Tell Me Why Magoffin Co. Isn't Lifting Weights?

vince · 02-04-2006, 05:09 PM

OK, DOES ANYONE IN MAGOFFIN CO. KNOW WHO THE COACH OR COACHES ARE GONNA BE? I'VE TALKED TO PEOPLE FROM MAGOFFIN WHO DOESNT HAVE A CLUE.MAGOFFIN CO. HASNT EVEN BEEN IN THE WEIGHT ROOM AND SPRING BALL ISNT THAT FAR AWAY.FIRST OF ALL, DONT LIFT WEIGHTS, YOU DONT GET STRONGER, IN TERN ,YOU DONT GET ANY BETTER.SO WHEN ITS ANOTHER 1-9 0R 0-10, HUMMMMMMM, I WONDER WHY?
THE KIDS CANT LIFT IF YOU DONT HAVE A WEIGHT PROGRAM.I'VE ALSO HEARD WELL SUCH AND SUCH IS LIFTING AT HOME OR THE GYM 3 TIMES A WEEK.
THAT'S GOOD BUT IT AINT GONNA MAKE THE TEAM BETTER AS A WHOLE.
AINT IT ABOUT TIME TO GET STARTED? WHATS THE HOLD UP?
SOMEBODY IN THE ADMIN. BETTER TAKE A HARD LOOK AT WHAT MAGOFFIN IS DOING AND WHAT EVERYBODYELSE IS DOING AND I THINK YOU'LL SEE THE ANSWER IS "MAGOFFIN CO. IS DOING NOTHING TO IMPROVE OR EVER GET BETTER".IS IT FAIR TO THE KIDS THAT THEY DONT HAVE TO LIFT ?
ALL YOUR DOING IS CHEATING THEM. YOUR TEACHING THEM "WE AINT FOOLIN WITH LIFTIN WEIGHTS, WE'LL WORRY BOUT FOOTBALL WHEN THE SEASON GETS HERE".I'LL GIVE YOU A HINT, IT'S TOO LATE THEN.
YOU WONT HAVE A CHANCE( ONCE AGAIN).ASK BELFRY, PBURG,EVEN ASK PIKE CENTRAL, I GUARUNTEE THEY'RE ALL GETTIN IT IN THE WEIGHT ROOM.
SO MAKE A DECISION, DO THE THINGS TO GIVE MAGOFFIN CO. A CHANCE OR DO AWAY WITH IT ALL TOGETHER.THERE AINT NO NEED TO TALK ABOUT GOING INDEPENDENT, WILL THAT EVEN HELP??YOU COULD STILL BE 1-9 OR EVEN 0-10. FOOTBALL PLAYERS ARE MADE IN THE WEIGHT ROOM.IT'S NOT FAIR TO THE FOOTBALL PLAYERS OF MAGOFFIN CO. THAT SOMEONE DOESN'T CARE ENOUGH TO DO THE THINGS OR GIVE THEM THE THINGS THEY NEED SO THEY AT LEAST HAVE A CHANCE.ITS A REAL DISGRACE, YOUR CHEATING THOSE KIDS AND TEACHING THEM THAT HARD WORK JUST AINT IMPORTANT UP AROUND HERE. WHAT A SHAME.:beerwez:

vince · 02-04-2006, 05:24 PM

Are you people in the admin. ever gonna do anything? Its up to the kids to lift, but no weight program, No lifting.A player here and there lifting on their own just aint enough to get better or be a better team.Dont even say you do for the football team!They got a broke sled, no chutes, no ropes, hummmmmmmm. wait oh yes, they did have tires to push because their sled didnt work(broken).Ok, it's feb. and no weight program at all for the football team.Do you want to lose? Do you not want the football team to have a chance at all? Do you want those kids to be humiliated every friday night? Ive said it's up tp the kids to work hard and get better but your not giving them the things to do it with, so you know what, i dont blame them.
Why is it so hard to get it together in Magoffin co. and do the things to give those football players a fair chance to at least have a chance? the way it looks right now, nobody can even answer that question.

vince · 02-04-2006, 05:30 PM

WAKE UP MAGOFFIN CO. ADMINISTRATION!!!
FOR ONCE, DO SOMETHING TO HELP THE FOOTBALL TEAM!!!
THESE KIDS DESERVE A CHANCE TO LIVE THER DREAMS, AND BE WINNERS!!!
SO...............................WAKE UP OVER THERE!!!
and do the things it takes and give them the things they need to have a chance to be a winner, otherwise, or shut her down, that simple.

vince · 02-04-2006, 05:50 PM

WEIGHT ROOM= A BUILDING( WITH WEIGHTS) FOR THE FOOTBALL TEAM TO LIFT.
COACH= THE GUY WHO WILL TEACH THEM HOW TO LIFT PRPERLY FOR FOOTBALL RELATED PURPOSES AND STRENGTH TRAINING.
FOOTBALL TEAM= A GROUP OF YOUNG MEN WHO HAVE CHOSEN TO BE FOOTBALL PLAYERS AND WORK TOGETHER FOR ONE COMMON GOAL( TO WIN)AS A TEAM AND BE CHAMPIONS, TO MAKE THE PLAYOFFS.
THE ADMINISTRATION= THE PEOPLE WHO SUPPLY THE COACH, THE TEAM WITH THE THINGS THEY NEED IN ORDER TO HAVE A CHANCE TO WIN( AND ALSO THE ABOVE).
is it getting any clearer?
I appologise for ranting but why in the world doesnt somebody do something or care enough to see to it that the football team for Magoffin co. has the things they need to at least have a chance to be able to compete.It makes me very angry to see those kids cheated and then ultimatley being humiliated on friday nights cause they havnt been in the weight room, dont have proper equiptment for practice and the worst " BEING TAUGHT , THEY AINT GOTTA WORRY BOUT FOOTBALL TILL JULY ANYWAYS!
If anyone tells me or says "WELL, WE GOT THEM THIS OR WE GOT THEM THAT"
I'LL TELL YOU YOUR A LIAR! STOP CHEATING THE KIDS AND GET THEM WHAT THEY NEED!! AND STOP MAKING EXCUSES WHY YOU CANT GET THAT CAUSE ITS FOR THE FOOTBALL TEAM! WHATTA BUNCH OF CRAP! ok im done it,s off my chest.

~~PantherPride68~~ · 02-04-2006, 10:11 PM

If these kids arent lifting and its this late in the year I say shut the program down before these kids get hurt. It sounds to me like the powers that be in that school system have no pride,no heart,and no guts. My heart goes out to these kids.

hillbillyman · 02-04-2006, 10:51 PM

cause they do not want to

vince · 02-04-2006, 11:20 PM

cause they do not want to, hmmmmmmmmm. MYgosh it's all so clear now.
Thanks so much for that brain **** hillbilly man. Geeze, if only i could figure theses sort of things out as quickly as you.
Well i guess we know why theyaint liftin, Hillbilly man you have got to be with the administration cause that's their attitude as well.

vince · 02-04-2006, 11:26 PM

Hillbilly Man , You Are The 10,000 $$$$$ Winner
Stay Tuned Next Week As Hillbilly Man Will Answer The Question" Why Did Jack And Jill Go Up The Hill???
Serious Qestion Hillbilly Man, I Bet If You Had A Son On That Team Or A Brother You'd Wanna Know Why.
"cause They Dont Want To Just Wont Cut It Pal.

MCHS_FBALL#14 · 02-05-2006, 04:15 PM

Well maybe if they had a coach down there making them lift they would be.... but from my understandings Coach howard has been releived of all coaching duties for 1 year for his altercation with a coach and parent at a middle school basketball game. So you cant really blame the kids on this one... why dont the assitants go to school one day and call a meeting and tell the kids that THEY will be lifting weights 3 days a week. But thats just my opinion
btw Vince didnt you say you were gonna help with the team here is your chance to make your impact! :coach:

vince · 02-05-2006, 05:02 PM

Why is it you always miss the point #14.First of all, Go back, Read my posts.
I never blamed the kids the first time. Stop jumping the gun on everything I say.
I stated clearly and I quote, "They're cheating the kids by not having a weight program". No, i never blamed the kids, It's clearly not their fault they dont have anyone to see to it their lifting.It's funny how you always take what Isay for Magoffin co. and totally read it backwards #14. I think it's a shame noone cares enough about those kids to see to it a weight program is going and here it's feb.How can I help if they dont even know who their head coach is gonna be.It's obvious you got a personal thing going here T#### H#######. I ll tell you what, I'll be more than glad to come down and talk with you about this personal issue you have and see if we cant work this out, ok buddy.My whole purpose of this post is becauseI wanna know why SOMEBODY AT THE TOP DOES'NT CARE ENOUGH TO SEE TO IT THESES KIDS ARE IN THE WEIGHT ROOM DOING WHAT EVERY OTHER TEAM IN THE STATE IS DOING.
THE ONLY PEOPLE CHEATED ARE THE KIDS! I tell also T.H., WHEN YOUR READY TO DISCUSS YOUR PROBLEM WITH ME , WHY DON'T WE GO AHEAD AND HAVE A LITTLE BASIC CLASS ON LITERATURE, CAUSE IT'S APPARENT, YOU CAN'T READ.

~~PantherPride68~~ · 02-05-2006, 07:05 PM

hillbillyman Wrote:cause they do not want to

What do you mean? That the school system dont want a good football program,or the kids dont want to lift?

HeartOFaChampion · 02-05-2006, 07:26 PM

:omg: I know this answer but i guess i'm goin to use a lifeline to call them and ask. but i think imo that if these kids did get into a weight-room they still can't figure out how to win! This program needs to shut down before it gets worse. But anyway i called them and they didn't even know the answer i guess we are all goin to wait on hillbilly man to answer that one for us all!!!!:bounce: Can't wait to find out the answer!

vince Wrote:Hillbilly Man , You Are The 10,000 $$$$$ Winner
Stay Tuned Next Week As Hillbilly Man Will Answer The Question" Why Did Jack And Jill Go Up The Hill???
Serious Qestion Hillbilly Man, I Bet If You Had A Son On That Team Or A Brother You'd Wanna Know Why.
"cause They Dont Want To Just Wont Cut It Pal.

KentuckyHillBilly5321 · 02-05-2006, 10:37 PM

Vince--why are you always blaming the administration?

If the coach has really been suspended for a year--you need to blame him first (if any of this is true).

Having a coach is a great thing and all--but these kids have a built in reason to be motivated--yet you continue to put all of the blame on someone else.

If I was a kid in this program--I would be WORKING HARDER now than ever. Simply because I would know that things are not good--and I had to be the one to make a difference.

Also--keep in mind--the administration has to follow certain procedures before they hire a coach.

And--if you are so worried about what is going on--why don't you go up there and supervise weights for the team. I am sure that they would appreciate the help.

At the very least--have some guts and call the administration and see what the deal is. That may explain a little more about the situation.

Do you actually think that their administration comes on this board to look for comments like this?

KentuckyHillBilly5321 · 02-05-2006, 10:42 PM

vince Wrote:Why is it you always miss the point #14.First of all, Go back, Read my posts.
I never blamed the kids the first time. Stop jumping the gun on everything I say.
I stated clearly and I quote, "They're cheating the kids by not having a weight program". No, i never blamed the kids, It's clearly not their fault they dont have anyone to see to it their lifting.It's funny how you always take what Isay for Magoffin co. and totally read it backwards #14. I think it's a shame noone cares enough about those kids to see to it a weight program is going and here it's feb.How can I help if they dont even know who their head coach is gonna be.It's obvious you got a personal thing going here T#### H#######. I ll tell you what, I'll be more than glad to come down and talk with you about this personal issue you have and see if we cant work this out, ok buddy.My whole purpose of this post is becauseI wanna know why SOMEBODY AT THE TOP DOES'NT CARE ENOUGH TO SEE TO IT THESES KIDS ARE IN THE WEIGHT ROOM DOING WHAT EVERY OTHER TEAM IN THE STATE IS DOING.
THE ONLY PEOPLE CHEATED ARE THE KIDS! I tell also T.H., WHEN YOUR READY TO DISCUSS YOUR PROBLEM WITH ME , WHY DON'T WE GO AHEAD AND HAVE A LITTLE BASIC CLASS ON LITERATURE, CAUSE IT'S APPARENT, YOU CAN'T READ.

It is also apparent that you haven't that you have not listened to the requests to quit typing in all caps.

PLEASE---STOP!

MCHS_FBALL#14 · 02-06-2006, 01:14 AM

vince Wrote:Why is it you always miss the point #14.First of all, Go back, Read my posts.
I never blamed the kids the first time. Stop jumping the gun on everything I say.
I stated clearly and I quote, "They're cheating the kids by not having a weight program". No, i never blamed the kids, It's clearly not their fault they dont have anyone to see to it their lifting.It's funny how you always take what Isay for Magoffin co. and totally read it backwards #14. I think it's a shame noone cares enough about those kids to see to it a weight program is going and here it's feb.How can I help if they dont even know who their head coach is gonna be.It's obvious you got a personal thing going here T#### H#######. I ll tell you what, I'll be more than glad to come down and talk with you about this personal issue you have and see if we cant work this out, ok buddy.My whole purpose of this post is becauseI wanna know why SOMEBODY AT THE TOP DOES'NT CARE ENOUGH TO SEE TO IT THESES KIDS ARE IN THE WEIGHT ROOM DOING WHAT EVERY OTHER TEAM IN THE STATE IS DOING.
THE ONLY PEOPLE CHEATED ARE THE KIDS! I tell also T.H., WHEN YOUR READY TO DISCUSS YOUR PROBLEM WITH ME , WHY DON'T WE GO AHEAD AND HAVE A LITTLE BASIC CLASS ON LITERATURE, CAUSE IT'S APPARENT, YOU CAN'T READ.

Whoa there Vince where in my post did i say that you blamed the kids NOWHERE and for the fact I am actually agreeing with you about this so how about you quit jumping the gun and saying that I disagree with everything you say sure I have most of it but this time your raising a valid point. As for the me not being able to read comment that irks me I mean really wtf was that for can you answer me that????

**alfus21** · 02-06-2006, 05:52 AM

wow

tb15 · 02-06-2006, 12:21 PM

Mag. Co. has had no support for years. They had a good coach in Brown but they didn't support him. They could have a program but that is what it has to be a program. You have to have a system to go along with the program. I mean look Coach Williams proved you can win there and someone else could but they have to have the support.

My thoughts are that Mag. Co. doesn't want to put the $ into the program. If it were my children and they wanted to play ft. ball I would get them out of there because they are never going to support that program.

chadjohnson85 · 02-06-2006, 12:21 PM

wish luck to Magoffin on finding a new coach\

FATMAN · 02-06-2006, 02:50 PM

ive heard they are starting to day

Football24_7 · 02-06-2006, 06:36 PM

FATMAN Wrote:ive heard they are starting to day

They should be very WELL-RESTED and REFRESHED!

vince · 02-07-2006, 02:07 AM

Ok, Since caps simply bother you so bad.Hillbilly, "How can the kids simply work harder when they do not even have acess to a weight room?" How can they get better when they dont even have a sled,ropes,blocking dummies? See now? Mabey the lifting wont enable them to win , but it very well may keep one of them from gettig seriously hurt.
The whole point is "How will we ever know if they can be better if their not given what they need to get better?" Work harder, I agree, But who's goning to see that they work harder? Hillbilly, get on the phone and call the AD at Magoffin co. and ask who is going to be your coach this year? Go ahead and ask "Is the football team in the weight room?" Bet you anything he won't be able to tell you.See doesnt matter how hard the kids work in a situation like that. T.H., my apologies, i get a little fired up about this whole thing because their good kids over there and some talent and nobody really even cares if they even have a football team.( besides the players). Hillbilly, the next person uses caps( and they all the time do) you need to tell them the same thing as well. PRETTY BAD WHEN SOMEONE IS THAT NITPICKY. OH MY GOODNESS, NO! NO!
NOT THE CAPS! RUN FOR YOUR LIFE, LOG OFF NOW! IT'S , IT'S, IT'S THE CAPS LOCK!!!
CAPSAPHOBIA IS TREATABLE HILLBILLY(HAHAHAHA)

Horse Head · 02-07-2006, 02:40 AM

i wonder why they are not

FATMAN · 02-07-2006, 10:15 AM

vince Wrote:Ok, Since caps simply bother you so bad.Hillbilly, "How can the kids simply work harder when they do not even have acess to a weight room?" How can they get better when they dont even have a sled,ropes,blocking dummies? See now? Mabey the lifting wont enable them to win , but it very well may keep one of them from gettig seriously hurt.
The whole point is "How will we ever know if they can be better if their not given what they need to get better?" Work harder, I agree, But who's goning to see that they work harder? Hillbilly, get on the phone and call the AD at Magoffin co. and ask who is going to be your coach this year? Go ahead and ask "Is the football team in the weight room?" Bet you anything he won't be able to tell you.See doesnt matter how hard the kids work in a situation like that. T.H., my apologies, i get a little fired up about this whole thing because their good kids over there and some talent and nobody really even cares if they even have a football team.( besides the players). Hillbilly, the next person uses caps( and they all the time do) you need to tell them the same thing as well. PRETTY BAD WHEN SOMEONE IS THAT NITPICKY. OH MY GOODNESS, NO! NO!
NOT THE CAPS! RUN FOR YOUR LIFE, LOG OFF NOW! IT'S , IT'S, IT'S THE CAPS LOCK!!!
CAPSAPHOBIA IS TREATABLE HILLBILLY(HAHAHAHA)

if the kids wanted 2 lift they could went to the weight room in town ive seen several kids up there lifting

Blazer · 02-07-2006, 01:06 PM

I think the kids should get together and lift among themselves...wether they have a coach or not......seems like Magoffin is the only team that is not lifting right now........

Horse Head · 02-07-2006, 05:58 PM

they should do something

~~PantherPride68~~ · 02-07-2006, 07:16 PM

Blazer Wrote:I think the kids should get together and lift among themselves...wether they have a coach or not......seems like Magoffin is the only team that is not lifting right now........

How screwed up is this though? Youre asking 15-17 year old kids to get together and train for football unsupervised? I know what youre saying im not blasting youre idea or anything but its hard to get teenagers these days to decide what movie to go see much less come up with a formidable weight training plan. But its an apparent fact that this school just doesnt care about sports in general cause its not like theyre good in anything else either. Its also sadly apprarent that,judging by the posts from folks over there on this thread, they are more interested in fighting amongst them selves than confronting the real enemy, the school board.

KentuckyHillBilly5321 · 02-07-2006, 09:26 PM

vince Wrote:Ok, Since caps simply bother you so bad.Hillbilly, "How can the kids simply work harder when they do not even have acess to a weight room?" How can they get better when they dont even have a sled,ropes,blocking dummies? See now? Mabey the lifting wont enable them to win , but it very well may keep one of them from gettig seriously hurt.
The whole point is "How will we ever know if they can be better if their not given what they need to get better?" Work harder, I agree, But who's goning to see that they work harder? Hillbilly, get on the phone and call the AD at Magoffin co. and ask who is going to be your coach this year? Go ahead and ask "Is the football team in the weight room?" Bet you anything he won't be able to tell you.See doesnt matter how hard the kids work in a situation like that. T.H., my apologies, i get a little fired up about this whole thing because their good kids over there and some talent and nobody really even cares if they even have a football team.( besides the players). Hillbilly, the next person uses caps( and they all the time do) you need to tell them the same thing as well. PRETTY BAD WHEN SOMEONE IS THAT NITPICKY. OH MY GOODNESS, NO! NO!
NOT THE CAPS! RUN FOR YOUR LIFE, LOG OFF NOW! IT'S , IT'S, IT'S THE CAPS LOCK!!!
CAPSAPHOBIA IS TREATABLE HILLBILLY(HAHAHAHA)

Vince--I would suggest that you quit being such a smart alect. I can promise--that isn't going to get you anywhere with me.

If you want to use caps to make a point--that is fine--but quit doing it throughout your posts. It is hard to read--and people usually don't waste time reading it (I don't know if that is true with your posts--because you are usually so busy trying to stir up trouble--I think people get a good laugh out of it).

If the kids are locked out of the weightroom--that is one thing--but I don't think that is the truth.

I wouldn't waste my time calling the AD--he HAS NO OFFICIAL HIRING/FIRING AUTHORITY. I would call the principal and see what is going on if you are so concerned.

I also get the feeling that, if this was so important to the players at Magoffin--that their parents would be calling up there every day trying to get things going. You have obviously forgotten that administrators will usually do anything to make parents happy.

And last-I would love to know what you are doing (besides getting on a message board and complaining like a baby) to help the situation. Seriously--if I was going for a job at a place like this--and I read this mess on a message board (which a LOT of coaches do), I wouldn't want to come to a place like this--not because of the administration--but because of the FAN support. And there are a lot of coaches who feel that way about certain jobs.

So--say what you will. You are NOT helping the situation--you are aggravating it to an unrealistic level.

If that makes you feel good about yourself--then keep on rolling.

vince · 02-09-2006, 12:52 AM

You know Hillbilly it is you that is the big baby on here.You critisize evry post i make( whether it is good or bad and i do have some good posts as well).I dont care who or what you are on here, if your gonna fire at me, i will fire back at you.Every time i make a post, It's a bunch of negativity from you.I like to hear people's opinions, but you like to use phrases like,"YOUR ON DRUGS AND BIG BABY". IT'S A FOOTBALL POST!
If you dislike my posts, simply don't read them.Like i said cause your an administrator don't mean you can't get back what you dish out.

KentuckyHillBilly5321 · 02-09-2006, 02:04 AM

vince Wrote:You know Hillbilly it is you that is the big baby on here.You critisize evry post i make( whether it is good or bad and i do have some good posts as well).I dont care who or what you are on here, if your gonna fire at me, i will fire back at you.Every time i make a post, It's a bunch of negativity from you.I like to hear people's opinions, but you like to use phrases like,"YOUR ON DRUGS AND BIG BABY". IT'S A FOOTBALL POST!
If you dislike my posts, simply don't read them.Like i said cause your an administrator don't mean you can't get back what you dish out.

Look there Vince--if I wanted to abuse my powers an administrator--I would have done it a long time ago when you continued to strain our eyes by typing in ALL CAPS. Also--I would be careful there--no one here has been unfair to you (from this site) in regard to any type of abuse of power. Some of your statements could be proven as LIES immediately--but no one here has had one cross word to say to you about it. I would suggest that you NEVER try to act like I am abusing my power as an administrator again. I have NOT and WILL NOT do that. If it makes you happy--I will quit being mod or admin--and I will continue to blow up your nonfactual, uninformed posts. It doesn't make any difference to me at all.

The point of the matter is that you come on here and say things that you have no clue or understanding about--most likely because you want to stir up trouble.

So, instead of watching this mess--I have decided to go on the offensive with facts (that you have yet to disprove).

If that bothers you--I am real sorry (Ah--NO NOT REALLY).

I would suggest that you actually TRY to make a difference instead of coming on a message board and complaining about everything and everybody that you don't like.

You forget--I am in this business. I know what the truth is--and what the truth isn't. If I am wrong--bring some facts to the table that prove me WRONG-if not--take some of that anger and go up to the school and help the kids who want to lift.

Until you do that--you are just as bad as the administrator or AD--or better yet--you are no different.

Matt_Knee · 02-09-2006, 02:05 AM

Lifting weights doesn't have a whole lot to do with a coach. i mean, a coach can tell you to lift weights and so forth, but he cant force anyone to actually lift. The players have to have the desire to get bigger, stronger, and faster or they simply wont do it. If a kid has a stong enough will to lift weights, he could easily find a place lift.

You don't have to have a coach telling you that your team is gonna be horrible if you dont prepare in the off-season. I believe they have gotten point by now.

I bet MC hasn't had many people in the weight room in years passed and it shows.