[Stlcardsfan]

Top 25

1. Ballard (10-3)

2. Trinity (10-3)

3. Bullitt East (13-3)

4. Henry Clay (13-2)

4. Scott County (10-4)

6. Pleasure Ridge Park (12-4)

6. Fairdale (8-4)

8. John Hardin (11-3)

9. Madison Central (12-3)

10. Covington Catholic (13-1)

11. Holmes (16-0)

12. Newport Central Catholic (12-1)

13. Butler (11-4)

13. Paul Laurence Dunbar (10-5)

15. Pulaski County (12-3)

16. Montgomery County (14-3)

17. Hopkinsville (11-4)

18. Male (11-4)

19. St. Xavier (10-5)

20. Bishop Brossart (12-2)

21. Wayne County (14-3)

22. Perry County Central (10-3)

23. Henderson County (12-2)

24. Hazard (14-2)

24. Collins (9-3)

24. Lafayette (7-5)

24. Simon Kenton (9-5)

Just awful IMO. Don't think I'll look at them again.

[ekff]

^ yeah I gave up on Cantrell already this season...

Again, no love for Madison Central!! MC is top 5

[Stlcardsfan]

And obviously I'm gonna whine no KCC. But putting PCC and Hazard in there? What has KCC done to slide behind them????

[Harry Rex Vonner]

CovCath, Holmes, and NCC at 10, 11, 12 is probably about right. I don't know that Brossart belongs at 22 or SK at 25 but we who are up north will take it. With the way Trinity beat up on NCC, I'd think there are few, if any, better than the Shamrocks.

[ekff]

Someone that hasn't seen a game all year could get on KHSAA and do a better ranking than this...

[rojas]

And obviously I'm gonna whine no KCC. But putting PCC and Hazard in there? What has KCC done to slide behind them????

KCC may very well be a top 25 team. However, you have to remember that these are computer rankings. It helps a team to move up the rankings to play well against other highly ranked teams. Knott County Central's best game has been a close loss to Henry Clay and an 8 point win over Hazard. The rest of their schedule is loaded up with teams like Jenkins (twice), June Buchanan, Cordia (twice), etc. These will get you a gaudy won/loss record but will not move you up in computer rankings.

[Warthog]

They absolutely smoked Simon Kenton in the Republic Bank and they are 24

[rojas]

They absolutely smoked Simon Kenton in the Republic Bank and they are 24

That was a good win but Simon Kenton has also lost the likes of Grant County and Conner. Scott County beat them by 38. I don't see many big games to come on the Knott Co Central schedule.

[Warthog]

That was a good win but Simon Kenton has also lost the likes of Grant County and Conner. Scott County beat them by 38. I don't see many big games to come on the Knott Co Central schedule.

All I am saying is based on head to head, no way Simon Kenton should be 24 and Kcc not ranked

[Downtown10]

KCC may very well be a top 25 team. However, you have to remember that these are computer rankings. It helps a team to move up the rankings to play well against other highly ranked teams. Knott County Central's best game has been a close loss to Henry Clay and an 8 point win over Hazard. The rest of their schedule is loaded up with teams like Jenkins (twice), June Buchanan, Cordia (twice), etc. These will get you a gaudy won/loss record but will not move you up in computer rankings.

Its hard not to play those teams if there in your district.
But I get what your sayin...

[KY Headhunter]

They absolutely smoked Simon Kenton in the Republic Bank and they are 24

The same Simon Kenton team that handled PCC easily

[UK1fan]

Simon Kenton was missing 3 of their best players but now have 2 of them back. When they are making their shots nobody can beat them.

[new guy]

KCC may very well be a top 25 team. However, you have to remember that these are computer rankings. It helps a team to move up the rankings to play well against other highly ranked teams. Knott County Central's best game has been a close loss to Henry Clay and an 8 point win over Hazard. The rest of their schedule is loaded up with teams like Jenkins (twice), June Buchanan, Cordia (twice), etc. These will get you a gaudy won/loss record but will not move you up in computer rankings.

The reason Knott Central plays Jenkins, Cordia and June Buchanan twice is
that they are in a district that seeds and they are required to play them. Dave Cantralls rankings have always favored teams from Louisville and Central Kentucky and it favors teams that play hard schedules even if they lose those games. Dave Cantrall lives in Northern Ky and does not even have anything to do with sports for a living but just does this as a hobby. I would think the USA today poll is probably a more accurate one.

[Brother Cecil]

The same Simon Kenton team that handled PCC easily

I don't see how you say handled easily. This was an overtime game. Peace be among us. Brother Cecil.

[Mister B]

I have never been a fan of these rankings but besides MC I think the top 10 is close. With the exception of a few teams I think most belong because of the competition they have played. I really don't see why the KCC people have an argument because they have'nt played anybody besides HC. Besides SK and Brossart who else doesn't belong? Brossart is better than what people think, extremly well coached team you will see this in the ALL A Classic.

[Stlcardsfan]

I have never been a fan of these rankings but besides MC I think the top 10 is close. With the exception of a few teams I think most belong because of the competition they have played. I really don't see why the KCC people have an argument because they have'nt played anybody besides HC. Besides SK and Brossart who else doesn't belong? Brossart is better than what people think, extremly well coached team you will see this in the ALL A Classic.

Sorry, here is my argument. PCC is there, Hazard is there. Don't see any way this list can include them and no KCC. KCC should be on there and ahead of them both, right now.

[hitter]

If you we're at the knott, hazard game you would know that the refs made to terrible calls that gave knott the game. And even after those two horrendous calls hazard still took the game to overtime. I agree that knott should be in the top 25 but they can play tougher teams that aren't in their district.

[Stlcardsfan]

If you we're at the knott, hazard game you would know that the refs made to terrible calls that gave knott the game. And even after those two horrendous calls hazard still took the game to overtime. I agree that knott should be in the top 25 but they can play tougher teams that aren't in their district.

Refs at that game mean nothing on this topic, tired of hearing about it. When you committ to the Republic Bank Classic, Mtn Classic, All A classic and your district seeds there is very little wiggle room on the schedule and they played excellent competition at the Republic Bank Classic and did quite well. Their schedule is comparable to Hazard and Perry and they have better wins IMO. Please don't give me that ridiculous argument.

[Mister B]

Refs at that game mean nothing on this topic, tired of hearing about it. When you committ to the Republic Bank Classic, Mtn Classic, All A classic and your district seeds there is very little wiggle room on the schedule and they played excellent competition at the Republic Bank Classic and did quite well. Their schedule is comparable to Hazard and Perry and they have better wins IMO. Please don't give me that ridiculous argument.

I attended Hazard and KCC game and you will not see another game with this many fouls called very often much less a team that makes 41 freethrows in a row. KCC is not playing very well and only because of a weak bracket may make the finals and thats it. KCC schedule may compare favorably to Hazard's but gimme a break they are not close too PCC. No road games vs quality opponents only neutral floor games. Lets see how they do in WYMT classic before you anoint them as the best team in the mountains.

[ballboy]

Knott County strength of schedule hurts them on here, reason paris,allen cent, magoffin county these teams kill your strength of schedule also jenkins,jbs,cordia i know they have to play these teams but if you think your going to have a good team playing these non district teams like these kill you in the ratings, The reason perry up there is their schedule they dont play leslie,buckhorn, the teams you play outside the region helps your ratings, Thats why perry is ahead of hazard because their strength of schedule. know does that mean perry better than hazard NO. but by years end cantrell is very close. hes close every year by the state rankings. their going to be upsets.

[Downtown10]

:haters:

[hop24]

Once again SK shot 27% against KCC. Usually a much better shooting team. Lots of open shots missed and layups to boot. SK wil show how good they are down the road.They have a nice schedule remaining. Not trying to discredit KCC in the least. Think they are and will be in the top 25 for a while with the young guys they have. Exciting team to watch.

[ekff]

I don't care what anyone says these rankings are a joke, yes u all want to talk about the 14th but this ain't a 14th ranking, this is a state rankings... I know everyone in the 14th wants to think they invention basketball but Knott Central is a top 10 or 15 team right now... Ballboy wanna talk about schedule, Knott beat Simon Keaton!! Knott should be ahead of Perry and Hazard right now

John Hardin, PRP, Fairdale is not top 10...

And I don't care what anyone says there ain't 8 teams in the state better than Madison Central...

[Pikeville]

Rankings mean nothing, just win games.

Don't worry what someone thinks about you or your team.

[hop24]

Rankings mean nothing, just win games.

Don't worry what someone thinks about you or your team.

^Amen...Late Febuary and March is all that matters.

[HUB]

Knott County strength of schedule hurts them on here, reason paris,allen cent, magoffin county these teams kill your strength of schedule also jenkins,jbs,cordia i know they have to play these teams but if you think your going to have a good team playing these non district teams like these kill you in the ratings, The reason perry up there is their schedule they dont play leslie,buckhorn, the teams you play outside the region helps your ratings, Thats why perry is ahead of hazard because their strength of schedule. know does that mean perry better than hazard NO. but by years end cantrell is very close. hes close every year by the state rankings. their going to be upsets.

PCC has opted not to play Buckhorn for a couple of years. Don't think it was for fear of the Cantrell rating, either.

For the record, Cantrell's end of regular season ratings for 2011-12 had PCC 6th in the state and Buckhorn 6th in the region.

[Brother Cecil]

Knott played very well in the Republic Bank Classic. After their return to EKY not so well. Sense a little jealousy on their team after all the hoopla over the 62 point game and all the resulting publicity. Should they be in the top twenty five absolutely. To start attacking some teams on here because of their inclusion seems lowdown. The Cantrall ratings seem to get better as the season goes on. He does not see all these teams and yes strength of schedule does play a big part in his ratings. In the end they are just that ratings and make for a good topic for discussion. A lot will be settled this week in the WYMT. Their tournament is usually well officiated because they demand high standards. The weather will be good so come out and enjoy it. Good luck to all teams. Peace be among us. Brother Cecil.

[Brother Cecil]

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PCC has opted not to play Buckhorn for a couple of years. Don't think it was for fear of the Cantrell rating, either.

For the record, Cantrell's end of regular season ratings for 2011-12 had PCC 6th in the state and Buckhorn 6th in the region.

Upsets do happen. Buckhorn had a very good team. Hatcher stopped playing Buckhorn after some incidents in the district tournament two years ago. Perry was up about twenty late in the game and a couple of Buckhorn players tried to start a fight which would have caused some of Perry's players to be ineligible for the district tournament final. Hatcher got mad and cancelled their regular season games. Hopefully they will get to play this year in the tournament and a new coach will reinstate their regular season games. The truth will stand when all else falls. Brother Cecil.

[HUB]

Upsets do happen. Buckhorn had a very good team. Hatcher stopped playing Buckhorn after some incidents in the district tournament two years ago. Perry was up about twenty late in the game and a couple of Buckhorn players tried to start a fight which would have caused some of Perry's players to be ineligible for the district tournament final. Hatcher got mad and cancelled their regular season games. Hopefully they will get to play this year in the tournament and a new coach will reinstate their regular season games. The truth will stand when all else falls. Brother Cecil.

Hatcher cancelled the games because Buckhorn wouldn't agree to seeding the district.

[Brother Cecil]

Hatcher cancelled the games because Buckhorn wouldn't agree to seeding the district.

Wrong. The superintendent could have required Buckhorn to vote for seeding. Not their decision. Maybe they will meet in the district this year. The truth will stand when all else falls. Brother Cecil.