[Armchair QB]

I would like to start this response by saying I pull for JC when they play the NKY schools, and want them to win as much as any JC fan.

However it is never good to compare there regular season schedule against anyone's. 10 regular season win against.......

1-10 Perry County Central
2-9 Harlan County
2-9 Boyd County
4-7 Greenup County
2-8 Rowan County
6-5 Ashland Blazer
10-2 Belfry
4-5 Lutheran East
2-8 Fairland
6-5 Mastery Charter North

I'm sure JC would love to replace one of those schools with Pburg? :eyeroll:

[wiznut]

Johnson central the best regular season team in the mountains all that jelly and no Toast

[THOMCAT]

I'm sure JC would love to replace one of those schools with Pburg? :eyeroll:

Can't replace one with them when they have no testicular fortitude. They have offered them the moon. I have been told that they were offered a 3 year deal with two of them at the burg and also a paycheck to participate in the Big Sandy RECC Bowl. It would make a great rivalry.

[Lynch47]

Johnson central the best regular season team in the mountains all that jelly and no Toast

And no one else in the mountains would've been in the kitchen. Cov Cath was preseason #1 in 4A for a reason, a lot of returning talent on this years team that team that whipped them up and down the field last year and played Highlands to a very close game in the regional finals. Had JC been able to punch in a few scores when they were deep in CCH territory they would've faced Highlands in the next round. They didn't so the results speak for themselves and it is time to move on to the next season. If you honestly think that another team from the mountains could've won the region they were in the past 4 seasons you are sorely mistaking. I believe before this season Highlands was 34-1 in the past seven years during the playoffs, so 34 teams in 7 years got dealt the same thing. The lone blemish was from an unthinkable play at the end of the finals against Collins last year.

Arm Chair is right, I'm sure they would've loved to played a couple of the top tier teams in their area but no one would do it. Every time it is brought up the same song is played, why should Pburg play them, why should Pikeville play them, why should this team or that team play them. Several things that I can think of; huge gate, great atmosphere, establish local rivalries, face contrasting styles and to quiet the instigators. People from those programs are the ones that are always barking. It is easy to act like a big dog on the porch when you never come to the yard.

[Bob Seger]

Can't replace one with them when they have no testicular fortitude. They have offered them the moon. I have been told that they were offered a 3 year deal with two of them at the burg and also a paycheck to participate in the Big Sandy RECC Bowl. It would make a great rivalry.

I don't know that I 100% agree with that Tcat...While it might be a more competitive game than some on the schedule, I cant help but think it would in most years be a rout for JC....Not bashing the PBurg program by any means, but a good 4A team should routinely dominate a good 2A team...Personally this matchup wouldn't get me overly excited to see, and I don't know why anyone of JC would want to play this game so badly. ...I think that after a while fan interest would dwindle as this would end up just being a breather on the JC schedule.

[Bob Seger]

And no one else in the mountains would've been in the kitchen. Cov Cath was preseason #1 in 4A for a reason, a lot of returning talent on this years team that team that whipped them up and down the field last year and played Highlands to a very close game in the regional finals. Had JC been able to punch in a few scores when they were deep in CCH territory they would've faced Highlands in the next round. They didn't so the results speak for themselves and it is time to move on to the next season. If you honestly think that another team from the mountains could've won the region they were in the past 4 seasons you are sorely mistaking. I believe before this season Highlands was 34-1 in the past seven years during the playoffs, so 34 teams in 7 years got dealt the same thing. The lone blemish was from an unthinkable play at the end of the finals against Collins last year.

Arm Chair is right, I'm sure they would've loved to played a couple of the top tier teams in their area but no one would do it. Every time it is brought up the same song is played, why should Pburg play them, why should Pikeville play them, why should this team or that team play them. Several things that I can think of; huge gate, great atmosphere, establish local rivalries, face contrasting styles and to quiet the instigators. People from those programs are the ones that are always barking. It is easy to act like a big dog on the porch when you never come to the yard.

That's right Lynch, CovCath did enter the season as the #1 ranked team in the state....This board is loaded with those who don't have a clue what they are even talking about when their fingertips take over their thought process....There is not one team in the mountains, (zero, zilch, nada), other than JC, that CovCath would not put a running clock on. JC was in this game all the way until the last 5 minutes when they had to overcome two scores and there was simply not enough time , (plus loosing their starting QB)with a very young squad.

[pjdoug]

Johnson central the best regular season team in the mountains all that jelly and no Toast

that shows how weak mountain football is

[pjdoug]

Didn't mean my post to be argumentative, Hoot, but cherry-picking comparisons like you did hardly disprove the point I was making. And inexperience is not an excuse at season's end...

Everything in Matney's offense must come from success in running the football (like Belfry). That is a problem when the better 4A teams have the size and speed to stop it (unlike in 3A where very few teams can match size/speed with Belfry).

With the quality and quantity of athletes Central has, the Eagles can run about any system it wants. IMO a spread offense would make them much harder to prepare to play.


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I agree.

[pjdoug]

Pretty Much like we call the Northern Ky Teams Cincinnati Teams nicker:

:truestory:

[pjdoug]

wiznut...I'm out of breath after reading your run-on sentence on steroids!

:biglmao:

[Do-double-gg]

I would love for coach Cecil to put Johnson Central on the Dawg's schedule next year. We have had some real soft teams the last 2 years. I will let some of it slide because some of those teams were better when they were scheduled and some of those teams he has a history with. A lot of talk going on in Louisa about the program turning the corner and our numbers were up this year and our little league and middle school ball is getting better so I say it's time to beef up the competition. We will never know where we stand if we don't play somebody in the regular season. We may get beat but it will make us better in the long run.

[dawg fan]

And no one else in the mountains would've been in the kitchen. Cov Cath was preseason #1 in 4A for a reason, a lot of returning talent on this years team that team that whipped them up and down the field last year and played Highlands to a very close game in the regional finals. Had JC been able to punch in a few scores when they were deep in CCH territory they would've faced Highlands in the next round. They didn't so the results speak for themselves and it is time to move on to the next season. If you honestly think that another team from the mountains could've won the region they were in the past 4 seasons you are sorely mistaking. I believe before this season Highlands was 34-1 in the past seven years during the playoffs, so 34 teams in 7 years got dealt the same thing. The lone blemish was from an unthinkable play at the end of the finals against Collins last year.

Arm Chair is right, I'm sure they would've loved to played a couple of the top tier teams in their area but no one would do it. Every time it is brought up the same song is played, why should Pburg play them, why should Pikeville play them, why should this team or that team play them. Several things that I can think of; huge gate, great atmosphere, establish local rivalries, face contrasting styles and to quiet the instigators. People from those programs are the ones that are always barking. It is easy to act like a big dog on the porch when you never come to the yard.

Cov Catholic 8 and 4 with a bad loss to 1a beechwood johnson central should have won this game. I thought they would but they didn't. I do believe jc is the best team east of 75 and south of 64 but jc has to decide if they are ok with that or not, if not they are going to have to beef up their schedule their district is bad nothing they can do about that, but to schedule 1a, 2a, 3a schools is not going to help them they need imo good 5a and 6a schools. They have beaten the best 3a team in the state the past 2 years has that helped them? Belfry will take those losses fron jc and put another state title in the trophy case every year. Jc has to decide do they want a 10 and 0 season or state title the choice is all up to the eagles.

[#1 Blackcat Fan]

I'm sure JC would love to replace one of those schools with Pburg? :eyeroll:

I'm sure they would love to step down 2 classes a play a smaller school. Just like the scheduling now, what good would it do.

Someone made a comment about Lawrence Counties strength of schedule. I was simply pointing out like 90% of the posters on here JC has no room to compare strength of schedule.

[#1 Blackcat Fan]

Can't replace one with them when they have no testicular fortitude. They have offered them the moon. I have been told that they were offered a 3 year deal with two of them at the burg and also a paycheck to participate in the Big Sandy RECC Bowl. It would make a great rivalry.

As I said in another post, I am sure they would love to step down 2 classes and play a smaller school. What good does it do either team??

[#1 Blackcat Fan]

And no one else in the mountains would've been in the kitchen. Cov Cath was preseason #1 in 4A for a reason, a lot of returning talent on this years team that team that whipped them up and down the field last year and played Highlands to a very close game in the regional finals. Had JC been able to punch in a few scores when they were deep in CCH territory they would've faced Highlands in the next round. They didn't so the results speak for themselves and it is time to move on to the next season. If you honestly think that another team from the mountains could've won the region they were in the past 4 seasons you are sorely mistaking. I believe before this season Highlands was 34-1 in the past seven years during the playoffs, so 34 teams in 7 years got dealt the same thing. The lone blemish was from an unthinkable play at the end of the finals against Collins last year.

Arm Chair is right, I'm sure they would've loved to played a couple of the top tier teams in their area but no one would do it. Every time it is brought up the same song is played, why should Pburg play them, why should Pikeville play them, why should this team or that team play them. Several things that I can think of; huge gate, great atmosphere, establish local rivalries, face contrasting styles and to quiet the instigators. People from those programs are the ones that are always barking. It is easy to act like a big dog on the porch when you never come to the yard.

You are correct on the bolded part. JC is the only team in the eastern part of the state who would stand a chance against CC. What kills me is JC fans want to bash all other programs for simply stating facts that they also know is true. Beef up your damn schedule.

I think most fan bases in eastern KY pull for JC in there class and would love for them to succeed. I know I do, but some of your fans make it hard.

[Lynch47]

Cov Catholic 8 and 4 with a bad loss to 1a beechwood johnson central should have won this game. I thought they would but they didn't. I do believe jc is the best team east of 75 and south of 64 but jc has to decide if they are ok with that or not, if not they are going to have to beef up their schedule their district is bad nothing they can do about that, but to schedule 1a, 2a, 3a schools is not going to help them they need imo good 5a and 6a schools. They have beaten the best 3a team in the state the past 2 years has that helped them? Belfry will take those losses fron jc and put another state title in the trophy case every year. Jc has to decide do they want a 10 and 0 season or state title the choice is all up to the eagles.

Against Beechwood they were using their 3rd string QB, half of their lines were out with injury, RB was hurt and overall they were a MASH unit in that game. Do you think if they would've loaded up the schedule with monster teams from the GCL that it would have somehow got them to the state title these past 4 years? If that is your logic, how well did that work out for CCH? Fact is that JC has reached out to numerous schools locally because outside of Belfry and Harlan County, no school within 2 hours has the stones to play us home and home. You also do realize that Belfry has the benefit of sitting their starters the first 3 rounds of the playoffs as well without even being tested? JC, on the other hand, plays in region 4 that continually consists of 3 of the top 5 schools in 4A. Class 4A these past 4 years has been a different animal than 3A, 2A, 1A and most years 5A.

[Hoot Gibson]

You are correct on the bolded part. JC is the only team in the eastern part of the state who would stand a chance against CC. What kills me is JC fans want to bash all other programs for simply stating facts that they also know is true. Beef up your damn schedule.

I think most fan bases in eastern KY pull for JC in there class and would love for them to succeed. I know I do, but some of your fans make it hard.

What kills me is that Johnson Central has arguably had the third best 4A teams in the state during the 2006 through 2014 season.

How many 4A teams that run a spread offense and/or have played stronger schedules than Johnson Central have been able to have more success against Highlands and Covington Catholic during that period than the Golden Eagles have?

(Collins won the state 4A title last season, but they lost to Highlands 47-0 in the 2012 title and did not make it past the first round this season. No other team has won a state title in the class that Highlands and Covington Catholic has played since 2005, other than the Bluebirds and Colonels.)

Two years ago, did you think that Harlan County and Perry County Central would be weak teams this season? HC was a state 5A semi-finalist in 2012 and Johnson Central escaped from Perry County Central with a 44-36 win in 2012. Nobody could have anticipated that Belfry would be so banged up when they were put on the schedule, and apparently Ashland was not as bad as many people thought, considering the trouble Highlands had putting them away in the second round.

I don't know why so many people have so much trouble giving Johnson Central credit for their success. Matney could have switched schedules with any team in the state and they still would have been a very young, inexperienced team playing a more experienced Covington Catholic team that returned most of its key players from a team that easily handled Johnson Central a year ago.

The Golden Eagles exceeded any reasonable person's expectations after losing its entire starting backfield and several other key players from last season. Expectation will be much higher next season for a team that should be loaded and in the state title hunt for the foreseeable future. That will be true, regardless of what offense Coach Matney chooses to run, and regardless of the Golden Eagles' strength of schedule.

[#1 Blackcat Fan]

What kills me is that Johnson Central has arguably had the third best 4A teams in the state during the 2006 through 2014 season.

How many 4A teams that run a spread offense and/or have played stronger schedules than Johnson Central have been able to have more success against Highlands and Covington Catholic during that period than the Golden Eagles have?

(Collins won the state 4A title last season, but they lost to Highlands 47-0 in the 2012 title and did not make it past the first round this season. No other team has won a state title in the class that Highlands and Covington Catholic has played since 2005, other than the Bluebirds and Colonels.)

Two years ago, did you think that Harlan County and Perry County Central would be weak teams this season? HC was a state 5A semi-finalist in 2012 and Johnson Central escaped from Perry County Central with a 44-36 win in 2012. Nobody could have anticipated that Belfry would be so banged up when they were put on the schedule, and apparently Ashland was not as bad as many people thought, considering the trouble Highlands had putting them away in the second round.

I don't know why so many people have so much trouble giving Johnson Central credit for their success. Matney could have switched schedules with any team in the state and they still would have been a very young, inexperienced team playing a more experienced Covington Catholic team that returned most of its key players from a team that easily handled Johnson Central a year ago.

The Golden Eagles exceeded any reasonable person's expectations after losing its entire starting backfield and several other key players from last season. Expectation will be much higher next season for a team that should be loaded and in the state title hunt for the foreseeable future. That will be true, regardless of what offense Coach Matney chooses to run, and regardless of the Golden Eagles' strength of schedule.

I don't think anyone has trouble giving JC credit for their success. Myself like many others would just simply love to see them take it a step further.

Now for the 2nd part of the bolded statement. Do you think JC would have been as inexperienced had they played a tougher schedule? If they were playing more competitive games then you wouldn't be sitting your starters for half of most games you played. Those young inexperienced players would have twice the playing time and experience come playoff time. Would you agree with that??

I am not slamming JC at all. I want to see them succeed as much as any JC fan. I just don't see the need of bashing people when they point out the obvious.

You are correct no other team in the area would stand a chance against Highlands nor CC. That is why other programs would love to see JC step up their competition. Most all of us want JC to beat these teams and represent the eastern part of the state in BG.

[Mountain maniac]

Love how this website is just a bunch of grown men who argue about 14-18 year olds who just want to play the sport they love and dont give an absolute **** in the world who they play.

[Armchair QB]

You are correct on the bolded part. JC is the only team in the eastern part of the state who would stand a chance against CC. What kills me is JC fans want to bash all other programs for simply stating facts that they also know is true. Beef up your damn schedule.

I think most fan bases in eastern KY pull for JC in there class and would love for them to succeed. I know I do, but some of your fans make it hard.

I haven't bashed anyone. I think PBURG would be an upgrade from some of the schools on our schedule last year. Also, you can't take money out of the equation. I am willing to bet that a JC/PBURG game would be one of the largest gates ever at each school. That kind of money makes it easier to take those long bus rides down the road to play a 5A/6A power house.

[#1 Blackcat Fan]

I haven't bashed anyone. I think PBURG would be an upgrade from some of the schools on our schedule last year. Also, you can't take money out of the equation. I am willing to bet that a JC/PBURG game would be one of the largest gates ever at each school. That kind of money makes it easier to take those long bus rides down the road to play a 5A/6A power house.

I did not say you did anywhere in my statement, but several others do.

I also think Prestonsburg would be an upgrade from most of your schedule. I just think they should travel 2 hours west and play some of the larger Lexington schools instead.

[sstack]

What kills me is that Johnson Central has arguably had the third best 4A teams in the state during the 2006 through 2014 season. How many 4A teams that run a spread offense and/or have played stronger schedules than Johnson Central have been able to have more success against Highlands and Covington Catholic during that period than the Golden Eagles have?

(Collins won the state 4A title last season, but they lost to Highlands 47-0 in the 2012 title and did not make it past the first round this season. No other team has won a state title in the class that Highlands and Covington Catholic has played since 2005, other than the Bluebirds and Colonels.)

Two years ago, did you think that Harlan County and Perry County Central would be weak teams this season? HC was a state 5A semi-finalist in 2012 and Johnson Central escaped from Perry County Central with a 44-36 win in 2012. Nobody could have anticipated that Belfry would be so banged up when they were put on the schedule, and apparently Ashland was not as bad as many people thought, considering the trouble Highlands had putting them away in the second round.

I don't know why so many people have so much trouble giving Johnson Central credit for their success. Matney could have switched schedules with any team in the state and they still would have been a very young, inexperienced team playing a more experienced Covington Catholic team that returned most of its key players from a team that easily handled Johnson Central a year ago.

The Golden Eagles exceeded any reasonable person's expectations after losing its entire starting backfield and several other key players from last season. Expectation will be much higher next season for a team that should be loaded and in the state title hunt for the foreseeable future. That will be true, regardless of what offense Coach Matney chooses to run, and regardless of the Golden Eagles' strength of schedule.

I would find it hard to put JC as the 3rd best team 2006-2014, yes maybe one or 2 of those years but for sure not all those years. Just take last year and this year, I put Collins (last year), Lex Cath, Boyle and Cov Cath ahead of them. Still to be determined this year is if Owensboro and Madisonville are better, their body of work tells me they are better.

[Hoot Gibson]

I don't think anyone has trouble giving JC credit for their success. Myself like many others would just simply love to see them take it a step further.

Now for the 2nd part of the bolded statement. Do you think JC would have been as inexperienced had they played a tougher schedule? If they were playing more competitive games then you wouldn't be sitting your starters for half of most games you played. Those young inexperienced players would have twice the playing time and experience come playoff time. Would you agree with that??

I am not slamming JC at all. I want to see them succeed as much as any JC fan. I just don't see the need of bashing people when they point out the obvious.

You are correct no other team in the area would stand a chance against Highlands nor CC. That is why other programs would love to see JC step up their competition. Most all of us want JC to beat these teams and represent the eastern part 41-28of the state in BG.

My point is not to boast that no other eastern Kentucky team would stand a chance against Highlands or Covington Catholic, my point is after Highlands and Covington Catholic, no other program that has competed in their class during that period has been more successful. Some other teams have played a much tougher schedule, and some other teams have run offenses similar to Highlands and Covington Catholic, but none of them have been more successful than Johnson Central, whether they hail from eastern Kentucky, or anywhere else in the state.

From 2008 through 2010, Johnson Central defeated Covington Catholic by scores of 49-14, 51-32, and 41-28. In each of those seasons, the Colonels played a much stronger schedule than Johnson Central.

You and others continue to ignore the fact that Harlan County and Perry County Central were expected to be much better when those games were put on the schedule. And although Johnson Central decimated Ashland, their game against Highlands showed that the Tomcats were much better than they looked against the Golden Eagles.

There is more to building a winning football team than the schedule. There are quite a few 4A teams that play a tougher schedule than JC, and few of them would avoid being blown out by JC if they met on the field.

I think that Johnson Central is perfectly justified in pursuing two year contracts, where teams travel to Paintsville for one game, and schools have to put fans in the seats to cover their expenses. As I have said many times, I would love to see Highlands and Covington Catholic on Johnson Central's schedule next year and beyond. However, if the 'Birds and Colonels can schedule tough teams closer to home, nobody can blame them if they decline a 4 hour bus ride to Paintsville.

[Hoot Gibson]

I would find it hard to put JC as the 3rd best team 2006-2014, yes maybe one or 2 of those years but for sure not all those years. Just take last year and this year, I put Collins (last year), Lex Cath, Boyle and Cov Cath ahead of them. Still to be determined this year is if Owensboro and Madisonville are better, their body of work tells me they are better.

Hence, the word "arguably" in my statement. You can take the past two years and make a good argument, but if you study the scores from 2006 through this season, your argument will be much weaker. That is why I chose the time period that includes Johnson Central's first and last meeting with Covington Catholic.

You, on the other hand, chose to cherry pick two years in which the Golden Eagles teams were among their weakest of the nine-year period that I had used as the basis for my statement. Obviously, both my claim that Johnson Central has been the third best team in their class over the past 9 seasons is not inconsistent with your cherry picking the past two seasons and claiming the contrary about that limited sample size. Apples to oranges.

[sstack]

Hence, the word "arguably" in my statement. You can take the past two years and make a good argument, but if you study the scores from 2006 through this season, your argument will be much weaker. That is why I chose the time period that includes Johnson Central's first and last meeting with Covington Catholic.

You, on the other hand, chose to cherry pick two years in which the Golden Eagles teams were among their weakest of the nine-year period that I had used as the basis for my statement. Obviously, both my claim that Johnson Central has been the third best team in their class over the past 9 seasons is not inconsistent with your cherry picking the past two seasons and claiming the contrary about that limited sample size. Apples to oranges.

I did not cherry pick! You made it sound like JC was third best team every year during that period 2006-2014. I stated some years they were, but for sure not every year and said just looking at past two years shows that. There are a couple years where I think they were probably 2nd best behind HHS. But to say 3rd best from 2006-2014 is wrong.

[sstack]

My point is not to boast that no other eastern Kentucky team would stand a chance against Highlands or Covington Catholic, my point is after Highlands and Covington Catholic, no other program that has competed in their class during that period has been more successful. Some other teams have played a much tougher schedule, and some other teams have run offenses similar to Highlands and Covington Catholic, but none of them have been more successful than Johnson Central, whether they hail from eastern Kentucky, or anywhere else in the state.

From 2008 through 2010, Johnson Central defeated Covington Catholic by scores of 49-14, 51-32, and 41-28. In each of those seasons, the Colonels played a much stronger schedule than Johnson Central.

You and others continue to ignore the fact that Harlan County and Perry County Central were expected to be much better when those games were put on the schedule. And although Johnson Central decimated Ashland, their game against Highlands showed that the Tomcats were much better than they looked against the Golden Eagles.

There is more to building a winning football team than the schedule. There are quite a few 4A teams that play a tougher schedule than JC, and few of them would avoid being blown out by JC if they met on the field.

I think that Johnson Central is perfectly justified in pursuing two year contracts, where teams travel to Paintsville for one game, and schools have to put fans in the seats to cover their expenses. As I have said many times, I would love to see Highlands and Covington Catholic on Johnson Central's schedule next year and beyond. However, if the 'Birds and Colonels can schedule tough teams closer to home, nobody can blame them if they decline a 4 hour bus ride to Paintsville.

I agree with you on this, a lot of people give JC crap for not playing tougher teams, but as HHS knows it is hard when people are not willing to play you. Highlands was willing to play teams far away and lucky in most cases those teams where willing to come to their place following year. I think with HHS history, it makes it easier to get teams to come play them than it is for JC. HHS traveled because they had too, but as you will see next year, now that local teams are willing to play them (that is another story) they will gladly stay home rather than traveling even if competition is not as good. I think all HHS fans would love to play JC every year, but if the choice is a local away game or 4 hour drive, it is a no brainer to stay home.

[Hoot Gibson]

I did not cherry pick! You made it sound like JC was third best team every year during that period 2006-2014. I stated some years they were, but for sure not every year and said just looking at past two years shows that. There are a couple years where I think they were probably 2nd best behind HHS. But to say 3rd best from 2006-2014 is wrong.

No, I implied no such thing. I chose the time period because it is the period in which Johnson Central and Covington Catholic have played. It would be crazy to argue that Johnson Central was the third best team in their class in ever single year during that period, and I assure you that I am not crazy. As I said, I chose to include the word "arguably," in my statement for a reason, which you chose to ignore. I did not include the word to invite an argument, but simply to say that one can make a strong case for my position.

[Hoot Gibson]

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I agree with you on this, a lot of people give JC crap for not playing tougher teams, but as HHS knows it is hard when people are not willing to play you. Highlands was willing to play teams far away and lucky in most cases those teams where willing to come to their place following year. I think with HHS history, it makes it easier to get teams to come play them than it is for JC. HHS traveled because they had too, but as you will see next year, now that local teams are willing to play them (that is another story) they will gladly stay home rather than traveling even if competition is not as good. I think all HHS fans would love to play JC every year, but if the choice is a local away game or 4 hour drive, it is a no brainer to stay home.

I agree, and from what I understand the playoffs systems of Ohio and West Virginia make good teams in those states, which are also within a reasonable distance of Paintsville, reluctant to risk a loss to Johnson Central. I also do not think that there are many schools as large as Johnson Central in SE Ohio, although there are some great smaller programs like Ironton and Wheelersburg that would be good match-ups in some seasons.

[sstack]

No, I implied no such thing. I chose the time period because it is the period in which Johnson Central and Covington Catholic have played. It would be crazy to argue that Johnson Central was the third best team in their class in ever single year during that period, and I assure you that I am not crazy. As I said, I chose to include the word "arguably," in my statement for a reason, which you chose to ignore. I did not include the word to invite an argument, but simply to say that one can make a strong case for my position.

We might be able to debate that.:biggrin:

[oneijoe]

No, I implied no such thing. ...

"What kills me is that Johnson Central has arguably had the third best 4A teams in the state during the 2006 through 2014 season."


Yes you did...even with the "arguably" thrown in.


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