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01-29-2014, 11:23 PM
Here it is guys. These are where schools fall according to there numbers.
The KHSAA is still allowing teams to request to play up, so this could change by sliding one or two teams around, but if nobody does, this is what it would look like...
Class 1A
Beechwood
Bellevue
Berea
Bethlehem
Bishop Brossart
Bracken County
Campbellsville
Caverna
Crittenden County
Dayton
Eminence
Fairview
Frankfort
Fulton City
Fulton County
Harlan
Hazard
Holy Cross (Louisville)
Jenkins
Kentucky Country Day
Ludlow
Lynn Camp
Nicholas County
Paintsville
Paris
Phelps
Pikeville
Pineville
Raceland
Russellville
South Floyd
Williamsburg
Class 2A
Allen Central
Ballard Memorial
Bath County
Betsy Layne
Butler County
Carroll County
Christian Academy‐Louisville
Clinton County
Danville
DeSales
East Ridge
Fort Knox
Gallatin County
Glasgow
Green County
Hancock County
Holy Cross (Covington)
Leslie County
Lexington Christian
Lloyd Memorial
Mayfield
McLean County
Metcalfe County
Middlesboro
Monroe County
Murray
Newport
Newport Central Catholic
Owen County
Owensboro Catholic
Prestonsburg
Shawnee
Shelby Valley
Somerset
Todd County Central
Trimble County
Walton‐Verona
Washington County
Webster County
West Carter
Class 3A
Adair County
Bardstown
Belfry
Bell County
Boyle County
Breathitt County
Caldwell County
Casey County
Central
Corbin
Edmonson County
Elizabethtown
Estill County
Fleming County
Fort Campbell
Garrard County
Hart County
Henry County
Jackson County
Knott County Central
LaRue County
Lawrence County
Lewis County
Lexington Catholic
Magoffin County
McCreary Central
Moore
Morgan County
Paducah Tilghman
Pendleton County
Pike County Central
Powell County
Russell
Sheldon Clark
Thomas Nelson
Trigg County
Union County
Waggener
Western Hills
Class 4A
Allen County‐Scottsville
Ashland Blazer
Bourbon County
Boyd County
Breckinridge County
Calloway County
Clay County
Collins
Covington Catholic
East Carter
Franklin County
Franklin‐Simpson
Greenup County
Harrison County
Highlands
Holmes
Hopkins County Central
John Hardin
Johnson Central
Knox Central
Letcher County Central
Marion County
Mason County
Mercer County
Nelson County
North Oldham
Perry County Central
Rockcastle County
Rowan County
Russell County
Shelby County
South Warren
Spencer County
Taylor County
Valley
Warren Central
Warren East
Wayne County
Western
Class 5A
Anderson County
Apollo
Atherton
Barren County
Bowling Green
Bullitt Central
Bullitt East
Christian County
Conner
Cooper
Doss
East Jessamine
Fairdale
Grant County
Graves County
Grayson County
Greenwood
Harlan County
Hopkinsville
Iroquois
Lincoln County
Logan County
Madison Southern
Madisonville‐North Hopkins
Marshall County
Montgomery County
North Bullitt
North Laurel
Ohio County
Owensboro
Pulaski County
Scott
South Laurel
South Oldham
Southern
Southwestern
West Jessamine
Whitley County
Woodford County
Class 6A
Ballard
Boone County
Bryan Station
Butler
Campbell County
Central Hardin
Daviess County
Dixie Heights
DuPont Manual
Eastern
Fern Creek
George Rogers Clark
Henderson County
Henry Clay
Jeffersontown
Lafayette
Madison Central
Male
McCracken County
Meade County
Muhlenberg County
North Hardin
Oldham County
Paul Laurence Dunbar
Pleasure Ridge Park
Ryle
Scott County
Seneca
Simon Kenton
St. Xavier
Tates Creek
Trinity (Louisville)
List- http://khsaa.org/football/realignment/20...yClass.pdf
Enrollment numbers per four year average- http://khsaa.org/football/realignment/20...istory.pdf
The KHSAA is still allowing teams to request to play up, so this could change by sliding one or two teams around, but if nobody does, this is what it would look like...
Class 1A
Beechwood
Bellevue
Berea
Bethlehem
Bishop Brossart
Bracken County
Campbellsville
Caverna
Crittenden County
Dayton
Eminence
Fairview
Frankfort
Fulton City
Fulton County
Harlan
Hazard
Holy Cross (Louisville)
Jenkins
Kentucky Country Day
Ludlow
Lynn Camp
Nicholas County
Paintsville
Paris
Phelps
Pikeville
Pineville
Raceland
Russellville
South Floyd
Williamsburg
Class 2A
Allen Central
Ballard Memorial
Bath County
Betsy Layne
Butler County
Carroll County
Christian Academy‐Louisville
Clinton County
Danville
DeSales
East Ridge
Fort Knox
Gallatin County
Glasgow
Green County
Hancock County
Holy Cross (Covington)
Leslie County
Lexington Christian
Lloyd Memorial
Mayfield
McLean County
Metcalfe County
Middlesboro
Monroe County
Murray
Newport
Newport Central Catholic
Owen County
Owensboro Catholic
Prestonsburg
Shawnee
Shelby Valley
Somerset
Todd County Central
Trimble County
Walton‐Verona
Washington County
Webster County
West Carter
Class 3A
Adair County
Bardstown
Belfry
Bell County
Boyle County
Breathitt County
Caldwell County
Casey County
Central
Corbin
Edmonson County
Elizabethtown
Estill County
Fleming County
Fort Campbell
Garrard County
Hart County
Henry County
Jackson County
Knott County Central
LaRue County
Lawrence County
Lewis County
Lexington Catholic
Magoffin County
McCreary Central
Moore
Morgan County
Paducah Tilghman
Pendleton County
Pike County Central
Powell County
Russell
Sheldon Clark
Thomas Nelson
Trigg County
Union County
Waggener
Western Hills
Class 4A
Allen County‐Scottsville
Ashland Blazer
Bourbon County
Boyd County
Breckinridge County
Calloway County
Clay County
Collins
Covington Catholic
East Carter
Franklin County
Franklin‐Simpson
Greenup County
Harrison County
Highlands
Holmes
Hopkins County Central
John Hardin
Johnson Central
Knox Central
Letcher County Central
Marion County
Mason County
Mercer County
Nelson County
North Oldham
Perry County Central
Rockcastle County
Rowan County
Russell County
Shelby County
South Warren
Spencer County
Taylor County
Valley
Warren Central
Warren East
Wayne County
Western
Class 5A
Anderson County
Apollo
Atherton
Barren County
Bowling Green
Bullitt Central
Bullitt East
Christian County
Conner
Cooper
Doss
East Jessamine
Fairdale
Grant County
Graves County
Grayson County
Greenwood
Harlan County
Hopkinsville
Iroquois
Lincoln County
Logan County
Madison Southern
Madisonville‐North Hopkins
Marshall County
Montgomery County
North Bullitt
North Laurel
Ohio County
Owensboro
Pulaski County
Scott
South Laurel
South Oldham
Southern
Southwestern
West Jessamine
Whitley County
Woodford County
Class 6A
Ballard
Boone County
Bryan Station
Butler
Campbell County
Central Hardin
Daviess County
Dixie Heights
DuPont Manual
Eastern
Fern Creek
George Rogers Clark
Henderson County
Henry Clay
Jeffersontown
Lafayette
Madison Central
Male
McCracken County
Meade County
Muhlenberg County
North Hardin
Oldham County
Paul Laurence Dunbar
Pleasure Ridge Park
Ryle
Scott County
Seneca
Simon Kenton
St. Xavier
Tates Creek
Trinity (Louisville)
List- http://khsaa.org/football/realignment/20...yClass.pdf
Enrollment numbers per four year average- http://khsaa.org/football/realignment/20...istory.pdf
01-29-2014, 11:38 PM
3a will be a battle
01-30-2014, 12:20 AM
Everyone assumed Betsy Layne was coming back to Class A with Allen Central going to AA, only AC will move. Shake up will be coming to make the districts work out. I assume Jenkins or Paintsville to District 8. Anyone want to mock it up? haha
01-30-2014, 12:22 AM
As a Highlands fan, I hate seeing Lex CATH and Boyle drop to 3A, will miss those quality teams. They will be top contenders in 3A. In 4A glad to see COV CATH/Highlands matchups continue and John Hardin will give Collins some competition in the west. Now let's see if JC chooses to move up.
01-30-2014, 12:25 AM
Anyone have a list of all the changes as of now. Before the play up request.
01-30-2014, 12:26 AM
Not many powers in 5A. BG, Cooner, Cooper ?
01-30-2014, 12:57 AM
3 A is goina be tough on both sides. 1A gets a little more competitive. BW and Frankfort will probably play for the title of the West while the East remains more competitive. 2A...well, Mayfield/NCC could be classic matchups. As could Desales/Mayfield. We will finally see ir Mayfield really was the best, atleast in the 1st 2 classes. 3A will be very fun to watch.
01-30-2014, 01:13 AM
3A will be so exciting
01-30-2014, 01:45 AM
TNT-MB1 Wrote:Anyone have a list of all the changes as of now. Before the play up request.
This is it.
01-30-2014, 01:55 AM
sstack Wrote:Not many powers in 5A. BG, Cooner, Cooper ?
I was thinking the same.
Notice John Hardin even dropped to 4A.
As a Whitley fan, I must admit I like seeing no traditional powers in the east, and really only one in the west.
While it may not seem 5A will be tough, you have to admit, its a very even playing field, especially if BG starts to taper off some.
01-30-2014, 01:56 AM
Panther Thunder Wrote:Everyone assumed Betsy Layne was coming back to Class A with Allen Central going to AA, only AC will move. Shake up will be coming to make the districts work out. I assume Jenkins or Paintsville to District 8. Anyone want to mock it up? haha
With the KHSAA going to 4 year average on enrollments, I think that was the kicker.
I know this list would look a lot different if it were only 2.
01-30-2014, 02:55 AM
Im going to give 3A a shot using these numbers.
First off, let me add that in my mock, there are 20 teams in the west and 19 in the east.
Region 1
District 1- Caldwell County, Fort Campbell, Paducah Tilghman, Trigg County, Union County
District 2- Edmonson County, Elizabethtown, Hart County, LaRue County
Region 2
District 3- Bardstown, Central, Henry County, Moore, Thomas Nelson, Waggener
District 4- Boyle County, Casey County, Garrard County, Lexington Catholic, Western Hills
Region 3
District 5- Fleming County, Lewis County, Pendleton County, Russell
District 6- Breathitt County, Estill County, Lawrence County, Morgan County, Powell County
Region 4
District 7- Adair County, Bell County, Corbin, Jackson County, McCreary Central
District 8- Belfry, Knott County Central, Magoffin County, Pike County Central, Sheldon Clark
There are one or two teams that might seem displaced a little, but it would put another team even further out if you moved them.
Thoughts?
First off, let me add that in my mock, there are 20 teams in the west and 19 in the east.
Region 1
District 1- Caldwell County, Fort Campbell, Paducah Tilghman, Trigg County, Union County
District 2- Edmonson County, Elizabethtown, Hart County, LaRue County
Region 2
District 3- Bardstown, Central, Henry County, Moore, Thomas Nelson, Waggener
District 4- Boyle County, Casey County, Garrard County, Lexington Catholic, Western Hills
Region 3
District 5- Fleming County, Lewis County, Pendleton County, Russell
District 6- Breathitt County, Estill County, Lawrence County, Morgan County, Powell County
Region 4
District 7- Adair County, Bell County, Corbin, Jackson County, McCreary Central
District 8- Belfry, Knott County Central, Magoffin County, Pike County Central, Sheldon Clark
There are one or two teams that might seem displaced a little, but it would put another team even further out if you moved them.
Thoughts?
01-30-2014, 03:04 AM
5A would be very west heavy if somebody didn't play up.
I think Letcher and Perry will continue to play up, but if they don't, its going to be hard to do that one.
I think Letcher and Perry will continue to play up, but if they don't, its going to be hard to do that one.
01-30-2014, 03:22 AM
I am currently on another tab, been working for about an hour or so. I have made a map of all of Class A. THERE IS NO SCENRAIO WHERE EVERYONE WILL BE HAPPY. This is what we get with 6 classes. District teams are spread way too far apart and not evenly distributed throughout the state. I will post my draft, but it may be ugly for a school or two.
01-30-2014, 03:38 AM
(This post was last modified: 01-30-2014, 04:43 AM by Panther Thunder.)
Here goes nothing, this draws an imaginary line from southern border to northeast thru Lexington and cuts between Brossart and Nicholas County (Complete with terrible photo edit):
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Class A
District 1
Fulton City
Fulton County
Russellville
Crittenden County
District 2
Holy Cross
Caverna
Campbellsville
Bethlehem
District 3
Eminence
Kentucky Country Day
Frankfort
Bishop Brossart
District 4
Beechwood
Bellevue
Ludlow
Dayton
District 5
Bracken County
Berea
Nicholas County
Paris
District 6
Harlan
Williamsburg
Pineville
Lynn Camp
District 7
Fairview
Raceland
South Floyd
Paintsville
District 8
Pikeville
Hazard
Phelps
Jenkins
Now for District 7/8 you have a couple options, I went with what I thought was best. You could switch Pikeville and South Floyd as well and it would be very similar. In fact, the more I think about it, the more I think the two should be switched. Then you could have a juggernaut district with Pikeville, Paintsville, Fairview, and Raceland. Either way, teams will have long trips to either South Floyd or Phelps as neither have a good way to get there.
Also, in the East, you could switch the names of District 6 and 7 to create a north region and a south region if that would be preferred. Right now it is set up East vs. West. Once again, someone is going to be unhappy. Interesting to see how they do it. This would keep things more like they are now in terms or Regional Play. A change could mean a very different look in the early rounds or the playoffs.
As you can see, it is not ideal, but it is as good as you can do in terms of geography, IMO, but would probably make too much sense for those in charge lol.
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Class A
District 1
Fulton City
Fulton County
Russellville
Crittenden County
District 2
Holy Cross
Caverna
Campbellsville
Bethlehem
District 3
Eminence
Kentucky Country Day
Frankfort
Bishop Brossart
District 4
Beechwood
Bellevue
Ludlow
Dayton
District 5
Bracken County
Berea
Nicholas County
Paris
District 6
Harlan
Williamsburg
Pineville
Lynn Camp
District 7
Fairview
Raceland
South Floyd
Paintsville
District 8
Pikeville
Hazard
Phelps
Jenkins
Now for District 7/8 you have a couple options, I went with what I thought was best. You could switch Pikeville and South Floyd as well and it would be very similar. In fact, the more I think about it, the more I think the two should be switched. Then you could have a juggernaut district with Pikeville, Paintsville, Fairview, and Raceland. Either way, teams will have long trips to either South Floyd or Phelps as neither have a good way to get there.
Also, in the East, you could switch the names of District 6 and 7 to create a north region and a south region if that would be preferred. Right now it is set up East vs. West. Once again, someone is going to be unhappy. Interesting to see how they do it. This would keep things more like they are now in terms or Regional Play. A change could mean a very different look in the early rounds or the playoffs.
As you can see, it is not ideal, but it is as good as you can do in terms of geography, IMO, but would probably make too much sense for those in charge lol.
01-30-2014, 06:42 AM
3a just got tougher.. Higlands and JC still have to go at it..
01-30-2014, 08:29 AM
3A looks like the juggernaut class.
As far as i'm concerned, Perry could end up like this:
Stay in 4A
Perry
Letcher
Clay
Knox
Rock
or....
Perry
Johnson Central
Clay
Letcher
Knox?
If we play up in 5A, nothing changes...
Perry
Harlan
Whitley
Letcher
If one of the 2 (Perry or Letcher) doesn't play up, then the 5A district might look like:
Perry/Letcher
Harlan
Whitley
North and/or South Laurel
Lots of scenarios for a lot of teams with this realignment.
As far as i'm concerned, Perry could end up like this:
Stay in 4A
Perry
Letcher
Clay
Knox
Rock
or....
Perry
Johnson Central
Clay
Letcher
Knox?
If we play up in 5A, nothing changes...
Perry
Harlan
Whitley
Letcher
If one of the 2 (Perry or Letcher) doesn't play up, then the 5A district might look like:
Perry/Letcher
Harlan
Whitley
North and/or South Laurel
Lots of scenarios for a lot of teams with this realignment.
01-30-2014, 08:36 AM
Look for Johnson Central, Perry and Letcher to play up to add some depth to the East. And to avoid Northern Ky.
Look for Bath and West Carter to Play up into 3A, moving Magoffin and Morgan down..
Look for Bath and West Carter to Play up into 3A, moving Magoffin and Morgan down..
01-30-2014, 08:40 AM
RunItUpTheGut Wrote:Im going to give 3A a shot using these numbers.I hope for Belfry's sake that this is not their district. It weakens their schedule dramatically.
First off, let me add that in my mock, there are 20 teams in the west and 19 in the east.
Region 1
District 1- Caldwell County, Fort Campbell, Paducah Tilghman, Trigg County, Union County
District 2- Edmonson County, Elizabethtown, Hart County, LaRue County
Region 2
District 3- Bardstown, Central, Henry County, Moore, Thomas Nelson, Waggener
District 4- Boyle County, Casey County, Garrard County, Lexington Catholic, Western Hills
Region 3
District 5- Fleming County, Lewis County, Pendleton County, Russell
District 6- Breathitt County, Estill County, Lawrence County, Morgan County, Powell County
Region 4
District 7- Adair County, Bell County, Corbin, Jackson County, McCreary Central
District 8- Belfry, Knott County Central, Magoffin County, Pike County Central, Sheldon Clark
There are one or two teams that might seem displaced a little, but it would put another team even further out if you moved them.
Thoughts?
01-30-2014, 09:05 AM
RunItUpTheGut Wrote:Im going to give 3A a shot using these numbers.
First off, let me add that in my mock, there are 20 teams in the west and 19 in the east.
Region 1
District 1- Caldwell County, Fort Campbell, Paducah Tilghman, Trigg County, Union County
District 2- Edmonson County, Elizabethtown, Hart County, LaRue County
Region 2
District 3- Bardstown, Central, Henry County, Moore, Thomas Nelson, Waggener
District 4- Boyle County, Casey County, Garrard County, Lexington Catholic, Western Hills
Region 3
District 5- Fleming County, Lewis County, Pendleton County, Russell
District 6- Breathitt County, Estill County, Lawrence County, Morgan County, Powell County
Region 4
District 7- Adair County, Bell County, Corbin, Jackson County, McCreary Central
District 8- Belfry, Knott County Central, Magoffin County, Pike County Central, Sheldon Clark
There are one or two teams that might seem displaced a little, but it would put another team even further out if you moved them.
Thoughts?
If these district and region remains.... Boyle County, Central, Lex Cath out of the West. Belfry and Bell County out of the East are the favorite from 2015-2018.
01-30-2014, 09:06 AM
Here is my 3A Shot:
District 1 (AKA the only sure fire district): Tilghman, Caldwell, Union, Trigg, Ft Campbell
District 2 (The I-65 District): Edmonson, Hart, Larue, Etown, Adair County
District 3 (The Louisville Metro District):Central, Moore, Waggener, Henry County, Pendleton County
District 4 (Bluegrass District): Bardstown, Thomas Nelson, Western Hills, LexCath, Boyle County
District 5 (Southern Kentucky): Corbin, Bell County, Jackson County, Casey County, McCreary Central
District 6 (Mountain Parkway North) : Garrard, Powell, Estill, Fleming, Breathitt
District 7 (NEKY): Russell, Lewis County, Lawrence County, Morgan County
District 8 (SEKY): Belfry, Pike Central, Sheldon Clark, Knott Central, Magoffin County
Pendleton has absolutely no geographical advantage being in 3A and they skew districts. Ideally you would move them to
District 1 (AKA the only sure fire district): Tilghman, Caldwell, Union, Trigg, Ft Campbell
District 2 (The I-65 District): Edmonson, Hart, Larue, Etown, Adair County
District 3 (The Louisville Metro District):Central, Moore, Waggener, Henry County, Pendleton County
District 4 (Bluegrass District): Bardstown, Thomas Nelson, Western Hills, LexCath, Boyle County
District 5 (Southern Kentucky): Corbin, Bell County, Jackson County, Casey County, McCreary Central
District 6 (Mountain Parkway North) : Garrard, Powell, Estill, Fleming, Breathitt
District 7 (NEKY): Russell, Lewis County, Lawrence County, Morgan County
District 8 (SEKY): Belfry, Pike Central, Sheldon Clark, Knott Central, Magoffin County
Pendleton has absolutely no geographical advantage being in 3A and they skew districts. Ideally you would move them to
01-30-2014, 09:27 AM
JC will move up to 5a.
Gut it actually looks pretty good as far as 3a. I think you will see Adair however in west possibly in district with Casey, Boyle and the likes or even in district 2. Western Hills may shift to Henry and central district.
EKU your version looks pretty good as well. I am sure KHSAA will come up with something that will make no sense as usual!!!
Gut it actually looks pretty good as far as 3a. I think you will see Adair however in west possibly in district with Casey, Boyle and the likes or even in district 2. Western Hills may shift to Henry and central district.
EKU your version looks pretty good as well. I am sure KHSAA will come up with something that will make no sense as usual!!!
01-30-2014, 09:51 AM
Will their be any teams in 1a or 2a move up? I know Bath County did last time, but their are some teams this time closer than before.
01-30-2014, 10:01 AM
Letcher will play up and still be in 5A.
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01-30-2014, 10:22 AM
Is it right that teams cant move up if other teams wont move down?
So so teams may not want to move down due to driving distance.
It makes no sense for Letcher, Perry, Knox, Clay not to be in same dist. Very close to each other.
Johnson Central from what I have read is scared of Highlands and wants to make teams drive 2 hours for dist games just so they can avoid Highlands. HOW STUPID.
So so teams may not want to move down due to driving distance.
It makes no sense for Letcher, Perry, Knox, Clay not to be in same dist. Very close to each other.
Johnson Central from what I have read is scared of Highlands and wants to make teams drive 2 hours for dist games just so they can avoid Highlands. HOW STUPID.
01-30-2014, 10:54 AM
sheriff Wrote:Will their be any teams in 1a or 2a move up? I know Bath County did last time, but their are some teams this time closer than before.
I think Bath and West Carter move up...
No 1A team is gonna move up...
01-30-2014, 10:59 AM
I was told by a very reliable source that Bath County will not petition to play up this time. And honestly looking at teams in 2A and 3A, why would they?
01-30-2014, 11:04 AM
Full deck Wrote:Is it right that teams cant move up if other teams wont move down?How do you figure JC is scared.Over the past 6-8 years they have had one of the toughest schedules in the state year after year.Yes they win a some and lose some.But they havent been scared to play anyone.
So so teams may not want to move down due to driving distance.
It makes no sense for Letcher, Perry, Knox, Clay not to be in same dist. Very close to each other.
Johnson Central from what I have read is scared of Highlands and wants to make teams drive 2 hours for dist games just so they can avoid Highlands. HOW STUPID.
01-30-2014, 11:20 AM
I am saying Highlands plays up to 5A to compete with BG. Just a feeling I have. I think if you play up it should be all the way to 6A or super class what ever you want to call it.
01-30-2014, 11:25 AM
Lone Ranger Wrote:I was told by a very reliable source that Bath County will not petition to play up this time. And honestly looking at teams in 2A and 3A, why would they?
For the same reason as before....geographical concerns. Last time it was Bath Co and Russell on the NEKY island in 2A with no other team within an hours drive. This time it is Bath Co and West Carter. Same boat. That decision has not been made yet.
If Magoffin and Morgan were 2A also like it looked like they may have been on the 2 year numbers then you could have the makings of a district. The 4 year pushed both of them to the smallest 3A schools. If Bath Co and West go up then they come down.
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