[baseball1974]

Here are the coaches. Joey Cecil,, Alan Short, Bryan Short, John Caudill. Ex players who help. Where good too. Shane Pack, Kyle Carter, Travis Hughes. The rest fans with better seats than me. Shane Pack could be a good coach. Maybe a few others. Maybe a great coach somwhere in the mix. Just trying to lighten the mood. All of them seem dedicated especially thode who dont get paid. Dougie is the most dedicated but not a coach. Way too much confusion. We have more coached than ky.

I may be wrong but it appears there are a few on that list that came back after Salmons left? I know he tried his best to clean house, but its hard to tell alumni no it some cases? Its fine to let them hang out, but I don't see anyone on that list besides the Shorts that could be an effective OC or DC? Cecil is and would be a dandy assistant coach, but that's it. He doesn't gain enough respect from his players to be a head coach. Its possible he could do good at a different school? Maybe Allen Central or Betsy Layne or even Boyd, but if LC wants to get back to being a dominant team in the state they need to invest in somebody that can get them there. If I remember correctly, Goldsmith had some of the same issues with coaches? He never could tell anyone no, and it ended up bringing the entire program down to lowest its ever been. Assistant coaches have to know their role and maintain it. Otherwise, you have a handful of them that think they can do a better job and their dislike for the decisions being made is well-known to the players. You can't build a program like that. I've known coaches that were not great but they surrounded themselves with smart loyal people and nobody ever knew otherwise.

[catwoman]

I was being nice. Glorified managers and a few assistant coaches. I. Could coach that team. Why not. Look whats over there. Some of the young guys like pack could make good coaches. The shorts did well in college but you need experience. I deserve to stand on the sidelines as much as anyone. Played on the first lc team and have watched every single team

[In the pound]

its time to give a certain wright a call about a coaching job and bring him back to louisa where he loves it. jmo

[Lcdawg11]

First off, Dalton did not initiate the trash talking on Friday night. #23 from raceland was the one who was "jawboning". If you were at the game you would have seen that dalton didn't react in any sort of way. Dalton himself told me that he did not say a single word. He said that #23 of raceland spit on him and was talking trash to him. Dalton walked away and went to the sidelines. He handles the situation very maturely. There was no need for an ejection. Dalton is an amazing kid and you all beat him up like he's some kind of punk. Before you go and run your mouth about the kid on in the Internet, sit down and have a conversation with this young man. You will quickly change your outlook on him. Yes he got thrown out of the breathitt game but he was not the only one. You all songs him out. If you watch the film #83 from breathitt clearly kicks Dalton in the back of the leg as Dalton is plainly standing there. He is no doubt one of the best athletes in this area. He was confidence in himself as a player. He believes in his abilities. He acts no different than any of you would if you were playing Highschool football. Anyone who truly knows Timmy Dalton will tell you that he is a good kid. Who are you all to judge a 15 year old kid?

[Do-double-gg]

its time to give a certain wright a call about a coaching job and bring him back to louisa where he loves it. jmo

^This^ That would be the coaching hire of my dreams! I will tell you one thing we would not have with a hire like that.............."soft defense"!

[In the pound]

I truly believe Mr.wright could bring lc to new heights. I never want to see anyone lose their job but im tired of watching lc go through the same old story. enough is enough last friday night was the last straw. how the heck do you get worse as the season goes on. i know the kids work really hard but something is just not right with the system. two you could also say three years in a row the team gets worse each game. It's time to take the blinders off

[baseball1974]

First off, Dalton did not initiate the trash talking on Friday night. #23 from raceland was the one who was "jawboning". If you were at the game you would have seen that dalton didn't react in any sort of way. Dalton himself told me that he did not say a single word. He said that #23 of raceland spit on him and was talking trash to him. Dalton walked away and went to the sidelines. He handles the situation very maturely. There was no need for an ejection. Dalton is an amazing kid and you all beat him up like he's some kind of punk. Before you go and run your mouth about the kid on in the Internet, sit down and have a conversation with this young man. You will quickly change your outlook on him. Yes he got thrown out of the breathitt game but he was not the only one. You all songs him out. If you watch the film #83 from breathitt clearly kicks Dalton in the back of the leg as Dalton is plainly standing there. He is no doubt one of the best athletes in this area. He was confidence in himself as a player. He believes in his abilities. He acts no different than any of you would if you were playing Highschool football. Anyone who truly knows Timmy Dalton will tell you that he is a good kid. Who are you all to judge a 15 year old kid?

Anything I have said is not directed at the kid himself. It could be any kid that did the same thing and I would say the same thing. I think that probably goes for most people that have commented on the situation. The adults in that kid's life have failed him, especially his coach. He's played in two games in the last three weeks and he didn't finish either of them. At some point people have to stop making excuses for him and let him learn some life lessons. Every Friday night in every city in America, kids playing high school are going to run their mouth. Its just a natural thing that seems to happen when you play a physical sport that involves contact with the opposition. The difference is the adults that are surrounding the majority of high school football players are teaching them boundaries and consequences. They know their kids are going to be trashed talked, but the job they've done teaching them maturity and how to think about consequences oversees any impulse decisions they may make. Most kids know when they are winning the other team will try and get under their skin, but they know they can point to the scoreboard and it be over. In the same situation, you'll have kids at the bottom of a pile try and get a cheap shot or pinch or try and provoke them physically. However, their coaches have done a good enough job coaching them to understand the one that retaliates always gets caught. That's when most kids will weigh the consequences against the reaction and a smart decision comes out of it. However, for whatever reason those lessons have not been learned yet and he's old enough to where if its not dealt with it will absolutely follow him into adulthood. This stuff should have been taught to him in junior leagues or even middle school. I feel bad for him and I hope he can turn it around? I do think, however, posting that its not his fault is very counterproductive. Maybe this suspension will open his eyes?

[Scotty_Bronson]

Maverick Dixon of Raceland was also ejected so his part in the altercation was assessed as well. He and Dalton we chippy with eachother all night. To say Dalton did "nothing" is ignorant. No one is chastizing or coming down on the kid. He is an really good athelete and has a bright future. But so many times we have seen that and attitudes on and off the field stifle an athelete and their goals. I hope he gets things turned around, he is a great athelete.

[baseball1974]

^This^ That would be the coaching hire of my dreams! I will tell you one thing we would not have with a hire like that.............."soft defense"!

Which "Wright?"

Coaches with the last name "Wright" are ridiculously common for some reason?

You have Larry or "Bud," Vernon, Kevin, Kent, Mark, Tommy, Robert, Darrell, Matthew, Lynn, Jahmal, Michael, Dickey, Brad, Todd, Ronald, Jack, Josh, Steve, Nathan, Kenyatta, Charles, and I also know of a Coach Wright that is the head coach at Raleigh Egypt High School. These guys are all descent coaches, but I am not 100% sure they'd move to Louisa?

I will say, however, that I hope you're talking about Donate Wright? Last I heard he was coaching at Morehead? I think he is the type of head coach that the community and the players would have no issue giving respect starting day one. The only issue would be if he wanted to drop a level in order to get head coaching experience? He seems to be having a great career so far coaching college, and I know for myself I worried if being a head coach on the high school level would hurt me more than anything if I wanted to eventually be a college head coach? Depending on the Athletic Director it may, but he has experience at the college level, and it may give him a chance to see what level he wants to be on? I, for one, would absolutely love if that happened. Eastern KY high school football is better for everyone when there are multiple teams that can dominate statewide. He has the playing and coaching experience, its his home, the players would immediately give him respect, and to top it off he would be coaching with passion every time he stepped on that field. I also don't think he'd carry the Walton's as a coaching staff? I'd personally contribute to that hat if it got passed around to match his salary. He is definitely a great candidate and I hope they pursue it?

[dawgeers]

I truly believe Mr.wright could bring lc to new heights. I never want to see anyone lose their job but im tired of watching lc go through the same old story. enough is enough last friday night was the last straw. how the heck do you get worse as the season goes on. i know the kids work really hard but something is just not right with the system. two you could also say three years in a row the team gets worse each game. It's time to take the blinders off

It's easy to see most of you all have never been part of a TEAM. After one loss, you want to fire the coach and change the entire system. Wow, glad you all weren't fighting WWII or the world would have been different today.


Just a couple of weeks ago, you same people were pumping this team up. Now, after a bad game, and YES, it was a bad GAME, you want to scrap the season and throw in the towel and fire coaches. Amazing how fickle some of you are. Again, showing you weren't ever part of at team. Sure, you might have played a sport, but you truly didn't understand the BROTHERHOOD of being part of a team. Sticking together through the toughest of times is what bonds you more than ever. And you all have shown that you couldn't hang with these coaches or athletes in the toughest of times. Congrats. Now, do what I said earlier.....donate your LCHS gear to Goodwill and find another team to cheer for because you aren't Bulldogs.

[baseball1974]

It's easy to see most of you all have never been part of a TEAM. After one loss, you want to fire the coach and change the entire system. Wow, glad you all weren't fighting WWII or the world would have been different today.


Just a couple of weeks ago, you same people were pumping this team up. Now, after a bad game, and YES, it was a bad GAME, you want to scrap the season and throw in the towel and fire coaches. Amazing how fickle some of you are. Again, showing you weren't ever part of at team. Sure, you might have played a sport, but you truly didn't understand the BROTHERHOOD of being part of a team. Sticking together through the toughest of times is what bonds you more than ever. And you all have shown that you couldn't hang with these coaches or athletes in the toughest of times. Congrats. Now, do what I said earlier.....donate your LCHS gear to Goodwill and find another team to cheer for because you aren't Bulldogs.

They were pumping them up because I think they were still trying to be supportive, even though things had been going downhill long before the loss. The loss was just what sent them over the edge. Just my opinion, please correct me if I'm wrong? I think one thing the loss to Raceland showed was the inability to be competitive against a team they were favored to beat. Another thing that usually represents is a coach that has lost his locker room. Everyone I think was hoping, even though the Breathitt game was ugly, that it would somehow unite them as a team? Instead it went the other direction. Whether that has to do with how it was handled, or if maybe they've had issues on the horizon that are just now showing with the competition getting tougher, something has to happen in order for them to unite as a team? If its the coach and they know he's not going anywhere, then I've seen teams unite in-spight of their coach. I don't know any of the details, but outside looking in that is my overall observation.

[School Admin.]

Bluegrassrivals, the home of the greatest coaches in the world! Every decision is right, every play is a touchdown, defenses hold offenses to zero yards, and there are no penalties, turnovers, or no need for adjustments, because everyone has everything figured out! You know, I have been around football for over 30 years as a player and a coach, and I have yet to figure out how someone gets "out coached" I think that is a comical term used by people who can't line up 11 to play on a football field. I realize that coaching is a high stress and high pressure position, but I also know that people have hidden agendas and when teams hit a bump in the road, those folks always seem to come to the forefront with all these reasons why a coach should be replaced...... I'm wondering if someone would take a look at the people complaining a little closer if some of these things would be revealed..... Just my 2 cents worth.

[baseball1974]

Bluegrassrivals, the home of the greatest coaches in the world! Every decision is right, every play is a touchdown, defenses hold offenses to zero yards, and there are no penalties, turnovers, or no need for adjustments, because everyone has everything figured out! You know, I have been around football for over 30 years as a player and a coach, and I have yet to figure out how someone gets "out coached" I think that is a comical term used by people who can't line up 11 to play on a football field. I realize that coaching is a high stress and high pressure position, but I also know that people have hidden agendas and when teams hit a bump in the road, those folks always seem to come to the forefront with all these reasons why a coach should be replaced...... I'm wondering if someone would take a look at the people complaining a little closer if some of these things would be revealed..... Just my 2 cents worth.

To say that you weren't "out-coached" would be putting all the blame on your players. Any good coach with any type of integrity will always take responsibility for the losses and let the players enjoy the wins. Getting "out-coached" is a phrase that is directed at descent coaches that for whatever reason was not prepared mentally or physically to compete against another team. Every good coach in the world has been out-coached at one time or another.

[dawgeers]

To say that you weren't "out-coached" would be putting all the blame on your players. Any good coach with any type of integrity will always take responsibility for the losses and let the players enjoy the wins. Getting "out-coached" is a phrase that is directed at descent coaches that for whatever reason was not prepared mentally or physically to compete against another team. Every good coach in the world has been out-coached at one time or another.

Well, to be honest, the team with the better players will win 99% of the time. If you have Vince Lombardi coaching a team full of JV players and playing a team full of varsity players, you think "coaching ability" will win that game? Not blaming the players, but that's how it works out. The better team will win, usually. There are times of upsets, but that normally is a combination of several things. One of which is LUCK. Yes, LUCK plays a huge part of upsets. Coaching ability is good for preparing the team throughout the week.

[School Admin.]

To say that you weren't "out-coached" would be putting all the blame on your players. Any good coach with any type of integrity will always take responsibility for the losses and let the players enjoy the wins. Getting "out-coached" is a phrase that is directed at descent coaches that for whatever reason was not prepared mentally or physically to compete against another team. Every good coach in the world has been out-coached at one time or another.

Going by that logic, if I coached a team like Phelps against Belfry and I would most certainly lose, so that would mean that I wasn't prepared mentally or physically to compete against them? LOL Also, to say that someone is not "out coached" is not putting blame on anyone, sometimes teams are just better and all the coaching in the world will not change that.

[In the pound]

Baseball 1974 is correct nobody is jumping ship after one loss. Three years and every game you get worse. did you watch the game friday the players looked like deer in headlights. no excuse to get worse as the season goes along.

[In the pound]

Raceland had one voice on the sideline. lc has about 15 lol it's the truth.

[baseball1974]

Going by that logic, if I coached a team like Phelps against Belfry and I would most certainly lose, so that would mean that I wasn't prepared mentally or physically to compete against them? LOL Also, to say that someone is not "out coached" is not putting blame on anyone, sometimes teams are just better and all the coaching in the world will not change that.

I really hope your not "coaching" anymore because that is embarrassing for any coach to say. You would lose to belfry because they're are a better team, but that's not how you get out coached. LC was the favorite going into Friday and they didn't just lose they got humiliated in front of their home crowd. If anyone thought Raceland was just that much better then I doubt there would be any talk? Some of what you've said in the last three posts is an insult to any coach that gives his time and passion to the game. You do have to have talent but that's a very small part of it. LC had just as much talent as Raceland and they were blown out. If you're apart of the staff, which I assume you are, then you did not prepare these kids, you're game plan was either terrible or you didn't prepare them enough to execute it, they have not learned what a winning team atmosphere looks like, and from the looks of how the team is performing, you've not prepared them mentally. There are several teams all over the state and especially in eastern KY that have had talent and not gotten results, but all of a sudden a coach comes in with credibility, experience, knowledge, and respects the game enough to prepare his players for anything and they start winning and they keep winning. Not because of an overload of talent but because of the consistent system in place.

[dawg fan]

I am sure if you really know anything about football you would agree lc had a good game plan they stop raceland on their 1st drive then run the ball right down the field and scored. Would it surprise you that lc had more yards on the ground than raceland with less attempts. Do you really think that kiser is going to have 6 turnovers in game again this year. You commit 7 turnovers you are going to loose. If I remember correctly lc only punted the ball 2 times. And turned it over on downs 2 time. The rest of the time turnovers, which raceland took advantage of, as good teams do. Once raceland was ahead they could open up their playbook and try anything they wanted. Pcc will determine the dawgs season.

[Dawgfan123]

I've not been a.dog fan, jjst for a couple years. But truly am on now. I don't run down kids or that matter , coaches. That said, anybody, attending games, can see there is something wrong , with this team. Most on thist ste cannt be ring
Wrong. Hope , someone can fix it. Hoping the coach will.:please:

[School Admin.]

I really hope your not "coaching" anymore because that is embarrassing for any coach to say. You would lose to belfry because they're are a better team, but that's not how you get out coached. LC was the favorite going into Friday and they didn't just lose they got humiliated in front of their home crowd. If anyone thought Raceland was just that much better then I doubt there would be any talk? Some of what you've said in the last three posts is an insult to any coach that gives his time and passion to the game. You do have to have talent but that's a very small part of it. LC had just as much talent as Raceland and they were blown out. If you're apart of the staff, which I assume you are, then you did not prepare these kids, you're game plan was either terrible or you didn't prepare them enough to execute it, they have not learned what a winning team atmosphere looks like, and from the looks of how the team is performing, you've not prepared them mentally. There are several teams all over the state and especially in eastern KY that have had talent and not gotten results, but all of a sudden a coach comes in with credibility, experience, knowledge, and respects the game enough to prepare his players for anything and they start winning and they keep winning. Not because of an overload of talent but because of the consistent system in place.

If you think talent is a very small part of having a good team, you know nothing about coaching football. With that being said, get off the computer and take the sidelines and show us how it's all done.

[Do-double-gg]

It's easy to see most of you all have never been part of a TEAM. After one loss, you want to fire the coach and change the entire system. Wow, glad you all weren't fighting WWII or the world would have been different today.


Just a couple of weeks ago, you same people were pumping this team up. Now, after a bad game, and YES, it was a bad GAME, you want to scrap the season and throw in the towel and fire coaches. Amazing how fickle some of you are. Again, showing you weren't ever part of at team. Sure, you might have played a sport, but you truly didn't understand the BROTHERHOOD of being part of a team. Sticking together through the toughest of times is what bonds you more than ever. And you all have shown that you couldn't hang with these coaches or athletes in the toughest of times. Congrats. Now, do what I said earlier.....donate your LCHS gear to Goodwill and find another team to cheer for because you aren't Bulldogs.

After one loss?? Listen I have followed Lawrence County football for about 26 years now. I go to every home game and every road game that I can that work permits. I love high school football because it is the purest form of the game that I love. I have seen good, bad and mediocre football at this school in 26 years and right now we are on the edge of bad/mediocre. Not everyone can be a coach and not everyone can be a good coach. You and everyone on here knows that we have had better coaching then this in the past so why should we settle for mediocre. We have a lot of talent on this team but they are disorganized and unsound and that is all coaching. We have kids on this team who in their 4th year of playing out there on defense with no clue what they are doing and that is all coaching. We schedule some of the worst teams in the state to try and hide how mediocre we are every season. I was trying my best all preseason to have some faith in this staff and get excited about the team this year but I am seeing the same stuff that I have seen the last three years. It's all on film and film don't lie. We are playing bad teams and we have horrible fundamentals and mass confusion on both sides of the ball. What happend Friday night was beyond just a bad game. We beat this Raceland team last year who IMO was probably just a little better last year. This game should have never been a blowout but Raceland made us look like a middle school team. I saw a couple of kids on the sideline about to fight and the coaching staff was clueless. I have noticed on several occasions the kids on this team having a lack of respect or trust or something for this head coach. I have talked to a few people in PM's about this and I hesitated to post it public but the perfect example of this was in the Sheldon Clark game last year. When the team came out in the 3rd quarter after playing a bad 1st half all the kids were just standing on the sideline and the head coach was screaming and yelling for em to go out and warm up and every kid on the team bucked up and refused and just stood and looked at him. It took coach Short coming all the way down out of the booth to put a little fire under em and they ran out on the field like chickens with their heads cut off like they trust and respect him. Im not the only person at the game who saw this because we had probably 4 or 5 hundred people in the stands at the time and several other posters on here saw it also. Something is wrong with this team and staff and we have some real trust and respect issues between coaches and players and teams who are not playing up to the talent level every season and I hate to see such a waste.

[Do-double-gg]

Which "Wright?"

Coaches with the last name "Wright" are ridiculously common for some reason?

You have Larry or "Bud," Vernon, Kevin, Kent, Mark, Tommy, Robert, Darrell, Matthew, Lynn, Jahmal, Michael, Dickey, Brad, Todd, Ronald, Jack, Josh, Steve, Nathan, Kenyatta, Charles, and I also know of a Coach Wright that is the head coach at Raleigh Egypt High School. These guys are all descent coaches, but I am not 100% sure they'd move to Louisa?

I will say, however, that I hope you're talking about Donate Wright? Last I heard he was coaching at Morehead? I think he is the type of head coach that the community and the players would have no issue giving respect starting day one. The only issue would be if he wanted to drop a level in order to get head coaching experience? He seems to be having a great career so far coaching college, and I know for myself I worried if being a head coach on the high school level would hurt me more than anything if I wanted to eventually be a college head coach? Depending on the Athletic Director it may, but he has experience at the college level, and it may give him a chance to see what level he wants to be on? I, for one, would absolutely love if that happened. Eastern KY high school football is better for everyone when there are multiple teams that can dominate statewide. He has the playing and coaching experience, its his home, the players would immediately give him respect, and to top it off he would be coaching with passion every time he stepped on that field. I also don't think he'd carry the Walton's as a coaching staff? I'd personally contribute to that hat if it got passed around to match his salary. He is definitely a great candidate and I hope they pursue it?

That is the exact Wright he was talking about. With a hire like that the Man would have the full trust and respect of this community. He would also hire a top notch staff right out of the gate. He is from here and played here but he is not your typical "good ole boy" as some like to refer to it on here.

[baseball1974]

If you think talent is a very small part of having a good team, you know nothing about coaching football. With that being said, get off the computer and take the sidelines and show us how it's all done.

Talent isn't a small part of winning. It's takes coaching to know what to do with that talent and how to put a competitive team on the field every week. When you have good solid programs, kids begin at a small age wanting to be apart of it and incoming freshman already have a winning attitude because they know what kind of program they are in. I remember for years and years reading about some of the LC teams and it seemed like that was the case for many years. Kids knew once they got to high school their coach was going to put them in opportunities to succeed. That's where respect comes from. I don't know what you've done to lose their respect but instead of coming after me I'd suggest you figure that out first, because I'm sure the community will only tolerate it for so long? Nobody should accept losing or be fine with mediocrity. Just from the little that I've seen they've been extremely loyal and supportive, but it also seems they know when the wheels are about to come off?

[In the pound]

Like most of us have said we love lc football to much to watch medicore football.good coaches don't let a team get worse every season. This is three straight years the dawgs have took steps backward. I would bet money Boyd co could beat lc right now. Something about this coaching staff is off. Film doesn't lie. I respect the kids hard work and I would love to be a fly on the wall to see what is really going on behind closed doors.

[baseball1974]

Has Cecil ever coached anywhere else? I know he's been at LC for a long time as an assistant, but didn't know if he coached anywhere before that?

[Dawg Family]

He was the head coach at east carter before coming to LC. With Gary Mcpeek

[baseball1974]

He was the head coach at east carter before coming to LC. With Gary Mcpeek

Okay thanks I wasn't sure? I wonder if his administration job will have anything to do with a possible decision of changing head coaches?

[Dawg Family]

He was also on the Russell coaching staff before East Carter

[Scotty_Bronson]

I am sure if you really know anything about football you would agree lc had a good game plan they stop raceland on their 1st drive then run the ball right down the field and scored. Would it surprise you that lc had more yards on the ground than raceland with less attempts. Do you really think that kiser is going to have 6 turnovers in game again this year. You commit 7 turnovers you are going to loose. If I remember correctly lc only punted the ball 2 times. And turned it over on downs 2 time. The rest of the time turnovers, which raceland took advantage of, as good teams do. Once raceland was ahead they could open up their playbook and try anything they wanted. Pcc will determine the dawgs season.

Have to agree. Between the 30s LC ran the ball effectively. Their 3 trips inside the redzone resulted in turnovers either on downs or other wise, and a touchdown. Raceland made really good adjustments after the 1st drive. All but 2 of the 7 turnovers were forced by the Rams though. Imo, LC wasnt quite as good as anticipated, they overlooked Raceland a bit and Raceland came out and smacked them in the mouth each and everytime someone from LC had the ball. Outside of LCs scoring drive, Raceland bent bt did not break and did an incredible job at getting alot of Raceland guys on ball carriers to force fumbles. Raceland probably played their best defensive game of the year. You can put up all the numbers in the world by ground, air, or sea for that matter. But in football, eapecially hs football, there are only 2 that really matter. Turnovers and Penalties. Both can kill a teams chance at a win. Raceland has suffered from that the last 4 years against Ashland. Raceland should be 3-1 against Ashland the last 4 years. But turnovers and penalties led to losses. Cant beat, even a descent team, turning the ball over and having multiple 15 yard penalties.