[RunItUpTheGut]

So far Trump has blown out the competition in Florida.

Congrats Kasich you've done what your puppet masters have told you to do and stayed in to win the only state you will win stripping Trump and Cruz of a chance to win the delegates from Ohio. Make no mistake, John Kasich is a moderate democrat and nothing else.

Rubio quits. Little Marco finally takes his ball and goes home.

Still to be decided in North Carolina, Missouri, and Illinois with Trump leading all.

[64SUR]

Kasich going to the dance. :welcome: back republican.....:Cheerlead:Cheerlead:Cheerlead

[RunItUpTheGut]

Kasich going to the dance. :welcome: back republican.....:Cheerlead:Cheerlead:Cheerlead

Kasich will not in anything.
The establishment will hope that Cruz and Kasich will stay in and garner enough delegates to get a convention. I don't see any scenario where Trump doesn't have the most delegates and the most popular vote. If they do not nominate him, they will lose half there voting base come November.

Im not sure where Cruz goes from here. He will not get enough delegates to secure the nomination and there is no way they will give him the convention. Its really a lose lose.

I only see three options remaining.

1. Trump secures

2. Trump wins the most delegates but gets screwed at the convention.

3. Trumps wins the most delegates and the Repubs wise up and give him the nomination.


In other words, its over. All that's left is whether or not the establishment tries to tell the majority of there voters to go screw themselves.

Wrap it up sally. Its time to dominate Bill Clintons wife like a Monica in the oval office.

[TheRealThing]

So far Trump has blown out the competition in Florida.

Congrats Kasich you've done what your puppet masters have told you to do and stayed in to win the only state you will win stripping Trump and Cruz of a chance to win the delegates from Ohio. Make no mistake, John Kasich is a moderate democrat and nothing else.

Rubio quits. Little Marco finally takes his ball and goes home.

Still to be decided in North Carolina, Missouri, and Illinois with Trump leading all.

It's doubtful that Kasich could have ever been elected Governor of Ohio if everybody didn't already know that. He gets up and says he is not an establishment politician, and he is a true conservative. :please:

He's speaking right now and I can't bear to listen to the warmed over rhetoric. He already said he was going to have a lot more to say about Trump after he thinks about it for a while. This guy loves himself, that's for sure.

I'd still rather have him than Hillary, but darn.

[RunItUpTheGut]

Lol having something to say about Trump didn't work out for Rubio did it.

[64SUR]

Kasich will not in anything.
The establishment will hope that Cruz and Kasich will stay in and garner enough delegates to get a convention. I don't see any scenario where Trump doesn't have the most delegates and the most popular vote. If they do not nominate him, they will lose half there voting base come November.

Im not sure where Cruz goes from here. He will not get enough delegates to secure the nomination and there is no way they will give him the convention. Its really a lose lose.

I only see three options remaining.

1. Trump secures

2. Trump wins the most delegates but gets screwed at the convention.

3. Trumps wins the most delegates and the Repubs wise up and give him the nomination.


In other words, its over. All that's left is whether or not the establishment tries to tell the majority of there voters to go screw themselves.

Wrap it up sally. Its time to dominate Bill Clintons wife like a Monica in the oval office.

I'm just thankful back in 2015 when I said Trump wouldn't make it to thanksgiving nobody didn't message me for a bet. So again thank Y'all :worthy::worthy::worthy: BINGO!!! :Cheerlead

[64SUR]

:rules: It takes 1237 delegates to win the republican nomination. :rules:

[TheRealThing]

Kasich will not in anything.
The establishment will hope that Cruz and Kasich will stay in and garner enough delegates to get a convention. I don't see any scenario where Trump doesn't have the most delegates and the most popular vote. If they do not nominate him, they will lose half there voting base come November.

Im not sure where Cruz goes from here. He will not get enough delegates to secure the nomination and there is no way they will give him the convention. Its really a lose lose.

I only see three options remaining.

1. Trump secures

2. Trump wins the most delegates but gets screwed at the convention.

3. Trumps wins the most delegates and the Repubs wise up and give him the nomination.


In other words, its over. All that's left is whether or not the establishment tries to tell the majority of there voters to go screw themselves.

Wrap it up sally. Its time to dominate Bill Clintons wife like a Monica in the oval office.

If we did not have a history of losers not graciously getting out of the way when during the primary it became obvious the people had made their choice, you'd have a mess like this every Presidential cycle. I mean when you lose it should be over.

Not this time, if I didn't know better I might think Kasich was really giving Trump a run for his money. Just a few minutes ago, he actually said he would win the nomination, and he knows he can't win, I mean math is his specialty, right? But, the guy finally won his first state tonight. Out of the 4 remaining contests he came in 3rd in 3, and 4th in the other. They're just trying to deny Trump the number of delegates he needs to win outright, I got no use for Kasich.

[RunItUpTheGut]

I'm not entirely sure why Kasich is running as a Republican. It wouldn't surprise me if him and Hillary were the same person.

[TheRealThing]

I'm not entirely sure why Kasich is running as a Republican. It wouldn't surprise me if him and Hillary were the same person.

When it comes to Hillary, I can't remember a public official who was so lacking in the ability to speak publicly. When she speaks it sounds like a put-on movie skit or something. You know that scene where the grand witch is proclaiming her manifesto to destroy the world?

Kasich knows he has achieved the dubious distinction of having survived as the last establishment also-ran standing. The fact that his performance in this election has been abysmal, obviously means nothing to him and gives a little insight into how these guys think. They don't go to DC to serve. They go there to govern the people and make them like it. I agree that it often takes a man of vision to be an effective and worthy President, such as JFK, or Reagan and his spin off beneficiary in the person of Bill Clinton. But Kasich's oft stated double down on what he did during the Clinton era as his main plan, is questionable at best. He worked for other people back then, he wasn't the Daddy of any of the success he claims.

Reagan's policies had already paved America's yellow brick road when Kasich served as a Congressman during the Clinton administration. It's one thing to sort and stack money that's already in the bank, or the US Treasury. It's something completely different for him to say he can do what Reagan did to bring us back to prosperity and get all the money in store. I frankly doubt it and Trump was right to point out that Ohio was saved by the fracking industry. You take the oil boom out of he equation and Ohio's fortunes would have been considerably more bleak.

Kasich will not invest the time or the money to revamp the Armed Services either.

[Stardust]

Several thousand registered democrats took Republican ballots to vote for Kasich. Sorry 64Sur, Kasich has ZERO chance of winning the election in his own house, much less getting enough ballots for the nomination!

[64SUR]

Several thousand registered democrats took Republican ballots to vote for Kasich. Sorry 64Sur, Kasich has ZERO chance of winning the election in his own house, much less getting enough ballots for the nomination!

Stardust I am 100% Democrat some of these posters has know ideal who they are voting for on the Repo side. I'm just trying to :help: them get a dance partner. :truestory:

[Granny Bear]

^
:lmao:

[TheRealThing]

Several thousand registered democrats took Republican ballots to vote for Kasich. Sorry 64Sur, Kasich has ZERO chance of winning the election in his own house, much less getting enough ballots for the nomination!

I had not heard that but I'm not at all surprised to hear that it happened. But it demonstrates what I have been saying about this primary cycle.

We started last summer with 17 Republican candidates for President. We've had debates and townhalls and speeches ad nauseam. And after enduring a nuclear fueled 24/7 news loop that absolutely, from their perspective, cannot ever overdo the coverage, we find ourselves down to one guy with a mathematical path to the nomination. Now, those who continue to insist that Trump is in some way an illegitimate front runner, they might want to consider the odds of that ever happening if the people were not voting for him. Especially when effort after effort after establishment scheme to derail his candidacy, have been launched almost daily. In this case we have seen the establishment reveal their true face and it's way uglier than we feared.

Kasich, is in it now to derail Trump. Marco fell on his sword because he lost Florida. Kasich is still in the race only because he is like the little leaguer who caught that grounder with his eyes closed. Somehow Ohio went to Kasich. But Kasich needs money despite his assurances to the contrary, and it should be interesting to see how the money is going to magically find it's way into his campaign fund. But from the way he acts when he speaks, one has to wonder why a guy who has basically done nada in this primary would feel so grandiose about his prospects to become President. Like I said, even he gets every one of the remaining delegates, he would still fall far short of the 1237 number he needs. If he stays through the whole thing until the convention, then by some miracle (with a little help) be could once again be standing in the right spot. Could it be that Republican kingmakers have told him the convention fix is in?

The people have very likely had it up their ears with the lies. The problem for Republicans is that the Dems were so good at it they used up all the slack the people were willing to suffer. In other words, the tolerance is gone. If they think people will get over it if they force somebody like Kasich on them, they're in for a very rude awakening. Or not, heck, it could be an intelligence issue.

[RunItUpTheGut]

Trump has them right where he wants them.

Kasich will not win another state. He may tae a few delegates but id be surprised if he even got the threshold for delegates in most other states.

Trump now has the ball in his court and will no longer debate which is smart since its him and Cruz.

You can love it or hate it, but Donald J Trump will be the republican nominee and the next president of the United States. I cannot wait for the liberals and RINOS to be completely deconstructed over the next eight years. To hell with all the politicians.
Hopefully this will open paths for real people to run for President. If the RINOS screw with this election, the republican party will split in two with more people leaving than staying over the course of the net decade.

[RunItUpTheGut]

Seen a good article on why Cruz should call Trump and ask for the vp spot.
That would be amazing. Leader of a Senate led by McConnell, all those vote added to trumps election results, seems like a win win if ted wants a shoe in for the next presidency

[TheRealThing]

Seen a good article on why Cruz should call Trump and ask for the vp spot.
That would be amazing. Leader of a Senate led by McConnell, all those vote added to trumps election results, seems like a win win if ted wants a shoe in for the next presidency

That might be the only way to save this debacle. The rumors coming out of DC right now are not good. Neither Trump or Cruz is acceptable to the establishment elite, they are therefore, looking to disenfranchise the millions of Americans who will have voted for them in this primary election. Initially erring in judgment in assuming they could 'sell' the people on Rubio, they've committed every conceivable dirty trick in the book to steal it from Trump. Incredibly, they hate Cruz more than Trump. Any other election year everybody except the front runner would be out by now, but Cruz and Kasich are determined to stay in.

Many who are in the know, believe that not only would Trump beat Clinton, he is likely the only candidate who could. If you've listened to Obama, Reid and Clinton lately, you haven't heard people who in any way think she won't be the nominee. Just going by the body language and the way they all act, she will get off. These guys are going to land on the Republican nominee like never before, and we all know lies don't mean a thing to them.

If Cruz and Kasich don't want to see Hillary in the White House again, Kasich needs to get out of the way and Cruz needs to read the writing on the wall, or the ballots. The best way to beat all in the secret society of political string pullers, is for Cruz to join with Trump. I'm certain that he doesn't want it that way, but it's time to see what is going on. If Cruz really wants to have a part in appointing Justices to the Court and beat back the liberal scourge, it's time for he and Trump to unite on one ticket. Separately they may both be vulnerable, but together not so much. It might be the only way for everybody to win. And Cruz would win the Presidency next time. If not, and these yoyo's parachute in their chosen nominee, it will be over. Hillary will likely win and we can kiss this great nation goodbye.

[RunItUpTheGut]

^
Whats funny is people don't realize all these RINOs keep talking there shat about Trump and how he will destroy the GOP and all this nonsense. Do they not see how he is dominating?????
Add Cruz to that, who they dislike just as much, if not more, and about 80% of republicans don't agree with the senators and other garbage men who get to go on tv and talk there trash.

Like you, ive watched the biggest liberal pieces of trash in Harry Reid and Schumer get up and talk about how because of Trump they will take the majority back. LOL. Its amazing they can keep a straight face. They are scared shitless of a Trump presidency. They know the RINOS are going to be able to get very little by Trump and that liberals don't even have half the chance they do to get anything done. Does he not see the Republican turnout compared to the socialist and liars followers?

They are scared TRT. That was our mission from the beginning and it has worked. It has shaken every politician in this country seeing the silent majority of Americans, Trump and Cruz supporters get the amount of numbers they have gotten. Lets hope this continues full force until every liberal, RINO, and career politician is eradicated from society.

[64SUR]

I'm beginning to think liberal are republican :lmao:

[Hoot Gibson]

I don't think either Rubio or Cruz will be on the ticket as Trump's VP. If Trump has to horse trade for delegates, then Kasich will be his VP pick.

[TheRealThing]

I don't think either Rubio or Cruz will be on the ticket as Trump's VP. If Trump has to horse trade for delegates, then Kasich will be his VP pick.

You're probably right. But such is the way when men put their own careers ahead of the common good. We need to do an awful lot of things differently, and we need to do them ASAP. I don't think Rubio would be a viable VP pick. I know he has been anointed by the king makers, but he's too green and it showed during the campaign. But that's not the reason he'd turn it down. He'd do that because despite all the patriotic rhetoric, he want's the top spot right now (like the establishment led him to believe he was going to get) and he's having a pity party. Kasich would, but a lack of personal integrity notwithstanding, he'd hold out till doomsday if he thought he had a usurping chance to come into the Oval Office sideways.

We can blame anybody imaginable for what is happening in this primary. But the blame lies with a bunch of narrow and pompous egotists and ideologue extremists, who think theirs' is to rule people. The walls are pressing in on folks and they're not going to allow smoke blowing and the coddling of special interests, which they have to pay for BTW, to pass for governance any longer. Not to mention our seriously eroded stature among the nations. Thus the people through their ballots have rejected them, and their response has been to go around the people with yet another backroom deal.

You know I've been saying that the voter has tremendous power, given to him in the form of the right to vote and select our leaders. If that process is stymied by some illegitimate last minute rules change or some other shenanigan, the Republican Party is toast. Finally, at long last they have an opportunity to realize the Big Tent agenda. And what are they doing with that opportunity other than rejecting it out of hand? According to bozos like Erick Erickson, a consensus party candidate should be 'selected.'

They need to take a really long look at how Obama has been acting in the last couple of days. Mocking and berating Republicans as idiots, while taking a bow for what he calls a 4.9 unemployment rate and a "buck eighty" gasoline. I mean, can you believe that guy? I can still remember clearly, the pain of putting over a hundred dollars worth of gas into my tank, it doesn't quite seem like the threat is gone forever to me. The only reason gas is anywhere near affordable is because of fracking. And his own EPA has already put the practice under great duress with the promise to totally outlaw fracking very soon. We will yet bleed out the ears for what is yet to come from this administration, and the Republicans are acting like total morons and selling out the very ones who swept them into office. :HitWall:

[Hoot Gibson]

You're probably right. But such is the way when men put their own careers ahead of the common good. We need to do an awful lot of things differently, and we need to do them ASAP. I don't think Rubio would be a viable VP pick. I know he has been anointed by the king makers, but he's too green and it showed during the campaign. But that's not the reason he'd turn it down. He'd do that because despite all the patriotic rhetoric, he want's the top spot right now (like the establishment led him to believe he was going to get) and he's having a pity party. Kasich would, but a lack of personal integrity notwithstanding, he'd hold out till doomsday if he thought he had a usurping chance to come into the Oval Office sideways.

We can blame anybody imaginable for what is happening in this primary. But the blame lies with a bunch of narrow and pompous egotists and ideologue extremists, who think theirs' is to rule people. The walls are pressing in on folks and they're not going to allow smoke blowing and the coddling of special interests, which they have to pay for BTW, to pass for governance any longer. Not to mention our seriously eroded stature among the nations. Thus the people through their ballots have rejected them, and their response has been to go around the people with yet another backroom deal.

You know I've been saying that the voter has tremendous power, given to him in the form of the right to vote and select our leaders. If that process is stymied by some illegitimate last minute rules change or some other shenanigan, the Republican Party is toast. Finally, at long last they have an opportunity to realize the Big Tent agenda. And what are they doing with that opportunity other than rejecting it out of hand? According to bozos like Erick Erickson, a consensus party candidate should be 'selected.'

They need to take a really long look at how Obama has been acting in the last couple of days. Mocking and berating Republicans as idiots, while taking a bow for what he calls a 4.9 unemployment rate and a "buck eighty" gasoline. I mean, can you believe that guy? I can still remember clearly, the pain of putting over a hundred dollars worth of gas into my tank, it doesn't quite seem like the threat is gone forever to me. The only reason gas is anywhere near affordable is because of fracking. And his own EPA has already put the practice under great duress with the promise to totally outlaw fracking very soon. We will yet bleed out the ears for what is yet to come from this administration, and the Republicans are acting like total morons and selling out the very ones who swept them into office. :HitWall:

A Trump running mate needs to be willing and able to lie with a straight face because he or she will constantly be asked to comment on what Trump has just said. Hillary would be perfect for the position, but she already has a gig.

Seriously, a VP candidate should share most of the top candidate's vision and principles. Hillary and the media would use Cruz's conservatism to create problems for both Trump and Cruz. Cruz is not going to toss out his principles to be the VP in the administration of a populist or a liberal, nor should he. Trump needs a more malleable VP like Christie or Kasich.

[TheRealThing]

A Trump running mate needs to be willing and able to lie with a straight face because he or she will constantly be asked to comment on what Trump has just said. Hillary would be perfect for the position, but she already has a gig.

Seriously, a VP candidate should share most of the top candidate's vision and principles. Hillary and the media would use Cruz's conservatism to create problems for both Trump and Cruz. Cruz is not going to toss out his principles to be the VP in the administration of a populist or a liberal, nor should he. Trump needs a more malleable VP like Christie or Kasich.

I believe a VP should help to moderate the President. Biden was supposed to take the wild eyed liberal edge off Obama. Lyndon Baines Johnson was supposed to mitigate JFK's inexperience, Paul Ryan was supposed to bring fiscal lucidity to the Romney ticket.

Trump's stated intentions are to return the country to ideals and values of the past. I agree with him on several of his points of view. Take NAFTA for example along with the enhanced threat of TPP. We have come from the glory days of Reagan-Clinton to the days of everything having a stamp on it that says made in China or Mexico and ghost towns on the order of Detroit, Michigan. Again, I was there and I saw it happen. He is right about the trade imbalance and the anorexic state of our military. He is right about border control and the destructive affects of untold millions of illegal aliens. And, he is certainly right about the abject stupidity of political correctness.

I don't quite see how a return to the traditional way of doing things of the past makes Trump a populist. People have tried drinking the liberal monkey puke and guess what? It really does taste like puke. We tried it 'their way' and what looked to be ridiculous ill conceived in theory, turned out to be even worse in practice. Everybody wants to get rid of the insanity now and if that is populism I suppose I am as guilty as the rest.

[WideRight05]

Assuming Trump hangs on to his lead, I honestly don't see how he could pick anybody other than Cruz to be his VP. There isn't one other candidate that sees eye to eye with Trump on immigration. I know their relationship has been damaged heavily the past couple of months, but Trump's main issue is immigration and I just can't see him choosing one of the many Republicans that have such a weak record on it.

[Hoot Gibson]

I believe a VP should help to moderWBte the President. Biden was supposed to take the wild eyed liberal edge off Obama. Lyndon Baines Johnson was supposed to mitigate JFK's inexperience, Paul Ryan was supposed to bring fiscal lucidity to the Romney ticket.

Trump's stated intentions are to return the country to ideals and values of the past. I agree with him on several of his points of view. Take NAFTA for example along with the enhanced threat of TPP. We have come from the glory days of Reagan-Clinton to the days of everything having a stamp on it that says made in China or Mexico and ghost towns on the order of Detroit, Michigan. Again, I was there and I saw it happen. He is right about the trade imbalance and the anorexic state of our military. He is right about border control and the destructive affects of untold millions of illegal aliens. And, he is certainly right about the abject stupidity of political correctness.

I don't quite see how a return to the traditional way of doing things of the past makes Trump a populist. People have tried drinking the liberal monkey puke and guess what? It really does taste like puke. We tried it 'their way' and what looked to be ridiculous ill conceived in theory, turned out to be even worse in practice. Everybody wants to get rid of the insanity now and if that is populism I suppose I am as guilty as the rest.

Cruz is not a liberal or a populist and Trump is not a conservative. Oil and water.

Place yourself in Cruz's shoes. Trump accused GWB of lying to persuade Congress to go along with the Iraq War. A couple of nights ago, Bill O'Reilly asked him about it. Trump said that he never accused Bush of lying. Knowing that Trump did accuse Bush of lying during the SC debate, and knowing that it is on YouTube, if you were Cruz and were asked if Trump lied, how would you answer a question from the media, "Did Trump lie?" Would you lie for him? Say that he misspoke? Tell the reporter to ask Trump? There is no good way to handle that situation. Whoever might run with Trump, they had better be great at deflecting questions.

I believe Cruz and Rubio when they say that they believe a Trump nomination would be a disaster for the country. I think that they are too smart to knowingly board a doomed ship. A VP, no matter how smart, cannot do much to mitigate the damage of a bad president does, but he well share the blame.

I have been fortunate to have worked most of my life for people who I trusted and respected. The rare times that I worked for people who I did not trust and could not respect made me miserable.

Cruz and Rubio do not like, respect, or trust Trump. It's easy for people to say that they should set aside their personal feelings toward Trump for the good of the country, but they would not have to work with him.

If Cruz does end up on a Trump ticket, I will lose a lot of respect for him, but I just don't see it happening. I would be less surprised to see Rubio on the ticket, but I doubt that well happen either.

[WideRight05]

Cruz is not a liberal or a populist and Trump is not a conservative. Oil and water.

Place yourself in Cruz's shoes. Trump accused GWB of lying to persuade Congress to go along with the Iraq War. A couple of nights ago, Bill O'Reilly asked him about it. Trump said that he never accused Bush of lying. Knowing that Trump did accuse Bush of lying during the SC debate, and knowing that it is on YouTube, if you were Cruz and were asked if Trump lied, how would you answer a question from the media, "Did Trump lie?" Would you lie for him? Say that he misspoke? Tell the reporter to ask Trump? There is no good way to handle that situation. Whoever might run with Trump, they had better be great at deflecting questions.

I believe Cruz and Rubio when they say that they believe a Trump nomination would be a disaster for the country. I think that they are too smart to knowingly board a doomed ship. A VP, no matter how smart, cannot do much to mitigate the damage of a bad president does, but he well share the blame.

I have been fortunate to have worked most of my life for people who I trusted and respected. The rare times that I worked for people who I did not trust and could not respect made me miserable.

Cruz and Rubio do not like, respect, or trust Trump. It's easy for people to say that they should set aside their personal feelings toward Trump for the good of the country, but they would not have to work with him.

If Cruz does end up on a Trump ticket, I will lose a lot of respect for him, but I just don't see it happening. I would be less surprised to see Rubio on the ticket, but I doubt that well happen either.

I wonder if Rubio is going to exit politics altogether. He announced that he is going to continue on as a "private citizen." He's not even going to run for his Senate seat again.

[TheRealThing]

Assuming Trump hangs on to his lead, I honestly don't see how he could pick anybody other than Cruz to be his VP. There isn't one other candidate that sees eye to eye with Trump on immigration. I know their relationship has been damaged heavily the past couple of months, but Trump's main issue is immigration and I just can't see him choosing one of the many Republicans that have such a weak record on it.

Wide you have been right on several things and I meant to make mention of them. Most notably is your observation about how far gone our culture actually is. Most people make a vast underestimation with regard to the preserving influence this land has impacted upon the world. As at one time we made no excuse for our love of The One true God, and our intention to serve and honor Him in our dealings with other nations, we have since laid down our banner and joined with those who oppose us. We have lost our minds and our way, and aspiring downward as of late, we are paying the price both domestically and globally. The accelerated pace of the madness is largely because of the darkness of Mr Obama's mind and his bent to knock the US off it's highhorse IMHO.

In Europe we have historical accounts of the peoples of various nations embracing their own commonality. England comes to mind, as the masses loved to make fun of the uppity attitudes of the upper class or the do-gooders and their affinity for morality. We have seen that happen in this country as those who openly solicit any kind of sexual advance they can dream up while reviling and rejecting the tenets of Christianity are literally on every hand. In other words Americans are moving ever closer to a state of reprobation. The truth is therefore despised while the lie is celebrated. That even though as in the day of Noah, judgment in the form of flood waters are already starting to rise around us.

That brings us to all the bloviating with regard to this election cycle. We're in the fight of our lives and in my mind the last thing any of us should do, is to allow the same people who brought us the present state of deprivation to define our choices for us. At some point a man has to trust his own heart and ability to make choices for himself. And a little secret about that is that no matter what choice you make, you'll get howling disapproval, in equal amounts, from one side or the other. Therefore my choice is built on what I know to be morally right in the eyes of God.

[TheRealThing]

Cruz is not a liberal or a populist and Trump is not a conservative. Oil and water.

Place yourself in Cruz's shoes. Trump accused GWB of lying to persuade Congress to go along with the Iraq War. A couple of nights ago, Bill O'Reilly asked him about it. Trump said that he never accused Bush of lying. Knowing that Trump did accuse Bush of lying during the SC debate, and knowing that it is on YouTube, if you were Cruz and were asked if Trump lied, how would you answer a question from the media, "Did Trump lie?" Would you lie for him? Say that he misspoke? Tell the reporter to ask Trump? There is no good way to handle that situation. Whoever might run with Trump, they had better be great at deflecting questions.

I believe Cruz and Rubio when they say that they believe a Trump nomination would be a disaster for the country. I think that they are too smart to knowingly board a doomed ship. A VP, no matter how smart, cannot do much to mitigate the damage of a bad president does, but he well share the blame.

I have been fortunate to have worked most of my life for people who I trusted and respected. The rare times that I worked for people who I did not trust and could not respect made me miserable.

Cruz and Rubio do not like, respect, or trust Trump. It's easy for people to say that they should set aside their personal feelings toward Trump for the good of the country, but they would not have to work with him.

If Cruz does end up on a Trump ticket, I will lose a lot of respect for him, but I just don't see it happening. I would be less surprised to see Rubio on the ticket, but I doubt that well happen either.

Okay but Trump is no populist by definition. And again, you I nobody, can categorically exclude Trump's intent to govern from the conservative view.

[TheRealThing]

Assuming Trump hangs on to his lead, I honestly don't see how he could pick anybody other than Cruz to be his VP. There isn't one other candidate that sees eye to eye with Trump on immigration. I know their relationship has been damaged heavily the past couple of months, but Trump's main issue is immigration and I just can't see him choosing one of the many Republicans that have such a weak record on it.

That's the point. Anything short of a Trump Cruz ticket invites a heavy dose of political anarchy. And the disenfranchisement of many millions of voters.

[Hoot Gibson]

Okay but Trump is no populist by definition. And again, you I nobody, can categorically exclude Trump's intent to govern from the conservative view.

Which is more rational, believing that a person will act in the future the way that they have acted in the past or that they will act in the future in accordance with campaign promises that contradict their past behavior?

Only four years ago, Trump was criticizing Romney for being mean-spirited toward illegal immigrants. Trump supporters who believe that Trump will round up illegal aliens and deport them are just fooling themselves.

Definition of populist (Merriam Webster)
1: a member of a political party claiming to represent the common people; especially often capitalized : a member of a United States political party formed in 1891 primarily to represent agrarian interests and to advocate the free coinage of silver and government control of monopolies

2: a believer in the rights, wisdom, or virtues of the common people