[WildDawg]

Howdy to all the Bulldog fans on here. How do you guys see the team stacking up next year? I know they lost Cyrus but they have some young talent. How would Dalton look running the Qb? I think coach Short can get this offense to the next level. How do you guys feel?

[Scotty_Bronson]

I think you will see Dalton running things next hear. LC had an extremely disapointinf 2nd half of the season. They were young and inexperienced last hear, they still suprised people and had a pretty good season. I look for them to be 6-4/7-3 and play Belfrey within 20 pts...

[KyRock]

Howdy to all the Bulldog fans on here. How do you guys see the team stacking up next year? I know they lost Cyrus but they have some young talent. How would Dalton look running the Qb? I think coach Short can get this offense to the next level. How do you guys feel?

I don't think we should or will be seeing Dalton at Qb. We have a Qb in the making with The Kiser Kid and think He will do a Great Job. I could be wrong believe it or not it has been known to happen. But for a Kid as Athletic as Dalton and I am not saying this to be negative towards Him. But to play Qb you are going to get hit and hit alot and be able to take a hit. I think He could make it in Football I think His ticket is BBall though and will not take a chance playing Qb. It wouldn't surprise Me if He doesn't even come out for LC Football in 2014.

[PaytoPlay]

Someone give a breakdown of what graduated and what returns. I just don't see how LC improves after losing Cyrus, Goble, and that RB.

[KyRock]

I think the Mosley Kid comes back and IMO He was the best RB LC had all year. And the most consistent that they didn't use alot. I think we will be Ok at RB we always seem to produce Great Backs. Its the Line I am worried about but that another position we always seem to produce. And I think we return a couple lineman from 2013. I look for same results as bad as I want to admit. Truth is I miss those Days!!!!!!!

[dawg fan]

No chance for dalton to play qb that is kisers job. Dalton quit on the dogs last year with a couple games left in the season last year the kid has talent but do you really need a kid on your team that will quit on you late in the season. Coach short needs to come into the 21st century quit playing 1970s offense. Kids are to talented these days to many good coaches out there to be has one demetional as lc is. Good coaches evaluate their talent and develop a offensive schem that best suits the talent. Short is run it up the gut. Down 20 in the second half or 3 down and 15 its run it up the middle. Ten men in the box same formation same play run it up the gut. When we trade game film lc offense has only 1 play on it up the gut if u can stop it you win if you can't lc wins

[WildDawg]

No chance for dalton to play qb that is kisers job. Dalton quit on the dogs last year with a couple games left in the season last year the kid has talent but do you really need a kid on your team that will quit on you late in the season. Coach short needs to come into the 21st century quit playing 1970s offense. Kids are to talented these days to many good coaches out there to be has one demetional as lc is. Good coaches evaluate their talent and develop a offensive schem that best suits the talent. Short is run it up the gut. Down 20 in the second half or 3 down and 15 its run it up the middle. Ten men in the box same formation same play run it up the gut. When we trade game film lc offense has only 1 play on it up the gut if u can stop it you win if you can't lc wins

Sounds like you're explaining the same offense Phil Haywood runs at Belfry. The same offense Chuke Williams run in the late 90's with a lot of success. I don't see anything wrong with the offense. Lawrence County has to get kids to come out and stay dedicated to football. That's all they need. They have the athletes walking the halls.

[dawg fan]

If u have the line u can do it most of the time. But u have to make them respect the pass 5 offensive line men are not going to block 8 & 9 defensive players on a regular basis. The athletes walking the halls of lc won't come out for football because short won't give them the opportunity to be successful. Kiser has a good arm throws a easy ball to catch, lc has some excellent receivers on their rooster but most of them have not seen a pass since middle school. They have several lineman returning next year, johnson, ratliff, blankenship, indicot, and few more. But if they want to move up to the next level and actually compeat with the belfrys of the world their 1990s offensive schem is going to have to move into 2014.

[64SUR]

MERRY CHRISTMAS LAWRENCE COUNTY FROM 64SUR :truestory:

[Do-double-gg]

I have been hearing rumors that coach Ceicel may take the job at Russell. Do any of you have any info on this?

[Scotty_Bronson]

Heard alot of the same thing along our section of us 23. I regaurds to the system LC runs offensively, Belfrey played against a wide open offense in Wayne Co, and still won a state title. The same things r being said at Russell. But the Vear, Bone, Double Wing, Wing T can and will always be successful at the HS level. Reading misdirection is one of the hardest things to coach. It's about personel and play calling within a given system, and adapting to the players you have.

[#1 Blackcat Fan]

Heard alot of the same thing along our section of us 23. I regaurds to the system LC runs offensively, Belfrey played against a wide open offense in Wayne Co, and still won a state title. The same things r being said at Russell. But the Vear, Bone, Double Wing, Wing T can and will always be successful at the HS level. Reading misdirection is one of the hardest things to coach. It's about personel and play calling within a given system, and adapting to the players you have.

:Thumbs:

[Scotty_Bronson]

Thanks Blackcat. People continue to make that argument. Their are wrinkles in Running style offenses. We ran the wishbone for the most part coming up through grade school and middle school. My 8t grade year we started running the Franklin System. But, from the bone or eve the wing t, you can still run out of pro sets or pro sets with a slot. Look at Raceland's offense. 90% ran out of a Ace package set. Yet, they are a run first offense. Still using 2 backs and using traps, leads, read option. I do, however, feel that too many teams get one demensional. Non district games should be used to see what u need to work on. Raceland was successful running the ball in every game this year, except for the Williamsburg game. Had they worked more on bootleg roll outs and the intermediate passing game theoufh the year, would they have won? I dont really think so, but they would have been in better position to do so. LC and Raceland went in total different directions after their game. For LC, it had nothing to do with their offense.

[dawgbyte02]

Kiser will be QB. He would have been QB this past year had AJ not been a senior. Cecil believes seniors should always play regardless. Dalton is a quitter. He quit because he didn't get the ball enough and his first love BB had started. Got talent but like most kids does not strive to be the best. You have O'Brien coming back and the Endicot kid that transfered back from Sheldon might be a good lineman if his work ethic is good. You have Shaffer who is a big tight end/slot/wr and has decent speed. He and Kiser connected many times in middle school for huge gains. You have Johnson and Ratliff who are huge lineman. Mosely in my opinion was a better back than Goble, a lot faster and hard to bring down. This team should do very well. They need to make use of screens, short passes to running backs and tightends to spread the defense a little. If they do that they will be a tough out

[Scotty_Bronson]

Anyone in Dawg Country hearing anything about Cecil's interest i the Russell job? His name is getting tossed around alot along our section of 23. Just wondering.

[Do-double-gg]

I found this way back on page 5 or 6. I wish someone close to the team could give an update on how the numbers are looking and how weight lifting went and if we have any new additions and stuff like that.

[Do-double-gg]

????????:why:

[Belfry0304]

I was reading through these old posts, I always find it funny when guys get on here and say their team needs to run a 21st century offense and leave that 1970s stuff behind. I TOTALLY AGREE! There's no way a flexbone/wishbone system can win here in the 2000s!!!

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[Belfry0304]

My point was not to brag about our success, but the point is ALL defenses and offenses can be successful. Your kids have to buy in, and your coaches have to coach the hell out of it. It's not about schemes.

[Fly Like a Duck]

My point was not to brag about our success, but the point is ALL defenses and offenses can be successful. Your kids have to buy in, and your coaches have to coach the hell out of it. It's not about schemes.

So true.

What I love reading is the double standard clearly obvious for styles of play.

Go .500, go O'fer, fall short in the title game....running the flexbone, wishbone, wing t, sbv, etc. And the offense is at fault.

Have the same results in the spread and all is forgiven.

Go under center and run buck sweep out of the old delaware wing t look, and its an outdated offense. Go 5 wide and run it, and people think its the greatest thing since sliced bread.

Run an old school counter trap with a G and T pulling, and its blasphemy. .....run it from the spread and pull one linemen w/ an H Back (old single wing blocking back is all it is, but neither of those sound as cool, right?), and you get instant credibility as a good coach.

Its amazing the number of people who think they know the slightest about the game, when in all reality that dont really know chite.

[Fly Like a Duck]

No chance for dalton to play qb that is kisers job. Dalton quit on the dogs last year with a couple games left in the season last year the kid has talent but do you really need a kid on your team that will quit on you late in the season. Coach short needs to come into the 21st century quit playing 1970s offense. Kids are to talented these days to many good coaches out there to be has one demetional as lc is. Good coaches evaluate their talent and develop a offensive schem that best suits the talent. Short is run it up the gut. Down 20 in the second half or 3 down and 15 its run it up the middle. Ten men in the box same formation same play run it up the gut. When we trade game film lc offense has only 1 play on it up the gut if u can stop it you win if you can't lc wins

Kids are softer. And don't fool yourself about them being more talented. Watch some of the old Pikeville, Belfry, etc games from the 80's. Most mountain or any teams now wouldn't want any part of them.

I've played and coached over both generations, and the talent level is about the same. The toughness level however isn't even close.

[Do-double-gg]

Kids are softer. And don't fool yourself about them being more talented. Watch some of the old Pikeville, Belfry, etc games from the 80's. Most mountain or any teams now wouldn't want any part of them.

I've played and coached over both generations, and the talent level is about the same. The toughness level however isn't even close.

I agree with you about kids not being any more talented or faster or more athletic but I,m going to disagree with you about the kids being softer. I do however think parents are softer and don't give the kids the discipline and tough love they need. I don't know about the rest of you but I'm 35, born in 1978. I was mean as hell and got punished quite a bit with either a belt or switch depending on my moms mood and the1 time and only I slipped and said the GD word and my mom back handed me in the mouth and almost knocked me over the couch. A lot of the parents of this day and time would read this and say I was abused but I think the parents who say stuff like that could use a good back hand. My parents forgot about more wippings then I ever got and I deserved all of theme and no telling how I would have ended up without em. I still see kids going strait into the service out of school and dying for the country and I still see kids laying massive hits out on the field. I think the biggest difference between the kids of this day and the kids of the 80's and on back is that they are smarter and more educated about there health and body's. Back in the days you speak of it was quite a the norm for kids to be afraid to speak up and say no to a coach or any person of authority in fear of retribution from parents, coaches, and peers. At that time a kid would just about jump off a bridge if the coach said so. It was pretty common at that time for coaches to believe that running kids till they puke in the heat with little water was a good thing and if a kid took a big hit in the head and was confused they would say to just shake it off and get back in. No telling how many middle age and old men to this day are suffering the consequences and have all there lives because of stuff like that. I think the good teams of today could give the good teams of the 70's and 80's all the want and then some.

[Iron Horse]

How many kids normally play each year at LC? They are a decent size school.

[Do-double-gg]

I was reading through these old posts, I always find it funny when guys get on here and say their team needs to run a 21st century offense and leave that 1970s stuff behind. I TOTALLY AGREE! There's no way a flexbone/wishbone system can win here in the 2000s!!!

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Those are some nice rings 0304. I love the the one with the skull and bones.

[Do-double-gg]

How many kids normally play each year at LC? They are a decent size school.

It depends on if it,s good years or bad years just about like any school. I think the dawgs average about 50 to 55 kids. I think it was a little down from this last year. I have also seen years where we had a lot more then 50.

[Iron Horse]

With those numbers they should compete with belfry every year

[Fly Like a Duck]

With those numbers they should compete with belfry every year

......If it were just that simple.

[Scotty_Bronson]

The numbers argument is interesting. Mayfield rarely loses more than a game or 2 every year, all the while playing HIGH QUALITY 2-6a schools. Numbers give you an advantage, but that doesnt mean it SHOULD translate into wins.

[Fly Like a Duck]

If u have the line u can do it most of the time. But u have to make them respect the pass 5 offensive line men are not going to block 8 & 9 defensive players on a regular basis. The athletes walking the halls of lc won't come out for football because short won't give them the opportunity to be successful. Kiser has a good arm throws a easy ball to catch, lc has some excellent receivers on their rooster but most of them have not seen a pass since middle school. They have several lineman returning next year, johnson, ratliff, blankenship, indicot, and few more. But if they want to move up to the next level and actually compeat with the belfrys of the world their 1990s offensive schem is going to have to move into 2014.

....well, considering you have a ball carrier and the QB (who is frequently the ball carrier in their offense), you have 10 guys to block a lot of times.

I can tell by your post that you are a young man, please quit listening to guys who don't know jack and trust that Coach Cecil and Coach Short know what they are doing, bc they do KNOW what they are doing.

Short was an All Conference QB in college. If you don't think he doesn't know what it takes to play pitch and catch, you're sadly mistaken.

[Fly Like a Duck]

The numbers argument is interesting. Mayfield rarely loses more than a game or 2 every year, all the while playing HIGH QUALITY 2-6a schools. Numbers give you an advantage, but that doesnt mean it SHOULD translate into wins.

So true...it's the substance w/in those numbers.

Mayfield has more speed on ONE team than most schools have over 10 years.

There are the 'sound good' answers, and reality. Mommy, Daddy, Little Johnny or the fans who have never been outside their county/community/regions to watch other programs don't understand that...or they do, and just fail to accept it.