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06-24-2014, 02:52 PM
We all know Perry Central shocked the mountains with the hire of Jordan Amis. Even without any experience, I believe he is exactly what the program needed and with some time I think he will prove his doubters wrong.
Since his hire though, many people have been wondering what kind of staff this kid could put together and how they would co-exist considering he will probably be at least 10+ years younger than his top assistants.
From what I've been hearing lately, Perry has possibly hit a home run with their new top assistant. John Paul Chapman, current (possibly former) Head Pike County Central football coach, could very well be in the Commodore red and black next year.
If this is true, it will be a huge get for Amis and his coaching staff. Chapman is known for the style of defense he runs and I believe he would mix great with an offensive minded coach like Jordan.
Since his hire though, many people have been wondering what kind of staff this kid could put together and how they would co-exist considering he will probably be at least 10+ years younger than his top assistants.
From what I've been hearing lately, Perry has possibly hit a home run with their new top assistant. John Paul Chapman, current (possibly former) Head Pike County Central football coach, could very well be in the Commodore red and black next year.
If this is true, it will be a huge get for Amis and his coaching staff. Chapman is known for the style of defense he runs and I believe he would mix great with an offensive minded coach like Jordan.
06-24-2014, 03:02 PM
Voldemort Wrote:We all know Perry Central shocked the mountains with the hire of Jordan Amis. Even without any experience, I believe he is exactly what the program needed and with some time I think he will prove his doubters wrong.
Since his hire though, many people have been wondering what kind of staff this kid could put together and how they would co-exist considering he will probably be at least 10+ years younger than his top assistants.
From what I've been hearing lately, Perry has possibly hit a home run with their new top assistant. John Paul Chapman, current (possibly former) Head Pike County Central football coach, could very well be in the Commodore red and black next year.
If this is true, it will be a huge get for Amis and his coaching staff. Chapman is known for the style of defense he runs and I believe he would mix great with an offensive minded coach like Jordan.
The non-existent kind?
Sheldon Clark was the only team not to score at least 20 points on Pike Central last year. The top three teams the Hawks face last combined to score one point shy of 200 points in 4 games... a number that certainly would have been eclipsed if not for the running clock in two of those games.
If Chapman ducks out this late into the Summer and leaves his team high and dry, is he really the type of guy you want on your staff trying to help groom a young coach?
06-24-2014, 03:07 PM
EKUAlum05 Wrote:The non-existent kind?
Sheldon Clark was the only team not to score at least 20 points on Pike Central last year. The top three teams the Hawks face last combined to score one point shy of 200 points in 4 games... a number that certainly would have been eclipsed if not for the running clock in two of those games.
If Chapman ducks out this late into the Summer and leaves his team high and dry, is he really the type of guy you want on your staff trying to help groom a young coach?
Coaches can only do so much. If you don't have the players then obviously your success isn't going to be as good. If Bill Belichick came to the mountains and coached Knott County and didn't win a game would you still call him a bad coach?
06-24-2014, 03:18 PM
We hear this nonsense every year. Can anyone confirm Chapman leaving PCC or not?
06-24-2014, 03:31 PM
Real Badman Wrote:We hear this nonsense every year. Can anyone confirm Chapman leaving PCC or not?
I'm not sure about every year but he would have been at Breathitt if the state management hadn't gotten in the way when they took over. He would have took over as defensive coordinator and brought a couple players from PCC with him.
Not sure if this rumor has any legs to it I know that the Chapman leaving PCC rumors were true at least one year.
06-24-2014, 03:33 PM
Voldemort Wrote:Coaches can only do so much. If you don't have the players then obviously your success isn't going to be as good. If Bill Belichick came to the mountains and coached Knott County and didn't win a game would you still call him a bad coach?
We are not talking about Knott Central... Chapman has had plenty of talent to work with at a 3A school in a County where football is King. Heck he even brought some of it with himself and got in trouble for it. He has been there long enough that he has had more than enough time to develop kids from Feeder System throughout High School and he still has yet to field a quality defense.
I will give him credit though that the man does know how to develop QB's and make the most out of WR's. Noone can deny that. Defense though? Not so much.
06-24-2014, 03:48 PM
EKUAlum05 Wrote:We are not talking about Knott Central... Chapman has had plenty of talent to work with at a 3A school in a County where football is King. Heck he even brought some of it with himself and got in trouble for it. He has been there long enough that he has had more than enough time to develop kids from Feeder System throughout High School and he still has yet to field a quality defense.
I will give him credit though that the man does know how to develop QB's and make the most out of WR's. Noone can deny that. Defense though? Not so much.
I'm not here to argue about Chapman or his resume. I personally don't know the guy. All I was here to say is that Perry Central found the experience they were looking to add for their coaching staff. He has a solid football mind and I don't believe they could have got anyone better for the job.
06-24-2014, 04:51 PM
EKUAlum05 Wrote:The non-existent kind?
Sheldon Clark was the only team not to score at least 20 points on Pike Central last year. The top three teams the Hawks face last combined to score one point shy of 200 points in 4 games... a number that certainly would have been eclipsed if not for the running clock in two of those games.
If Chapman ducks out this late into the Summer and leaves his team high and dry, is he really the type of guy you want on your staff trying to help groom a young coach?
Before Chapman took over the PCC program, they were the laughing stock of Pike County football. Now, he has built a respectable program, who is winning playoff games and competing for regional titles. I agree, if he Ducks out this late into the summer, his character should be questioned, but for anyone who thinks this guy can't coach defense, he has three state championship rings to prove otherwise.
06-24-2014, 05:12 PM
Cat Daddy Wrote:Before Chapman took over the PCC program, they were the laughing stock of Pike County football. Now, he has built a respectable program, who is winning playoff games and competing for regional titles. I agree, if he Ducks out this late into the summer, his character should be questioned, but for anyone who thinks this guy can't coach defense, he has three state championship rings to prove otherwise.
McNamee had made Pike Central into a better program than you are giving him credit for.
Chapman has improved PCs fortunes, but a lot of that playoff credit could also be given to a very weak District opposite of them (Breathitt routinely is the only strong team and they have fallen on hard times) as well as the decline of Sheldon Clark.
06-24-2014, 07:12 PM
Just out of curiosity, what would be said if John Doe science teacher at so and so high school left for another school this late in the year? What about Johnny administrator?
I doubt we would be questioning their character.
I doubt we would be questioning their character.
06-24-2014, 08:17 PM
Well I will just tell you Chapman won three state titles coaching defense. I would say he can coach defense as good or better than anyone in this state. He has just made the switch to offense. Look at the defense last year. Mac Justice did not play defense, Andrew fields did not play defense, the running back #7 did not play defense. That is three of the best athletes on the team. They did not play defense. Chapman understand that football in the mountains has changed. It's about offense now. Kids are soft. Especially Central kids. They are very soft. Only certain teams in the mountains still maintain that knock your head off defense. It has went to the spread and air it out offenses. Only certain teams in the hills of eastern kentucky play defense anymore. Sorry to bust some peoples bubbles but that's the facts. Kids are soft these days.
06-24-2014, 08:20 PM
Real Badman Wrote:We hear this nonsense every year. Can anyone confirm Chapman leaving PCC or not?
I can not confirm this. I think if haddix had stay at PCC Chapman would have been at PCC. I think Chapman has done a good job Pike County Central. :Cheerlead
06-24-2014, 09:49 PM
All I know is that he's told the kids time & time again that he is staying put.
So, I believe him.
So, I believe him.
06-30-2014, 10:06 AM
Its official. Chapman is now a Commodore.
06-30-2014, 10:26 AM
Voldemort Wrote:Its official. Chapman is now a Commodore.
Wow!
Criticism and moral issues aside, that is a massive change to happen this late in the Summer and if nothing else PCC adds a very seasoned coach with a ton of big game experience. Something they desperately needed hiring such a young Head Coach.
Pike Central fans have to be feeling like they were left High and Dry.
Now the question becomes if Chapman does what he did when he took the Pike Central job and brings any players with him. Remember the KHSAA passed a rule against this as a direct result of the Pike Central case as well as basketball transfers across the State.
06-30-2014, 12:08 PM
Voldemort Wrote:Its official. Chapman is now a Commodore.
If this is true, Chapman should have been more up front and honest about his intentions with his team and the PCC program. IMO, eventually he will be back at Breathitt once the state is no longer in control of the school system. I wish Pike County Central the best of luck in finding a new coach.
06-30-2014, 03:41 PM
I he did leave after telling the kids who counted on him, then the new coach at perry better look out, if he will do that to kids who trusted him then no telling what he will do to people he don't know very well.
06-30-2014, 03:53 PM
Performance on the field is the key not who stands on the sideline and calls the plays, The Kids have to play hard every snap i like the New Coaches but the kids have to play every down and perform Nick Saban could be there but if they dont buy in and know their rolls as a player it wont work we all know that names dont mean nothing its the players that make highschool sports what it is. If Amis start winning right away the program will take off. I predict this at 46 games he have a better record than Haddix or Browne did at 46 games.
06-30-2014, 04:22 PM
Sadly, if Chapman is bolting our program then it's going to create a big snowball effect and I feel that perhaps several of our kids will transfer out.
Going from a potential Top 10 season, maybe down to a under .500 season.
Going from a potential Top 10 season, maybe down to a under .500 season.
06-30-2014, 08:14 PM
Mr. Pike Central Wrote:Sadly, if Chapman is bolting our program then it's going to create a big snowball effect and I feel that perhaps several of our kids will transfer out.
Going from a potential Top 10 season, maybe down to a under .500 season.
is it confirmed that he left?
06-30-2014, 08:56 PM
I'm hearing yes.
06-30-2014, 09:44 PM
WYMT just confirmed John Chapman has resigned.
06-30-2014, 09:45 PM
WYMT is reporting it is official that he has resigned as Pike Central's coach.
06-30-2014, 09:46 PM
Wow.
06-30-2014, 09:56 PM
Well, well, well....
06-30-2014, 09:59 PM
EKUAlum05 Wrote:The non-existent kind?
Sheldon Clark was the only team not to score at least 20 points on Pike Central last year. The top three teams the Hawks face last combined to score one point shy of 200 points in 4 games... a number that certainly would have been eclipsed if not for the running clock in two of those games.
If Chapman ducks out this late into the Summer and leaves his team high and dry, is he really the type of guy you want on your staff trying to help groom a young coach?
If a guy leaves a head coaching job to take an assistant job at another school it means that he wants to be there - and that's exactly what Perry Central needs.
I have my questions about the hire...
but if this guy wants to get back to cracking skulls like he did at Breathitt County and can be a veteran experience that has Jordan's back then this is a home run.
06-30-2014, 10:16 PM
Cat Daddy Wrote:If this is true, Chapman should have been more up front and honest about his intentions with his team and the PCC program. IMO, eventually he will be back at Breathitt once the state is no longer in control of the school system. I wish Pike County Central the best of luck in finding a new coach.
he left late in the game for sure.
07-01-2014, 07:13 AM
zaga_fan Wrote:If a guy leaves a head coaching job to take an assistant job at another school it means that he wants to be there - and that's exactly what Perry Central needs.
I have my questions about the hire...
but if this guy wants to get back to cracking skulls like he did at Breathitt County and can be a veteran experience that has Jordan's back then this is a home run.
I can't disagree with what you are saying if this is the case, but he could also be the "bad apple" that spoils the bushel.
07-01-2014, 02:20 PM
This may have been brought up before but I have to ask, why would PCC not hire Chapman as HC and bring Amis in as OC and groom him to become HC? If all this was going to shake out why wouldn't the administration orchestrated it differently? What happens when Amis has to take the heat for a breakdown? Will folks be saying the job should be Chapmans? This posses many interesting scenarios in my opinion.
07-01-2014, 05:20 PM
Lone Ranger Wrote:This may have been brought up before but I have to ask, why would PCC not hire Chapman as HC and bring Amis in as OC and groom him to become HC? If all this was going to shake out why wouldn't the administration orchestrated it differently? What happens when Amis has to take the heat for a breakdown? Will folks be saying the job should be Chapmans? This posses many interesting scenarios in my opinion.
I was wondering the same thing.
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