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08-05-2012, 07:42 PM
Okay guys. Here is the 4A Pre-Season.....let me know what needs changed and why?
Top 10
1. Highlands
2. Lexington Catholic
3. Boyle Co
4. Russell Co
5. Lone Oak
6. Covington Catholic
7. Ashland Blazer
8. Knox Central
9. Johnson Central
10. Collins
CLASS 4A
District 1
1. Lone Oak
2. Owensboro
3. Madisonville-North Hopkins
4. Calloway County
5. Hopkins County Central
District 2
1. Allen County-Scottsville
2. Franklin-Simpson
3. Warren East
4. Breckinridge Co
District 3
1. Collins
2. North Oldham
3. Spencer Co
4. Waggener
5. Nelson Co
District 4
1. Western
2. Moore
3. Doss
4. Valley
5. Fairdale
District 5
1. Lexington Catholic
2. Boyle Co
3. Mercer Co
4. Marion Co
5. Taylor Co
District 6
1. Russell Co
2. Knox Central
3. Rockcastle Co
4. Clay Co
District 7
1. Highlands
2. Covington Catholic
3. Holmes
4. Harrison County
5. Pendleton Co
District 8
1. Ashland Blazer
2. Johnson Central
3. Rowan Co
4. Boyd County
5. Greenup County
Top 10
1. Highlands
2. Lexington Catholic
3. Boyle Co
4. Russell Co
5. Lone Oak
6. Covington Catholic
7. Ashland Blazer
8. Knox Central
9. Johnson Central
10. Collins
CLASS 4A
District 1
1. Lone Oak
2. Owensboro
3. Madisonville-North Hopkins
4. Calloway County
5. Hopkins County Central
District 2
1. Allen County-Scottsville
2. Franklin-Simpson
3. Warren East
4. Breckinridge Co
District 3
1. Collins
2. North Oldham
3. Spencer Co
4. Waggener
5. Nelson Co
District 4
1. Western
2. Moore
3. Doss
4. Valley
5. Fairdale
District 5
1. Lexington Catholic
2. Boyle Co
3. Mercer Co
4. Marion Co
5. Taylor Co
District 6
1. Russell Co
2. Knox Central
3. Rockcastle Co
4. Clay Co
District 7
1. Highlands
2. Covington Catholic
3. Holmes
4. Harrison County
5. Pendleton Co
District 8
1. Ashland Blazer
2. Johnson Central
3. Rowan Co
4. Boyd County
5. Greenup County
08-05-2012, 09:17 PM
Actually district 3 is Collins, North Oldham, Spencer County, Waggener, and Atherton, and 4A district 4 is Western, Moore, Doss, Valley, Fairdale, and Nelson County.
But I do agree with your district 3 rankings, just replace Nelson County with Atherton.
But I do agree with your district 3 rankings, just replace Nelson County with Atherton.
08-05-2012, 09:25 PM
Honestly, it looks great. There might be a thing or two here or there we disagree on, BUT they are claims that teams have to make as the season goes on, not right now.
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08-05-2012, 10:20 PM
Covington Catholic (with third year starter at QB Blake Bir) should probably be ranked in top 4--perhaps even with Boyle as tied for 3. Agree that Highlands and Lexington Catholic are top 2.
08-05-2012, 11:05 PM
I think Boyle Co. should be at 2 if not 1,but I'm being bias,so there you go.
08-05-2012, 11:06 PM
We intend on getting the actual BGR rankings out after week 1.
Any info on this upcoming season and info on different teams would be a major help.
And like always, no matter who you are, we will listen to your opinions.
Any info on this upcoming season and info on different teams would be a major help.
And like always, no matter who you are, we will listen to your opinions.
08-06-2012, 12:31 AM
DollarBill Wrote:Covington Catholic (with third year starter at QB Blake Bir) should probably be ranked in top 4--perhaps even with Boyle as tied for 3. Agree that Highlands and Lexington Catholic are top 2.
Taking note. I was wondering what the expectations from CC were this year. Both CC and Boyle were teams that I was thinking hard about. Boyle turned on late and Whittle should come in to his own this year.
LWC Wrote:Honestly, it looks great. There might be a thing or two here or there we disagree on, BUT they are claims that teams have to make as the season goes on, not right now.
Thanks LWC. As always, it's going to take a few games to see who's living up to expectations and who isn't. Of course, I have high expectations for Russell Co. and it's hard to remove the slight bias
RunItUpTheGut Wrote:We intend on getting the actual BGR rankings out after week 1.
Any info on this upcoming season and info on different teams would be a major help.
And like always, no matter who you are, we will listen to your opinions.
We do need everyone's opinions because no one now's how the teams are doing pre-season better than the fan's that follow them before the games start. So we welcome as much input as possible.
08-06-2012, 12:34 AM
List looks great. Highlands is the clear favorites
If you need any assistance or want to report a problem feel free to PM me and we will get it taken care of! Thank you for choosing to be apart of the BGR community!
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08-06-2012, 12:34 AM
Gonna be great to see how "FUBAR" this becomes...lol.
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08-06-2012, 12:42 AM
I think your selling cov cath way short. There qb is the real deal. Maybe someone from nky can let us know what cov cath lost and has returning?
08-06-2012, 02:07 AM
Hopefully Rockcastle will make its way on this list
08-06-2012, 02:36 AM
Johnson Central has won 5 of the last 6 district championships. The Golden Eagles host Ashland this season in the matchup that most likely will decide the District 8 championship. That definitely makes JC a slight favorite to bring home another district title to Paintsville, IMO.
08-06-2012, 02:58 AM
Allen County Scottsville will make some noise coming out of the West. The Patriots return their entire backfield, 2 receivers, 2 line backers, 2 D-Line and 3 O-line from last year. They also have a great Junior class that will be there when needed. The team opens up in Bowling Green at Western with the Purples. They then go to Boyle County and play Mercer. These games will be a good test for the team.
I look to the game with Warren East to decide the District Champ and clinch homefield in the playoffs. ACS is very tough at home. The air in the stands will be electric on that cold night in November and the 12th man will certainly help.
Two years ago a small unknown school from outside Bowling Green just about pulled one out. This group of kids have done nothing but work hard to get another shot before they graduate.
A kid to watch out for that gets zero coverage is QB Conner Ross. Ross shared possesions last year with fellow Junior Casey Johnston. Ross ran for over 1,000 yards and Johnston threw for over 1,000. I am hearing that Johnston may be moving to receiver. If that is the case Ross might run for 1,500+ out of the veer.
Thats about all I know right now. Just can't wait for August 18th to get here so I can watch my boy Greg strap up for his Senior year. Love that kid. Sure has given the old man something to be proud of. Go #87
I look to the game with Warren East to decide the District Champ and clinch homefield in the playoffs. ACS is very tough at home. The air in the stands will be electric on that cold night in November and the 12th man will certainly help.
Two years ago a small unknown school from outside Bowling Green just about pulled one out. This group of kids have done nothing but work hard to get another shot before they graduate.
A kid to watch out for that gets zero coverage is QB Conner Ross. Ross shared possesions last year with fellow Junior Casey Johnston. Ross ran for over 1,000 yards and Johnston threw for over 1,000. I am hearing that Johnston may be moving to receiver. If that is the case Ross might run for 1,500+ out of the veer.
Thats about all I know right now. Just can't wait for August 18th to get here so I can watch my boy Greg strap up for his Senior year. Love that kid. Sure has given the old man something to be proud of. Go #87
08-06-2012, 09:45 AM
Not in particular order. Highlands, Lex Catholic, Bolye County, Covington Catholic, Martha L. Collins and the rest are miles behind.
08-06-2012, 11:57 AM
I think that Russell County may be too high, but I don't know too much about them, other than their disappointing end to last season.
Collins may be too low, but there are still some unknowns going into this season. They should have no problem scoring the ball, but it will be interesting to see how they're able to replace Michael Brooks and other key seniors lost on defense. I think that if they can get some younger players to step up on defense, they should be very tough to beat. The biggest thing for them on defense will be stopping the run. In all of their losses the last 2 years, they have not been able to stop the run. The first four games of the season (at Meade County, at Boyle County, Oldham County, and at Eastern) will tell us a lot about this team.
Collins may be too low, but there are still some unknowns going into this season. They should have no problem scoring the ball, but it will be interesting to see how they're able to replace Michael Brooks and other key seniors lost on defense. I think that if they can get some younger players to step up on defense, they should be very tough to beat. The biggest thing for them on defense will be stopping the run. In all of their losses the last 2 years, they have not been able to stop the run. The first four games of the season (at Meade County, at Boyle County, Oldham County, and at Eastern) will tell us a lot about this team.
08-06-2012, 10:18 PM
I expect ACS to make some noice this year. I know last year was one of those lone years where they just didn't have the upper classmen.
I am waiting to see how Collins starts the season. They graduated a couple of key players from last seasons team, but I expect them to be in the mix as again this year.
Russell Co may be too high, but I don't see them being loosing to the teams below them. This may change come week 1 or 2. The game at Whitley will be the first test for them.
Keep the info coming. I'm listening.
I am waiting to see how Collins starts the season. They graduated a couple of key players from last seasons team, but I expect them to be in the mix as again this year.
Russell Co may be too high, but I don't see them being loosing to the teams below them. This may change come week 1 or 2. The game at Whitley will be the first test for them.
Keep the info coming. I'm listening.
08-07-2012, 05:10 AM
I'll take CovCath at 2nd, Lex.Cath 3rd, and Boyle 4th.
08-07-2012, 08:32 AM
laker20 Wrote:I expect ACS to make some noice this year. I know last year was one of those lone years where they just didn't have the upper classmen.
I am waiting to see how Collins starts the season. They graduated a couple of key players from last seasons team, but I expect them to be in the mix as again this year.
Russell Co may be too high, but I don't see them being loosing to the teams below them. This may change come week 1 or 2. The game at Whitley will be the first test for them.
Keep the info coming. I'm listening.
Huh? You don't see them losing to teams below them? Lone Oak and Covington Catholic are below them. Seriously? Listen Russell might have alot of seniors to be returning, but those returning are the same group the choke in the playoffs to a LESS talented Mercer Co. team. So what make you sure history does not repeat? Cause it's a year later? Don't get me wrong, I know your a homie for Russell Co and they will have a succesfull season, but to compete with the Boyle Co, Lex Cath, Cov Cath, Lone Oak, Collins and Highlands is a big STRETCH brother. Good luck though.
08-07-2012, 09:33 AM
Hoot Gibson Wrote:Johnson Central has won 5 of the last 6 district championships. The Golden Eagles host Ashland this season in the matchup that most likely will decide the District 8 championship. That definitely makes JC a slight favorite to bring home another district title to Paintsville, IMO.Please do not associate us Johnson Central with Paintsville on any level. :dontthink
Yes, we do have a Paintsville mailing and physical address. But we do not concider ourselfs to be from Paintsville. Paintsville has their own team. We represent Johnson County. :rockon:
But I do agree with you on JC winnning another district title this year. :biggrin:
08-07-2012, 09:43 AM
Pulp Fiction Wrote:Please do not associate us Johnson Central with Paintsville on any level. :dontthink
Yes, we do have a Paintsville mailing and physical address. But we do not concider ourselfs to be from Paintsville. Paintsville has their own team. We represent Johnson County. :rockon:
But I do agree with you on JC winnning another district title this year. :biggrin:
Just so you know PF. Hoot is a JC grad who has has sons in recent years play for the Golden Eagles, and while now living away from here , is still a great supporter of JC football..
08-07-2012, 09:55 AM
Bob Seger Wrote:Just so you know PF. Hoot is a JC grad who has has sons in recent years play for the Golden Eagles, and while now living away from here , is still a great supporter of JC football..Awesome.... :Thumbs:
But for those of us that were in school through the JC/Paintsville football rivalry years... It's hard to see anything associated with the Black & Gold and Paintsville in the same sentence.
08-07-2012, 10:08 AM
tomcatfan722000 Wrote:I think your selling cov cath way short. There qb is the real deal. Maybe someone from nky can let us know what cov cath lost and has returning?
CovCath lost a lot offensively, other than their QB (Bir) who is, as you noted, the real deal. Some have questioned his arm strength and ability to throw the long ball, but he is very accurate on the short and medium passes. Their best RB graduated as did their best receiver and a lot of their O line from what I recall. Supposedly there are talented players replacing the graduates. Time will tell if that is accurate. A very talented kid name Dressman, is supposed to be getting the bulk of the carries at the RB. The strength of the team is supposed to be on defense, specifically their LBing corps. They have a lot of talented and experienced players returning on D. I'm hearing that they will really challenge the Birds this year. And they may, but I heard that last year and I think the year before that too. They did push us last year in the regular season game. Offfensively they moved the ball very well. In the playoff game, it was just another butt kicking by Highlands, with CovCath's O having very little success. Some has asked me why the CovCath O was so ineffective during the playoff game, after having so much success during the regular season game. Simple truth is there were changes made defensively. First game, Highlands sat back and gave Bir time to pass. He picked Highlands D apart with short and medium passes. Their RB picked up 4 or 5 yds a carry. Their big O line just dominated Highlands smaller d linemen and LBers. In the second game, Highlands stunted and blitzed a whole lot. Really took advantage of their better speed and quickness at the d line and LBing positions. As a result, Bir had little time to pass and their RB was getting hit by stunting d linemen as soon as he got the handoff. CovCath coaches had no adjustments for what Highlands was doing defensively. Proving once again that the little saying that "it's all about the Johnnies and Joes, and not about the Xs and Os", is flat out wrong.
08-07-2012, 10:26 AM
Pulp Fiction Wrote:Awesome.... :Thumbs:
But for those of us that were in school through the JC/Paintsville football rivalry years... It's hard to see anything associated with the Black & Gold and Paintsville in the same sentence.
Oh, you can trust me in knowing that Hoot has been there and done that....lol
08-07-2012, 10:45 AM
Boyle will be down this year. I think they are ranked a little high.
08-07-2012, 11:07 AM
retireecoach Wrote:Boyle will be down this year. I think they are ranked a little high.
They might be down in talent wise and not a top contenters for the 4A title, but you have to understand they are still Boyle County ( Title Town ) and they will find a way to spoil other teams.
08-07-2012, 11:26 AM
I think they will spoil other teams. I just don't think they will be a contender in 4A. There is a big gap between Lex Cath and Highlands and the rest.
08-07-2012, 11:35 AM
retireecoach Wrote:Boyle will be down this year. I think they are ranked a little high.
We shall see. I think most from around here believe otherwise and that Boyle will be better, if the injury bug stays away.
08-07-2012, 02:23 PM
charlie22 Wrote:CovCath lost a lot offensively, other than their QB (Bir) who is, as you noted, the real deal. Some have questioned his arm strength and ability to throw the long ball, but he is very accurate on the short and medium passes. Their best RB graduated as did their best receiver and a lot of their O line from what I recall. Supposedly there are talented players replacing the graduates. Time will tell if that is accurate. A very talented kid name Dressman, is supposed to be getting the bulk of the carries at the RB. The strength of the team is supposed to be on defense, specifically their LBing corps. They have a lot of talented and experienced players returning on D. I'm hearing that they will really challenge the Birds this year. And they may, but I heard that last year and I think the year before that too. They did push us last year in the regular season game. Offfensively they moved the ball very well. In the playoff game, it was just another butt kicking by Highlands, with CovCath's O having very little success. Some has asked me why the CovCath O was so ineffective during the playoff game, after having so much success during the regular season game. Simple truth is there were changes made defensively. First game, Highlands sat back and gave Bir time to pass. He picked Highlands D apart with short and medium passes. Their RB picked up 4 or 5 yds a carry. Their big O line just dominated Highlands smaller d linemen and LBers. In the second game, Highlands stunted and blitzed a whole lot. Really took advantage of their better speed and quickness at the d line and LBing positions. As a result, Bir had little time to pass and their RB was getting hit by stunting d linemen as soon as he got the handoff. CovCath coaches had no adjustments for what Highlands was doing defensively. Proving once again that the little saying that "it's all about the Johnnies and Joes, and not about the Xs and Os", is flat out wrong.
Sounds like a lot of change for the colonels. However when you have stability at the qb position those things seem to transition smoother during the offseason so they should be pretty good.
08-07-2012, 05:24 PM
The hardest district to me would be 6 because 3 teams could win that district on any given night
08-07-2012, 07:21 PM
Pulp Fiction Wrote:Please do not associate us Johnson Central with Paintsville on any level. :dontthinkSorry, but the term "Johnsonville" sounds hokey to me. I went to school at Johnson Central but I am not ashamed that it is located within Paintsville's city limits. Too many people from around the state have no idea where Johnson County is located and giving them directions to a football game in "Johnsonville" just confuses them further. I was born in Paintsville, BTW, and even lived there on and off during my younger years.
Yes, we do have a Paintsville mailing and physical address. But we do not concider ourselfs to be from Paintsville. Paintsville has their own team. We represent Johnson County. :rockon:
But I do agree with you on JC winnning another district title this year. :biggrin:
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