[ballstar]

When the kid from Owsley gets eligible this will b a totally diff game. I would take Buckhorn at home w/ kid eligible. Can't wait for rematch!

[KHSAA12]

With Hines on the floor? Give me whatever your smoking. And its their first game together bro simmer. Buckhorn beat us last year and still gave top dogs the run for their money. You may be the one that needs to take a step back.

[The Weatherman]

Extra, Extra Read All About It........ Knott is untouchable because ballstar says so. Buckhorn might as well disband and Cordia would be lucky to compete in the 14th region middle school tournament. Hail to ballstar. From my understanding, Calipari is making a call tomorrow. A great basketball mind should not be wasted.

:please:

[ballstar]

Lol, you got that part right. One thing you can bet your life on is that I've forgot more than most on here will EVER know. Being realistic is the first step in understanding BBall. You Cordia homers get on here for the last 3 batches of kids and say your the truth. When you beat the likes of KCC, PCC and HHS(w/a healthy Hollan) then I will become a believer! Until then y'all still behind everyone I just mentioned.

[KHSAA12]

Your opinion matters. Never forget that. Lmao

[ballstar]

It's facts, not opinion! Until Cordia beats someone that matters or when it matters then they are who they are. When they do this I will give them all the respect they deserve. Until then everybody talking loud but ain't saying nothing!

[Crazy Horse]

If Cordia could ever learn how to properly attack a zone defense I don't think they could lose this region. Same thing they struggled badly with last year is also what they struggled with tonight. Now I wasn't at the game but know WAY too many people and have spoke with them all. Buckhorn played a lot of Zone tonight is what I was told, and I'm sorry but 40 three pointers is way too many. If Cordia shoots that many 3's against Knott, it's not going to be good for the Lions. Run some offense, get more movement. Cordia's pressure on defense forcing Buckhorn into turnovers is what won them the game. I'm sorry about what happened to Buckhorn's locker room, truly am! As a graduate of Cordia when I went there we looked at Buckhorn like a brother school. John Noble was always a good friend. I know the hallways are not the same as when I went there but if this is true those student should be ashamed of themselves.

[Buford T Justice]

Ballstar just what is your credentials in coaching. I can't imagine someone with your knowledge not coaching somewhere. Cordia's top 8 players and that is all I am going to refer to as their team. The other 3 kids might not get elidigible but if I were a betting man I will say they will. This is the first game all of Cordia's players have been together fritz Lucien just got elidigible to practice and play Tuesday and Felix frimprom just got elidigible on nov 20. Buckhorn has had this team playing together for years. They will beat hazard right now. With Cordia's length and athleticism they will be a dangerous after they get a few games under their belt. Felix and fritz have not played an organized high school ball game in 20 months. If anyone at that game tonight could not see that Cordia's full court D is really good. Christan Cunningham is better than advertised he can score when ever he wants to. Cordia has really good ball handlers. Cordia had an off shooting night only 4 for 22 from three. Cordia was in control the whole game.the game started 1 to nothing buckhorn on a technical for dunking in warmups I guess. The first trip down the floor cordia hit a three and never trailed and led between a 8 and 12 the whole game. Te big 8 th grader keita is really good now but by mid season will be awesome. Lastly the buckhorn players all seemed like good kids but their fans and coach are the worst I have ever seen John Nobel should have been ejected from the game the way he acted. Cordia will be ok it's a long season it's not where you start its where you finish.

[ballstar]

I agree w/ you Buford that its where you finish. I can promise that my credentials are good enough to speak for themselves, trust me on that. I agree that Cunningham is a great player and I'm sure those others kids are as well. I have been giving you Cordia Lions a hard time because y'all have done everything to deserve it by blowing this team up to b Huntington Prep. Lets let the season play out and see just how good y'all really are. You've got a good test coming up in a couple of days that should let you know where you stand.

[Blue-N-Gold]

Why were Cordia students even in the locker room?

[Buford T Justice]

Hold up on that car wash. I think everyone else has been saying cordia is a prep school not the cordia people. Hell you would think that cordia lost by the way you are blowing. In all honestly if you think that kid from owsley would make a difference then you just showed the reason you are out of coaching if you ever were. Watching basketball on tv and coaching is different. Ball star were you even at the game? If you were you could see who obviously had the better team every time buckhorn cut it close cordia would push it back out. Cordia played just good enough to win. The game was never in doubt i think cordia was looking past buckhorn to Saturday.

[HUB]

Cordia looked like "obviously the better team" when Buckhorn stole it and was going in to tie it up with 20 seconds to go and got bailed out on a no call on a goal tend. No offense to Cordia, they won and deserved it, but "obviously being the better team" might be an overstatement

[jwill]

I was at the game wanting to see what the hype was about. One rumor as a neutral bystander I want to clear up was the locker rooms. I went downstairs to the restroom after the game and on my way back I saw the Buckhorn players yelling, cursing, throwing, kicking, and punching things in the locker room and the door was open. The BUCKHORN PLAYERS were tearing up the locker room because I saw them do it.
As for Cordia, they shot too many 3's. They weren't allowed to b aggressive on defense because fouls were called, some due to hands on offensive player and some were phantom fouls were they reached but no one was touched. Buckhorn had less fouls due to playing zone the entire night, but did not get called for fouls when Cordia eventually decided to penetrate the zone. Several Cordia players were mugged at the end of the game and no call.
The block at the end of the game was a 50/50. It appeared to hit the backboard to me, but also appeared to be below the rim and definitely not in the cylinder.
Overall I was very impressed by Buckhorn, #22 didn't miss the entire game. Cordia needs a lot of work on zone offense. They didn't hit very many 3's and didn't throw the ball inside much at all. The big 8th grader had trouble catching and holding onto the ball. I would play him on JV. Overall Cordia either had a bad night or needs a lot of work to live up to the hype.

[D1Recruiter]

Cordia wins by 4 , Buckhorn stole the ball from Cunningham and went to the rim and the shot was goal tended 100% but was not called. .

I was at this game trying to see what both of these teams had and expected a great game and that is exactly what it was. Both teams were sloppy, but will get better. Great effort on both teams part. As far as a 100% goal tend at the end, that is 100% false! I had a great view and a perfect angle, and in high school the ball can hit the back board and still be blocked as long as it is still going up, and that is exactly what happened. To add to that, I believe Cunningham got absolutely mugged at half court for them to even have a chance at a layup. Also, after the block, a Buckhorn player rebounded the ball with no one within 5 ft of him and blew the easy 1 ft shot for the tie. The officials probably let a few things to many go in the end when Buckhorn was making their run at the end, but all in all it was a okay called game. Cordia used their hands way to much, so the calls should of been in Buckhorn's favor no matter who was at home. I believe the more they play the more Cordia will adjust to the new tighter officiating. Again, great effort from both teams and congrats to Cordia for the win and to Buckhorn for the way they never gave up. Good luck to both teams this season.

[ballstar]

If the ball has came OFF the back board it is goal tending at ANY level. You can hit the ball b4 it hits the back board or while its on the black board but not after its hit and came off the back board.

[zaga_fan]

I was at this game trying to see what both of these teams had and expected a great game and that is exactly what it was. Both teams were sloppy, but will get better. Great effort on both teams part. As far as a 100% goal tend at the end, that is 100% false! I had a great view and a perfect angle, and in high school the ball can hit the back board and still be blocked as long as it is still going up, and that is exactly what happened. To add to that, I believe Cunningham got absolutely mugged at half court for them to even have a chance at a layup. Also, after the block, a Buckhorn player rebounded the ball with no one within 5 ft of him and blew the easy 1 ft shot for the tie. The officials probably let a few things to many go in the end when Buckhorn was making their run at the end, but all in all it was a okay called game. Cordia used their hands way to much, so the calls should of been in Buckhorn's favor no matter who was at home. I believe the more they play the more Cordia will adjust to the new tighter officiating. Again, great effort from both teams and congrats to Cordia for the win and to Buckhorn for the way they never gave up. Good luck to both teams this season.

I've heard a thousand different arguments about the refs and I could care less.

Cordia won this game and that is the bottom line...

BUT to say that the ball hit the backboard and was on the way up defies the laws of physics when taking a normal basketball shot.

For it to be going up after it hit the backboard the kid had to sling the ball up with some weird spin or something.

[jwill]

If the ball has came OFF the back board it is goal tending at ANY level. You can hit the ball b4 it hits the back board or while its on the black board but not after its hit and came off the back board.

read the rule book ballstar. I didn't know the rule either until last year when it was shown during a uk game/noel block, but u can block it off the backboard on the way up, but it rarely happens.

[The Weatherman]

Thanks Ballstar for letting us know that we have to get better. We have everyone working on it.


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[jwill]

Here is the rule,
"goaltending is also called if the ball has already touched the backboard while it is above the height of the rim in its flight, regardless of whether it is in upward or downward flight or whether it is directly above the rim itself.[4][5"
the ball was definitely below the rim a guard blocked it and he didn't dunk in warm ups and i'm neutral. no one was cheated in this game
My one problem with officiating is why call any touch foul above the arc and let everyone mug each other inside the 3 pt line and inside the last 2 minutes. call it consistent and let the kids adjust.

[zaga_fan]

Here is the rule,
"goaltending is also called if the ball has already touched the backboard while it is above the height of the rim in its flight, regardless of whether it is in upward or downward flight or whether it is directly above the rim itself.[4][5"
the ball was definitely below the rim a guard blocked it and he didn't dunk in warm ups and i'm neutral. no one was cheated in this game
My one problem with officiating is why call any touch foul above the arc and let everyone mug each other inside the 3 pt line and inside the last 2 minutes. call it consistent and let the kids adjust.

Is it that the ball was below the rim or that it was on the way up?

You just posted the rule and it says it's not allowed to be touched on the way up...

[zaga_fan]

So the ball hit the back board... was on the way up... and was still below the rim.

Just keeps on getting better.

[jwill]

zaga fan, your a dumbass. if the ball was below the rim then it has to be on the way up and definitely outside the cylinder. go to a game and then post. also learn the rules as well. as mc graduate and I went to watch the game in a hot, overcrowded gym. it was a great game with a great environment. glad I went.
most people that post sit at home, played in grade school and think their coach screw them over or they would have been an all-American. that is why I never post and probably wouldn't have if I didn't see the lies on here that cordia students trashed the locker room, when I personally saw BHS do it after the game. people like u make this site all lies and make believe rumors that others fall for. now I have to get back to work, well lunch time now.

[ballstar]

I will have to admit that I was under the understanding that if it has hit and came off back board and was then blocked it was a goal tending. Thanks jwill, I was wrong! It's seems like it would really hard for the ball to hit the back board under the rim and still have a chance to go in but I guess it's possible.

[Wall4president]

So the ball hit the back board... was on the way up... and was still below the rim.

Just keeps on getting better.

Clearly when a 5'9" guard trys to shoot a layup, the ball is on it's way up when they let it go, EVEN AFTER IT TOUCHES THE BACK BOARD it still has to go up to get above the rim before it starts coming down. What you are talking about is when someone that can jump or a big man shoots a layup they are already above or even with the rim and a block like this is not possible. Talking about physics a ball can not hit below the rim off the backboard and go in without still going up and then over, then in the basket. You didn't do well in physics did you????????

I believe the rule is being mixed up because of the college rule and the high school rule.
In College after the ball touches the backboard, no matter what it can not be touched, this shot would of been goal tending at the college level.
IN HIGH SCHOOL, as long as the ball is still going up after contacting the board and still below the rim which it was in this shot, only about half the ball was above the rim, THE BALL CAN STILL BE BLOCKED, excellent play by cordia player.

[ballstar]

Ain't no lies being told jwill. As for the goal tending call I may have been wrong but the locker room I wasn't. Just call Coach Noble and ask him. If its a lie then he and all the BHS kids started it.

[zaga_fan]

zaga fan, your a dumbass. if the ball was below the rim then it has to be on the way up and definitely outside the cylinder. go to a game and then post. also learn the rules as well. as mc graduate and I went to watch the game in a hot, overcrowded gym. it was a great game with a great environment. glad I went.
most people that post sit at home, played in grade school and think their coach screw them over or they would have been an all-American. that is why I never post and probably wouldn't have if I didn't see the lies on here that cordia students trashed the locker room, when I personally saw BHS do it after the game. people like u make this site all lies and make believe rumors that others fall for. now I have to get back to work, well lunch time now.

Well I appreciate your opinion, but I'm pretty sure that those of us who didn't go to the game should be allowed to be involved in the discussion on here.

However, I've not posted that there was truth to any rumor on here.
Have I referenced the locker room getting trashed?
Have I said what happened with the goal tend?
No I haven't, I'm just trying to put 2 and 2 together from you geniuses and see what happened.

So far I've got that on a layup a ball went up, hit the backboard, bounced upwards and was still under the rim.

Forgive me if I have a hard time understanding - but I'm trying to forget everything I know about physics and gravity to picture this.


also... I'm no all-american and have never claimed to be

[zaga_fan]

Clearly when a 5'9" guard trys to shoot a layup, the ball is on it's way up when they let it go, EVEN AFTER IT TOUCHES THE BACK BOARD it still has to go up to get above the rim before it starts coming down. What you are talking about is when someone that can jump or a big man shoots a layup they are already above or even with the rim and a block like this is not possible. Talking about physics a ball can not hit below the rim off the backboard and go in without still going up and then over, then in the basket. You didn't do well in physics did you????????

I believe the rule is being mixed up because of the college rule and the high school rule.
In College after the ball touches the backboard, no matter what it can not be touched, this shot would of been goal tending at the college level.
IN HIGH SCHOOL, as long as the ball is still going up after contacting the board and still below the rim which it was in this shot, only about half the ball was above the rim, THE BALL CAN STILL BE BLOCKED, excellent play by cordia player.

So you're saying it happened like this....

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[zaga_fan]

I was 5'9" in grade school when I was a budding all-star and my coach always told me to aim for the big square on the backboard when I was shooting lay-ups.

I guess he really did screw me out of being an all-american.

All of this time I was supposed to be aiming below the rim and make the ball go up.

[ballstar]

So you're saying it happened like this....

[Image: http://s24.postimg.org/e42crkt9x/ball_bust.png]

LMBO, I spit Mt Dew everywhere. Easily the funniest post ever!

[KentuckyFan35]

I believe the goaltending was due to the cordia player slapping the back board. Which is the same as hitting or grabing the net.