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02-23-2014, 09:54 PM
Mix1...
to be safe I'm just going to post the vid.
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to be safe I'm just going to post the vid.
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02-23-2014, 09:59 PM
zaga_fan Wrote:Mix1...
to be safe I'm just going to post the vid.
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Elbows are a part of basketball. Punches are not. There is no excuse for this behavior.
02-23-2014, 10:00 PM
Oh god what a vicious elbow. Just trying to clear some space.
After the season hopefully JJ will set up an MMA Match with ole
Ritchie up at the armory where JJ can hit back. That was nothing but
assault. JJ's parents should press charges.
After the season hopefully JJ will set up an MMA Match with ole
Ritchie up at the armory where JJ can hit back. That was nothing but
assault. JJ's parents should press charges.
02-23-2014, 10:01 PM
Call me crazy... but I don't think Justin really connects with that elbow.
Not to the head anyway.
Not to the head anyway.
02-23-2014, 10:04 PM
The_Rock Wrote:Oh god what a vicious elbow. Just trying to clear some space.
After the season hopefully JJ will set up an MMA Match with ole
Ritchie up at the armory where JJ can hit back. That was nothing but
assault. JJ's parents should press charges.
This is bad and he should be gone for the season but I am not big on the criminal charge thing as I am old school. Back before the vagination of society in the last fifteen years, when it is over its over. What happened on the court didn't carry over to the courtroom.
02-23-2014, 10:09 PM
Who knows if Johnson called him a derogatory name or not. You can't tell. If he did or not, it does not matter. You have to control your actions. Johnson baited him in & he took it.
02-23-2014, 10:18 PM
Mix1 Wrote:There is the video of it. If that site is off limit here,, please remove.
Chapman should be suspended for throwing a punch period...... How many games whatever the. :rules:..are......Something had to been said or he snap.referee need to be interview.And I'm not taking side BGR fans.. I'm a Cordia fan and a perry central fan and a 14th region fan...And a big fan of johnson....just saying.
02-23-2014, 10:27 PM
This started as soon as chapman entered the game. Go back and watch as johnson is running down the court and he gets a little past half court when chapman stops and shoulder blocks johnson. No call by the refs. Then he done it again a few possessions later. Another no call by this officiating crew.
And johnson caught the ball on the wing and just brought his arms up with the ball. That's not illegal especially if you don't make contact. And another thing is they called two technical fouls on Perry's bench and none on cordials bench. Perry had two players leave the bench and the video shows at least 5 cordia players leave their bench and then after they had come on the court one of the assistant coaches who was also on the court pushed them back. That should have been 6 technical fouls by the way the refs called and Rhodes should have been ejected because he is suppose to control the bench. And the refs never kicked chapman out of the game which is illegal. He did leave the gym but he came right back.
And someone said that because Perry's team left the bench they should have had to forfeit the game but nobody says anything about cordia leaving the bench first.
And johnson caught the ball on the wing and just brought his arms up with the ball. That's not illegal especially if you don't make contact. And another thing is they called two technical fouls on Perry's bench and none on cordials bench. Perry had two players leave the bench and the video shows at least 5 cordia players leave their bench and then after they had come on the court one of the assistant coaches who was also on the court pushed them back. That should have been 6 technical fouls by the way the refs called and Rhodes should have been ejected because he is suppose to control the bench. And the refs never kicked chapman out of the game which is illegal. He did leave the gym but he came right back.
And someone said that because Perry's team left the bench they should have had to forfeit the game but nobody says anything about cordia leaving the bench first.
02-23-2014, 10:32 PM
And if Johnson's family wanted to really do something to chapman then they could get him for terroristic threatening because you can read his lips on the wymt video where he says he will kill johnson
02-23-2014, 10:32 PM
After watching the video, it would appear that Johnson said something to make Chapman throw the punch. If it was in reponse to the supposed elbow by Johnson the punch would have been immediately after the contact. While violence should never be tolerated in any form, neither should comments that provoke it, especially if it was racial. Both should have to sit out a few games.
02-23-2014, 10:38 PM
PapaPoof Wrote:After watching the video, it would appear that Johnson said something to make Chapman throw the punch. If it was in reponse to the supposed elbow by Johnson the punch would have been immediately after the contact. While violence should never be tolerated in any form, neither should comments that provoke it, especially if it was racial. Both should have to sit out a few games.
I agree if Johnson said something racial.,,. :Sad04:
02-23-2014, 10:43 PM
It looks likes Chapman took two steps back as Johnson walked past him, matching Johnson's steps and then clocked him. He knew he was going to punch him right after the ref blew the whistle.
02-23-2014, 10:49 PM
I just hate that everything has to be about racism. I dont care if the kid was black or white or whatever there is no place for this in sports. Anytime someone says something negative about Cordia they are called racist. Cordia folks think they are the only school in history to have black athletes and everyone hates them for it. Being from Knott I hope they are at full strength in the post season so we can beat u again and you can cry some more.
02-23-2014, 10:54 PM
I highly doubt Johnson said something racial, he and Damen Tobler have become best friends. They're like each other's shadows. The tape was reviewed by the head official. He said that Johnson's move is legal and no contact was made, he was clearing space. He also said on one play Johnson came down with a rebound and hit Chapman, that was said to be a part of basketball.
02-23-2014, 11:08 PM
Why is it assumed that JJ said something racist to this kid?
I've watched the video several times and it is IMPOSSIBLE to judge whether or not he even said anything.
Let me blow your minds... I can walk by someone, turn my head a little bit and NOT say a word.
I've watched the video several times and it is IMPOSSIBLE to judge whether or not he even said anything.
Let me blow your minds... I can walk by someone, turn my head a little bit and NOT say a word.
02-23-2014, 11:08 PM
I don't care what he may or may not called him! It's just words. Justin almost got knocked out. I'm sure Rich could of told him to meet afterwards and they could of slugged it out somewhere. I swear, I enjoy watching cordia play and I am glad they have a great team but I be damned if I want them hitting my boy. he didn't deserve to be hit. Every time I turn around, someone's wanting to get a warrant on me and I ain't never hit nobody. If I done that, I'd never got out of jail would I Buford. Love tap. What would you done if that would been your kid Buford? I know what you'd done. I hope nothing but the best for Rodand his team but this should of never happened. Was stupid to say the least. I thought it was a good clean game.
02-23-2014, 11:17 PM
I've stayed away long enough, lol. Huggy bear you have stole my show and I'm not upset. Let everybody talk smack to you instead of me. I agre he match JJ step for step then hit him. Johnson elbow was clearly not intentional. He brought his elbows up high which you are allow to do. You can swing the ball up over your head like that or down low. Johnson's elbows would have been out and not up if he was trying to hit him in the face. You ppl can make what you want out of this but the truth is on video. Cordia get 2 free throws and the ball back after this deal. Blows my mind. KHSAA is reviewing the video as we speak. PCC will probably lose 4/5 players because they left the bench. Cordia will lose several as well if their video is reviewed. I was sitting directly behind their bench and at least 5/6 made it to the floor w/ Rhodes holding them back.
To all the ppl on here saying PCC, KCC and HHS should be punished to are nuts!! All their kids have went through the process and been cleared to play or sit and thats what each of those teams have done. They all 3 have done exactly what the league has told them to do because they play for the Ky High School Athletic Association. This league has rules and if you don't play by them then you will be punished.
I understand why someone would say Cordia doesn't deserve the death penalty. I don't like it anymore than anyone else but when adults and administrators allow things like this to happen then its usually the kids that lose. It's your coaches and administrators that you should blame not the KHSAA. You play w/ fire and your gonna get burned. It's life get over it.
I knew it was just a matters of time b4 Cordia starting playing the race card. Rhodes and Cordia have been so mistreated ever since he and his kids have been here. Well that's so funny, I thought the reason he was bringing these kids here was to put them into a safe environment where they could learn and better themselves. From his Facebook post it sounds like he has put them into harms way instead of helping their situation. It's 2014 and we have a black president, ain't nobody got time for dat!!!
To all the ppl on here saying PCC, KCC and HHS should be punished to are nuts!! All their kids have went through the process and been cleared to play or sit and thats what each of those teams have done. They all 3 have done exactly what the league has told them to do because they play for the Ky High School Athletic Association. This league has rules and if you don't play by them then you will be punished.
I understand why someone would say Cordia doesn't deserve the death penalty. I don't like it anymore than anyone else but when adults and administrators allow things like this to happen then its usually the kids that lose. It's your coaches and administrators that you should blame not the KHSAA. You play w/ fire and your gonna get burned. It's life get over it.
I knew it was just a matters of time b4 Cordia starting playing the race card. Rhodes and Cordia have been so mistreated ever since he and his kids have been here. Well that's so funny, I thought the reason he was bringing these kids here was to put them into a safe environment where they could learn and better themselves. From his Facebook post it sounds like he has put them into harms way instead of helping their situation. It's 2014 and we have a black president, ain't nobody got time for dat!!!
02-23-2014, 11:20 PM
Im not sure about you 14th region fans, but here in the 13th were hoping for the entire 14th region to get the death penalty as a whole.
No 14th region basketball for 20 to life.
No 14th region basketball for 20 to life.
02-23-2014, 11:21 PM
ballstar Wrote:I've stayed away long enough, lol. Huggy bear you have stole my show and I'm not upset. Let everybody talk smack to you instead of me. I agre he match JJ step for step then hit him. Johnson elbow was clearly not intentional. He brought his elbows up high which you are allow to do. You can swing the ball up over your head like that or down low. Johnson's elbows would have been out and not up if he was trying to hit him in the face. You ppl can make what you want out of this but the truth is on video. Cordia get 2 free throws and the ball back after this deal. Blows my mind. KHSAA is reviewing the video as we speak. PCC will probably lose 4/5 players because they left the bench. Cordia will lose several as well if their video is reviewed. I was sitting directly behind their bench and at least 5/6 made it to the floor w/ Rhodes holding them back.
To all the ppl on here saying PCC, KCC and HHS should be punished to are nuts!! All their kids have went through the process and been cleared to play or sit and thats what each of those teams have done. They all 3 have done exactly what the league has told them to do because they play for the Ky High School Athletic Association. This league has rules and if you don't play by them then you will be punished.
I understand why someone would say Cordia doesn't deserve the death penalty. I don't like it anymore than anyone else but when adults and administrators allow things like this to happen then its usually the kids that lose. It's your coaches and administrators that you should blame not the KHSAA. You play w/ fire and your gonna get burned. It's life get over it.
I knew it was just a matters of time b4 Cordia starting playing the race card. Rhodes and Cordia have been so mistreated ever since he and his kids have been here. Well that's so funny, I thought the reason he was bringing these kids here was to put them into a safe environment where they could learn and better themselves. From his Facebook post it sounds like he has put them into harms way instead of helping their situation. It's 2014 and we have a black president, ain't nobody got time for dat!!!
:Thumbs: Good post my man!
02-23-2014, 11:23 PM
OrangenowBlue Wrote:Just watching the fools act more foolish on this site. Always proud when the teams I am for do good. I am even proud of a group of homegrown boys that probably have zero shot of winning the region but still compete every night. I am proud of a school that has produced a volleyball team that has one eight out of the last nine fourteen region titles with homegrown talent. I am proud that we have the defending 14th region girls soccer, girls basketball, and baseball teams all with homegrown players. I am even proud of the football, boys basketball, and boys soccer teams although they are the only sports programs that have not won a regional title in the nine year history of the school. Or I could be like another school in our district who is proud of their team that is made up of 100% transfers. That is proud of their coach who may have brought in these players by any means necessary. Is proud of the fact that if they lose a game, their excuse is that its a vast conspiracy by the officiating. That is proud to use the race card as an excuse at every turn when every team they accuse of doing so has starters and other players that are African American. That is proud of negative behavior on the floor by some of their players.
So three things are definitely true:
I AM PROUD NOT TO BE FROM CORDIA
I AM PROUD NOT TO BE A FAN OF CORDIA
WIN OR LOSE, I AM PROUD TO BE A LETCHER CENTRAL FAN
One last thing, I am bringing back something I posted when RR first came to Cordia.
:kneel:
The chickens may be coming home to roost.
JMO, as a KCC grad, I LOVED when the LCC-KCC games were the biggest games on our schedule. A great rivalry that has taken a back seat. Miss it.
02-23-2014, 11:57 PM
After watching the video, and seeing the actual punch thrown, im not so sure 3 games is enough.
02-24-2014, 12:02 AM
Stlcardsfan Wrote:JMO, as a KCC grad, I LOVED when the LCC-KCC games were the biggest games on our schedule. A great rivalry that has taken a back seat. Miss it.
Likewise..
02-24-2014, 01:25 AM
the crossover Wrote:I Just Saying anytime a fight, punch, or flagrant foul takes place the Refs should accept blame....... 100% of the time it's something missed or ignored that leads to it.
So to make sure I understand, you're saying it's the officials fault that the kid threw a punch?
02-24-2014, 01:50 AM
PapaPoof Wrote:After watching the video, it would appear that Johnson said something to make Chapman throw the punch. If it was in reponse to the supposed elbow by Johnson the punch would have been immediately after the contact. While violence should never be tolerated in any form, neither should comments that provoke it, especially if it was racial. Both should have to sit out a few games.
On the video on you tube you or anybody else can't tell if johnson said anything. How can you even say that. You just assume he said something because chapman sucker punched him. I seen another video from a little bit different view and I didn't see johnson say anything but I did see chapman say he would kill johnson
02-24-2014, 01:54 AM
I'm going to preface this by saying I have no dog in this fight and am just a casual observer of these two programs. But if I am a Cordia administrator, the KHSAA wouldn't have to tell me what to do for the kid's punishment, he wouldn't step foot on a basketball floor the rest of the year whether the coach or whoever else liked it or not. A player who does that at my school, on my watch, would be done for the year.
Also, what did the coaches do during/after the incident? Did they exchange any words? I know it's been mentioned that Rhodes restrained players from running on the floor and Hoskins took his boys to the locker room but was there anything else going on there?
Also, what did the coaches do during/after the incident? Did they exchange any words? I know it's been mentioned that Rhodes restrained players from running on the floor and Hoskins took his boys to the locker room but was there anything else going on there?
02-24-2014, 02:00 AM
No neither coach done anything but went to mid court with the refs and Perry's coach got a little animated when the refs told that cordia would be shooting 2 free throws and getting the ball
02-24-2014, 02:05 AM
hitter Wrote:No neither coach done anything but went to mid court with the refs and Perry's coach got a little animated when the refs told that cordia would be shooting 2 free throws and getting the ball
Good. I'm glad to hear they handled it well. Sounds like he had a great argument about that!
02-24-2014, 10:47 AM
Big deal just a little punch .you all act like it's the end of the world . It doesn't matter your going to have a fight in every sport
02-24-2014, 11:34 AM
Redfan96 Wrote:Big deal just a little punch .you all act like it's the end of the world . It doesn't matter your going to have a fight in every sport
Yea because someone gets hit with a haymaker in every game, perfectly normal. Hell, we should just start encouraging fighting and cheering it on like hockey, right? 14th Region Basketbrawl for all!
02-24-2014, 12:07 PM
This video is the only thing I have seen regarding this game. I don't know or care what (if anything) Johnson said, and I don't care if both or either player is black, white or pink and purple polka dots. The kid who threw the punch should be suspended for the rest of the year. It was calculated, malicious and cowardly. It was also directed straight at the head. This kind of ridiculous and dangerous crap should NOT be tolerated.
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