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02-13-2015, 12:10 AM
Buzz going around is that no helmets will be allowed until July 22 starting this year.
02-13-2015, 01:05 AM
That'll end well. Wearing the helmet is a part of the conditioning process. The things aren't light and it takes some getting used to after a long off-season without them.
02-13-2015, 01:18 AM
Is this 7 days from last year?
02-13-2015, 01:46 AM
If true, great! A step in the right direction.
Ideally, no teams would start any organized activities until August 1st and everyone would play their season-openers on Labor Day weekend. Presently, too much and too soon.
Ideally, no teams would start any organized activities until August 1st and everyone would play their season-openers on Labor Day weekend. Presently, too much and too soon.
02-13-2015, 02:59 AM
^^^Agree Whole heartedly. I read on another thread, and agree myself that:
-make the whole month of July Dead Period or July 1-21st.
-1st Day of Practice August 1.
-Opening week Labor Day weekend.
-10 game schedule, w/ bye week and only two teams from each district to the playoffs.
- OR, 11 game reg season to give the 4 team fans what they want and the season ends a week later in December.
The poster stated this, and I've always agreed, too. I've never understood why the high school football starts 2, 3 weeks before college and Pro seasons. High school basketball and baseball all start after college and pros (well, maybe MLB and HS starts about the same).
-make the whole month of July Dead Period or July 1-21st.
-1st Day of Practice August 1.
-Opening week Labor Day weekend.
-10 game schedule, w/ bye week and only two teams from each district to the playoffs.
- OR, 11 game reg season to give the 4 team fans what they want and the season ends a week later in December.
The poster stated this, and I've always agreed, too. I've never understood why the high school football starts 2, 3 weeks before college and Pro seasons. High school basketball and baseball all start after college and pros (well, maybe MLB and HS starts about the same).
02-13-2015, 08:27 PM
This will do away with 7 on 7 Football scrimmages. Basketball gets to practice 6 weeks, play for 3 and a half months. Then play Summer ball May and June. Football practice 20 days play and play for 3 mo. Don't seem like a fair deal.
02-13-2015, 08:38 PM
plantmanky Wrote:Buzz going around is that no helmets will be allowed until July 22 starting this year.
This isnt going to happen. No way they have kids running around 7 on 7 against others or themselves without helmets, or just practicing for that matter.
02-13-2015, 08:43 PM
August 1 day would rule out team camps. School would start before pads go on. If you are gonna take a month off take June.
02-13-2015, 09:00 PM
I could see no pads till then but not helmets
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02-14-2015, 02:40 AM
plantmanky Wrote:Buzz going around is that no helmets will be allowed until July 22 starting this year.
Seems stupid.
Was all of July (I think) when I played and actually might have done work in June with helmets at the quarterback camp.
Just doesn't seem like enough time to get kids prepared to play, especially if it's their first time playing (but I know that's unlikely now with all of the feeder systems).
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02-14-2015, 09:41 AM
The stupid idiotic basketball politics in this state is ridiculous and will ruin football in this state! Watch and see if bball doesnt try and push for earlier start and later end date.
02-15-2015, 06:24 PM
What is crazy with all of this is that schools can have spring practice and jump straight into full pads and beat the hell out of each other and nothing is said!!!!
03-04-2015, 10:13 PM
Craze JACKET man Wrote:What is crazy with all of this is that schools can have spring practice and jump straight into full pads and beat the hell out of each other and nothing is said!!!!
That would be, because Basketball Coaches don't care about those 10 days in April. I think this is allowed to happen because some of the Football Coaches don't want to work. This gives them an excuse to start later in Summer. If not the case they would have fought this harder. Why don't some Coaches start AAU Football, then watch them Cry.

03-04-2015, 10:57 PM
Cellking Wrote:That would be, because Basketball Coaches don't care about those 10 days in April. I think this is allowed to happen because some of the Football Coaches don't want to work. This gives them an excuse to start later in Summer. If not the case they would have fought this harder. Why don't some Coaches start AAU Football, then watch them Cry.
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AAU and football is a horrible idea. The last thing coaches want is for their kids to be playing for another coach recruiting all the athletes in the area to one specific school.
03-05-2015, 12:54 AM
Real Badman Wrote:AAU and football is a horrible idea. The last thing coaches want is for their kids to be playing for another coach recruiting all the athletes in the area to one specific school.
Here we are with the double standard again, Ok for the Round Ball, Bad for Football. All I'd like to see is a fair shake for Football. Want happen in this Basketball Crazy State.
03-05-2015, 01:05 AM
So you want to access easy recruiting for football too?
03-05-2015, 01:10 AM
AAU basketball teaches horrible fundamentals. No thank you in football!
03-06-2015, 02:00 AM
Cellking Wrote:This will do away with 7 on 7 Football scrimmages. Basketball gets to practice 6 weeks, play for 3 and a half months. Then play Summer ball May and June. Football practice 20 days play and play for 3 mo. Don't seem like a fair deal.
Football is easier to get injured u have to limit contact isn't that obvious to you
03-06-2015, 02:38 AM
wiznut Wrote:Football is easier to get injured u have to limit contact isn't that obvious to you
That is a lot of Bull and a cop out. Give a Football team 20 days to get ready to play and give Basketball 6 weeks to get ready to play. Just because you practice in pads don't mean you go out and beat each other up everyday.:HitWall:
03-06-2015, 02:41 AM
Cellking Wrote:That is a lot of Bull and a cop out. Give a Football team 20 days to get ready to play and give Basketball 6 weeks to get ready to play. Just because you practice in pads don't mean you go out and beat each other up everyday.:HitWall:
Kids get injured easier in football it is a contact sport. Why would you want to see teenagers risk there health for high school football, they need a break do do bird:gtfo:
03-06-2015, 02:49 AM
wiznut Wrote:Kids get injured easier in football it is a contact sport. Why would you want to see teenagers risk there health for high school football, they need a break do do bird:gtfo:The statistic that kids are easily hurt in football is a ridiculous argument. You can get just as hurt in baseball or basketball, and if you want the truth, cheer leading is the most dangerous sport.
03-06-2015, 03:17 AM
If only we could get the state to do away with basketball and more importantly the baseball leaches that nobody at any school ever goes to watch.
Then we could extend football season into the spring and play 30 regular season games.
Then we could extend football season into the spring and play 30 regular season games.
03-06-2015, 04:01 AM
Real Badman Wrote:The statistic that kids are easily hurt in football is a ridiculous argument. You can get just as hurt in baseball or basketball, and if you want the truth, cheer leading is the most dangerous sport.
Stop being argumentative you u know what I mean dummy
03-23-2015, 10:19 PM
RunItUpTheGut Wrote:If only we could get the state to do away with basketball and more importantly the baseball leaches that nobody at any school ever goes to watch.
Then we could extend football season into the spring and play 30 regular season games.
Amen brother. They should be in helmets popping eachother already.
03-28-2015, 12:57 AM
What is the final ruling on helmets
04-01-2015, 05:26 PM
I heard an old coach years ago say that he thought that football should be a spring sport and baseball should be in the fall. I thought he was silly at first, but the more I think about it the better the idea sounds. Especially for smaller schools that share athletes. I know you would still end up overlapping but your multisport kids would come into football in better condition. Football kids would also get the chance to ease into the warmer weather and by the time the heat index becomes a factor the kids should be in pretty good shape. Also, think of the weather. Football plays right through the rain. Baseball would have far less games cancelled or postponed because the summer/fall in Kentucky is usually much dryer. Plus, our football kids could get more visits from colloge coaches. The coaches could make it to more live games and see our kids in person. I know this would never happen, but I love the idea.
04-02-2015, 12:20 AM
Football could solve a lot of its problems like being the fall sport it was once intended for.
Same could be said for baseball. More nights than not, you need a heavy coat to finish watching the first half of the season games.
Back the opening weekend of football up to Labor Day or after. Connecticut doesn't start actual practice (contact) until Mid August and 1st games aren't until Mid September. I think Long Island NY does the same, and I'm not so sure that Michigan doesn't follow similar guidlines. Not exact. But close.
Kentucky High School and many involved are so worried about keeping up with Alabama's, Florida, Georgia, Texas, South Carolina's of the world that most fail to see the Forrest for the trees. The entire state could work year round on football and never be what those states are from top to bottom, nor close. That's a demographic issue. Population as a whole. African American population. Etc
Baseball needs to quit worrying about playing thirty-seven eleven games. Schedule 20. Move the start back to April 1st.
Things are made a lot more complicated than need be.
Same could be said for baseball. More nights than not, you need a heavy coat to finish watching the first half of the season games.
Back the opening weekend of football up to Labor Day or after. Connecticut doesn't start actual practice (contact) until Mid August and 1st games aren't until Mid September. I think Long Island NY does the same, and I'm not so sure that Michigan doesn't follow similar guidlines. Not exact. But close.
Kentucky High School and many involved are so worried about keeping up with Alabama's, Florida, Georgia, Texas, South Carolina's of the world that most fail to see the Forrest for the trees. The entire state could work year round on football and never be what those states are from top to bottom, nor close. That's a demographic issue. Population as a whole. African American population. Etc
Baseball needs to quit worrying about playing thirty-seven eleven games. Schedule 20. Move the start back to April 1st.
Things are made a lot more complicated than need be.
04-02-2015, 04:27 PM
Don't get me wrong, I am all for football. I have a son that plays both football and baseball and loves them both.
But, baseball already has the shortest season. It is only roughly 8 weeks from the first game to district tournament. If you make it to state, you get to play about 10 weeks. Baseball will never be a fall sport anywhere in the US except for the die hards that play it year round. I know it doesn't bring in the money for the schools but baseball gets the least overall time devoted to it of any of the major sports. Out basketball players can't even go to the field house and take controlled batting practice until they are eliminated from tournament play.
They are actually talking about dropping the baseball season to 30 games and
not allowing a start until around March 20 or so. Probably not a bad idea.
Football has a 10 week regular season plus an off week. If you can manage to win one playoff game, your season will last 13 weeks. Football already has spring practice and a spring game that no other sport gets to do out of season. Plus, if you want to progress, you have to lift weights in the off season as well.
Basketball is roughly the same, about 13 weeks, and the coaches want their players in the gym all summer.
I do agree that kids need to get used to helmets over the summer. July 22 is too late.
But, baseball already has the shortest season. It is only roughly 8 weeks from the first game to district tournament. If you make it to state, you get to play about 10 weeks. Baseball will never be a fall sport anywhere in the US except for the die hards that play it year round. I know it doesn't bring in the money for the schools but baseball gets the least overall time devoted to it of any of the major sports. Out basketball players can't even go to the field house and take controlled batting practice until they are eliminated from tournament play.
They are actually talking about dropping the baseball season to 30 games and
not allowing a start until around March 20 or so. Probably not a bad idea.
Football has a 10 week regular season plus an off week. If you can manage to win one playoff game, your season will last 13 weeks. Football already has spring practice and a spring game that no other sport gets to do out of season. Plus, if you want to progress, you have to lift weights in the off season as well.
Basketball is roughly the same, about 13 weeks, and the coaches want their players in the gym all summer.
I do agree that kids need to get used to helmets over the summer. July 22 is too late.
04-02-2015, 05:19 PM
What is really stupid about this is the dead period ends on July 9th so technically Friday the 10th you can start practice and many will. That leaves you practicing with out helmets for eight days, not counting the weekends, since everyone is talking about safety how is that safe. Tackett stated the reason was to try and keep anyone from doing too much, he really and truly publicly said that. This will also cut out many of the early 7 on 7 stuff that goes on during this time.
04-02-2015, 09:06 PM
Somebody make sure those guys at Campbellsville Camp get this memo. The ones that put equipment on a week early last year. LOL :biglmao:
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