[johnnyd]

Speaking of learning football, you should learn football math never works. Go back to school young grasshopper. Why compare to other games when we have head to head to compare to? Geez man I thought you was a football fan? Guess not so much huh?

Since it was a close game between Belfry and Harlan Co in 2013 its good to go to a secondary source. One game does not a season make. Unlike you I understand that. Then again you think that simply putting the ball in the air a few more times a game somehow changes everything.

[Demarcus ware]

Maybe you need to learn some more football.... Belfry did in fact have a few freshman's and sophomores on the 2013 team that played. They are all world however. #44 and #23 for Belfry are not your average freshman both are on national watch lists as recruits. On offense Belfry was either a junior or senior at almost every position. The qb, and one wing were seniors, the fb and other wing were juniors. The flanker was a junior. Sani Warren the qb was one of the best at the position ever at Belfry at both qb and cb. Their lineman were all old and seasoned. In 2013 Belfry won 21-12 which is a far cry from total domination. in 2014 Harlan was way down and Belfry still had some of its pieces. The 2013 belfry team would destroy the belfry 2014 team. I don't feel that 2014 was an accurate representation of what the coaches wanted to put out there on the field. But then again know it alls like you will tell me different. Now you got any questions?

And yet you didnt account for the players out with injury and the young guys were playing in their place did you? Oops. The second half after the great coach made adjustments and the good coach didnt what happened? Oops. Point to all this is larkey didnt get it done and now hes out. Time to stop whining and get behind the next one.

[Demarcus ware]

Since it was a close game between Belfry and Harlan Co in 2013 its good to go to a secondary source. One game does not a season make. Unlike you I understand that. Then again you think that simply putting the ball in the air a few more times a game somehow changes everything.

Actually it does change things. It prevents them from loading the box. Geez you really dont know anything do you? I'm done. Larkeys out nuff said. Lol

[johnnyd]

And yet you didnt account for the players out with injury and the young guys were playing in their place did you? Oops. The second half after the great coach made adjustments and the good coach didnt what happened? Oops. Point to all this is larkey didnt get it done and now hes out. Time to stop whining and get behind the next one.

The belfry's backfield played every snap that year with the exception of one of their backup wings that went down early in the year. Their stud lineman played almost every snap. I know I watched every game of theirs that year. Injuries happen to everyone. You said total domination not halftime adjustment. You just keep reaching for justifications. You keep showing you don't really have any more of a clue other than being a glorified backseat coach.

[johnnyd]

Actually it does change things. It prevents them from loading the box. Geez you really dont know anything do you? I'm done. Larkeys out nuff said. Lol

Not really. If you can't throw a lick a good defensive coach will take his chances with the pass. If the other team has a qb that cannot complete a good percentage of his passes people will continue to load the box reguardless of if you throw it or not. When I say load the box I mean 7 man fronts vs the spread or 8 or 9 man fronts against a full house backfield. If your qb stinks then what good does it do to throw 10 more passes a game to complete 3 of them. Essentially that's 7 more negative plays a game for the offense where they gained nothing. I saw Harlan's qb this year. He wasn't going to make big plays with his arm. He was not accurate. If Harlan had a good qb then Larkey would use him like he did at Rockcastle when he had Parson's and Anderkin. They threw the ball plenty back then. Its really an easy argument for you backseat coaches to have. You just pick what the coach is not doing and dwell on that. If you was throwing the ball every play you would be complaining about running it.

[Bear booster]

Dont like coaching QB's, I am however coaching a defensive lineman that will be the best in the state and/or country one day.

poor kid, I feel so sorry for him.

Another delusional wannabe coach

heck I may start coaching my nephwes son so he wil be all american since its so easy, he is already 3'1 and 65lbs

[William Muney]

Demarcus since you know so much more football then everyone else you need to take up coaching. I am sure you could wow some people into hiring you.

[HCS]

Harlan County hasn't had a quarterback yet who I felt comfortable with throwing the ball more than a few times. Their percentage of success was much greater running.
I remember Belfry's QB threw an interception last year and the guys in the box were complaining about Haywood going away from what worked.
I thought Larkey made one of his biggest mistakes in the Bell game a few years back when he tried to throw when HCHS was going in for what would have been the go-ahead touchdown.

[FarristownFlyer]

David Hensley???

[johnnyd]

ill bet you it will be Hensley. Beginning of the end for Harlan County Football.

[OptionFootball]

Johnnyd, I do not know the full situation in Harlan County and the state of the Football Program. I will agree Coach Larkey was and still is a great football coach. Like with most coaches he has probably put this behind him. On to David Hensley and the negative comment. Maybe you should ask why would he want to come to Harlan? Even though it is his home town, Harlan/Cawood/Evarts/Cumberland is not close to what it was 10, 20 or 30 years ago when he played there. In my past memories the only coaches to have success there in the last 20 were Frazier at Cumberland Class A Ball, and Billy at Evarts, Donahue has over achieved at Harlan, but that would be beneath you guys kinda like Hensley. If I was going to hire someone then hire someone that has had
some success, could hire a staff, and would stay in the mountains (Scott Russell) or Randy Frazier.

[Demarcus ware]

Demarcus since you know so much more football then everyone else you need to take up coaching. I am sure you could wow some people into hiring you.

I do coach. But thanks for noticing my skills.

[Demarcus ware]

Special called board meeting tonight to appoint a temp coach which tells me they didnt have a plan..Smh...My money is it will be Saylor but I could be wrong. They're also having a rally outside, im sure you all will be there right? nicker:

[Bear Nut]

I will be there carrying my sign. Not that it will do no good. damn politics

[Real Badman]

Why am I reading about someone calling an offense "out of date?" How stupid could someone really have to be to buy in that nonsense?

[Cardfan1]

Why am I reading about someone calling an offense "out of date?" How stupid could someone really have to be to buy in that nonsense?

Pay no attention to the 3rd grade coach. :hilarious:

[Demarcus ware]

How stupid do you have to be to believe being one dimensional gets it done these days? Not to smart for mod especially. Of course that dont mean much either. How many one dimensional teams are out there these days? Very few and getting fewer. Most of all them are in the mountsins at that. So good try.

[Fuzzybeardad]

I do remember that and if I recall he was kicked off the team and should have been done earlier but the only fault coach larkey made was trying to help the kid, maybe if the kid had been arrested earlier for things he did it wouldnt have come to that, but some turned a blind eye to the behavior in cumberland. The kid was a disease to the team but the only thing he had was football and that somehow kept him in school and was his only chance and i applaud our coaches for trying to help, unlike some who just sit by and watched and did nothing.
the county never wanted him gone, you act as if all of harlan co is involved, its was only a small portion of people with family/personal grudges and bad feelings that someone in their family didnt get the job.


im inclined to think that there are not many teams who dont have kids on team who are bad eggs and get into fights at pract or at halftime with as much as emotions that go into a good team. Every kid isnt saints.

Bear Booster I've had about enough of your mouth. You have had comments about my family and us being mad because my uncle David Hensley was not hired! I hate to tell you but I was pulling for him cause he is my uncle sorry to disappoint you. As a matter of fact I was pleased that we Harlan County had hired Tom Larkey yeah I was disappointed my family didn't get the job but in the long run I'm here for the kids. Now saying that Larkey and his staff was the ones that held a grudge for 6 yrs while I was cheering tailgating and supporting the Black Bears! Yes starting last year I seen the wheels falling off and was right about the out come I thought would happen! One can not live the life style that some coaches were living and continue to be around kids. Yes we have our opinoins on the radio and if hurts u or anyone else's feelings sorry grow some thick skin! There was one time our sideline reporter had to cut the mic off cause a coach was calling the kids MFers so if that's ok with you I'm sorry but not with me, also don't forget the many times players walked into the field house and seen things that they should have not seen and I'm leaving that at that. So yes 2-9 also plays a factor. But to call my family out and your to scared to put ur name is just as bad as grade school children. You know who I am, were I work and apparently know me pretty good. If you need to talk to me I'm easy to find. Furthermore my feelings is not a reflection of my family they have never been anything but supportive to Tom and Harlan County. It does feel good that you think I have that much pull here in Harlan County and all I can say is please go cry alone by self and leave me and my family out of this! Hopefully you get the point AND I will not responded again on here but it stops now! Hopefully Harlan County can hire the right coach and guess what I will be hind them 100% no MATTER who it is.

[Cardfan1]

How stupid do you have to be to believe being one dimensional gets it done these days? Not to smart for mod especially. Of course that dont mean much either. How many one dimensional teams are out there these days? Very few and getting fewer. Most of all them are in the mountsins at that. So good try.

Look up your stats man . Many schools across the nation still win running the wing - t. I hate it ...but if you can coach it at a high level you can run anything.

Good luck bears. I think it was a mistake but I live in Wayne co...so what do I know, but man you just ran off a good coach and leader.

[Demarcus ware]

I'm guessing by the low turnout at the rally that things are still going forward. Sad situation I suppose. Anyone know who the temp coach is until they hire one?

[Bear booster]

Bear Booster I've had about enough of your mouth. You have had comments about my family and us being mad because my uncle David Hensley was not hired! I hate to tell you but I was pulling for him cause he is my uncle sorry to disappoint you. As a matter of fact I was pleased that we Harlan County had hired Tom Larkey yeah I was disappointed my family didn't get the job but in the long run I'm here for the kids. Now saying that Larkey and his staff was the ones that held a grudge for 6 yrs while I was cheering tailgating and supporting the Black Bears! Yes starting last year I seen the wheels falling off and was right about the out come I thought would happen! One can not live the life style that some coaches were living and continue to be around kids. Yes we have our opinoins on the radio and if hurts u or anyone else's feelings sorry grow some thick skin! There was one time our sideline reporter had to cut the mic off cause a coach was calling the kids MFers so if that's ok with you I'm sorry but not with me, also don't forget the many times players walked into the field house and seen things that they should have not seen and I'm leaving that at that. So yes 2-9 also plays a factor. But to call my family out and your to scared to put ur name is just as bad as grade school children. You know who I am, were I work and apparently know me pretty good. If you need to talk to me I'm easy to find. Furthermore my feelings is not a reflection of my family they have never been anything but supportive to Tom and Harlan County. It does feel good that you think I have that much pull here in Harlan County and all I can say is please go cry alone by self and leave me and my family out of this! Hopefully you get the point AND I will not responded again on here but it stops now! Hopefully Harlan County can hire the right coach and guess what I will be hind them 100% no MATTER who it is.

Well I can't speak for coach Larkey or how he feels about some and actuall I had a few other people in mind when talking about family, as I'm sure we are going to find out about. And gotta say I have never listened to your radio show and didn't even know there was one on football
Only thing I have to cry over is the sad state of politics in this county and how people even try to act as if they supported coach Larkey, all it took was a bad season for the wolves to show true feelings and I'm going to venture to say that if we had a good season none of this happens. Funny to see how some just waited for an opportunity.

I'm actually tired of reading and posting on this, anyone who knows anything knows the truth and who is responsible.

[Bear booster]

I'm guessing by the low turnout at the rally that things are still going forward. Sad situation I suppose. Anyone know who the temp coach is until they hire one?

How would you know since you don't live here, or so you say.

And actually why would you care about a turnout, just proves what kind of person you really are and how despising you are and how much hatred and sad you are

[Demarcus ware]

How would you know since you don't live here, or so you say.

And actually why would you care about a turnout, just proves what kind of person you really are and how despising you are and how much hatred and sad you are

Thats right I dont live there just ask Granny she knows where I live. But I know about the turnout because I still know everyone up there. Since the whole county and only a select few wanted him out then where was the war cry tonight? Guess you dont have the support you thought you did huh? Bahahaha...nope I dont have hatred, im definitely not sad, not jealous either. Ive tried to tell you people all season whats going to happen. Not bad from a person that dont even live there huh? Now enough with you, so anyone know who the temp coach is???

[Demarcus ware]

Well I can't speak for coach Larkey or how he feels about some and actuall I had a few other people in mind when talking about family, as I'm sure we are going to find out about. And gotta say I have never listened to your radio show and didn't even know there was one on football
Only thing I have to cry over is the sad state of politics in this county and how people even try to act as if they supported coach Larkey, all it took was a bad season for the wolves to show true feelings and I'm going to venture to say that if we had a good season none of this happens. Funny to see how some just waited for an opportunity.

I'm actually tired of reading and posting on this, anyone who knows anything knows the truth and who is responsible.

Im responsible....my post on BGR did it, haven't you heard? Like ive told a few people on here privately, all the extra curricular activities off the field caught up..

[DarthVader]

Look up your stats man . Many schools across the nation still win running the wing - t. I hate it ...but if you can coach it at a high level you can run anything.

Good luck bears. I think it was a mistake but I live in Wayne co...so what do I know, but man you just ran off a good coach and leader.

I am a fan of all styles, haha, They all win if ran correctly with proper fundamentals. Blocking Down and Kicking out works as good as it did 40 years ago, nothings changed except kids being exposed to the spread offense on TV every time they turn around, and know nothing parents/fans that watch Kirk Herbstreit on the weekends and think they know football, If the college or pro teams don't run the wingt/power I/DW then it must be a failure as an offense. Every sound offensive scheme has answers to anything the defense can do to stop it. If a team is in the Power I and has a 80/20 run pass ratio they are outdated, if a team is in a 2X2 set and has a 80/20 run pass ratio, they are balanced and modern in the eyes of most fans. There have been times when teams from up north have came down to the mountains and thrown less than 10 passes in a win against a mountain school and the negative fans talk about how those schools up north win because of a "balanced offense".

[Patriot]

Wasn't a thing on the agenda about a temporary coach. The board doesn't handle personnel decisions that is decided at the school. Was told Mrs Burkhart told the players they're looking for someone to supervise weightlifting.

Tim Saylor is a big Larkey fan! Has spent the last two days with him. I don't see him taking the job. If I were guessing right now it would be Randy Frazier.

I appreciate all the people that showed up to support Coach Larkey. It was never a rally to get his job back he doesn't want that we were there to make sure he knows some in Harlan County appreciate what he has done.

[Real Badman]

How stupid do you have to be to believe being one dimensional gets it done these days? Not to smart for mod especially. Of course that dont mean much either. How many one dimensional teams are out there these days? Very few and getting fewer. Most of all them are in the mountsins at that. So good try.

So you're telling me that Belfry needs to throw the ball to win 4 state championships in a time frame of 11 years? No. If I remember EKUAlum05 correctly, without looking back, Belfry won all 4 games by throwing under 50 yards. You're just delusional, and clearly have an ignorant football I.Q.. I feel sorry for the Black Bears if you're the kind of person attempting to represent their interests. Wing-T, Split Back Veer, Single Wing, Double Wing, Flex Bone, Maryland I, Power I, Full House, and Wishbone offenses still work. There are nationally ranked football programs who run these types of offenses. Do your research before you start running your mouth about something you clearly don't know anything about. Larkey is a good football coach. The best Harlan County will ever see for a very very long time. I feel so sorry for the next guy coming in, if anyone ever will apply. Truthfully, it's not that good of a job.

[Patriot]

I remember a guy in the 90's that could throw the ball all over the field, went to a division 1 school, and was even the #1 draft pick in be NFL but never won a State Championship.

And Dudley Hilton didn't exactly air it out while winning two state championships.

[Demarcus ware]

So you're telling me that Belfry needs to throw the ball to win 4 state championships in a time frame of 11 years? No. If I remember EKUAlum05 correctly, without looking back, Belfry won all 4 games by throwing under 50 yards. You're just delusional, and clearly have an ignorant football I.Q.. I feel sorry for the Black Bears if you're the kind of person attempting to represent their interests. Wing-T, Split Back Veer, Single Wing, Double Wing, Flex Bone, Maryland I, Power I, Full House, and Wishbone offenses still work. There are nationally ranked football programs who run these types of offenses. Do your research before you start running your mouth about something you clearly don't know anything about. Larkey is a good football coach. The best Harlan County will ever see for a very very long time. I feel so sorry for the next guy coming in, if anyone ever will apply. Truthfully, it's not that good of a job.

Tell me oh great one, how many one dimensional teams are in bowling green year in and year out? Tell me that. And you're a mod on BGR thinking you have a great iQ? Talk about shouldnt be representing. Pathetic. Surely you can do better than that. Like I said fewer and fewer teams are one dimensional.

[pjdoug]

Not really. If you can't throw a lick a good defensive coach will take his chances with the pass. If the other team has a qb that cannot complete a good percentage of his passes people will continue to load the box reguardless of if you throw it or not. When I say load the box I mean 7 man fronts vs the spread or 8 or 9 man fronts against a full house backfield. If your qb stinks then what good does it do to throw 10 more passes a game to complete 3 of them. Essentially that's 7 more negative plays a game for the offense where they gained nothing. I saw Harlan's qb this year. He wasn't going to make big plays with his arm. He was not accurate. If Harlan had a good qb then Larkey would use him like he did at Rockcastle when he had Parson's and Anderkin. They threw the ball plenty back then. Its really an easy argument for you backseat coaches to have. You just pick what the coach is not doing and dwell on that. If you was throwing the ball every play you would be complaining about running it.

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