[HDE]

They fit better geographically, both in distance and safety.
I don't know Hazard's reasoning. I haven't asked anyone.
If I'm Hazard I don't want to travel to Williamsburg or Lynn Camp.
I also wouldn't mind the fact that I can count on three wins every year, if that's what you're looking for, kind of like Pikeville's district for as long as I can remember. I remember it was a big deal when Fleming Neon beat them one year.

[HDE]

You're the one using 24 minutes and a gallon of gas. You came up with that. Have I used that as an argument anywhere?

[jetpilot]

They fit better geographically, both in distance and safety.
I don't know Hazard's reasoning. I haven't asked anyone.
If I'm Hazard I don't want to travel to Williamsburg or Lynn Camp.
I also wouldn't mind the fact that I can count on three wins every year, if that's what you're looking for, kind of like Pikeville's district for as long as I can remember. I remember it was a big deal when Fleming Neon beat them one year.

24 minutes, appeal denied, case closed. But glad you remember the one year Fleming-Neon won. I remember the 30 years Pikeville won. Every team in the state has the 24 minutes a year argument to get placed in a different district. I'm sure Hazard fans are touched by your concern for their safety.nicker:

[Scotty_Bronson]

My crusade is for doing what's right. Your crusade is for protecting Pikeville.
I'd move South Floyd to the Paintsville district, or maybe Pikeville after seeing that map.

Tbh, logisitcally and travel wise, that makes more sense. A straight shot up or down 23. Then leave Hazard and Williamsburg together. That would balance things out from a competition standpoint as well. It would make winning the district something that mattered. Im all for putting the tie breakers to use. Preparing for the playoffs sometimes means you have to take one on the chin. And on the eastern side, good quality competition is hard for the single A squads to come by. In Racelands region, Johnson Central, Ashland, and Russell are all the big schools with any type of credentials. For Pikeville, there's Belfrey and Prestonsburg. Williamsburg seems to have the same problem. Some of these big schools argue they have nothing to gain by playing a significantly smaller school. If they lose, its bad, if they win, they should have. Raceland and Ashland's series has been pretty well handled by Ashland. But every 4 or 5 years, Raceland puts together 2 or 3 wins in a 3 or 4 year span. Its become a great rivalry snd both teams get to see where they stand early on in the season. I think having the regular contenders in a district togethef or atleast 2 of them is a great idea.

[bac2369]

I'm not sure of hazards reason but winning the district in the even years ensure 4 home playoff games and normally having pikeville an hazard in the same district it's possible they would meet up again and the higher seed of the two would get home in the third round and only have travel for the 4th round.

[Scotty_Bronson]

I was thinking that as well. Which isnt that far of a drive. Raceland was in a district with LCA, Nicholas Co, Fairview and Paris for awhile. Outside of Fairview and Raceland games, that was alot of travel for all involved. There's no good way about it really. Either the studs r together or spread apart. Traveling is part of it bc the sigle A schools in the East are so spread apart. There's no way around someone having to drive a few hrs. I for one think that plays into playoff preperstion as well. Thats why Id like to see Raceland put a Prestonsburg, Bellevue orCorbin on the schedule. That would provide good competition after a good drive. Traveling to Nicholas County, only to play your starters for 3 or 4 series the first two quarters isnt preparing anyone for anything.

[64SUR]

24 minutes, appeal denied, case closed. But glad you remember the one year Fleming-Neon won. I remember the 30 years Pikeville won. Every team in the state has the 24 minutes a year argument to get placed in a different district. I'm sure Hazard fans are touched by your concern for their safety.nicker:

I can understand why pikeville and the khssa wouldn't want hazard in pikeville district....someone every 30yrs could upset them. nicker: Cakewalk district champion.....I think everybody see the writing on the wall...HAIL PIKEVILLE, HAIL KHSAA :notbad:

[mysonis55]

With the dist the burg is in you are talking about cakewalks.

[topnotch]

Apparently no one wants hazard in there district.

One problem HAZARD was the team that filed the appeal. not the other teams.

[HDE]

With the dist the burg is in you are talking about cakewalks.

That's true for the last five years or so, but Harlan, Lynn Camp and Pineville have had very good teams in the past. I can't remember South Floyd, Phelps or Jenkins even winning a district championship in the past 30 years or so.

[mysonis55]

We never have more than 1 good opp in our dist. That is since 2002. That year we had Murray and probably a top five team in Ballard Memorial. There is no telling how far Ballard could have gone if they weren't in our dist.

[bac2369]

One problem HAZARD was the team that filed the appeal. not the other teams.

Yes hazard is appealing the final appeal not the original. Hazard was in district 8 before Pikeville and Phelps requested to move hazard to district 7.

[HDE]

I wonder what logic Pikeville used for that request - "Hazard should have to drive 24 extra miles so we don't have to play them for the district championship."

[64SUR]

With the dist the burg is in you are talking about cakewalks.

Mysonis55 this whole thing is about hazard next year playing in a cakewalk district playing 4 1A teams. When they can play 3 1A team in pikeville district by moving south Floyd to Raceland district..You are allways talking about toughen teams schedule in the mountains...I can read between the lines hazard don't want to play a weaker schedule.by playing 4 1A teams in one district it not hard to understand. Hazard loves playing up that's why they are call the Hazard Bulldawgs. I see their point on the appeal. :igiveup:

[jetpilot]

Mysonis55 this whole thing is about hazard next year playing in a cakewalk district playing 4 1A teams. When they can play 3 1A team in pikeville district by moving south Floyd to Raceland district..You are allways talking about toughen teams schedule in the mountains...I can read between the lines hazard don't want to play a weaker schedule.by playing 4 1A teams in one district it not hard to understand. Hazard loves playing up that's why they are call the Hazard Bulldawgs. I see their point on the appeal. :igiveup:

Wrong. That is exactly what they are doing by dropping Harlan, Pineville and Lynn Camp and picking up Phelps, South Floyd and Jenkins. It's really not complicated.

[jetpilot]

I wonder what logic Pikeville used for that request - "Hazard should have to drive 24 extra miles so we don't have to play them for the district championship."

Their logic probably was no need to change the alignment we have had for years. As opposed to your argument that US 421 is too dangerous and everyone in District 7 fears for Hazard fans' and team's safety.nicker:

[mysonis55]

Whatever the situation it will not be a problem for hazard.

[zaga_fan]

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[HDE]

You need to get someone to get you out of the big city and drive you around the mountains. No one, including Hazard, takes 421 to get to Lynn Camp or Williamsburg.

[jetpilot]

You need to get someone to get you out of the big city and drive you around the mountains. No one, including Hazard, takes 421 to get to Lynn Camp or Williamsburg.

You were the one who said 421 was too dangerous. I know all the roads in E Ky, been to all the towns in Dist 7 and 8 dozens of times. Back when whining was frowned upon instead of the norm the roads were much worse. Yet teams from Pike, Letcher, Perry and Harlan Co.s and beyond managed to get to the games just fine.

I'm going to spell it out for you one more time. There is NO reason to change the alignments we have had for years in Districts 7 and 8 just to cater to Hazard's unknown agenda. Every school has an agenda and if you cater to Hazard's you have to cater to everyone else's. Again, Hazard has an agenda. Only they know what it is. But for the last time I will say what everyone with half a brain knows: Whatever Hazard's agenda is, it definitely is NOT that two trips a year to Harlan/Pineville/Lynn Camp/Williamsburg are too time consuming or dangerous.

[HDE]

That's odd you didn't know that District 7 changed quite a bit. You might want to review the most recent alignment.
District 7 now has Harlan and Pineville, who were in District 6 and Lynn Camp and Williamsburg, who were in District 5.
The only problem you and Pikeville had, it appears, was avoiding Hazard, even if they had to travel a little farther to make it easier on Pikeville.

[HDE]

You were the one who said 421 was too dangerous.


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I said the KHSAA said it was too dangerous for Harlan County to be in the 14th Region.
I was just a little surprised you had never driven between Harlan and Hazard, or you would have never said everyone had roads like that. You would have to be a certified idiot to compare your roads in Pikeville to 421, and I'm sure you're not.

[pjdoug]

I think hazard and Pikeville and the khsaa is all in on it together. This is all a big front....It has to be or it would be an even district...Where is Five-O :popcorn:

its a conspiracy nicker:

[jetpilot]

I said the KHSAA said it was too dangerous for Harlan County to be in the 14th Region.
I was just a little surprised you had never driven between Harlan and Hazard, or you would have never said everyone had roads like that. You would have to be a certified idiot to compare your roads in Pikeville to 421, and I'm sure you're not.

Read many times that US 23 is one the most of (if not the most) dangerous roads in KY. If safety is your concern (wink) you want to avoid US 23. And yes everyone has traveled bad roads in E Ky. Belfry had bad roads, Pine Mountain, on and on. My point is the same. Travel times and danger of being in a wreck are virtually the same either way for Hazard. If Hazard wants to argue that they want to change the alignments of districts that have been in place for years because they don't like a stretch of highway, let them have at it. Tons of teams dislike stretches of highway.:HitWall:

[PHSForever]

Read many times that US 23 is one the most of (if not the most) dangerous roads in KY. If safety is your concern (wink) you want to avoid US 23. And yes everyone has traveled bad roads in E Ky. Belfry had bad roads, Pine Mountain, on and on. My point is the same. Travel times and danger of being in a wreck are virtually the same either way for Hazard. If Hazard wants to argue that they want to change the alignments of districts that have been in place for years because they don't like a stretch of highway, let them have at it. Tons of teams dislike stretches of highway.:HitWall:

Middlesboro sure did last year.nicker:

Before anyone starts on me, I'm kidding, I'm kidding.

[pjdoug]

Read many times that US 23 is one the most of (if not the most) dangerous roads in KY. If safety is your concern (wink) you want to avoid US 23. And yes everyone has traveled bad roads in E Ky. Belfry had bad roads, Pine Mountain, on and on. My point is the same. Travel times and danger of being in a wreck are virtually the same either way for Hazard. If Hazard wants to argue that they want to change the alignments of districts that have been in place for years because they don't like a stretch of highway, let them have at it. Tons of teams dislike stretches of highway.:HitWall:

seems like all the teams are scared to play each other nicker:

[jetpilot]

That's odd you didn't know that District 7 changed quite a bit. You might want to review the most recent alignment.
District 7 now has Harlan and Pineville, who were in District 6 and Lynn Camp and Williamsburg, who were in District 5.
The only problem you and Pikeville had, it appears, was avoiding Hazard, even if they had to travel a little farther to make it easier on Pikeville.

:HitWall:

I know, did know, and have always known the alignments. Not going to argue with you any more. Hazard will not win their appeal based on saving 12 minutes twice a year. The only way they will win is if they have enough pull with the KHSAA to get special treatment. Don't have any idea how much pull they have but we will find out very soon. And Pikeville dodging anyone is laughable. Pikeville has more wins over Hazard than all of the District 7 teams combined. Which is the real reason District 7 wants Hazard gone - lack of wins against them.
If Hazard ends up in District 8 bring them on.

[jetpilot]

Middlesboro sure did last year.nicker:

Before anyone starts on me, I'm kidding, I'm kidding.

No he isn't.nicker:

[CADEREECE]

I would rather drive to Atlanta or Chicago, than drive the hour and 15 minute trek between Hazard and Harlan,, I am car sick just thinking about it:igiveup:

Truthfully I think the whole deal with the Hazard appeal is this,,,, why we're they moved from the original plan... No one from Hazard was told about it and no one contacted Hazard about moving from original plan till it was already released.

There is NO HIDDEN AGENDA and Hazard is not ducking anyone and Hazard is not concerned with a little gas mileage.

Think they just appealed it, cause they were good with original plan but all of the sudden it was changed without any contact with them.

[jetpilot]

I would rather drive to Atlanta or Chicago, than drive the hour and 15 minute trek between Hazard and Harlan,, I am car sick just thinking about it:igiveup:

Truthfully I think the whole deal with the Hazard appeal is this,,,, why we're they moved from the original plan... No one from Hazard was told about it and no one contacted Hazard about moving from original plan till it was already released.

There is NO HIDDEN AGENDA and Hazard is not ducking anyone and Hazard is not concerned with a little gas mileage.

Think they just appealed it, cause they were good with original plan but all of the sudden it was changed without any contact with them.

If they aren't good with keeping the districts like they have been for years and are going to the trouble to appeal they obviously have an agenda. And if US 421 is making everyone's tummy ache, just take a little longer and use KY 15 and US 119...nicker: And we are talking about one short trip every 2 years...jeez:eyeroll: