at home or near by. The stands are empty at most games, it is just not the same atmosphere when the Band and Drill Corp use to come down the street next to the gym playing the Tilghman fight song my son says he still remembers the chills when we attend games from time to time now, but they no longer have Drill Corp and the band comes from behind the stadium is very small in numbers. The crowds were so large then that the Band and Drill Corp sat on the visitors side. If the Drill Corp did good Mrs. Gunter would run from the Home side around the end zone to congratulate them they stood and cheered most all the time as they seldom did poorly. The team had 75 to 100 players every year and beat Mayfield most years. Seldom had a poor record. Times have changed in the population of the school as the county has picked most of the residents.

[Tica]

You only have to look at the recurring basketball debacle and see that PT now accepts mediocrity. I thought Rogers was going to be the turnaround guy and he had the credentials to do it, but I suppose it takes time to correct bad habits and change a program's culture. I just did not see that he had yet turned the corner.

There is no doubt that year in and year out PT has the athletes. I am just speculating here with no inside information that you might see an area coach come out of retirement to take the helm.

[blue55]

I saw that area coach come out of retirement statement coming. That will not happen.