[TheRealThing]

"Now, there you go again.". Congratulations on your passport and in your travels by which you gained expertise in the cultures and peoples of foreign lands.

Or instead of deflecting the thrust of the argument to my storied and traveled past, you might revisit your analysis. In which you suggest, albeit in vagueries, that the Lord is going to help minorities get even with white people by, flipping the playing field.

[The Urban Sombrero]

LOL, let me help you a bit here. You did that when you drew the link between the hyper religious leaders who persecuted Jesus and the good folks of the Bible Belt.

Negative...the comparison is between the spirit of the two, not a suggestion that America is a second Israel. The United States was not conceived of as a theocracy. In fact, Roger Williams' deep conviction in the area of freedom of conscience is a significant influence upon our Constitution.

[TheRealThing]

Negative...the comparison is between the spirit of the two, not a suggestion that America is a second Israel. The United States was not conceived of as a theocracy. In fact, Roger Williams' deep conviction in the area of freedom of conscience is a significant influence upon our Constitution.

Nope, you're not getting away with it this time old friend. And your conflating what was said. You drew a common distinction between the religious elite of Jesus' day with Bible Belters. Then you tried to haze me with the second Israel stuff, which, who knows what that really means? Notwithstanding, the two are mutually exclusive groups. The religiously elite of Jerusalem rejected Jesus, right? While Bible Belters have bowed before Him in repentance and have called Him Lord. Hardly fodder to open yet another debate front concerning something about a second Israel.

[The Urban Sombrero]

Or instead of deflecting the thrust of the argument to my storied and traveled past, you might revisit your analysis. In which you suggest, albeit in vagueries, that the Lord is going to help minorities get even with white people by, flipping the playing field.

"The Great Reversal" has nothing to do with your nonsense mischaracterization. The least, the last, the lost, those having known nothing on this earth but the world at its worst...not some settling of racial scores. I used slavery and Jim Crow laws only to illustrate points about the limits of textualism in addressing gross injustice and inequality, not to suggest that somehow Anglo- Saxons are more wicked than all others.

[TheRealThing]

"The Great Reversal" has nothing to do with your nonsense mischaracterization. The least, the last, the lost, those having known nothing on this earth but the world at its worst...not some settling of racial scores. I used slavery and Jim Crow laws only to illustrate points about the limits of textualism in addressing gross injustice and inequality, not to suggest that somehow Anglo- Saxons are more wicked than all others.

And blest are the poor versus woe unto the rich and flipping the field, what was that all about the then.

[TheRealThing]

"The Great Reversal" has nothing to do with your nonsense mischaracterization. The least, the last, the lost, those having known nothing on this earth but the world at its worst...not some settling of racial scores. I used slavery and Jim Crow laws only to illustrate points about the limits of textualism in addressing gross injustice and inequality, not to suggest that somehow Anglo- Saxons are more wicked than all others.

LOL, can we get a mod to put up a poll on who's putting out mischaracterizations please?

[The Urban Sombrero]

Nope, you're not getting away with it this time old friend. And your conflating what was said. You drew a common distinction between the religious elite of Jesus' day with Bible Belters. Then you tried to haze me with the second Israel stuff, which, who knows what that really means? Notwithstanding, the two are mutually exclusive groups. The religiously elite of Jerusalem rejected Jesus, right? While Bible Belters have bowed before Him in repentance and have called Him Lord. Hardly fodder to open yet another debate front concerning something about a second Israel.

They may have bowed and called him "Lord," but not all who say "Lord, Lord" actually build on rock. The spirit of the Pharisees lives in every age.

[The Urban Sombrero]

My understanding is a huge crowd screamed, "Give us Barabbas."

[The Urban Sombrero]

LOL, can we get a mod to put up a pole on who's putting out mischaracterizations please?

How does one "pole" a group?

[The Urban Sombrero]

"Take a poll"... What is Donald Trump doing on BGR?

[TheRealThing]

How does one "pole" a group?

Hey, you got me. I typo'd

[The Urban Sombrero]

Hey, you got me. I typo'd

It was a joke. I realize you can distinguish between "pole" and "poll," and even if you couldn't, it would not sway the debate in my favor.

[The Urban Sombrero]

You are, of course, correct. I will now rest my case and close my part of this discussion by wishing everyone the blessings of God and the wisdom to put His plan above the often amoral partisan political philosophies of some.

As a boxer, at the end of a fight, who raises his arms to the crowd, posturing victory, though his celebratory gesticulations matter not in the least to the good judge.

[64SUR]

"Take a poll"... What is Donald Trump doing on BGR?

Sombrero none of these guys want to know. They bounce from one candidate to another each week. Like I do in football and basketball :truestory:

[Granny Bear]

^^
Hey! Donald Trump is my cousin!

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[TheRealThing]

^^ Flyover. nicker:

[TheRealThing]

As a boxer, at the end of a fight, who raises his arms to the crowd, posturing victory, though his celebratory gesticulations matter not in the least to the good judge.

Oh common, Truth's posts are sage and grounded in the field of law. You were somewhat gracious with me in saying you enjoyed an analysis. Surely he deserves as much?

[Demarcus ware]

Sombrero none of these guys want to know. They bounce from one candidate to another each week. Like I do in football and basketball :truestory:

Not me. I'm voting Trump unless he don't get the nod, in which case i will then vote for Sanders/Clinton. Because sometimes you just have to burn the village down to save it nicker:

[Hoot Gibson]

I was for Cruz at least a year before he announced that he was running. He is the best Republican candidate to come along since Reagan..

I think the fact that many people are having difficulty choosing between Trump and Sanders should set off buzzer and flashing lights in the brains of conservatives.

Wait until the judge sets the trial date for the fraud trial against Trump and Trump University (Trump's lawyers are trying to get it delayed until after July). I suspect that Cruz will hit Trump's business record and the fraud allegations hard before the winner-take all primaries start.

Regardless of the results of the primaries, I will support Cruz. Under no circumstances will I be voting for a socialist, a woman who should be in jail, or a complete fraud.

[The Urban Sombrero]

Oh common, Truth's posts are sage and grounded in the field of law. You were somewhat gracious with me in saying you enjoyed an analysis. Surely he deserves as much?

Absolutely...spirited debate about the Constitution is good for democracy and "Truth" is devoted to that which he believes. The "boxer" thing is all in good fun.

[64SUR]

I was for Cruz at least a year before he announced that he was running. He is the best Republican candidate to come along since Reagan..

I think the fact that many people are having difficulty choosing between Trump and Sanders should set off buzzer and flashing lights in the brains of conservatives.

Wait until the judge sets the trial date for the fraud trial against Trump and Trump University (Trump's lawyers are trying to get it delayed until after July). I suspect that Cruz will hit Trump's business record and the fraud allegations hard before the winner-take all primaries start.

Regardless of the results of the primaries, I will support Cruz. Under no circumstances will I be voting for a socialist, a woman who should be in jail, or
a complete fraud.

Hoot I hate to bust your bubble but don't you haveto be born in America before you run for president. Go Canada :Cheerlead

[Hoot Gibson]

Hoot I hate to bust your bubble but don't you haveto be born in America before you run for president. Go Canada :Cheerlead

No. You have to be a natural born citizen. Ted Cruz was a citizen the moment that he was born to an American born U.S. citizen. To believe otherwise is just wishful thinking on the part of liberal Democrats like Trump.

[The Urban Sombrero]

No. You have to be a natural born citizen. Ted Cruz was a citizen the moment that he was born to an American born U.S. citizen. To believe otherwise is just wishful thinking on the part of liberal Democrats like Trump.

I sort of think Donald Trump is morphing more and more each day into a populist conservative. I kind of think, raised by a sort of austere business type, that Trump really feeds off the enthusiasm and warmth from his supporters. Were he to be elected, and that is much less far fetched an idea than it was six months ago, I really believe he would govern as a populist conservative. And I really struggle to believe I am typing this.

[Hoot Gibson]

Trump is as conservative as he has to be to get votes. If the situation demands it, he will be as liberal as he has to be to get votes. It is all about the Trump brand.

Thomas Sowell has said that if you want to help a man, you tell him the truth but if you want to help yourself, you tell him what he wants to hear.

[Granny Bear]

Hoot I hate to bust your bubble but don't you haveto be born in America before you run for president. Go Canada :Cheerlead

Well, Barry proved your point, didn't he?
Go Kenya


Question for you SUR......lots of conspiracy theories out there about Scalia's death...no autopsy, found with a pillow over his head, etc etc.

Do you think he may have seen the Marfa lights?

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[TheRealThing]

Trump is as conservative as he has to be to get votes. If the situation demands it, he will be as liberal as he has to be to get votes. It is all about the Trump brand.

Thomas Sowell has said that if you want to help a man, you tell him the truth but if you want to help yourself, you tell him what he wants to hear.

Trump wants to help the country. He sees the slide and like the rest of us he is not ready to accept defeat.

It's true Trump was a Democrat and its true he once espoused liberal positions. However, it is also true that the Democrat Party has fallen into the hands of liberal/progressives. Thus Democrats no longer represent the interests of all the people. Rather, they represent only the special interests of minorities and those with an ax to grind. The condition of our nation reflects this as while our enemies crowd in on us with weapons bared, the self absorbed and the selfish all with a gripe or an issue to air, have their hands stuck out. And so, 'for hire' Dems are available to do the bidding of 'for sale' voters who bring nothing to the table but demands. Of course as I said, these demands have been provided for under the founders vision of equality of opportunity. But then, we're talking about getting up with the chickens and going to work everyday in order to earn one's way. That will not happen because we've already trained them to stay home and look to government handouts. In short, Democrats were subject to a hostile takeover by outside forces which have completely redefined them. Their new mission is to change the US into La-La Land.

I therefore can readily accept that once a Democrat who happens to be a man like Donald Trump who, goes out into this world and makes his mark with a certain zeal, could well have had an awakening to the truth. I know I did. And I could see where such an awakening could be both sweeping and sudden.

Donald is a typical New Yorker, a bit gruff and a bit plain spoken. He is none the less in the conservative's corner these days, and I believe him. In my mind we have two excellent choices then for President before the list then slides into also-ran territory. Cruz and Trump. And it is Trump who has framed the issues in plain spoken terms that I believe has given rise to whatever level of courage the rest of them have shown in this primary season.

Here's to a genuine awakening of "the people" whose voices will be heard this cycle.

[Hoot Gibson]

It seems like it was only a few days ago that Trump was blaming GWB for the 9/11 attacks and accusing Bush of lying about WMD to justify a war against Iraq. Has it been a week yet since he defended Planned Parenthood because of all the good work that group of baby butchers does? Those used to be liberal Democrat positions and in my opinion, they still are.

[TheRealThing]

It seems like it was only a few days ago that Trump was blaming GWB for the 9/11 attacks and accusing Bush of lying about WMD to justify a war against Iraq. Has it been a week yet since he defended Planned Parenthood because of all the good work that group of baby butchers does? Those used to be liberal Democrat positions and in my opinion, they still are.

Certainly they are. And I don't know if it is even feasible to think one can clean up what goes on at Planned Parenthood. What Trump is saying is apart from the butchery and bad council, some good things are done there. I think they should be shut down and I think ObamaCare rendered them a redundant agency. He's wrong about that one probably.

[The Urban Sombrero]

It seems like it was only a few days ago that Trump was blaming GWB for the 9/11 attacks and accusing Bush of lying about WMD to justify a war against Iraq. Has it been a week yet since he defended Planned Parenthood because of all the good work that group of baby butchers does? Those used to be liberal Democrat positions and in my opinion, they still are.

If I hate abortion, and PP offers that service, but then PP offers other services to women that are very generic in their benefit to women (meaning all would agree they are a help), does my hatred of the one service invalidate all the others? Or, is that an obvious logical fallacy and example of painting with too broad a brush?

[The Urban Sombrero]

Justice Scalia lying in repose is on CSPAN....seems like the artist's painting of him would be at head of casket.