[KentuckyHillBilly5321]

What would be your base offense(s)as in formations/scheme):

What would be your base defense(s): (as in alignment/scheme):

I usually answer my own questions here, but on this one--I am going to wait for a couple posts before I answer. . . .

[ShakeandBake]

my Offense would be mostly the wishbone if i had good running backs or 4 spot if i had good hands.

and my base defense would be a 5-2 with a monster because it is an agressive defense

[Batpuff]

Spread Offense with belly read, alot of shotgun, running out the gun about 65% of the time to open the pass up about like WVU does there

Def would run 4-3 depending on the team some dime and Nickle, Blitz all the time from everywhere no matter what Def that is in there.

[Tomcat68]

Wishbone on offense

4-4 defense with outside backers being monsters

[KentuckyHillBilly5321]

Okay, here is my start:

My base offensive formation would be Divide (Gun) Twins (Open--in other words Split). This is one b$%@ of a formation to defense--regardless of the defensive alignment. Plus, you have the passing game built in, and the counter (HB and QB). You can also run QB Iso's (which is a great change up to the counter). Very tough for zone (you can run everywhere), and very tough for man or disguised coverage (unless you have 11 all state athletes on the field.

Defensively: 35 pressure (naturally--if you have the speed to run it). Again, you can disguise in and out of the 53 with ease. You have numerous pressure packages (without giving up your pass coverages). You can play combo man/zone, spy, etc. But the real beauty is that it is so uncommon, kids have a hard time picking up their assignments.

I am sure that you guys will spur me to some more ideas . .

[KentuckyHillBilly5321]

Bump??

Anyone else have any dream offenses/defenses that they would like to install?

[BC75]

on offense i would try to keep it pretty even with passing and running the football with gun and i formations

my defense would be a 5-3 or a 4-3 depending on the team we played

[biggun.7.06]

Offense - Wishbone if i had three good backs if not I formation.
Defense - 3-4 zone

[wildman_06]

Offense- Spread Option and Wishbone
Defense- Mostly 5-2 Rover, some 3-5-3, some 4-2-5,

[that's my job]

offense- i-formation
defense- 52

[Effort]

Good topic. I think it today's game if one can execute similar blocking schemes for a variety of plays (trust me it can be done) then i would want to have balance. If your players can run and throw just enough to make the defense honor the pass then you can Run Wild.

Defense is dependent on the kids your area typically produces. If you have lots of speed probably the 4-4; lots of lineman then mayne a 50 front.

[vince]

offense.wing t-buck sweep, trap, waggle, crisscross trap, belly and bootleg.wing t belly is one of the best plays in football still.
defense- pressure d(kenny roark style), kids love it-attack, attack, 7 man front
man up , dont sit back and wait.run the same d as middlesboro.

[KentuckyHillBilly5321]

offense.wing t-buck sweep, trap, waggle, crisscross trap, belly and bootleg.wing t belly is one of the best plays in football still.
defense- pressure d(kenny roark style), kids love it-attack, attack, 7 man front
man up , dont sit back and wait.run the same d as middlesboro.

Finally something we agree on!

I love the Belly series. (Especially belly 2nd man).

[ROETHLISBERGER]

If i was a coach id run a wishbone formation and let everybody block and give it to my HB and take it to the house but its not as easy as it seems like

[Smokey]

I would have to say I would play to my players...pro style. Balanced, but leaning towards your strengths. If you have tough tight ends, dont run 5 wide, if you have good wide outs, spread em....you know what I mean. I love the options you have with the shotgun w/1 or 2 backs though. I would run that a lot of the time I think.

Defensively, it is a similar concept. I like an even front if you have the personnel. But, I really like that diguised 53 you said Hillbilly. Thats quite a defense. With the right kids, you could win like the Bears did with a similar defensive scheme.

[Dont Take It Away!]

Its according to my players atributes but i would like to have a 5 wide team because the dbs in high school cant react to good recievers. oN DEFENSE I WOULd stick with a 44

[PantherPride68]

"The Bone" or Power I on "O" and Either a 5-2 or 3-4 on "D" if my D-Line was better than my linbacking corps its the 5-2 if Linebackers are good and we were deep at that postion its the 3-4. My Steelers are proving that with right personal (which is how any defense is successful) that the 3-4 can stop the run or the pass. I like the 4-4 but its too prone to give up the deep ball where the DBs are cheated up so much for run support.

[TidesHoss32]

if i had the talent to do it with, id run the wishbone on "O", and use a 3-4 defense bringing it from everywhere and anywhere. Im all about ball control, so screw throwing the ball, lol, give me a 6'2, 215 lb quarterback with some speed! Although several years ago, Fleming Neon ran the sidesaddle, with Jack Hall coaching and when they got into the flow, it was very tough to stop. So maybe the sidesaddle to throw people off.

[KentuckyHillBilly5321]

Hoss--

What is the side saddle?

[OU_Bruiser]

lets just make this simple if i were a coach i would have the worst team ever i mean not as bad as david the school is a basketball tho....lol

[TidesHoss32]

lol, the sidesaddle wing-T, the quarterback wouldnt line up directly behind the center. He (the qb) lines up facing either side of the crowd. As a def. end (which is what i played) it looks like a dream kill shot every play, but as soon as the ball is snapped, a guard pulls just about every play, the quarterback is a lead blocker (thats why most qb's ina sidesaddle are nothing more than blocking backs), and then you face THE lead blocker. Throwing the ball is unheard of basically. I talked to one of their players after Coach Hall left Neon and he told me they had three passing plays in the entire playbook. To sit here and explain how it runs, i couldnt tell you, but it was fun to watch in the stands and a nightmare to play against. Half the time, the qb didnt even take the snap.

[wildman_06]

Wing-T isn't a bad offensive series with 2 guards pulling. Alot of misdirection!!!

[former_raider80]

Spread Offense with belly read, alot of shotgun, running out the gun about 65% of the time to open the pass up about like WVU does there

Def would run 4-3 depending on the team some dime and Nickle, Blitz all the time from everywhere no matter what Def that is in there.

I agree that offense would be hard to stop for any team and i think the 4-3 defense is the best to stop any offense.....

[Matney's Prodigey]

In Eastern Kentucky High School Football I would run the bone as a base offense, but also utilize the wing-t formations against bear defenses. My defense would be a 5-2 lined up in a cover 2 as much as I could.

An interesting fact is that in the AAA,AA, & A State Championships this year every team opened the game in a 5-2 defense except one. All the winners opened the game in a 5-2. Now some did not finish that way, but they all started that way. (Bowling Green was the exception)

[former_raider80]

I think if eastern kentucky teams would run a shotgun type offense i think it would be the hardest to defend, becasue most teams in eastern kentucky are taught to just stop the run and thats it...so if a team would run a shotgun and had the players to i think that offense would be good to use....

[Matney's Prodigey]

I think if eastern kentucky teams would run a shotgun type offense i think it would be the hardest to defend, becasue most teams in eastern kentucky are taught to just stop the run and thats it...so if a team would run a shotgun and had the players to i think that offense would be good to use....

That is true, but how many teams in Eastern Kentucky are going to have the players to do that year in year out? Even Breathitt Co. had to go to a more ball control ground oriented offense this year. I think it is alot easier to find 6 hard nosed football players than it is to find 4 or 5 athletes that can compete at a level capable of winning you a state title. That is just my opinion tho.

[former_raider80]

That is true, but how many teams in Eastern Kentucky are going to have the players to do that year in year out? Even Breathitt Co. had to go to a more ball control ground oriented offense this year. I think it is alot easier to find 6 hard nosed football players than it is to find 4 or 5 athletes that can compete at a level capable of winning you a state title. That is just my opinion tho.

I agree but if a team could do what i said they would pretty good lol............

[Degree]

on def i would have a 4-4 and on offense have a run then pass team

[UCbulldog4life]

My O would be mainy wishbone, but i would have some wing T in with it..I like counters and sweeps out of the T....

My D would be the Old Fashion 353 Gap Control (Coach Ross ran this D and it was very succesful) You can do so much stuff out of this D..

[PantherPride68]

I think if eastern kentucky teams would run a shotgun type offense i think it would be the hardest to defend, becasue most teams in eastern kentucky are taught to just stop the run and thats it...so if a team would run a shotgun and had the players to i think that offense would be good to use....

What do you think Breathitt has done all these years?