[Johnny_Ringo]

Just wondering how much money kids get to go to UPIKE, Cumberland, Union, Lindsey Wilson, and colleges like that? Anyone get Full Rides or all just a little here and there?

[TopCat]

They all have a set amount they can give kids for Scholarship money. They have to divide that money as they see fit. Some guys get a bunch of money others very little, it really depends on talent and finacial aide packages. They also try to give the student-athletes work study.

[Tica]

The NAIA limits athletic scholarships to the equivalent of 24 full time students.

Most NAIA schools give a 1/4 to 1/2 and then some players get much less like 1/8, but that can be supplanted with a Pell grant and state grants and financial aid and the dreaded student loan to fill out the package. There is also work study, private scholarships, etc. I think NCAA D2 schools like Wesleyan and K-State and soon, Gtown, can award up to 36 FTE scollys.

[cherokee]

most schools will offer about 1/2 scholarship on academics if you have a 25 act and above a 3.5 gpa, some require a 28 act or above with a 3.75 gpa. My point is be a pretty good player in high school and a great student and you will get an opportunity to play college football. If you are a real good player and not a very good student prepare to pay back student loans if you play (unless your parents are loaded). Most small schools stack academic (if you have the act and grades) and athletic scholarships along with Pell grants, work studies, etc, to make full rides. Very few full rides given at the lower level without the grades. Remember private schools are much more expensive than public schools.

[toussaints]

if those schools had the choice, they wouldn't offer much, if anything. When it comes to recruiting, those schools have 2 objectives

1. get as many players as we can get
2. let their academics knock out most, or even better all of their tuition, books, room, and board

the more they get to come to the school, the more the school can make. Several NCAA D3 schools give their coaches a quota to meet on getting recruits there. At Thomas More, I think it's 35 incoming

[jw4914]

Just wondering how much money kids get to go to UPIKE, Cumberland, Union, Lindsey Wilson, and colleges like that? Anyone get Full Rides or all just a little here and there?

I can tell you what a couple of these offered my son. We never got to $$$
with Lindsey because of other offers. Union's first offer was $20G/yr academic;
my son never contacted them so it stopped there. Cumberland was
$30G/yr academic. UPike was full ride with $1,200 stipe tacked on... Hanover
(D3) covered everything except $6,000 a year.... My son had 3.86 gpa and 25
ACT. This may come as a lump figure so read the fine line. I know a kid that
got a $40G offer and signed thinking it was a yearly figure turned out it was
a 4 yr lump figure so he was only getting $10G a yr.

Grades and ACT are the key to the money.. The Coaches will work to get you
as much academic $'s as physically possible (depending on how bad they want
you) and they will compete against other schools their classification and/or
conference. You have to be careful playing one school against another, but
they do want to know who they are competing against. And, they will ask who
the others are. Hanover against Centre, UPike against Union.

It can be very exciting, but also overwhelming. The hard lesson to learn is
that what the parent wants might not be what the athlete wants. This child
is a young adult with their own dreams and ultimately it needs to be their
decision. It was a hard lesson for myself; my son turned down all offers -
29 total w/6 full rides. I went ballistic, then found out that he had signed
with National Guard. He said "Dad that's my calling!" Got to Love the kid (all of
them) and respect their decision as a young adult. I couldn't be prouder to
have Guardsmen in the family!!

Sorry for the rant,,,, feel free to PM me if you got questions...

[papagrit]

I can tell you what a couple of these offered my son. We never got to $$$
with Lindsey because of other offers. Union's first offer was $20G/yr academic;
my son never contacted them so it stopped there. Cumberland was
$30G/yr academic. UPike was full ride with $1,200 stipe tacked on... Hanover
(D3) covered everything except $6,000 a year.... My son had 3.86 gpa and 25
ACT. This may come as a lump figure so read the fine line. I know a kid that
got a $40G offer and signed thinking it was a yearly figure turned out it was
a 4 yr lump figure so he was only getting $10G a yr.

Grades and ACT are the key to the money.. The Coaches will work to get you
as much academic $'s as physically possible (depending on how bad they want
you) and they will compete against other schools their classification and/or
conference. You have to be careful playing one school against another, but
they do want to know who they are competing against. And, they will ask who
the others are. Hanover against Centre, UPike against Union.

It can be very exciting, but also overwhelming. The hard lesson to learn is
that what the parent wants might not be what the athlete wants. This child
is a young adult with their own dreams and ultimately it needs to be their
decision. It was a hard lesson for myself; my son turned down all offers -
29 total w/6 full rides. I went ballistic, then found out that he had signed
with National Guard. He said "Dad that's my calling!" Got to Love the kid (all of
them) and respect their decision as a young adult. I couldn't be prouder to
have Guardsmen in the family!!

Sorry for the rant,,,, feel free to PM me if you got questions...

Congrats on the kid in the Guard JW! If he does it a few years, maybe he can get some GI money and go back into school?

I can't agree more about your take on grades and scores. Grades and scores are a HUGE deal in getting a GOOD deal when your kid goes to college and wants to play football. It is like having that hole card in a poker game that gets you over the top on a hand. I knew a kid that was a heck of a player at Rockcastle that had decent grades and scores, but, couldn't get near the scholarship money he needed to go to school at the NAIA level with what his single mother made. The NAIA coaches weren't able to help him much more because his academics weren't much more than average or a little better. It was a real shame because he was SO good at football and is actually a really good kid in person. He would have been a standout at that level in my opinion. He really needed extra help and if he had the grades on his side, I'm sure he would have gotten some academic money that would have been enough for him to get into school and pay his own way.

[Tica]

I guess the real bottom line is that a parent or loved one would do as well or better by sending little junior to an ACT prep course and investing in an academic tutor as they would by sending him to some high-priced summer football camp.

Also, the amount of aid your child receives actually depends in part of the cost of the school. There is a significant difference in the cost of private colleges in Ky.

An NAIA offer likely will come later in the spring after coordinators determine who is not picked up by NCAA programs. The NAIA situation tends to be fluid with some players changing their minds so slots tend to open up unexpectedly because an NAIA letter of intent is not legally binding. The player attrition rate at these schools is significant - very likely 40% leave after the first year or two. That's why they sign huge 50 and 60 player freshman classes, because they know many will leave.

[OrangenowBlue]

NAIA scholarships are not near as good as the ones at the University of Cordia

[RunItUpTheGut]

If youre going NAIA you better hope you get an academic scholarship because the athletic scholarships are few and far between.
I remember at Cumberland when it came to teams like the jv team, they would pay for there books and that was it. Don't know if its still that way, but when it comes to NAIA sports, getting other scholarships are the key.

[papagrit]

I guess the real bottom line is that a parent or loved one would do as well or better by sending little junior to an ACT prep course and investing in an academic tutor as they would by sending him to some high-priced summer football camp.

Also, the amount of aid your child receives actually depends in part of the cost of the school. There is a significant difference in the cost of private colleges in Ky.

An NAIA offer likely will come later in the spring after coordinators determine who is not picked up by NCAA programs. The NAIA situation tends to be fluid with some players changing their minds so slots tend to open up unexpectedly because an NAIA letter of intent is not legally binding. The player attrition rate at these schools is significant - very likely 40% leave after the first year or two. That's why they sign huge 50 and 60 player freshman classes, because they know many will leave.

As far as I'm concerned.....it couldn't hurt. Unless the kid has cut and dried D1 talent, test preparation classes couldn't hurt at all for any level. My two were in the Kentucky Governors Scholars Program and the youngest squeaked into the college that he will attend with a 30 ACT score. I tried to talk him into one of those classes to improve on that. His weak point was english in which he only got a 26 and he could have probably improved it in a ACT preparation class. His other scores pulled that up to a 30. His brother got a 33 ACT and both have/had perfect unweighted 4.0's in high school with the older taking 6 AP courses and the younger taking 8 AP courses. Neither got to attend but two football camps during their junior/senior year summer because of the five week Governors Scholar Program eating up the juicy part of camp season.