[mysonis55]

No, no, we didn't call off the dogs. Didn't you read what Coach Herron said in the Williamsburg paper after the game? They just adjusted and started playing better. It had nothing to do with the fact that we quit throwing to the wide open Deon Jackson.

[Flash154]

nicker:circle yes

I am sick of Williamsburg crying about enrollment. When most of your starting players are transfers, you are not entitled to cry enrollment. 1A is no longer in play. Don't deny it, everyone knows it's true. I would also be ashamed to cry about having such a small enrollment one minute, but your test scores are next to last in the state. With so few students to teach, your school should have been number one in academics.

[pjdoug]

I am sick of Williamsburg crying about enrollment. When most of your starting players are transfers, you are not entitled to cry enrollment. 1A is no longer in play. Don't deny it, everyone knows it's true. I would also be ashamed to cry about having such a small enrollment one minute, but your test scores are next to last in the state. With so few students to teach, your school should have been number one in academics.

I'm a Colonels fan :biggrin:

[mysonis55]

If you are a Colonels fan, why do you spend your entire existence defending the burg? We have not said one untrue thing about the burg or slandered them other than pointing out that they play a very very very weak schedule. Then you and ole boy Top Notch circle the wagons and start randomly throwing haymakers.

[pjdoug]

If you are a Colonels fan, why do you spend your entire existence defending the burg? We have not said one untrue thing about the burg or slandered them other than pointing out that they play a very very very weak schedule. Then you and ole boy Top Notch circle the wagons and start randomly throwing haymakers.

because you are arrogant and spend your life telling Williamsburg how to play football.maybe they should hire you for coach :biggrin:.How many more hundreds of times do you need to tell them they have a weak schedule? OCD or what? I'm sure they know by now .I just like trolling >I don't take this seriously :rockon:

[mysonis55]

I am arrogant, or maybe just making a suggestion?

[pjdoug]

I am arrogant, or maybe just making a suggestion?

seriously they should hire you. their line play could be improved so they could compete with a tougher schedule.

[pjdoug]

are you for hire?

[Mayfieldsportsfan]

are you for hire?

The burg doesn't have enough money for 55! :please::policeman

[mysonis55]

If the pay was right. That and they changed their name, mascot and colors. No, I don't think I could even then. You can rest assured that they would play stiffer competition if I was there though. We might even play teams as tough as Marshall Co and the two Fultons to start out. That would be a slight step up.

[KYHSFBFan]

This thread has turned into a "Mines Bigger than Yours".. Geez !! Here's what I say about all this":

1) Yes, W'Burg's schedule isn't as good as some other of the 1a teams. But, with 18 or 19 starters returning from last year, they have plenty of big game experience from last year that this schedule won't hurt them. If they lose, it'll be because someone else played better or simply had a better team, not because they didn't play a strong schedule. This team has played N.Laurel, Wayne Co, Mayfield, Raceland, Hazard, Newport in the last year, so, that will be more than sufficient to know what they'll be up against come playoff time...

2) Pikeville has a quality win over Belfry. I give them that. But, what have they proven in the playoffs in the past 15-20 years. Those are the big games, not an early season regular season game that has no bearing on anything other than bragging rights. It proves they can compete with anyone on a given day. That's it, but, until they prove something in the playoffs, all the barking in the world and chest thumping is irrelevant..

3) Mayfield has a good defense. I think everyone on here would agree with that. I also think everyone would agree that the offense is a step or 2 behind the last couple of Cardinal teams. I would also say that the schedule is not as good as it's been in the past few years. Same teams, but, different years and this years version of Ft Campbell, PT, Graves isn't as good as some prior versions. I doubt Mayfield will call off the dogs this year, either because they won't make it to the finals or if they do, because the game will be much closer than last year..

4) Not to many on here talking about Raceland or Hazard from the east and to be honest, I'm picking Raceland to come out of the east this year. I think they're playing the best ball of any right now and it won't surprise me to see them upset Ironton in a couple of weeks, a team that would likely beat most of the 2a and 3a teams in Ky.. Hazard is a team that has the coaching staff that's been there, done that. That's a huge factor in the playoffs. If they get healthy by the 3rd round of the playoffs, they're more than capable of beating anyone out there..

[mysonis55]

KY, I bet your starting to understand how crazy your post above was at the #3 spot now. I didn't get it then and now for sure. The schedule we played this year is exactly as tough as last year if not tougher. Fort Campbell is down, but not much more than last year. McCracken is certainly better than last year. PT is exactly the same as last year. Murray is about the same as last year, but more physical. Graves is exactly the same as last year. Marshall is maybe a bit better this year. Fulton City is better this year. Fulton Co is about the same. Russellville is very close to the same, maybe faster. Caldwell was on a record pace scoring 57 points per game as opposed to in the 40's last year. I did a comparison about 2 weeks ago on a thread. The combined opp records at that time was the exact same as last year at that time.

[mysonis55]

Finally someone is starting to smell what I have been cooking, about the cardinals defense. I read the Mayfield Messenger from yest and they speak right to this point. In the article about the Caldwell game the reporter writes "But don't forget about Mayfield's defense, which has allowed the fewest points by any class A program in the state arguably against one of the toughest non-district schedules in class A.

[killbilly usmc]

I can't argue about hoow the defense is doing especially after last Friday. Everyone from Caldwell I've talked to before the game said there offense is definitly better this year than last. I'll be the first to admit I was thinking we was likely going to lose. The offense was also better than I thought it would be. I figured the offense would struggle, then the defense would get wore down, but both sides came through. Never would I have dreamed the defense would only allow 1 first down, and about 60 yards in the whole second half. They hadn't played a tough schedule by any means, but were averaging about 50 points in the first half. We were 2 plays from holding them scoreless. 1 play where someone left there man when sindelar scrambled, and a td that the ball came out when the received rolled that I'm still scratching my head about since I've never seen it considered a catch in any NFL or college replay that I've ever seen.

[PHSForever]

This thread has turned into a "Mines Bigger than Yours".. Geez !! Here's what I say about all this":

1) Yes, W'Burg's schedule isn't as good as some other of the 1a teams. But, with 18 or 19 starters returning from last year, they have plenty of big game experience from last year that this schedule won't hurt them. If they lose, it'll be because someone else played better or simply had a better team, not because they didn't play a strong schedule. This team has played N.Laurel, Wayne Co, Mayfield, Raceland, Hazard, Newport in the last year, so, that will be more than sufficient to know what they'll be up against come playoff time...

2) Pikeville has a quality win over Belfry. I give them that. But, what have they proven in the playoffs in the past 15-20 years. Those are the big games, not an early season regular season game that has no bearing on anything other than bragging rights. It proves they can compete with anyone on a given day. That's it, but, until they prove something in the playoffs, all the barking in the world and chest thumping is irrelevant..

3) Mayfield has a good defense. I think everyone on here would agree with that. I also think everyone would agree that the offense is a step or 2 behind the last couple of Cardinal teams. I would also say that the schedule is not as good as it's been in the past few years. Same teams, but, different years and this years version of Ft Campbell, PT, Graves isn't as good as some prior versions. I doubt Mayfield will call off the dogs this year, either because they won't make it to the finals or if they do, because the game will be much closer than last year..

4) Not to many on here talking about Raceland or Hazard from the east and to be honest, I'm picking Raceland to come out of the east this year. I think they're playing the best ball of any right now and it won't surprise me to see them upset Ironton in a couple of weeks, a team that would likely beat most of the 2a and 3a teams in Ky.. Hazard is a team that has the coaching staff that's been there, done that. That's a huge factor in the playoffs. If they get healthy by the 3rd round of the playoffs, they're more than capable of beating anyone out there..

Just a point about your comment in #2 where you ask (referring to Pikeville) "What have they proven in the playoffs in the last 15-20 years?" I think a fair gauge of success is making it to the regional finals. Obviously, you want more, but that's fair, I think. So I decided to look at the records of the 2 undefeated East 1A teams, Pikeville and Williamsburg. Apples to apples.


Won-Loss record since 1990 (as far back as I can find on KHSAA)

Pikeville: 229-87 for a 72% win percentage
Williamsburg: 148-118 for a 56% win percentage

Regional finals:

Pikeville: 13 finals appearances, 5 wins to advance to semi-finals and one finals appearance (1991 state runner up)
Williamsburg: 4 finals appearances, 1 win (last year) to advance to semi-finals and one finals appearance (2013 state runner up)

Overall, there is no doubt who has had the more successful post season in the last 15 or 20 years between the two. And overall, I think it is fair to say Pikeville has still had good post season success. Great? No. But still very good and many schools would be happy to have their record in the playoffs. It's not Mayfield level as of late, but very few are. I didn't compare to Fairview, who as of late (past 10 years or so) has been one of the stronger programs, due to well... Obvious reasons. And I won't compare it to Hazard because them dad burn Bulldogs have ended a few of those seasons. Lol

[baseball1974]

Just a point about your comment in #2 where you ask (referring to Pikeville) "What have they proven in the playoffs in the last 15-20 years?" I think a fair gauge of success is making it to the regional finals. Obviously, you want more, but that's fair, I think. So I decided to look at the records of the 2 undefeated East 1A teams, Pikeville and Williamsburg. Apples to apples.


Won-Loss record since 1990 (as far back as I can find on KHSAA)

Pikeville: 229-87 for a 72% win percentage
Williamsburg: 148-118 for a 56% win percentage

Regional finals:

Pikeville: 13 finals appearances, 5 wins to advance to semi-finals and one finals appearance (1991 state runner up)
Williamsburg: 4 finals appearances, 1 win (last year) to advance to semi-finals and one finals appearance (2013 state runner up)

Overall, there is no doubt who has had the more successful post season in the last 15 or 20 years between the two. And overall, I think it is fair to say Pikeville has still had good post season success. Great? No. But still very good and many schools would be happy to have their record in the playoffs. It's not Mayfield level as of late, but very few are. I didn't compare to Fairview, who as of late (past 10 years or so) has been one of the stronger programs, due to well... Obvious reasons. And I won't compare it to Hazard because them dad burn Bulldogs have ended a few of those seasons. Lol

Can't argue with facts...

[Killer in the Sun]

Can't argue with facts...

Pikeville is a solid club.

[Killer in the Sun]

Can't argue with facts...

Pikeville is a solid program.

[rednblackattack]

This is for TopNotch simply cause of excuse making. Yes it is easier to have a great team when you have more players to choose from. However if you think that is why Mayfield is always good. Wrong. We play an out of class schedule that some 5a schools dont play. Yet we win all bigger schools with more boys to choose from. In the 18 years we were a 2a school (one of the smallest with an enrollment that at the time would have qualified us for 1a but at that time a school could choose to play up. Back in 86 my first year at varsity we dressed 34 players. We beat Newport Central Catholic to win our second straight state title. That year the 2a team with the 1a enrollment also beat Paducah Tilgman and Heath the 3a and 1a state champions. We despite being one of the smallest 2a teams in the days of the 4 class system which means many more teams competing per class. In 18 years we won 5 state championships and had 5 runnerups and only one time did not make the semi finals. So we played in the 2a state championship 10 times out of 18 years and were in the state final 4 all but one year. So all this enrollment crap is just that crap. Pride tradition coaching is what made us a dynasty not enrollment.

[mysonis55]

You just have to see it to understand it. We had a McCracken coach at our fri breakfast a few weeks ago. He was telling about how, I think it was their d coordinator, was asking why they were worrying so much about our little team. He told them, we have them out matched at every single position. Capt. Jack and the others responded, you just don't understand, they ( Mayfield) never quit. They just keep coming at you. I guess he understands now.

[killbilly usmc]

Its all fun, and games till the boys with the plain red helmets step off the bus that says mayfield independent schools.

[mysonis55]

This should be a tough game for us. Caverna is better than last year. Last year they were the only team to score on our starting defense in the playoffs. Our defense will have to be better to pitch a shutout here.

[killbilly usmc]

This should be a tough game for us. Caverna is better than last year. Last year they were the only team to score on our starting defense in the playoffs. Our defense will have to be better to pitch a shutout here.

I know they are better, but you can't believe they are much of a threat 55 stop drinking.

[mysonis55]

They have the formula to score on us apparently.

[pjdoug]

This is for TopNotch simply cause of excuse making. Yes it is easier to have a great team when you have more players to choose from. However if you think that is why Mayfield is always good. Wrong. We play an out of class schedule that some 5a schools dont play. Yet we win all bigger schools with more boys to choose from. In the 18 years we were a 2a school (one of the smallest with an enrollment that at the time would have qualified us for 1a but at that time a school could choose to play up. Back in 86 my first year at varsity we dressed 34 players. We beat Newport Central Catholic to win our second straight state title. That year the 2a team with the 1a enrollment also beat Paducah Tilgman and Heath the 3a and 1a state champions. We despite being one of the smallest 2a teams in the days of the 4 class system which means many more teams competing per class. In 18 years we won 5 state championships and had 5 runnerups and only one time did not make the semi finals. So we played in the 2a state championship 10 times out of 18 years and were in the state final 4 all but one year. So all this enrollment crap is just that crap. Pride tradition coaching is what made us a dynasty not enrollment.

good assesment but you forgot to mention recruiting :biglmao:

[pjdoug]

I know they are better, but you can't believe they are much of a threat 55 stop drinking.

he knows and we know they are a cupcake

[killbilly usmc]

They do seem to be a step up this year.

[pjdoug]

The burg doesn't have enough money for 55! :please::policeman

You'd be surprised how much money The Burg has.

[pjdoug]

They do seem to be a step up this year.

seriously they are a team I have never watched. what kind of offense do they run?

[killbilly usmc]

Caverna could be worse, they could be a suzie q like whitley.