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EKY vs. WKY
#1
We hear a lot of comparisons on this site between EKY and NKY teams (Usually powers such as Ashland, Johnson Central, Belfry are in the mix to knock down an NKY team) or WKY and NKY (Usually a power like Bowling Green) teams. That being said, there hasn't been a lot of talk about EKY and WKY on here. Who do you think is better? What are some potential EKY/WKY matchups you would like to see?
#2
Well, we've already seen Hazard and Mayfield. Based on the game as I saw it from watching it on iHigh, I think Pikeville could have beat Mayfield too. I'm just happy a school from EKY won the game. That being said, I think in 1A I'd have like to have seen Pikeville and Mayfield, or would like to see it, anyway.
#3
We need more WKY posters to get on here and give us a clue about their teams. But their resume of really good teams is pretty high. I don't think there is a team in EKY that would come within 5 TDs of Bowling Green! But after that, the competition levels out to make solid match-ups.
#4
Bowling Green is loaded every year. There are years when I think a team like JC or Belfry could give them a heck of a game, but this year is not one of them. Not because JC and Belfry are bad, it's that Bowling Green is just THAT GOOD!

It would be nice to have some WKY posters on here...so I guess this would be a good thread to put down recruitment ideas as well!
#5
Stardust Wrote:We need more WKY posters to get on here and give us a clue about their teams. But their resume of really good teams is pretty high. I don't think there is a team in EKY that would come within 5 TDs of Bowling Green! But after that, the competition levels out to make solid match-ups.

Stardust do you think BG will be as strong next season as they were last season? They did graduate 29 seniors and 13 of them were linemen. Hollis is also gone from the offense and they will return,according to thier roster,only 11 seniors. That's a big drop off in experience. In their defense,they do have 28 juniors to be coming into next season and with a roster of over 90,at least,there must be alot of talent.
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#6
Backwoods Wrote:Stardust do you think BG will be as strong next season as they were last season? They did graduate 29 seniors and 13 of them were linemen. Hollis is also gone from the offense and they will return,according to thier roster,only 11 seniors. That's a big drop off in experience. In their defense,they do have 28 juniors to be coming into next season and with a roster of over 90,at least,there must be alot of talent.

No, they won't be as strong, but that does not mean they will be down. This is a team that got a ton of experience for their under-classmen.

I expect Devon Hayes to be one of, if not the best QB in the state next season. He's 6-2 and probably a more pure passer than Hollis. Hollis gave you the running element, where Hayes will be your typical drop back QB, but he is very good and will be a Junior with playing time.

Running the ball, obviously Hollis was the primary weapon with the most rushing yards and they lose the #2 guy Neveras. But BG has the best name in football coming back and he lead the team in yards per carry, 11 ypc, Blue Tisdale. He will be a Junior next season as well. Blake Pillow, another incoming Junior was second on the team with 9 yards per carry. So, they have two backs that with over 800 yards between them and they will have no issue stepping in and picking up the slack on the ground.

Nacarus Fant was the teams leading receiver with over 1,000 yards, and he was only a sophomore.

Its the defensive side of the ball that they have to plug in numbers. They lose 3 of their top 4 tacklers, but after that, they bring a lot of talent back.

On the line, as I said before, they had a lot of kids get playing time during the season. Bowling Green only had one game this season that required their starters to stay in the game the whole time, and that was St. X. In the rest of their 14 games, The Purples completely dominated every game and reserves were playing before the first half was over in every game except Greenwood. But even in that game, the Reserves were in before the 3rd quarter was over.

Again, BG has a lot of holes to fill, but they were afforded an entire undefeated season this year to put next years squad on the field as much, and in some cases more, than this years starters.
#7
Stardust Wrote:No, they won't be as strong, but that does not mean they will be down. This is a team that got a ton of experience for their under-classmen.

I expect Devon Hayes to be one of, if not the best QB in the state next season. He's 6-2 and probably a more pure passer than Hollis. Hollis gave you the running element, where Hayes will be your typical drop back QB, but he is very good and will be a Junior with playing time.

Running the ball, obviously Hollis was the primary weapon with the most rushing yards and they lose the #2 guy Neveras. But BG has the best name in football coming back and he lead the team in yards per carry, 11 ypc, Blue Tisdale. He will be a Junior next season as well. Blake Pillow, another incoming Junior was second on the team with 9 yards per carry. So, they have two backs that with over 800 yards between them and they will have no issue stepping in and picking up the slack on the ground.

Nacarus Fant was the teams leading receiver with over 1,000 yards, and he was only a sophomore.

Its the defensive side of the ball that they have to plug in numbers. They lose 3 of their top 4 tacklers, but after that, they bring a lot of talent back.

On the line, as I said before, they had a lot of kids get playing time during the season. Bowling Green only had one game this season that required their starters to stay in the game the whole time, and that was St. X. In the rest of their 14 games, The Purples completely dominated every game and reserves were playing before the first half was over in every game except Greenwood. But even in that game, the Reserves were in before the 3rd quarter was over.

Again, BG has a lot of holes to fill, but they were afforded an entire undefeated season this year to put next years squad on the field as much, and in some cases more, than this years starters.

Good post. I can agree with all of it. BG's offense was powerful this past season,but their strength,I feel,was their defense. They held some good offenses down to nearly nothing. If they have anything near the defense they had last season they will repeat no problem.
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#8
^ Agreed BW
#9
Backwoods Wrote:Stardust do you think BG will be as strong next season as they were last season? They did graduate 29 seniors and 13 of them were linemen. Hollis is also gone from the offense and they will return,according to thier roster,only 11 seniors. That's a big drop off in experience. In their defense,they do have 28 juniors to be coming into next season and with a roster of over 90,at least,there must be alot of talent.

I'm not Stardust, but if you want an opinion...

I think BG will be just as good next year. It sounds crazy given the losses they have, but there are two things that Bowling Green ALWAYS has with Kevin Wallace at the helm:

1. Teams that get after you and play excellent defense
2. Teams that can run the ball, and get that 3 - 4 yards per play needed to control the chains.

This year BG was highly successful with the pass. Scooter Hollis completed 66% of his passes. Next year won't be any different in that BG will have a strong passing game even with Hollis gone. Hayes will be back and will be a solid QB. He completed 25 of his 38 passes in limited playing time this year. I think the loss of Tight End Jalen Hunter who had 26 receptions and 9 touchdowns will hurt, but Necarius Fant (56 receptions for 1,162 yards and 9 touchdowns) will be back for two more seasons. The passing game should once again be very good, and I know even with all of the losses that the run game and the defense will be rock solid. Should be another big year in Bowling Green.
#10
^ Why didn't you just copy & paste..... Wink
#11
No, they won't be as strong, but that does not mean they will be down. This is a team that got a ton of experience for their under-classmen.

I expect Devon Hayes to be one of, if not the best QB in the state next season. He's 6-2 and probably a more pure passer than Hollis. Hollis gave you the running element, where Hayes will be your typical drop back QB, but he is very good and will be a Junior with playing time.

Running the ball, obviously Hollis was the primary weapon with the most rushing yards and they lose the #2 guy Neveras. But BG has the best name in football coming back and he lead the team in yards per carry, 11 ypc, Blue Tisdale. He will be a Junior next season as well. Blake Pillow, another incoming Junior was second on the team with 9 yards per carry. So, they have two backs that with over 800 yards between them and they will have no issue stepping in and picking up the slack on the ground.

Nacarus Fant was the teams leading receiver with over 1,000 yards, and he was only a sophomore.

Its the defensive side of the ball that they have to plug in numbers. They lose 3 of their top 4 tacklers, but after that, they bring a lot of talent back.

On the line, as I said before, they had a lot of kids get playing time during the season. Bowling Green only had one game this season that required their starters to stay in the game the whole time, and that was St. X. In the rest of their 14 games, The Purples completely dominated every game and reserves were playing before the first half was over in every game except Greenwood. But even in that game, the Reserves were in before the 3rd quarter was over.


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#12
1A-East
2A-West
3A-East
4A-East
5A-West

I think this says it all about the overall look of teams. Im talking from top to bottom
#13
There are a lot of very young teams in WKY that took their lumps this year. Ohio County had a freshman quarterback, as did Caldwell County and Union County. These teams are building toward the future.
#14
As far as the top 1 or 2 teams I would take the west. For depth in a east vs west showdown of top 10's I would take the east every time.
#15
WideRight05 Wrote:No, they won't be as strong, but that does not mean they will be down. This is a team that got a ton of experience for their under-classmen.

I expect Devon Hayes to be one of, if not the best QB in the state next season. He's 6-2 and probably a more pure passer than Hollis. Hollis gave you the running element, where Hayes will be your typical drop back QB, but he is very good and will be a Junior with playing time.

Running the ball, obviously Hollis was the primary weapon with the most rushing yards and they lose the #2 guy Neveras. But BG has the best name in football coming back and he lead the team in yards per carry, 11 ypc, Blue Tisdale. He will be a Junior next season as well. Blake Pillow, another incoming Junior was second on the team with 9 yards per carry. So, they have two backs that with over 800 yards between them and they will have no issue stepping in and picking up the slack on the ground.

Nacarus Fant was the teams leading receiver with over 1,000 yards, and he was only a sophomore.

Its the defensive side of the ball that they have to plug in numbers. They lose 3 of their top 4 tacklers, but after that, they bring a lot of talent back.

On the line, as I said before, they had a lot of kids get playing time during the season. Bowling Green only had one game this season that required their starters to stay in the game the whole time, and that was St. X. In the rest of their 14 games, The Purples completely dominated every game and reserves were playing before the first half was over in every game except Greenwood. But even in that game, the Reserves were in before the 3rd quarter was over.


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#16
Stardust Wrote:On the line, as I said before, they had a lot of kids get playing time during the season. Bowling Green only had one game this season that required their starters to stay in the game the whole time, and that was St. X. In the rest of their 14 games, The Purples completely dominated every game and reserves were playing before the first half was over in every game except Greenwood. But even in that game, the Reserves were in before the 3rd quarter was over.


I went back and forth about correcting this since it doesn't affect your overall message, but my Dragon pride simply couldn't let you say that they had the reserves in against them in the first half. It was a 6-0 game into the 4th Quarter the first time they met, and the reserves didn't come in until the final possession of the game. It was 17-7 at halftime in the playoffs and the game was put away by the end of the third quarter, which was probably when the reserves were being heavily peppered into the game.

I agree with your overall message, the Purples will be good again. In the time that I've followed football in this area, Bowling Green has had one single "down" team, and that was 2002. And that type of year doesn't appear to be coming around any time soon. They'll be a contender or favorite for the 5A crown every year under the current alignment.
#17
Backwoods Wrote:Good post. I can agree with all of it. BG's offense was powerful this past season,but their strength,I feel,was their defense. They held some good offenses down to nearly nothing. If they have anything near the defense they had last season they will repeat no problem.

Bowling Green always has a strong defense, but it will not be up to the caliber they had this year. This defense was a like a perfect storm. They returned nine starters on defense, all seniors. And it really could have been ten returning senior starters as they moved Cofer from his linebacker position to offense. A few of those players were three year starters on defense. Out of the 11 defensive positions, ten were filled by seniors. Five of the backups on defense were likewise seniors. That's fifteen players lost on the two deep of the defense. It's just too much to expect a team that lost that much to not have a drop at all.

And again, that's not to say it won't be a typically strong Bowling Green defense, just that the 2011 edition was unreal talented. The 2013 edition with their strong sophomore class might be interesting to compare.
#18
^ I agree DF. This years team was loaded with extremely talented Sophomores. I think these guys step in this year and put BG right back at the top again, but in 2013, we may be saying that team is better than the 2011 version!
#19
Stardust Wrote:We need more WKY posters to get on here and give us a clue about their teams. But their resume of really good teams is pretty high. I don't think there is a team in EKY that would come within 5 TDs of Bowling Green! But after that, the competition levels out to make solid match-ups.

St. Xavier v/s Central home 30 - 31 (L) , St X v/s Bowling Green home 20 - 28 (L) ,Central 15-14 Belfry, i know u cant compare scores but i dont think BG would beat Belfry by no 5tds,probally 14-21 somewhere in between..
#20
For next years champions ill say....

1A- West team
2A- West Team
3A- East Team
4A- East Team
5A- West Team
6A- Trinity
#21
cuppett777 Wrote:St. Xavier v/s Central home 30 - 31 (L) , St X v/s Bowling Green home 20 - 28 (L) ,Central 15-14 Belfry, i know u cant compare scores but i dont think BG would beat Belfry by no 5tds,probally 14-21 somewhere in between..

Does Central not having the best skill player in the state for 99% of the game against Belfry not affect this score comparison? You do know that St X beat Central scoring 31 pts without their very talented QB playing 1 snap? Belfry is not in the same league as St X or BG. Both would handle Belfry by 4-5 TD's easily and had Wales played in the state championship game Central would have beaten Belfry by 2-3 TD's.
#22
W.Ky was not that strong this year. Some decent teams, Murray, an inconsistent Tilghman, Ft. Campbell, Lone Oak, and Christian County and a great team in Mayfield. I don't count Bowling Green and Warren Central as being in Western Ky. There was buzz more about some Madisonville players than the team overall. Would have to give the overall nod to E.Ky. Mayfield should be a beast next year. Tilghman in 12 will struggle to have a winning record. Lone Oak and Murray High both lose several seniors.
#23
^ Mayfield was a load this year and I suspect they will be again next year. They'll definitely be a contender and it will be exciting to watch them. A Mayfield/Hazard rematch isn't out of the question.

IMO Bowling Green will be the best WKY team again this year. How do you think someone like Ashland, Belfry, Bell, or JC would fare against them in 2012?
#24
RunItUpTheGut Wrote:For next years champions ill say....

1A- West team
2A- West Team
3A- East Team
4A- East Team
5A- West Team
6A- Trinity

I think the 2A state title either stays up north or comes to CKY next year. I think LCA and Somerset will both be better next year and Holy Cross and Newport Catholic have to be favorites in 2A right now.
#25
Tica Wrote:W.Ky was not that strong this year. Some decent teams, Murray, an inconsistent Tilghman, Ft. Campbell, Lone Oak, and Christian County and a great team in Mayfield. I don't count Bowling Green and Warren Central as being in Western Ky. There was buzz more about some Madisonville players than the team overall. Would have to give the overall nod to E.Ky. Mayfield should be a beast next year. Tilghman in 12 will struggle to have a winning record. Lone Oak and Murray High both lose several seniors.

Me either.
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smash mouth vs. speed

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