Lawrence County To 59th District

PantherTradition · 02-08-2012, 06:57 PM

What's everyone's thoughts concerning the proposal of Lawrence County moving to the 59th District? Apparently the Board of Control placed the proposal on the agenda of its last meeting only to be tabled until April. Geographically, this makes no sense to me.:ape:

**PHSForever** · 02-08-2012, 07:22 PM

PantherTradition Wrote:What's everyone's thoughts concerning the proposal of Lawrence County moving to the 59th District? Apparently the Board of Control placed the proposal on the agenda of its last meeting only to be tabled until April. Geographically, this makes no sense to me.:ape:

Already a thread on this. We all made our thoughts known there. Lol

the 1 the only · 02-08-2012, 08:13 PM

great idea since both pvill districts have 3 teams compared to a 57th that has 5 only seems fair

~~lchsalumnus~~ · 02-08-2012, 09:38 PM

PantherTradition Wrote:What's everyone's thoughts concerning the proposal of Lawrence County moving to the 59th District? Apparently the Board of Control placed the proposal on the agenda of its last meeting only to be tabled until April. Geographically, this makes no sense to me.:ape:

it's not a big deal. truth is there needs to be something done in the 15th region. you have the 57th with 5 teams. then you have pike county or floyd county districts with 3 teams in it. people talk about travel. that's not a problem. didn't shelby valley travel to louisa for a football and basketball games? doesn't pikeville travel to louisa for basketball and baseball games? doesn't lawrence county travel to pike county for the same sports?

LCDAWGS19 · 02-08-2012, 10:38 PM

the 1 the only Wrote:great idea since both pvill districts have 3 teams compared to a 57th that has 5 only seems fair

The idea is great, yes. Wrong team though. Should be Magoffin.

**Real Badman** · 02-08-2012, 10:49 PM

Stupid idea, I could write a book on my thoughts about this and the idiocy of those administrators who think this is a good idea.

IF YOU THINK THIS IS A GOOD IDEA...YOU ARE MENTALLY STUPID.

D IT UP · 02-08-2012, 10:58 PM

Now that the group of baseball players have departed, they'll struggle to make it into the regional tourney for all sports.

**Bob Seger** · 02-08-2012, 11:05 PM

Wonder why they didn't ask to go back to the 64th?....lol

the 1 the only · 02-09-2012, 01:57 AM

Real Badman Wrote:Stupid idea, I could write a book on my thoughts about this and the idiocy of those administrators who think this is a good idea.

IF YOU THINK THIS IS A GOOD IDEA...YOU ARE MENTALLY STUPID.

Yep typical Pike county you say this because you know this would put your East ridge team from ever going to the region. :biglmao:

ACCplayer · 02-09-2012, 02:48 AM

I stated in the other thread that I was not a fan of this. However, the 57th is a 5 team district, which is extremely unfair to team involved. Some school had to move, since Magoffin refused to do so, Lawrence County stepped up and offered to do so. You can say what you want about them trying to get away from Johnson Central and Paintsville, but that is just not the case.

**Bob Seger** · 02-09-2012, 02:56 AM

the 1 the only Wrote:Yep typical Pike county you say this because you know this would put your East ridge team from ever going to the region. :biglmao:

Lets see, Lawrence Co. was 0-28 last year and is 2-13 against Kentucky teams this year. I would say that everyone in Pike County is shuttering in fear at the thoughts of Lawrence Co. coming to town. Confused

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**Bob Seger** · 02-09-2012, 03:00 AM

ACCplayer Wrote:I stated in the other thread that I was not a fan of this. However, the 57th is a 5 team district, which is extremely unfair to team involved. Some school had to move, since Magoffin refused to do so, Lawrence County stepped up and offered to do so. You can say what you want about them trying to get away from Johnson Central and Paintsville, but that is just not the case.

Like anyone has a choice if the KHSAA decides they want to send somebody somewhere?

ACCplayer · 02-09-2012, 03:01 AM

I can assure you no Pike County teams will "welcome" Lawrence County's Boys Basketball team to town in the coming years. Major talent in 8th grade right now.

ACCplayer · 02-09-2012, 03:03 AM

Bob Seger Wrote:Like anyone has a choice if the KHSAA decides they want to send somebody somewhere?

I am not familiar with all the KHSAA laws, and I'm sure you are not either.

**Bob Seger** · 02-09-2012, 03:48 AM

ACCplayer Wrote:I am not familiar with all the KHSAA laws, and I'm sure you are not either.

I know they put you where they want you. They care less if you like it or not.

Diogenes · 02-09-2012, 05:54 AM

Bob Seger Wrote:I know they put you where they want you. They care less if you like it or not.

Kinda how it sure seems to work in football, anyhow.

Unless of course you have somebody on the Board of Control. That seems to help you get what you want.

Regardless, it shouldn't be a member school's "option" about what district that school plays in. The school should be able to appeal a decision, but that's about it. No approval from the school itself should be required. I'm sure when the entire 6th and 7th regions got jacked up this year, several schools were unhappy about that, but I didn't see any of them having veto power over the move like some people seem to suggest 15th Region schools do.

That being said, one of the schools in the 57th needs to go somewhere. The 60th or 59th both seem legit. Or Lawrence to the 64th and pull a Letcher school up into the 15th, fine. One way or another, it should never happen that one team in a region has five teams while TWO districts have three.

Hillbilly Heartthrob · 02-09-2012, 09:58 AM

This was proposed because of political actions, not for the well-being of the kids.......but I heard this didn't go through?

**Batpuff** · 02-09-2012, 10:22 AM

Well they (KHSAA) will do what they think is best.... But I think in the long run it will be bad for LC to move to the 59th... They have struggled the last two years in basketball and the future is bright but until then it will be a struggle to get ten wins until this 8th grade group are soph. Baseball will be back as well maybe not this year but dont count Feltner out either.. I wish they would be back in the 64th myself.

**PHSForever** · 02-09-2012, 11:52 AM

Hillbilly Heartthrob Wrote:This was proposed because of political actions, not for the well-being of the kids.......but I heard this didn't go through?

It was tabled until the April meeting of the Board of Control.

In response to a couple comments on here:

I don't normally agree with everything Real Badman says, however, this WOULD be a stupid move. It was never discussed with Pikeville before being placed on the agenda. Lawrence County DID make the request for the move, the email showing the conversation between the LC superintendent and I believe Rowan County superintendent about it is online on the KHSAA site. I posted a thumbnail of it on the other thread. This move would be ridiculous for many reasons, chief among them, it would add a 1.5 hour drive EACH WAY to the schedule for a district game. While I agree that East Ridge is more suited for the 60th (most likely), I do NOT agree that LC is suited for the 59th. They need to be in the 64th or the 57th. It has nothing to do with competition, Pikeville is happy to play whomever is in their district, but the travel times (for both schools, as well as for Shelby Valley) to play a district game when other, more suitable and closer schools would make more sense, is crazy. In this day and age of budgets, asking schools to take on an added expense of transportation like this for multiple sports is just nuts.

NEXT · 02-09-2012, 12:29 PM

The answer is MAJOR realignment. Consolidations are all but done in the state so it is time for some region changes, not just districts.

**Panther Thunder** · 02-09-2012, 12:40 PM

NEXT Wrote:The answer is MAJOR realignment. Consolidations are all but done in the state so it is time for some region changes, not just districts.

That is what I told someone the other day on this topic. The KHSAA needs to just nuke the entire set up and realign every school and every district and every region. And when doing this, take into account proposed new schools and have a plan already drawn up for what will happen even if that involves teams moving regions. Something I looked at while researching is Lewis County seems like they could be a fit in the 10th region if LC were to move back to the 16th.

But all in all, this process will move rivals from one district to another, but with all the consolidation that has happened, it is necessary. Nuke the whole thing and start from scratch.

NEXT · 02-09-2012, 12:45 PM

By my count(could be wrong) there are 16, 5-team districts and 4, 3-team districts.

No excuse for 3-team districts AT ALL.

**Panther Thunder** · 02-09-2012, 12:48 PM

NEXT Wrote:By my count(could be wrong) there are 16, 5-team districts and 4, 3-team districts.

No excuse for 3-team districts AT ALL.

Agreed. But that is why the realignment needs to happen. The 15th does not have enough teams to not have a 3 team district.

Olderthandirt · 02-09-2012, 01:06 PM

Not be as smart as those at the KHSAA, why didn't they move Morgan into the 57th rather than Lawrence....then move Sheldon Clark into the district with Belfry, Phelps. That would give you
Morgan, JCHS, Magoffin and PHS

P'burg, Betsy Layne, Allen Central and South Floyd

Pikeville, Valley, Pike County Central and East Ridge

Belfry, Sheldon Clark, and Phelps

Unless I omitted someone........and send Lawrence back to the 16th.

LCDAWGS19 · 02-09-2012, 01:20 PM

Panther Thunder Wrote:That is what I told someone the other day on this topic. The KHSAA needs to just nuke the entire set up and realign every school and every district and every region. And when doing this, take into account proposed new schools and have a plan already drawn up for what will happen even if that involves teams moving regions. Something I looked at while researching is Lewis County seems like they could be a fit in the 10th region if LC were to move back to the 16th.

But all in all, this process will move rivals from one district to another, but with all the consolidation that has happened, it is necessary. Nuke the whole thing and start from scratch.

Realignment will happen soon. Lewis to the 10th is a possibility

Shady Grady · 02-09-2012, 03:58 PM

I know this sounds too simple, so it would never work:

57th - Lawrence Co., Sheldon Clark, Paintsville, Johnson Central

58th - Magoffin Co., Prestonsburg, Allen Central, South Floyd

59th - Betsy Layne, Pikeville, Shelby Valley, Jenkins

60th - East Ridge, Phelps, Pike Central, Belfry

Lawrence Co. to the 59th makes about as much sense as San Diego State to the Big East.

**Real Badman** · 02-09-2012, 06:06 PM

the 1 the only Wrote:Yep typical Pike county you say this because you know this would put your East ridge team from ever going to the region. :biglmao:

Are you serious, or just stupid?

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phil ivey · 02-09-2012, 09:26 PM

Love this!!! It's so true....why in the h*** would u put the team the farthest away in the 59th. It's simple break the 58th up hate to say it because I'm from bl but put them in the 59th Betsy layne is practically in pike county anyway. We own the 58th we need some different conpetition

PantherTradition · 02-10-2012, 12:01 AM

Shady Grady Wrote:I know this sounds too simple, so it would never work:

57th - Lawrence Co., Sheldon Clark, Paintsville, Johnson Central

58th - Magoffin Co., Prestonsburg, Allen Central, South Floyd

59th - Betsy Layne, Pikeville, Shelby Valley, Jenkins

60th - East Ridge, Phelps, Pike Central, Belfry

Lawrence Co. to the 59th makes about as much sense as San Diego State to the Big East.

This alignment makes sense.

It looks like the 15th/16th Region Representative who I believe is Superintendent in Rowan County has sold out the 59th District. Could this be a favor to the Floyd County Superintendent who is rumored to be the next 15th/16th Region Representative? Heaven forbid the Floyd County district being split lol.

There is chatter the Rowan County Superintendent sent an email to schools endorsing the Floyd County Superintendent as the next 15th/16th Representative.

**Panther Thunder** · 02-10-2012, 05:42 PM

Just a thought....

Eliminate the district format.

Everyone in the Region plays every other team in the region in ONE scheduled "Region Game". That would give every team 14 games, you could have 7 home and 7 away. And it would alternate on a year-to-year basis.

Seed 1-8 with tie-breaking formats for the seeds. Put 1-4 in a hat and 5-8 in a hat and draw that way for Region.

Not sure if it is KHSAA legal, but that is just a random idea that popped into my head. Not sure how I feel about it, Thoughts? It eliminates the idea that some districts are weaker than other and the best teams are not represented in the final 8 (Which is usually true).