[Iron Horse]

Well I would like to see LC compete with Belfry at least and get back to their ways of winning. The community there deserves it.

[pjdoug]

Yes and no.

As a Belfry fan there have been times (specifically those championship games mentioned) where I would have loved to see Belfry's passing game execute better or more often.

The reality is this is High School Football...not college.... where you typically don't have control over the talent pool you have to work with. What makes Belfry so good is they are basically one big machine with interchangeable parts. The offense is simple, it is repeatable, it plays to the talent pool at Belfry's disposal, and it is designed so that if an injury occurs or you suffer a great deal of loss with graduation that the drop off is not immense.

This is actually a pretty common practice across the landscape of HS Football Nationally with smaller schools lacking a ton of athletic talent. I just finished a book yesterday called "Our Boys" which talked about a team in Kansas called Smith Center. This is a 2A School in Kansas who widely is amongst the Top 5 teams in their state regardless of classification and had a 71 game win streak. They have a dwindling population, it is one of the poorest counties in the entire country, and have essentially no African American athletes. Yet somehow this school has produced numerous D-1 players and even a couple NFL players.

They run 99% of the time and use maybe 4 plays total (obviously with different options and reads), yet what makes them so good is those 4 plays are engraved by the time they enter High School. The author asked the Coach (whose philosophies are eerily similar to Haywood on a lot of things) how many passing plays are in your playbook? Too which he responded "Too many". In the Championship season the book followed they threw the ball a grand total of 16 times..

The point of what I am saying is Belfry would be a better team if they could go 8 for 8 passing every game for 145 yards an 2 TD. The problem is they cannot without trading off something else. Haywood's offense and defense work in cohesion. There is a reason Belfry converts 3rd and 2 in State Semi-Finals games at a freakish percentage. There is a reason Belfry always peaks at the right time and Sophomore linemen you never heard of step up in place of an injured player and never miss a beat. There is a reason that from 2003 until the present Belfry has only failed to reach a Semi-Finals once. That reason is Belfry is a machine designed to do a very specific job over and over and over with each time being as precise as before.

Belfry's program has always been strong, but the two greatest runs in the program' s history (80's- Early 90's and 2003-Present) came when the Belfry feeder program was at it's strongest. The first run was when Belfry had great coaches at the feeder level..probably as good if not better than anyone in KY.. mixed with an "up" talent pool. The most recent is a direct correlation to the revitalization of the feeder system by Coach Mickey when the Middle School consolidated, competition was upped, and Belfry's offense/defense was universally coached by a great coaching staff.

In all my years of following HS Football I am convinced that in order to field a highly competitive program it begins and ends with:
- A feeder system working in concert from the grassroots level up with highly skilled and enthusiastic coaches
- A sense of culture and pride cultivated by traditions, coaching stability, and discipline that people want to be a part of
- Community/Adminsitrative support from the Grassroots up
- Coaches who can "recruit" their own school to ensure numbers stay high and the best athletes available are on the football field

Think about Lawrence County's greatest run in school history and how they accomplished it and subsequently how it has fallen off. It will mirror those points. The single greatest issue that has lingered at Lawrence County was the coaching turnover beginning with Chuke's retirement. The conflicting styles that negatively affected the feeder program from the top down. A decrease in support on the whole and a loss of qualified coaches in the Middle School ranks. Ultimately a sufficient drop in roster numbers and elite athletes who focused on baseball or basketball.

that Lawrence County team lost to Highlands same as my 08 Whitley County team that set rushing records. neither had a passing game.

[Iron Horse]

I believe they could get by with a 70/30. 70% run and 30% pass.

[pjdoug]

I believe they could get by with a 70/30. 70% run and 30% pass.

I agree. you don't have to have an air raid offense, but you need at least a threat of a passing game when they are stacking the box because they know you are going to run.

[Iron Horse]

Yes I agree with you.

[KyRock]

I hope what I heard today was true!!!!!!!! If so LC went from an 8-4 Season to having an even greater chance of knocking Belfry off and anyone else in the way. "Pick Your Poison"

[Iron Horse]

???

[Do-double-gg]

I hope what I heard today was true!!!!!!!! If so LC went from an 8-4 Season to having an even greater chance of knocking Belfry off and anyone else in the way. "Pick Your Poison"

Well whatever you heard I would love to hear it also!
I honestly don't see this happening. We got pretty lucky in the 1st game against Belfry last year who had a lot of players out and being rested.
I think they took it to us pretty good last year in the 2nd game.
Belfry had a lot of young kids playing last year and they return a lot and that team is loaded. I think Belfry "as bad as I hate to say it" is the team to beat in 3a this year.

[KyRock]

Well whatever you heard I would love to hear it also!
I honestly don't see this happening. We got pretty lucky in the 1st game against Belfry last year who had a lot of players out and being rested.
I think they took it to us pretty good last year in the 2nd game.
Belfry had a lot of young kids playing last year and they return a lot and that team is loaded. I think Belfry "as bad as I hate to say it" is the team to beat in 3a this year.

Sent You a Message!!!!!!!!!!!

[Do-double-gg]

I hope what I heard today was true!!!!!!!! If so LC went from an 8-4 Season to having an even greater chance of knocking Belfry off and anyone else in the way. "Pick Your Poison"

"Holy ????", things just got interesting in district 8.
Best news Iv'e heard for LCHS football in a long time.:redboxer:

[PaytoPlay]

^ Tell me!

[BillyRay]

LC has 2 or 3 new secret weapons.

[Scotty_Bronson]

Here did they come from? Pike Central seems to be losing players due to their coaching situation. I know they had alot of tallent at the skill positions last year. Has the fallout from losing their HC set some players to louisa?

[Do-double-gg]

Here did they come from? Pike Central seems to be losing players due to their coaching situation. I know they had alot of tallent at the skill positions last year. Has the fallout from losing their HC set some players to louisa?

Who said it had anything to do with players?hh:
No we don't have any kids from Pike Central that I know of.
I don't know why a kid would want to move from Pike County to Lawrence County to play football when they have two good teams in the county they can play for in Belfry or Pikeville. nicker:

[Do-double-gg]

^ Tell me!

We had a Dudley Hilton sighting in Lawrence County.
:biglmao:

[Do-double-gg]

We had a Dudley Hilton sighting in Lawrence County.
:biglmao:

I'm just kidding...........................or am I?
:poker face:

[Real Badman]

I'm just kidding...........................or am I?
:poker face:

You are. He's on vacation down in South Carolina.

[Do-double-gg]

You are. He's on vacation down in South Carolina.

nicker:

[Do-double-gg]

There's nothing going on anyway. Me and KROCK were just trying to get something going. BGR is way to quiet right now. I think people are waiting for football season to start and then things should liven up around here.

:poker face:

[Do-double-gg]

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[Do-double-gg]

Could a MOD or someone change the heading of this thread from 2013 to 2014 if you can. It's been wrong since it was started at the end of last season and it drives me nuts.

[Real Badman]

Fixed. I didn't even notice it myself.

[Do-double-gg]

Fixed. I didn't even notice it myself.

Thanks. :Thumbs:

[KyRock]

All I will say is I can't wait till Monday and I will know for sure if its true!!!!!!!!!!

[KyRock]

I'm just kidding...........................or am I?
:poker face:

:hilarious:

[topnotch]

If you throw the ball because you have to or out of desperation, or have to show you have threat, You are wasting your time in practice, If you throw the ball as part of your offensive attack, when you want to because you know you can, you will grow with it. I can tell you one game last year Williamsburg had the ball first and ten first series of the game on their own 6 yard line Sizemore, first play, hit A strike to Shelton for a 35 yard gain. Nothing to it. Believe me throwing the ball is fun for the kids and the fans loves it. I have said this until the east 5A, 4A, 3A, 2A teams throw the ball because they want to we will find it difficult to compete with the north and the West. Yes, we will have a team that is exceptional but we want be able to compete year in and year out.

[topnotch]

Who said it had anything to do with players?hh:
No we don't have any kids from Pike Central that I know of.
I don't know why a kid would want to move from Pike County to Lawrence County to play football when they have two good teams in the county they can play for in Belfry or Pikeville. nicker:

Why did you leave out Pike County?

[Do-double-gg]

Did anyone go to the Dawg's practice today? I would love to know how they look and what the numbers are like. Do we have any new players?
I would have went but I am working on about 12 straight days of work so all I want to do is sleep when I'm home.

[Do-double-gg]

I got on MaxPreps to look at the Dawg's schedule and it has 2 games listed for September 12th, Brerathitt County and Warren Central. I would think that we play Breathitt because I don't know why we would play a team from way out in Bowling Green.

[KyRock]

I got on MaxPreps to look at the Dawg's schedule and it has 2 games listed for September 12th, Brerathitt County and Warren Central. I would think that we play Breathitt because I don't know why we would play a team from way out in Bowling Green.

I would say its wrong the schedule I have seen has us playing at Breathitt.