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Pulaski County, Somerset, and Southwestern will all face off on the gridiron
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PC, SHS, & SW Will All Face Off On The Gridiron Beginning In 2013

Thursday, August 16, 2012 Email article | Print article

Pulaski County, Somerset, and Southwestern will all face off on the gridiron beginning next season with a rotation of bowl games.
In week 0, the Jumpers will host the Maroons in The Ray Correll Bowl. A few weeks later, in week 2 of the season, the Warriors will tangle with Jumpers at Southwestern in the Don Marshall Bowl.
In 2014 games will flip flop as well the location of the Don Marshall Bowl.

http://www.lake1023.com/pages/locsports....e=10351147
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http://www.lake1023.com/pages/locsports....e=10351147

Hopefully this link will work
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Don't know if i'm more excited for the games or that we'll not have to hear how Somerset is afraid to play and the county schools are greedy
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About time Somerset grew a pair and stepped off the Briar Patch. First time in over a decade (2002?) if I'm not mistaken.
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Wildcat18 Wrote:About time Somerset grew a pair and stepped off the Briar Patch. First time in over a decade (2002?) if I'm not mistaken.

Yup, those bunnies are scared to death of the county outside of the gates of Clarke Field. Both games are meaningless, always were and always will be. Far to much emphasis placed on a game that holds zero standing come playoff time. I'm far more interested in seeing the Jumpers in district action against Danville, LCA, and Middlesboro. Hopefully the Jumpers will take care of business and do what is necessary to appease the administration during this two year run and get out of this contract.
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JumperPride1 Wrote:Yup, those bunnies are scared to death of the county outside of the gates of Clarke Field. Both games are meaningless, always were and always will be. Far to much emphasis placed on a game that holds zero standing come playoff time. I'm far more interested in seeing the Jumpers in district action against Danville, LCA, and Middlesboro. Hopefully the Jumpers will take care of business and do what is necessary to appease the administration during this two year run and get out of this contract.

Sure looks like it. You can only play so many district games before you have to fill out the rest of the schedule with meaningless games. You have to pad the schedule, so why not choose some cross-town rivals and help out the town/community in general? Stay local and still have a "road" game, instead of checking out the long haul scenery only 3 times like this season. Makes sense to me.
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Wildcat18 Wrote:Sure looks like it. You can only play so many district games before you have to fill out the rest of the schedule with meaningless games. You have to pad the schedule, so why not choose some cross-town rivals and help out the town/community in general? Stay local and still have a "road" game, instead of checking out the long haul scenery only 3 times like this season. Makes sense to me.
I guess only 4 home games and the 6 road games last season was our way of hiding in the briar patch too... Pulaski & SW both 5A and Somerset just a 2A... sounds about fair to me...
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It's fine wildcat18. The jumpers will take your contract money, and the mythical (oh so coveted) county championship. We were so scared to play the county schools the past couple years that we scheduled Breathitt co., Hazard, both the jessamines in a one-and-one, Whitley, Perry Central, and Glasgow just to keep from playing mighty warrior nation and the maroons. The county made a great deal of money from the Ray Correl Bowl, this should have been a non-issue, but for some reason Hines wants to validate his season by playing a 2a school every year...
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it 11 on 11 ,in 1a to 6a,right.
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Shondue Wrote:I guess only 4 home games and the 6 road games last season was our way of hiding in the briar patch too... Pulaski & SW both 5A and Somerset just a 2A... sounds about fair to me...

That is either fear or an excuse. Whichever one you want to call it is fine. It's not like we're playing 11 vs 7 here because of the class of the school. You put your pants on one leg at a time just like the rest of us. We sweat and our blood is red just like everyone else.
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Wildcat18 Wrote:About time Somerset grew a pair and stepped off the Briar Patch. First time in over a decade (2002?) if I'm not mistaken.


Careful what you wish for...what is Somerset's record against the Marlin's all-time? I believe it is somewhere around 12 or 13 and 6, including the last 2. One of those two was against Pulaski's only regional champion. And don't give me the home field advantage stuff. That 1/2 mile road trip doesn't take that much out of you.

As for the deal I'm fine with it as long as Somerset gets 1/3 of the gate from the Don Marshall Bowl like Pulaski and Southwestern get from the Correll Bowl. Also I know Coach Lucas didn't want to play the County schools back to back weeks. I can understand not wanting to play two emotionally charged rivalry games back to back. By having one in week zero and one in week two it breaks it up a little bit and allows the coaches to focus on getting the team ready for the district games. The district and playoffs results are all that really matter. I'd rather have another local game than have to drive to Hazard again anyway. Somerset has their program at a point where it is a top 5 team each year. As long as the games with the local schools don't interfere with their goal of winning a state championship then I'm all for playing them. If they get to be counterproductive to that goal because of the emphasis put on the games by the players and community then I'd rather see neither game played. Ultimately Somerset wants to win a State Championship and that is a realistic goal. They could care less about the validation of beating the county schools.
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Norm Peterson Wrote:Careful what you wish for...what is Somerset's record against the Marlin's all-time? I believe it is somewhere around 12 or 13 and 6, including the last 2. One of those two was against Pulaski's only regional champion. And don't give me the home field advantage stuff. That 1/2 mile road trip doesn't take that much out of you.

As for the deal I'm fine with it as long as Somerset gets 1/3 of the gate from the Don Marshall Bowl like Pulaski and Southwestern get from the Correll Bowl. Also I know Coach Lucas didn't want to play the County schools back to back weeks. I can understand not wanting to play two emotionally charged rivalry games back to back. By having one in week zero and one in week two it breaks it up a little bit and allows the coaches to focus on getting the team ready for the district games. The district and playoffs results are all that really matter. I'd rather have another local game than have to drive to Hazard again anyway. Somerset has their program at a point where it is a top 5 team each year. As long as the games with the local schools don't interfere with their goal of winning a state championship then I'm all for playing them. If they get to be counterproductive to that goal because of the emphasis put on the games by the players and community then I'd rather see neither game played. Ultimately Somerset wants to win a State Championship and that is a realistic goal. They could care less about the validation of beating the county schools.

You actually make some good points. I understand Coach Lucas not wanting to play each team back-to-back, that would be an issue with all 3 coaches IMO. My argument isn't about Somerset not wanting to play, it's about the fact that they will not leave the Briar Patch with the in-town schools. 2002 was the last year they played a "road" game against either Pulaski or SW. That's an entire decade. I'm just not sure why it's taken so long. Win or lose, I just want to see it happen year in and year out.
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I'm so excited for this! I cannot wait until 2013. But now, let's focus on 2012.
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So tired of the we are a 2a excuse before the game, then the you lost to a 2a school if shs wins. It's a lose -lose for the county schools.... Oh well...
Get over it, it's 11 v 11.
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This is bad for the Correll Bowl IMO. Personally, I can't pretend to be happy about this.
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I had heard the $ amount in contributions coming into the Correll Bowl has dwindled over the last several years making the payout smaller and smaller for the county schools. I do know without the county schools, the Correll Bowl would die all together. I think it was a smart move fiscally by somerset to do this. Somerset have scheduled 2 5A schools anyway (one county school and Perry Central this year) so why not make it a $ winfall for them too. As far as these games being meaningless, in the playoff picture yes it is meaningless, but that does that mean that all of your non-district games are meaningless? You need tough games to get ready for the district, And both PC and Southwestern will give them that, as well Somerset for PC and Southwestern.
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Wildcat18 Wrote:You actually make some good points. I understand Coach Lucas not wanting to play each team back-to-back, that would be an issue with all 3 coaches IMO. My argument isn't about Somerset not wanting to play, it's about the fact that they will not leave the Briar Patch with the in-town schools. 2002 was the last year they played a "road" game against either Pulaski or SW. That's an entire decade. I'm just not sure why it's taken so long. Win or lose, I just want to see it happen year in and year out.

If you were the Head Coach you would not like to play 2 County rivals in one Season. A Team can only get sky high so many times in a Season. Take 3 District Games and 2 Rival Games that is 5 times in a Season your team must reach for a little more. Hard to do, Good Luck in whatever the choice. I think for anyone to say Somerset is padding their Schedule is crazy. Somerset play's a tough Schedule, as good as anyone in 2A Football and better than most.
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I think Somerset's increase in quality of opponents has helped them out a lot. Playing weak teams each and every week is not going to help you come postseason time. This year's schedule will help out the Jumpers in the playoffs. Mark it down!
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[quote=wiseguy85]I had heard the $ amount in contributions coming into the Correll Bowl has dwindled over the last several years making the payout smaller and smaller for the county schools. I do know without the county schools, the Correll Bowl would die all together. I think it was a smart move fiscally by somerset to do this. Somerset have scheduled 2 5A schools anyway (one county school and Perry Central this year) so why not make it a $ winfall for them too. As far as these games being meaningless, in the playoff picture yes it is meaningless, but that does that mean that all of your non-district games are meaningless? You need tough games to get ready for the district, And both PC and Southwestern will give them that, as well Somerset for PC and Southwestern.[/QUO Somerset plays 4 5A Schools now, East Jessamine, Perry Central, Whitley County, and Southwestern.
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I think the Coach should have final say on the Schedule. Coach Lucas is very good a making his schedule. He should be the one to say if he needs to play both County Schools in one year.
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^That's another problem I have with this is that the administration forced Coach Lucas into the DM Bowl. They could care less what direction the program is heading.
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One of the problems I have with all 3 local schools playing in the DM Bowl is that neither county school has enough seating or parking to hold the crowds. The Correll Bowl has twice the seating and twice the on location parking and in most years neither of those is enough.

I would rather play these games week 0 and 3 or 1 and 4 with two weeks between games.

As far as not playing either school on the road since the Correll Bowl started, both county schools wanted 1/3 of the Correll gate ($6-8,000) which they got and then a full gate at their place. Somerset gets 1/3 of the Correll and that's it...never sounded fair to me.

As far as home filed advantage I think all three schools have won enough games in the Correll Bowl to dispel any notion of their being a home field advantage for Somerset.
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RoShamBo Wrote:^That's another problem I have with this is that the administration forced Coach Lucas into the DM Bowl. They could care less what direction the program is heading.
That's not the only "thing" that has been forced on him either.
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Jumper Dad Wrote:That's not the only "thing" that has been forced on him either.

Care to elaborate??
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I think this is a bad idea. It may determine which school is the top in the community each season, but it will just add to the bad blood between the three schools. I don't see anything good that can come from this. I hope I am wrong, but I know how competitive these schools are and that is just going to add to the hype and drama these games will bring to this area. It may be OK to hate on the players from a school you play once a year, but not when you see these guys at Wal-mart and the mall every week. I don't think the relations between the three schools will be improved by this. We all know how one school rubs it in when they win, and if they are all in the same community it will not be good.
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I look at it this way, the kids wanna play each local school! It gives them bragging rights in the county. Plus as they get older and grow up with their peers it allows them to share stories and remember about their high school days. There is nothing like a Friday night against a rival, I would love to see the rivalry between SW and Somerset grow a little. It will help the gate for both bowl games in the county!!
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I can certainly see why both county schools would want to play Somerset, but other than empty promises of the almighty dollar, I can't for the life of me see why Somerset would want to downgrade their schedule to play both of the traditionally lesser local programs every year.

And if what others on this thread say is true, then you're looking at a head coach who is 38-7 with 3 regional titles in 3 seasons, but one who isn't afforded the professional courtesy of determining his own schedule. Not a good sign. At all.

Who is Somerset's AD? Who is Somerset's Principal? They either lack balls, brains . . . or both.
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Dumpster Diving Wrote:Care to elaborate??

No, not at this point...
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Boo Hoo! Cry, Cry, Cry It is about time this happened. Split the money just like the RC Bowl and get used to playing one of the county schools "away" every year.
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Personally, I love this move and I am extremely excited to see all three schools face eachother every year and I hope this becomes a permanent thing. This way, we don't have the big snafu that we had a couple years ago that lasted all season long arguing about who would win between Pulaski Co and Somerset!
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