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06-14-2015, 03:35 AM
Lets talk about an issue. Before you automatically label me an idiot, try taking a chance of looking at things from a different perspective. Lets talk about the issue of equal access for home school/private school students. This has came up at least twice as a proposed bill in the state of Kentucky, and there is already some sort of law relating to this in over half of US states.
However, even this year, when Representative Stan Lee proposed the bill, it was immediately shot down. From my perspective, as a student of a private school in Bell County which does not offer high school sports, this was very saddening.
One of the first things you will hear from most people is "If you are too good for our schools, you are too good for our sports". It drives me insane when I hear this. It's not an issue of being "too good". Most of the people I hang out with are public schools kids. The issue is, whether you know it or not, 1 in 4 high school graduates from public schools in Kentucky are ready for college. Add that in with a drug infected horrible atmosphere, and you have a place where many students do not want to be.
But many of us still love sports, and want the ability to play them like everyone else. I averaged 20 points a game this past season in 8th grade at Gateway Christian School. I had several high schools wanting me to play for them, but could not.
I know there is nothing any of you can do about it, I just wanted to complain about it somewhere, and I thought this would be as good of a place as anywhere. Hopefully sometime before I am a senior I can play high school basketball. Until then, guess I will only be playing AAU.
However, even this year, when Representative Stan Lee proposed the bill, it was immediately shot down. From my perspective, as a student of a private school in Bell County which does not offer high school sports, this was very saddening.
One of the first things you will hear from most people is "If you are too good for our schools, you are too good for our sports". It drives me insane when I hear this. It's not an issue of being "too good". Most of the people I hang out with are public schools kids. The issue is, whether you know it or not, 1 in 4 high school graduates from public schools in Kentucky are ready for college. Add that in with a drug infected horrible atmosphere, and you have a place where many students do not want to be.
But many of us still love sports, and want the ability to play them like everyone else. I averaged 20 points a game this past season in 8th grade at Gateway Christian School. I had several high schools wanting me to play for them, but could not.
I know there is nothing any of you can do about it, I just wanted to complain about it somewhere, and I thought this would be as good of a place as anywhere. Hopefully sometime before I am a senior I can play high school basketball. Until then, guess I will only be playing AAU.
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06-14-2015, 05:29 AM
I thought if a school didn't offer a particular sport program, that kids could play sports in the closest area school to them.
06-14-2015, 06:32 AM
Go to school where you want to play sports. Can't have your cake and eat it too.
06-14-2015, 07:41 AM
HCS Wrote:"Drug infected horrible atmosphere?"
That's a real nice thing to say about schools in Bell County.
I mean we can sugarcoat it, but I'm just being honest. I know many people who go to them, and absolutely hate what they have to go into every day, but have no choice.
06-14-2015, 07:41 AM
LookOutNFL Wrote:I thought if a school didn't offer a particular sport program, that kids could play sports in the closest area school to them.
Sadly, no. Not in Kentucky. I've done plenty of research on that.
06-14-2015, 07:42 AM
Real Badman Wrote:Go to school where you want to play sports. Can't have your cake and eat it too.
Kind of not my choice. But even if it was I don't know that I would.
06-14-2015, 01:21 PM
HCS Wrote:You want to play basketball in a drug infected horrible atmosphere but not go to algebra class there?
One is safe for you but the other is not?
I think this says it all.
06-14-2015, 02:14 PM
What happens when you start to work and people that are on drugs show up to work or at the mall that you shop at ?
Drugs are all around you! Coming from a Christian school, you might help your teammates and classmates to not use drugs or help get them off drugs..
Drugs are all around you! Coming from a Christian school, you might help your teammates and classmates to not use drugs or help get them off drugs..
06-14-2015, 05:24 PM
It is a shame that so many kids have turned to drugs, I've never seen it this bad.
06-14-2015, 10:56 PM
Craze JACKET man Wrote:What happens when you start to work and people that are on drugs show up to work or at the mall that you shop at ?
Drugs are all around you! Coming from a Christian school, you might help your teammates and classmates to not use drugs or help get them off drugs..
If you want me to be honest with you, the bigger issue is the education for me, not the drugs. I can avoid that easily and not fall into that. But all you have to do is look at statistics to know that the education of public schools in bell county is lacking greatly.
06-14-2015, 10:59 PM
HCS Wrote:You want to play basketball in a drug infected horrible atmosphere but not go to algebra class there?
One is safe for you but the other is not?
It's more about the education being poor to me. I love the game of basketball, and I could deal with some issues in order to be able to play, but not the issue of lowering my education. It's not worth that much to me, yet it kills me to see people I know I've played against and that I'm better than doing good in high school basketball.
06-14-2015, 11:05 PM
Are you telling me the teachers at Gateway are better than those in Bell/Middlesboro? Didn't they all go to the same colleges?
The deck is stacked. You've got kids at the private school whose parents expect them to be great students and they are. They would be great students at Bell or Middlesboro, too. The building doesn't make you any smarter.
The deck is stacked. You've got kids at the private school whose parents expect them to be great students and they are. They would be great students at Bell or Middlesboro, too. The building doesn't make you any smarter.
06-14-2015, 11:05 PM
M'boroYellowJacket Wrote:If you want me to be honest with you, the bigger issue is the education for me, not the drugs. I can avoid that easily and not fall into that. But all you have to do is look at statistics to know that the education of public schools in bell county is lacking greatly.
No dog in this fight. But I do have an opinion. Well, a couple actually:
1) "drug infested" to describe public education? So private schools don't have drug and weekend party problems with its students? HA. Show me where you got the statistics that show a higher percentage of drugs and alcohol in public vs. private. Thanks.
2) Just like life, education is a choice. Your parents CHOSE for you. That's YOUR choice as well until you are 18. Hey, when you turn 18, take over your own educational rights and transfer. That's legal to do so. But like someone said, you can't have your "cake and eat it too". Take the good with the bad. What's next? Where does it stop?
3) Public education test scores are down because they cannot turn down students. Private schools perform well because they attract the best, brightest, and USUALLY parents with high-income jobs. But, if you look, there are many doctors and lawyers who came from public school system in rural Kentucky. Thankfully they didn't have the elitist attitude of "private is better".
So, to summarize, if you CHOOSE to be homeschooled or you CHOOSE to attend a private school, then you have made your CHOICE. Just my thoughts. Your issue isn't with the public school system, it's with the trust (or lack thereof) your parents and yourself have in the quality of an education in public schools. You can get a good education anywhere you want to go to school. ACT scores are there, regardless if you are public or private. Private has the advantages for what I stated above. That skews the statistics in their favor. My children went to public schools and are now doing quite well. In fact, pulling in close to 6 figures. Hmmm.....
06-14-2015, 11:06 PM
As an educator, I'm sure there are many good teachers in your area, as there are across the state.
06-14-2015, 11:06 PM
M'boroYellowJacket Wrote:It's more about the education being poor to me. I love the game of basketball, and I could deal with some issues in order to be able to play, but not the issue of lowering my education. It's not worth that much to me, yet it kills me to see people I know I've played against and that I'm better than doing good in high school basketball.
Watch the movie "Coach Carter". :Thumbs:
06-14-2015, 11:54 PM
I agree with J.R. VanHoose, there are a lot of good teachers out there.
I went to a small private high school until the 8th grade. After graduating there, I went to the public city school. I went from a class of 10 to a class of 30, but it wasn't a big adjustment for me since I knew the people there from middle school sports. I will tell you this.... IT IS WHAT YOU MAKE OF IT! I'm not from the area, but you make the most out of the situation you are in.
Every school has it's positives and negatives, whether they are private or public. To call a school a "drug infected horrible atmosphere" is assuming that drugs are out of control there. Let me tell you this, there were drugs at my high school, but it was very minimal (small school), and everyone knew not to associate with those people (and most of them had disappeared to other schools by the time we got to senior year). Not to mention, there was a private high school in the next county over that had a lot worse issues than we did at the public city school, and this was before the heroin epidemic really took charge.
I am not saying that one school is better than the other, but as someone mentioned on this thread why private schools are more advanced because they don't have to take the problem children. Would I send my kids to the high school that I graduated from? Yes, in a heartbeat.
I went to a small private high school until the 8th grade. After graduating there, I went to the public city school. I went from a class of 10 to a class of 30, but it wasn't a big adjustment for me since I knew the people there from middle school sports. I will tell you this.... IT IS WHAT YOU MAKE OF IT! I'm not from the area, but you make the most out of the situation you are in.
Every school has it's positives and negatives, whether they are private or public. To call a school a "drug infected horrible atmosphere" is assuming that drugs are out of control there. Let me tell you this, there were drugs at my high school, but it was very minimal (small school), and everyone knew not to associate with those people (and most of them had disappeared to other schools by the time we got to senior year). Not to mention, there was a private high school in the next county over that had a lot worse issues than we did at the public city school, and this was before the heroin epidemic really took charge.
I am not saying that one school is better than the other, but as someone mentioned on this thread why private schools are more advanced because they don't have to take the problem children. Would I send my kids to the high school that I graduated from? Yes, in a heartbeat.
06-15-2015, 01:40 PM
There is a drug problem in Bell County. But, honestly I have never heard of a great deal of problems in the schools there. I went to a private school for 5 years, then went to public school. I knew the kids who partied, and I was taught to stay away. Must remember in my day, the only thing I every knew was they used alcohol. I never heard of any of these drugs back in my day. I was terrified of people I knew that smoked marijuana!
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