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11-26-2013, 02:41 PM
Who is your upset or upsets this week? I like Lexington Catholic over Highlands and my other one is Murray over DeSales.:dudecomeon:
11-26-2013, 02:44 PM
I hope you are right but, I don't think either will happen. I guess since Williamsburg is being picked by most on here, I will say them.
11-26-2013, 02:47 PM
A mi-nute change, but I will say Lex Cath. Tough task, FT Highlands is a machine, just hope that machine is missing a few screws, nuts and bolts.
11-26-2013, 02:47 PM
Give me Williamsburg over Raceland and Bourbon over Belfry I'll take two and maybe a lot of crow on Friday night
11-26-2013, 02:48 PM
Bourbon over Belfry is not an upset
11-26-2013, 02:51 PM
Really at this point in the season would any loss (other than Highlands) be considered an upset?
I think most all games are pretty good match ups.
I think most all games are pretty good match ups.
11-26-2013, 03:00 PM
mysonis55 Wrote:I hope you are right but, I don't think either will happen. I guess since Williamsburg is being picked by most on here, I will say them.
what site can i go to 55 to find where everybody picking williamsburg i need to know i want to join also :please: tell me :lmao:
11-26-2013, 03:09 PM
It seems to me the last time I checked the thread on tht game y'all had the burg way out in front. If that's the case I will take the Rams in the upset.
11-26-2013, 03:10 PM
Just checked it. The Rams have nosed ahead. In that case , I guess it's not really an upset.
11-26-2013, 03:21 PM
AtlPirateFan Wrote:Bourbon over Belfry is not an upset
Well lets check the Poll to see how many people think Bourbon will beat Belfry, I'll even let you throw in Cantrall and Max Preps' votes since Im sure that is what you are talking about. Don't worry ... I'll wait. :popcorn:
11-26-2013, 03:37 PM
HSFOOTBALL Wrote:Well lets check the Poll to see how many people think Bourbon will beat Belfry, I'll even let you throw in Cantrall and Max Preps' votes since Im sure that is what you are talking about. Don't worry ... I'll wait. :popcorn:
fan predictions on here mean jack squat and have no impact on who the favorite is. Look at how many Belfry fans and alum are members. There is not a ratings system out there that has Belfry > Bourbon and several of them have Bourbon as the odds on #1 in 3A. Sorry but the Pirates are the underdogs, just where we want to be.
11-26-2013, 03:51 PM
Just so it's 100% clear
MaxPreps:
Bourbon - Natl 1053 - State 17 - 3A 1st
Belfry - Natl 1429 - State 24 - 3A 3rd
Litkenhouse:
Bourbon - 14th in the state, 1st in 3A, 114.1
Belfry - not in top 20, 4th in the state, 104.2
Mike Fields:
Bourbon - 75.4 1st in 3A
Belfry - 75.1 2nd in 3a
Massey Matchups Prediction:
Bourbon - 35
Belfry - 21
Cantrell (most recent I can find)
Bourbon 71.7
Belfry 71.6
Other than BGR vote (useless) the only thing I have found with Belfry predicted over Bourbon is a CJ blog from the start of the playoffs.
"CLASS 3-A * Final pick: Belfry over Paducah Tilghman. * Potential road block: Belfry should cruise to the semifinals, where they’re facing a likely road trip to unbeaten Bourbon County. The top half of the bracket is wide-open. Central has dominated the class over the past six years, but I see Wayne County beating the Yellowjackets in the third round. Paducah Tilghman is just 5-5 but has played a brutal schedule and has home-field advantage through the playoffs. "
Sorry this isn't 2012 and Bourbon is slowly becoming the "pick" for 3A . Bourbon is the favorite, deal with it chief.
MaxPreps:
Bourbon - Natl 1053 - State 17 - 3A 1st
Belfry - Natl 1429 - State 24 - 3A 3rd
Litkenhouse:
Bourbon - 14th in the state, 1st in 3A, 114.1
Belfry - not in top 20, 4th in the state, 104.2
Mike Fields:
Bourbon - 75.4 1st in 3A
Belfry - 75.1 2nd in 3a
Massey Matchups Prediction:
Bourbon - 35
Belfry - 21
Cantrell (most recent I can find)
Bourbon 71.7
Belfry 71.6
Other than BGR vote (useless) the only thing I have found with Belfry predicted over Bourbon is a CJ blog from the start of the playoffs.
"CLASS 3-A * Final pick: Belfry over Paducah Tilghman. * Potential road block: Belfry should cruise to the semifinals, where they’re facing a likely road trip to unbeaten Bourbon County. The top half of the bracket is wide-open. Central has dominated the class over the past six years, but I see Wayne County beating the Yellowjackets in the third round. Paducah Tilghman is just 5-5 but has played a brutal schedule and has home-field advantage through the playoffs. "
Sorry this isn't 2012 and Bourbon is slowly becoming the "pick" for 3A . Bourbon is the favorite, deal with it chief.
11-26-2013, 04:22 PM
AtlPirateFan Wrote:fan predictions on here mean jack squat and have no impact on who the favorite is. Look at how many Belfry fans and alum are members. There is not a ratings system out there that has Belfry > Bourbon and several of them have Bourbon as the odds on #1 in 3A. Sorry but the Pirates are the underdogs, just where we want to be.
If you Belfry fans really thought you were underdogs, you wouldn't be on here beating your chest about how bad you were going to come in here and beat Bourbon like you did last year. To me, and maybe I'm wrong, but thats not playing much of an underdog role....
Chief
11-26-2013, 05:31 PM
Bourbon is inflated by a weak schedule Belfry is the odds on favorite in 3A dont let that mess up your love for your team but they are the underdogs if for nothing else they are playing away and don't mess up my pick by talking smack #karma
Or both of us will be eating crow
Or both of us will be eating crow
11-26-2013, 05:35 PM
HSFOOTBALL Wrote:If you Belfry fans really thought you were underdogs, you wouldn't be on here beating your chest about how bad you were going to come in here and beat Bourbon like you did last year. To me, and maybe I'm wrong, but thats not playing much of an underdog role....
Chief
Goes both ways "Bub"(as you referred to me in another thread)...your team and coaches have had Belfry on their mind since last years game at Belfry. All this "I Remember" and "Them warming up in BG" on twitter from your coaches...to me that sounds obsessed. This is Bourbons Superbowl...if they get the BG, the year is a success as long as they beat the "Crimson Tide" (Bourbon term) aka Belfry this Friday. Yes, we are the underdogs going on the road to a 13-0 team who has been set on revenge since they pulled out of Pond Creek last year. Bourbon has wanted Belfry....well they got Belfry. Be careful what you ask for....
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11-26-2013, 06:13 PM
#1 Blackcat Fan Wrote:Really at this point in the season would any loss (other than Highlands) be considered an upset?
I think most all games are pretty good match ups.
I think the line on the Bowling Green vs John Hardin game is BG +24. I think that is a lot, but I think it would be a pretty big upset, if John Hardin won. JMO.
11-26-2013, 06:16 PM
Somerset over NCC. No one but people from this area even give Somerset a Chance. Fear the Ears!!!! Go Jumpers.
11-26-2013, 06:24 PM
BelfryPride Wrote:Goes both ways "Bub"(as you referred to me in another thread)...your team and coaches have had Belfry on their mind since last years game at Belfry. All this "I Remember" and "Them warming up in BG" on twitter from your coaches...to me that sounds obsessed. This is Bourbons Superbowl...if they get the BG, the year is a success as long as they beat the "Crimson Tide" (Bourbon term) aka Belfry this Friday. Yes, we are the underdogs going on the road to a 13-0 team who has been set on revenge since they pulled out of Pond Creek last year. Bourbon has wanted Belfry....well they got Belfry. Be careful what you ask for....
When looking at the twitter stuff in question, it looks like no one has mentioned Belfry before this week... Noting that you remember the feeling of a loss and the other team playing in BG hardly seems "obsessed"
11-26-2013, 08:38 PM
JuniorVarsityBlues Wrote:When looking at the twitter stuff in question, it looks like no one has mentioned Belfry before this week... Noting that you remember the feeling of a loss and the other team playing in BG hardly seems "obsessed"
https://twitter.com/BCCoachVincent
Notice the profile pic...its the Belfry scoreboard from last years game at Belfry...also has a pic of us warming up on the field ay BG = obesession
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11-26-2013, 08:55 PM
Looks like there are a lot of scoreboards from different games in his pictures? I guess motivation is called obession nowadays? In the back of their minds Belfry and Bourbon knew they were gonna match up with each other again, looking at the schedules that wasn't too hard to figure out...Do Somerset, JC, Southwestern, Pikeville, Galia Academy, Knoxville Cath. have anything to do with Belfrys playoff seeding? Nope...Do Montgomery, Harrison, Breathitt, GRC, Lincoln Co have anything to with Bourbons playoff seeding? Nope.. Belfry has 3 other teams to play in their district, while Bourbon has 5. Looks like Belfry is allowed to a little more with their schedule. I'm sure Bourbon coaches would of loved to of played someone else, other than Western Hills or Bath County, but they can't. So why wouldn't Bourbon use Belfry as motivation, both teams knew they would be there.
11-26-2013, 09:19 PM
Thrillex Wrote:LoI'm sure Bourbon coaches would of loved to of played someone else, other than Western Hills or Bath County, but they can't. So why wouldn't Bourbon use Belfry as motivation, both teams knew they would be there.
Looking at BoCo's schedule on KHSAA, there is some non-district games they could have dropped to play someone respectable.
6A GRC (2-9) not a district game
6A Montgomery Co. (6-5) not a district game
3A Breathitt Co. (7-5) not a district game
4A Harrison Co. (3-8) not a district game
Those are just 4 of the teams that BoCo beat very handily that could have replaced with more favorable competition. Now everyone sees why the schedule is called weak.
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11-26-2013, 09:39 PM
It's not like you can go pull a schedule of out thin air...Southwestern is a middle of the road 5A team, along with Montgomery and Lincoln, yet Belfry didn't beat them handily. What's that mean? How would you explain that one?
(Sorry, I love constructive criticism)
(Sorry, I love constructive criticism)
11-26-2013, 09:44 PM
HSFOOTBALL Wrote:If you Belfry fans really thought you were underdogs, you wouldn't be on here beating your chest about how bad you were going to come in here and beat Bourbon like you did last year. To me, and maybe I'm wrong, but thats not playing much of an underdog role....
Chief
And if you shoveled more Central Ky. horse dung, it would be a more positive accomplishment than most of your posts. Negativity sucks.:biggrin:
11-26-2013, 09:57 PM
Thrillex Wrote:It's not like you can go pull a schedule of out thin air...Southwestern is a middle of the road 5A team, along with Montgomery and Lincoln, yet Belfry didn't beat them handily. What's that mean? How would you explain that one?
(Sorry, I love constructive criticism)
We didn't play Montgomery or Lincoln. Its not harder to make a schedule for BoCo than it is for anyone else. The teams Belfry played out of district atleast finished at .500 or better. If you don't have instate teams to play, go to Tennessee or Ohio to find competition. Belfry played Christian Academy of Knoxville this season in Tennessee. In years past Belfry played Ironton,OH numerous times. I'd love for the Belfry to play Alcoa,TN...we would get beat handily but hey its all about preparation for adversity, something Bourbon hasn't faced at all. Can Bourbon come back if faced with a 14 pt defecit in the 3rd qtr? Bourbon is very accustomed to running clocks by halftime so could the colonels play 4 quarters of football?
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11-26-2013, 10:18 PM
I'm saying you want to act like Lincoln or Montgomery weren't formidable foes because they blew them out. Lincoln Co. beat Southwestern, does that not give Lincoln any credibility? I mean, shouldn't Belfry of blown out Southwestern? A lot of teams that would of played GRC's schedule would have the same record.(Scott x2 ,Boyle, Anderson, Henry Clay) GRC was able to score on all of them. Had a 10-0 lead on Boyle at half, and trailed Scott Co. 35-20 in their playoff game(not that it really matters). Belfry will be well prepared for Bourbon, no doubt in my mind. But I think this game is a push, whoever wins it'll be great for their respective fan base.
11-26-2013, 10:47 PM
I never even mentioned Lincoln. GRC and Harrison was horrible. There's no way that you can justify that weak schedule. No one can change their district opponents so if you have a weak district like Belfry and Bourbon does then you as a coach needs to schedule quality opponents that can give your team the adversity it needs to go through. I've seen many of 13-0 teams go down because they didn't prepare for adversity. As a head coach, how do you know your team if they win each game very handily and don't know how to make adjustments if they never get behind? Maybe it won't affect them if they go down 28-14 and they can comeback, but that's a maybe. It's very plausible it could happen for either team. Belfry has been there down 19-0 and won handily, they find ways to win. Can Bourbon do that? That remains to be seen.
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11-26-2013, 10:51 PM
We have 3 more days and all of the talk will be over. Then it will be time to play the game. One team will play one more game and the other will roll out the basketballs. Hoping for an injury free game.
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11-26-2013, 11:44 PM
Harrison is a rival. They have played each other for years. But the rest could have been changed.
11-27-2013, 12:37 AM
Doodie Wrote:Harrison is a rival. They have played each other for years. But the rest could have been changed.
Well, rivals come and go. Prestonsburg was a Belfry rival for many years and that series was ended 2 years ago. Our new primary rival is Pike Central, it's hard to claim them
As a true rival since they have never beaten us. So the rivalry thing still don't hold any weight when it comes to SOS. I still cannot get a BOCO fan to answer the question on how their team would respond to adversity if they ever fell behind in a game not having faced that this season.
11-27-2013, 07:41 AM
AtlPirateFan Wrote:fan predictions on here mean jack squat and have no impact on who the favorite is. Look at how many Belfry fans and alum are members. There is not a ratings system out there that has Belfry > Bourbon and several of them have Bourbon as the odds on #1 in 3A. Sorry but the Pirates are the underdogs, just where we want to be.
By using that logic you could also say Haywood isn't the USA Today National Coach of the Year. A large fanbase could just stuff the ballot box.
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