[Lynch47]

Yes, that's what I have.
Both teams had success on the ground.
I'm glad we worked that out.

Enough with trying to turn this into a feel good story. JC won the game and now its time to move on to bigger and better things, still a lot of ball for you guys to play. The Ashland Daily has Harlan Co. at 210 yards on 40 carries. 68 came on the opening play after their RB broke several tackles at the line of scrimmage. That leaves 142 yards after that one play on 39 carries. (3.6 YPC) In the 4th quarter HC ran the ball 16 times for 78 yards facing a slapped together defense with a few starters and several JV and Freshmen players. So after that one carry until the end of the 3rd HCHS had 64 yards on 23 carries. JC also had the ball inside the HC 5 yard line in the 3rd Quarter up 36-0 and elected to go for a FG, that was blocked, on a 4th and 1 situation. The drive that HC scored their last touchdown they obtained possession illegally after the HC kickoff team took out JC's front line before the ball traveled 10 yards, which is a new rule this year. The refs never called it and Harlan Co. would go on to score. Best of luck the rest of the way and go take state. I think it is great that the mountains big 3 are playing each other. Hopefully this series will continue past next season.

[HDE]

Enough with trying to turn this into a feel good story. JC won the game and now its time to move on to bigger and better things, still a lot of ball for you guys to play. JC also had the ball inside the HC 5 yard line in the 3rd Quarter up 36-0 and elected to go for a FG, that was blocked, on a 4th and 1 situation.

It was actually 4th and 4 from the 8 when the field goal was missed.

Johnson Central is a great team. They were clearly better and I hope they win the 4A state title.

They didn't make a bunch of tackles behind the line of scrimmage though, which was the point I was trying to clarify.

No feel good story at all. Just the facts.

[Gummie Bear]

Enough with trying to turn this into a feel good story. JC won the game and now its time to move on to bigger and better things, still a lot of ball for you guys to play. The Ashland Daily has Harlan Co. at 210 yards on 40 carries. 68 came on the opening play after their RB broke several tackles at the line of scrimmage. That leaves 142 yards after that one play on 39 carries. (3.6 YPC) In the 4th quarter HC ran the ball 16 times for 78 yards facing a slapped together defense with a few starters and several JV and Freshmen players. So after that one carry until the end of the 3rd HCHS had 64 yards on 23 carries. JC also had the ball inside the HC 5 yard line in the 3rd Quarter up 36-0 and elected to go for a FG, that was blocked, on a 4th and 1 situation. The drive that HC scored their last touchdown they obtained possession illegally after the HC kickoff team took out JC's front line before the ball traveled 10 yards, which is a new rule this year. The refs never called it and Harlan Co. would go on to score. Best of luck the rest of the way and go take state. I think it is great that the mountains big 3 are playing each other. Hopefully this series will continue past next season.

The ref also blew the blocked FG dead as a HC player wsd scooping it up to score.
You can see it plain as day too that the two critical fumbles were terrible officiating also as both time rb was laying on ground but regardless jc was better team

[Do-double-gg]

You said there is no evidence that Highlands O is better this year and I am not ready to say they are yet. But I will say this years WR's is they strongest I have ever seen and QB throws a very very good ball. The WR's go 9 deep with very little drop off from 1-9. They have height and speed and all 9 have alot of catches an TD's. they sub 4WR's each play. And I do feel JC's weakness against highlands is pass D.

Man I been saying stuff like this since I got on BGR about the mountain area teams need to work more on the pass game on both sides of the ball. Back in the day just about all Highschool teams would run 90% of the time but this is 2013. That three yards and a cloud of dust stuff only works IMO on another prodominantly run team. If a team can do both well or even if they are 90% pass and are good at it then a run team just can't put up the points quick enough to stay in the game especially when it is a playoff or champion caliber team. To me if you can run and throw well then you have a defense on edge all game trying to figure out what you will do next but if you do the same thing every time then a good defense can stack the box, pin their ears back and and shut you down or at least slow you enough that you get behind in the score with all the quick scores from the pass. Let me say this again if you can only run and the other team knows this and they have a good defense they can and will stop or slow you enough to win the game 90% of the time. If you did a study on every High school champion team in the last 10 years in this country, I would love to know how many of those teams were either all run, all pass or balanced. I would bet all I have that it would be a landslide in favor of balance, 2nd would be all pass and all run would be last. I do believe in doing what you are best at the most ,but if all you ever hardly work on is run and run D then that is all you will ever be the best at. Why not work hard and develop both. I would love to hear one good reason why anyone would not want to be a balanced team. The #1 excuse I ever get is "we just don't have the right kind of kids for that kind of ball right now". Ever notice that those teams are always one dimensional every year. I will give you 3 quesses and the first two don't count on why that is. It is because all the teams, coaches, kids and parents in this area think about is the run game. Every kid dreams of being the next star rb. Just about all they do in little league is run, middle school is run and so on and so on.

[Do-double-gg]

I can't count all the times in my 35 years of life of living in this area where a mountain team would dominate everything they touch in this area and then get against a good balanced or high powered pass team deep in the playoffs and get destroyed. At the end of the game the coach gets on camera and says, that pass game was just to much for us tonight or that team was just so balanced that our D just had no answer tonight. Then on the other side the coach says they have a good team and some good players but they are way to one dimensional. I think in this game you have a trickle down efect. New things will start in the NFL then college teams will start to do it and eventually high school teams will start to do it. But in this case it is like this
#1 NFL
#2 College
#3 High School
#4 Some day maybe the Mountain area
Why do you think so many teams in the NFL are predominately pass and they say the value of running backs has gone way down.

Some day some mountain team is going to start to get a good pass and pass D system going, get the right people in place to teach it and start finding the kids from a young age to get the job done and they will dominate this area like we have never seen a mountain team dominate and then maybe people will have to adapt or die. I think the closest we have had to it was Breathitt county in the 90's and ......................O wait they dominated and won some championships so go figure!

[Belfry0304]

Double G... let's look at year to year mountain personnel. You may have an athlete or two, but never enough to throw the ball around and do that spread stuff and outrun people effectively. Teams like us and JC have big heavies so we elect to control the clock and the TOP, and play physical football. If you can defend the pass decently and grind the clock out then you have a better chance.

Don't believe me, look at Pike Central, Somerset, Mason County, and some other teams that have tried to come out throwing the ball against Belfry lately. If you don't have the athletes, it's just not a good look. Even when Hazard won their title they ran the ball, they ran first against Mayfield and that's why they won it. Look at the mountain top 10, I don't know much about Pulaski County but I'll tell you one common theme about 1-3, we run! All about personnel and what gives you the best chance to win. 1 out of 6 years Belfry or JC might have good enough athletes to run a decent spread. 6/6 we have big heavy lineman that can get a push and control the clock... We must be doing SOMETHING right.

[eagles2011]

Lets get back to the game on the two runs that j c started on the one yard line were was Harlan county line backers ? Did they miss read the play r did jc just block that good

[Black Bear Cuz]

Johnson Central totally dominated this game physically and mentally and also from a coaching standpoint. I dont know if I have ever seen any team from Harlan County (Cumberland, Cawood, Evarts Harlan Ind or Lynch) that was a highly ranked team show up in a big game against a strong oponent and play the way HC played Friday night. The first 12 minutes and 41 seconds of the game will live in infamy! A running clock with 11:19 left in the 2nd quarter pretty much says it all......... JC is a great mountain team that I would like to think has a shot later this year when they meet up with Highlands, but that will be tough to put it mild. As for HC moving forward, we are an excellent running team with little to no passing game, but our biggest problem is our defense. Our D-Line is extremely uindersized and our defensive backield is an unorganized/undiciplined group. IMO changes on defense are going to have to be made, we have got to get more size on the D-Line and try to figure out where to put Cole Wilson where he will be more involved in every play than he is at DE. I hope our guys get back to work and build some confidence over the next few weeks before the playoffs begin! We still have a lot of good players... Lets go Bears, time to dig deep and show what kind of men you really are!

[Do-double-gg]

Belfry is a great program and you are doing a lot right but be honest with me.
Do you think mountain teams work on the pass game as much as they should or could especially pass defense? To me it starts at youth league on up. If you dont work hard on something from the early stages and find and develop the kids to do it then its not going to just magically appear at the high school level. I would bet that the teams that you mentioned who try to pass are still one dimensional in the lower leagues. I just believe that you need a plan B when plan A is not working or being shut down. I believe that if teams in this area would bring in quality people to teach pass O and D and just spend maybey half the time that we do on the run and start it while the kids are young then I think you would be amazed at what we could find that people say we dont have.

[EKUAlum05]

Belfry is a great program and you are doing a lot right but be honest with me.
Do you think mountain teams work on the pass game as much as they should or could especially pass defense? To me it starts at youth league on up. If you dont work hard on something from the early stages and find and develop the kids to do it then its not going to just magically appear at the high school level. I would bet that the teams that you mentioned who try to pass are still one dimensional in the lower leagues. I just believe that you need a plan B when plan A is not working or being shut down. I believe that if teams in this area would bring in quality people to teach pass O and D and just spend maybey half the time that we do on the run and start it while the kids are young then I think you would be amazed at what we could find that people say we dont have.

By and large I see your points and agree with their merit.

BUT


As a fan of the HS Game, a one dimensional offense is not as uncommon as you think among elite teams. Camden County and Grasyon, GA would dominate possibly every team in KY not named Trinity. Colerain, OH just did dominate Trinity. All these teams run the ball 90% of the time and typically pass as a luxury. The key is execution, personnel, and a defense that gets you the ball back.

At the end of the day these are 15-18 year old HS kids and kids will make mistakes, kids will drop passes, kids will forget to look off their receivers, and kids will try to force a ball into double coverage to the WR they trust. A run offense, when executed to perfection, has the least likelihood for turnovers, least likelihood for mental errors, and allows you to control the tempo. A passing game is certainly better catered to coming from behind and exposing weaknesses, but it also is more prone to tiring your defense and creating a frenetic pace. You have three quick possessions where the clock stops and come up empty thanks to a key dropped pass, an overthrown pass, and a holding call on 3rd and 6... meanwhile you go down 14-0 on defense and see your guys spend 3/4 of the First Half on the field.. is there really a huge difference in your ability to come back come the 4th Quarter? Sure you may be able to score points better, but you are less likely to get your stops now.

Where the EKY teams need help is making sure that the 10% of the time they do attempt a pass is enough of a threat that the opposing defense has to view it as a 50/50 play every down and honor it with their LB's and DB's. Belfry has a great passing QB and a dangerous WR this year, but until the Pirates prove that a hitch on 2nd and 6 has the same likelihood or hurting the opposing defense as a counter, they will continue to see 10 in the box,

[dns]

Lets get back to the game on the two runs that j c started on the one yard line were was Harlan county line backers ? Did they miss read the play r did jc just block that good

JC that good !!

[RunItUpTheGut]

Dodoublegg said it pretty well, and i agree with most of his thinking.
But as Belfry0304 said, its very difficult to find the personnell to execute a passing game.

Lets just say it for what it is, in EKY most high schools lack speed. The population here is about 99% white as well. You will never see a mountain school lineup and look like teams that are being shown on national television. This is not a race thing, so please dont go there, but it is a fact. Speed kills, and its usually where mountain teams get beat come playoff time.

[Diogenes]

Also, keep in mind...the teams that are beating us out in the playoffs, nobody else is beating either. They go on to win state championships. In the case of Highlands, often they're nationally ranked teams.

It's not so much that what we do is NOT working. We could beat the great majority of football teams in the state without throwing a single pass. It's just that the opponents we eventually run into in the playoffs yearly are really, really, really good, and I'm not sure it would matter if we stole Oregon's playbook and ran it against them. They have speed to burn, talent, and depth. It's not that we can't guard the pass; Woodford County and other teams have tried to throw it all over the field on us with very, very limited success. It's just that we can't guard THEM when they pass, and it turns out every year that nobody else can either, not even the teams from WKY with all their supposed athleticism.

Only one team can win the state championship. Just because you don't make it to the finals doesn't mean you aren't the second-best team in the class, and just because you didn't win a state title doesn't mean you didn't have a great year or a great team.*

(* = Unless you're Highlands.)

[Lynch47]

It was actually 4th and 4 from the 8 when the field goal was missed.

Johnson Central is a great team. They were clearly better and I hope they win the 4A state title.

They didn't make a bunch of tackles behind the line of scrimmage though, which was the point I was trying to clarify.

No feel good story at all. Just the facts.

http://harlandaily.com/news/sports/2535101/
:biglmao:
I guess we found out who wrote the article, according to the paper you last scored on the first string defense, but everyone that was there willfully admits that was not the case as the first string had been dismantled with many younger guys finishing up the 4th with a starter or two sprinkled in. Nice try though. :Clap: To say they didn't make a bunch of tackles behind the LOS is also crazy, Quade Ward ate Whitehead and several of the other backs up all night. Ward recorded 8 TFL by himself in what was probably the most complete game I have seen him play.

[honestjchsfan]

Belfry is a great program and you are doing a lot right but be honest with me.
Do you think mountain teams work on the pass game as much as they should or could especially pass defense? To me it starts at youth league on up. If you dont work hard on something from the early stages and find and develop the kids to do it then its not going to just magically appear at the high school level. I would bet that the teams that you mentioned who try to pass are still one dimensional in the lower leagues. I just believe that you need a plan B when plan A is not working or being shut down. I believe that if teams in this area would bring in quality people to teach pass O and D and just spend maybey half the time that we do on the run and start it while the kids are young then I think you would be amazed at what we could find that people say we dont have.

Louisville Central has had a bunch of D-1 talent the last few years! I don't think Belfry has had a single kid sign D-1 but they have still managed to play Louisville Central tough! I am not sure what Football you watch Bama has won 3 out of the last 4 National titles by running the football and playing good D! Bama had two 1000 yard rushers last year. Hal Mumme threw it all over the field while he was at UK but the best SEC record he could manage was 4-4. When a team like Highlands puts a bunch of WR's that run 4.5 and JC has Zero DB's that run 4.5 who is going to win? Give Haywood ONE PLAYER who is a 4.4 guy and he will win you a title! A real 4.4 forty yard dash translates 99% of the time into a sub 11 second 100 meter dash, take a look at the State track and field results and tell me how many sub 11 seconds 100's you find coming out of Eastern KY. I can think of only 1 from JC and that kid transferred in from down South and was not much of a football player. I can remember only a handful form Eastern KY. I remember one from Bell Co and he was part of one of there title teams. Pikeville in the 80's had Bobby Deramus and Chris Baily(?) I saw both of them run SUB 11 seconds. I am not sure the Jones kid from Belfry ran track but I would bet you he could run sub 11! Funny how those State Football title follow those Sub 11 Second guys around??? Ashland won a title in the early 90's and they had a FREAK of nature dude that was big as ahouse and ran 10.8 !

[HDE]

http://harlandaily.com/news/sports/2535101/
:biglmao:
I guess we found out who wrote the article, according to the paper you last scored on the first string defense, but everyone that was there willfully admits that was not the case as the first string had been dismantled with many younger guys finishing up the 4th with a starter or two sprinkled in. Nice try though. :Clap: To say they didn't make a bunch of tackles behind the LOS is also crazy, Quade Ward ate Whitehead and several of the other backs up all night. Ward recorded 8 TFL by himself in what was probably the most complete game I have seen him play.

Ward was very good. He may have hit him behind the line of scrimmage but Carson didn't have any runs for negative yardage. The quarterback was tackled once for a 2-yard loss in the first quarter. I have every play if you need some help with your memory.
Nice try at what? I didn't write that story.

[sstack]

Louisville Central has had a bunch of D-1 talent the last few years! I don't think Belfry has had a single kid sign D-1 but they have still managed to play Louisville Central tough! I am not sure what Football you watch Bama has won 3 out of the last 4 National titles by running the football and playing good D! Bama had two 1000 yard rushers last year. Hal Mumme threw it all over the field while he was at UK but the best SEC record he could manage was 4-4. When a team like Highlands puts a bunch of WR's that run 4.5 and JC has Zero DB's that run 4.5 who is going to win? Give Haywood ONE PLAYER who is a 4.4 guy and he will win you a title! A real 4.4 forty yard dash translates 99% of the time into a sub 11 second 100 meter dash, take a look at the State track and field results and tell me how many sub 11 seconds 100's you find coming out of Eastern KY. I can think of only 1 from JC and that kid transferred in from down South and was not much of a football player. I can remember only a handful form Eastern KY. I remember one from Bell Co and he was part of one of there title teams. Pikeville in the 80's had Bobby Deramus and Chris Baily(?) I saw both of them run SUB 11 seconds. I am not sure the Jones kid from Belfry ran track but I would bet you he could run sub 11! Funny how those State Football title follow those Sub 11 Second guys around??? Ashland won a title in the early 90's and they had a FREAK of nature dude that was big as ahouse and ran 10.8 !

Check the state records each year and you will be lucky to find 3-4 sub 11 runners every year in the entire state. There is not many of those guys no matter where you go in the state. And I would say Highlands is lucky to have one guy a year that is a 4.4 or 4.5 guy in the 40. They have good over all team speed but not as fast as you are saying. This year I would say Green is the only 4.4 guy on the team ( he was state champion in 400 meters in sub 50, have to be able to fly to go sub 50).

[sstack]

Dodoublegg said it pretty well, and i agree with most of his thinking.
But as Belfry0304 said, its very difficult to find the personnell to execute a passing game.

Lets just say it for what it is, in EKY most high schools lack speed. The population here is about 99% white as well. You will never see a mountain school lineup and look like teams that are being shown on national television. This is not a race thing, so please dont go there, but it is a fact. Speed kills, and its usually where mountain teams get beat come playoff time.

Do not use that as an excuse, Highlands has been 100% white population until last 5-8 years and is still probably 96-97%.

[EKUAlum05]

Do not use that as an excuse, Highlands has been 100% white population until last 5-8 years and is still probably 96-97%.

I see what you are both saying, but let's be blunt... Highlands is more the exception rather than the rule.

IMHO, what separates Highlands and has allowed their success begins and ends with Highlands being an elite "program" from top down and having that consistency for decades. Success breeds success. Coaching stability to the max,, even when a great coach like Duffy is no longer there they hired the right guy to replace him who didn't try to tear the whole program down and re-build it all over again. Amazing feeder system, community support, administrative support, and conditioning programs for years. Success sending kids to play collegiate football which has caused parents specifically to send their kids to Highlands and even move there pre-Freshman year (by no means is the a "recruiting" remark.. it is a compliment). Highlands has been good for decades and now you see countless 2nd generation players who have known only success from their father down.

Highlands consistency in all these things is unmatched, even by X and Trinity who dont have the luxury of a true feeder system, and this consistency from top to bottom sets Highlands apart from other "elite"programs even with the absence of true physical specimens and athletes.

Look at the top programs in EKY and a couple more examples in comparison:

Bell County- Success began with Dudley Hilton..his first retirement they had a lull..he returns and they enjoy perhaps their best run ever... he is gone again and once again they are backsliding.

Belfry- Coaching stability has been there, but feeder system and the conditioning programs have not always been elite. No surprise that Belfry has elevated their program to new heights as a result of Middle School Consolidation, better facilities, and more access to outside influences for strength and conditioning. Belfry is also seeing more 2nd generation players who have known only success. Fairly high clip of people who re-locate Pre-HS to bring their kids up through belfry's feeder system

Rockcastle County/Harlan County- Success begins and ends with Tom Larkey. Rockcastle emerged as a state contender prior to his departure, they have drastically trended down as Harlan County's program has ascended.

Johnson Central- Was one of the weakest programs in EKY pre-Matney.. Now potentially the best team year-in-year-out. Revitalized feeder system is one of the best in the state. Drastically improved strength and conditioning programs. Still lack those 2nd generation players and the Eagles are just starting to see kids who have literally grew up through their entire program from Pee Wee to Senior in HS. More and more people moving in Pre-High School from surrounding areas.

Pikeville- Under Hilliard Howard was a 1A Blue Blood. Howard retires and they take a step back. Two coaching hires of guys who basically try to reconstruct the entire program their way that fails. The HS team and Feeder System is set back a full decade before the stability of McNamee has them returning to prominence.

Pulaski Southwestern- Not an elite program, but an interesting example. Southwestern has possibly the best Middle School program in the State. Southwestern has sent a surprising number of kids to play D-1 ball. Southwestern has not had the coaching stability or community support and it has basically translated to mediocre at best performance at the HS level.

To bring it together,,athletes certainly help, but a true program can excel without athletes. Paducah Tilghman is arguably one of the state's 2 or 3 most athletic teams year in and year out, but their success has been underwhelming by and large. If athletes alone ruled KY HS Football then Louisville Western would be an elite program. For these EKY teams to catch up it simply requires continued stability, parents willing to go the extra mile in developmental camps, and a program that is constantly evolving itself to push ahead. Dale Mueller is an innovator and starts the trends and uses a machine of a program to give him the kids to mold how he wants..that is why Highlands transcends.

[Black Bear Cuz]

Back to HC moving forward, I believe that Zack Caldwell and William Banks are going to have to be used on both sides of the ball. These guys are are two biggest and best lineman and we need them desparately on the defensive side of the ball, then we can move Cole Wilson to a spot where he can have a bigger impact.... Highlands and Trinity may have enough great lineman to have only one way guys play on their lines, UNFORTUNATELY we are not as fortunate as those programs are. IMO our best plyers have got to play both ways if we expect to be competitive with the top teams in 5A. I know that stamina in the 2nd half may be an issue, but if the JC game taught us anything we see that a game can be over by halftime!

[Belfry0304]

I disagree about the lower leagues because both Johnson County & Belfry Middle are winning big (brought home two state middle school championship respectively) and playing teams that.. you guessed it, throw the ball. Must be playing pretty good pass D.

But even better run D... and I think it's easier to stop the passing attack than the run

[Demarcus ware]

Back to HC moving forward, I believe that Zack Caldwell and William Banks are going to have to be used on both sides of the ball. These guys are are two biggest and best lineman and we need them desparately on the defensive side of the ball, then we can move Cole Wilson to a spot where he can have a bigger impact.... Highlands and Trinity may have enough great lineman to have only one way guys play on their lines, UNFORTUNATELY we are not as fortunate as those programs are. IMO our best plyers have got to play both ways if we expect to be competitive with the top teams in 5A. I know that stamina in the 2nd half may be an issue, but if the JC game taught us anything we see that a game can be over by halftime!

I was thinking about this last night, we just need some beef on the D-line period. At least swap some players out to try and keep the fatigue down as best as we can. I'm not doubting Coach Larkey or Coach Canady by any means, it's just my opinion..

[Black Bear Cuz]

[quote=Belfry0304]I disagree about the lower leagues because both Johnson County & Belfry Middle are winning big (brought home two state middle school championship respectively) and playing teams that.. you guessed it, throw the ball. Must be playing pretty good pass D.

But even better run D... and I think it's easier to stop the passing attack than the run[ How bout you fellas open up a new thread about the issues you are discussing about the younger leagues etc...

[EKUAlum05]

I was thinking about this last night, we just need some beef on the D-line period. At least swap some players out to try and keep the fatigue down as best as we can. I'm not doubting Coach Larkey or Coach Canady by any means, it's just my opinion..

Having a separate unit is critical...but the Belfry team that gave HC's running game fits and has been great against the run the past decade has made their killing by using small/quick linemen on 1st Down thru 3rd Down, with specific "gap plugging" bigger boys to use only on obvious run situations or the goalline.

Belfry moved away from the big linemen around 2003 in response to the emergence of the spread offense and then continued to stick with it after Russell's Wing T gave them fits for a few years when the bigger linemen could not get down the line fast enough. Belfry has went from a traditional 5-2 with 5 down linemen every play, to sort of a hybrid of the 5-2 and 3-4 where against spread teams and obvious passing downs Belfry stands up their DE's who are more OLB's.

The best Belfry defenses in this time have a stocky and agrressive noseguard, two small but lightning quick DT's, two tall and strong DE's, one quick LB who is well suited for pass defense, one stronger LB who is better suited for run support.. then bringing a monstrous DT off the bench for run defense and bringing a 3rd quick linemen at DE for additional coverage in the flat.

[Lynch47]

Ward was very good. He may have hit him behind the line of scrimmage but Carson didn't have any runs for negative yardage. The quarterback was tackled once for a 2-yard loss in the first quarter. I have every play if you need some help with your memory.
Nice try at what? I didn't write that story.

Oh really? Maybe you need help with yours so hopefully this will refresh your memory.



These are just two and there are several more from Mr. Ward. And the "Filthy Animal" defense got shampooed and conditioned, then rinsed off with the garden hose, as shown by Mr. Belcher. Best of luck the rest of the year.

[HDE]

I had the one with the quarterback.
Show me the other seven. I could have missed them, like you getting confused about the field goal being inside the 5 and the fourth and one when it was really fourth and four. Like I said before, I could have missed something out of 40 offensive plays.

[HDE]

OK. I found that one. That was first and 10 from the HC 20 with 2:30 left in the first quarter. If you notice, the officials placed the ball back between the 19 and 20 and the scoreboard had 2 and 10. That's one of the two I had for no gain. I'll have to admit though that HCHS got a good spot on that one. Whitehead had 8 yards to the 28 on the next carry and then Massey went 9 yards to the 37. Whitehead went 5 yards on the next play and then Auxier recovered a fumble on the next one.
You don't have anything else or you would have put it on there.

[Gummie Bear]

Lynch - can you post the clip of the the first two fumbles on here like you did of those last plays. Id like to rewatch them because in real life they seemed like they were down forever and the JC player would just grab it off the ground after we were down because refs blew whistle so late or not at all in most cases for both teams. Id also like to hear the commentater takes on those two plays.

[Emmit Brown]

I had the one with the quarterback.
Show me the other seven. I could have missed them, like you getting confused about the field goal being inside the 5 and the fourth and one when it was really fourth and four. Like I said before, I could have missed something out of 40 offensive plays.

Look, you two could go on forever like the Hatfield's and McCoy's. However, all things (good or bad) come to an end. You guys (Harlan Co) have bigger fish to fry and hopefully you all do well. I want to see you all make it to Bowling Green, and with the caliber of players you have, you could. As for this game, it's over and has been for a while now. I'm sure Coach Larkey and his staff have moved on as well as the kids. Let it go...best of luck the rest of the way. See you next year.

[RunItUpTheGut]

Do not use that as an excuse, Highlands has been 100% white population until last 5-8 years and is still probably 96-97%.

How often has Highlands had the talent though? As it has always appeared to me and everyone else, Highlands has been the exception to the rule. Finding and building white guys into speedsters. I dont see it happening anywhere else though. Call is for what it is, theres a big talent gap when it comes to speed in this state.