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11-26-2011, 03:08 AM
After their commanding victory against John Hardin, do they earn the #2 spot in the state? OPINIONS PLEASE
11-26-2011, 03:36 AM
I would love to see them play Highlands
11-26-2011, 03:40 AM
I believe so.
I know the Highlands fans will say no way in Hell, but i think its hard to go against BG.
At this point id put them in a tie, cause either way there still miles away from Trinity.
I know the Highlands fans will say no way in Hell, but i think its hard to go against BG.
At this point id put them in a tie, cause either way there still miles away from Trinity.
11-26-2011, 03:51 AM
NO
11-26-2011, 05:19 AM
Trinity
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nobody else matters.
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nobody else matters.
11-26-2011, 05:21 AM
Real Badman Wrote:Trinity
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nobody else matters.
:thatsfunn
11-26-2011, 05:57 AM
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The only kentucky teams that can come within 2 tds of Trinity is louisville and UK... ok only louisville lol
11-26-2011, 09:08 AM
I'm no knocking BG at all, but don't we have a comparable game already?
John Hardin be Lexington Catholic by 10. BG beat Lex Cath 16 at the end of the season, HHS just beat LC by 21? Can't that be used for comparative purposes?
John Hardin be Lexington Catholic by 10. BG beat Lex Cath 16 at the end of the season, HHS just beat LC by 21? Can't that be used for comparative purposes?
11-26-2011, 11:57 AM
Highlands and Central are both better than Bowling Green
11-26-2011, 12:31 PM
Yep!!!
11-26-2011, 12:35 PM
BG beat LC 30 to 12.
11-26-2011, 12:41 PM
Central , ST X,Highlands , Bowling Green , & possibly Scott County bunched all up together !
11-26-2011, 02:06 PM
Old Henry Man Wrote:Highlands and Central are both better than Bowling Green
:thatsfunn:
11-26-2011, 02:12 PM
Old Henry Man Wrote:Highlands and Central are both better than Bowling Green
:thatsfunn:
11-26-2011, 02:23 PM
Coachdad Wrote:Central , ST X,Highlands , Bowling Green , & possibly Scott County bunched all up together !
Ahem, Bowling Green defeated St Xavier 28-20 in Louisville.
Central lost to them 31-30 at home.
Don't think I would throw St. X in that mix. Central either. They are the kings of 3A but they still have losses to PRP and Manual. If you're going to put yourself on equal footing with the bigger schools, it's hard to do it when you lost to two of them. :Thumbs:
11-26-2011, 02:54 PM
Quote:The only kentucky teams that can come within 2 tds of Trinity is louisville and UK... ok only louisville lol
louisville is actually not a good football team either lol their just as horrible as uk
11-26-2011, 03:00 PM
Old Henry Man Wrote:Highlands and Central are both better than Bowling Green
You are either blind or retarded. Lex.Catholic scored their last td on our subs with a minute left. They didn't score 21 on Bowling Green. Compare scores all you want. I would love to see the Purples and Bluebirds play this year, but they don't. We will have to go with the polls and most have Bowling Green #2 in the state and 61st in the country before last night. Talk all the trash you want because it's still just trash talk.
11-26-2011, 03:40 PM
Bowling Green has had their chances against Highlands. They've proven they can't beat them. I also don't think they play intelligently enough to have a chance. Highlands would beat BG by 3 or 4 Td's like they always have beaten the W. Ky. teams.
11-26-2011, 03:56 PM
Wideleft01 Wrote:Bowling Green has had their chances against Highlands. They've proven they can't beat them. I also don't think they play intelligently enough to have a chance. Highlands would beat BG by 3 or 4 Td's like they always have beaten the W. Ky. teams.
They haven't ALWAYS beaten the WKY teams. After all, BG is 1-1 against Highlands. Which somehow has become BG can't beat Highlands.
I can only tell you that I've seen the Purples annually for 13 years. This is easily the best Bowling Green team I've watched. They've been building to this team for years. Almost any other year I would be in solid agreement that Highlands is unapproachable, but this Bowling Green team is an exception.
Everyone is so fond of looking at the past results. Compare for yourself the teams and results Bowling Green has posted this year compared to any recent year.
11-26-2011, 04:08 PM
DragonFire Wrote:They haven't ALWAYS beaten the WKY teams. After all, BG is 1-1 against Highlands. Which somehow has become BG can't beat Highlands.
Actually, the record between the schools is 3-1 in Highlands favor. Highlands won in 1960 (26-13 in BG), 1961 (49-6 in Ft Thomas) and 2007 (28-7 in Louisvillle for the 5A state championship). Bowling Green won in 1995 (28-12 in Louisville for the 3A state championship).
The rest of your comments were all your opinion, and not necessarily agreed to by everyone.
Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. Mine is that Western KY football in general, may have been better that Northern KY football in the late 1960's, but not recently, except that Mayfield seems to own Beechwood the last three years.
Highlands has won the last 4 5A championships by scores of 50-0, 35-7. 35-15 and 28-7, all over Western KY schools. The last WKY (I don't consider Boyle County a WKY schoo0 school to beat HHS was BG in 1995, 16 years ago.
11-26-2011, 04:30 PM
Wise one Wrote:Actually, the record between the schools is 3-1 in Highlands favor. Highlands won in 1960 (26-13 in BG), 1961 (49-6 in Ft Thomas) and 2007 (28-7 in Louisvillle for the 5A state championship). Bowling Green won in 1995 (28-12 in Louisville for the 3A state championship).
The rest of your comments were all your opinion, and not necessarily agreed to by everyone.
Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. Mine is that Western KY football in general, may have been better that Northern KY football in the late 1960's, but not recently, except that Mayfield seems to own Beechwood the last three years.
Highlands has won the last 4 5A championships by scores of 50-0, 35-7. 35-15 and 28-7, all over Western KY schools. The last WKY (I don't consider Boyle County a WKY schoo0 school to beat HHS was BG in 1995, 16 years ago.
Caught me, didn't look back far enough. The results of the 60s (or even 1995 and 2007) are as relevant to this year as if we compared scores of games from the 40s. 3-1 advantage, or even just the 1-0 advantage of any time that would be called recent, none of it has bearing on this year. No player on any of those teams remains.
This whole discussion is opinion, so of course pretty much any statement I make is going to be my opinion. I've seen Highlands fans state this year's team is clearly better than last year's team - there has to be basis for that opinion. As I said at the end of my post, I invite you take a look at the schedule Bowling Green played, the results of those games, and compare it to previous years and tell me that there is no basis for my opinion. And that's not even taking into account that I am extremely familiar with the team and have seen them more than a fair share in that timeframe.
It is not my opinion that Bowling Green has been building to this team for years, that is something that has been told to me and it is extremely obvious when you look at the personnel. I don't know how common it is to have 31 seniors with multiple multi-year starters at Highlands, but it isn't common anywhere around here.
Lastly, I am not arguing that WKY football is better than NKY football. I'm not arguing that Highlands wasn't far better than any in the west in recent years. I'm only arguing that this Bowling Green team is different from the teams you are familiar with. And that should be apparent to anyone that has seen them or is paying attention.
11-26-2011, 04:51 PM
Coachdad Wrote:Central , ST X,Highlands , Bowling Green , & possibly Scott County bunched all up together !
No way No how should Scott Co. be listed in this group. If LC or Boyle Co. either one played the same schedule as Scott Co. this year they would have both been undefeated. Lex Cath tried hard to schedule Scott Co. this year,we even offered them a home and home contract but coach Mckee would have no part in it.
11-26-2011, 05:06 PM
toolaidback Wrote:After their commanding victory against John Hardin, do they earn the #2 spot in the state? OPINIONS PLEASE
No. Highlands is.
11-26-2011, 05:39 PM
How can anyone who hasn't seen both teams play this year know. Even then it would be a guess. I saw Highlands lose to Trinity in a scrimmage and think Bowling Green would match up with them pretty well.
11-26-2011, 09:33 PM
DragonFire Wrote:I'm only arguing that this Bowling Green team is different from the teams you are familiar with.
I am arguing that this year's BG team could not have improved enough in one year to be able to defeat last year's BG team by 50 or more points. That is the kind of improvement it would have taken to even be competitive with Highlands this year. The Birds are as good (perhaps even a little better) this year.
11-26-2011, 09:47 PM
Blau Vogel Wrote:I am arguing that this year's BG team could not have improved enough in one year to be able to defeat last year's BG team by 50 or more points. That is the kind of improvement it would have taken to even be competitive with Highlands this year. The Birds are as good (perhaps even a little better) this year.
First, I don't believe (and I don't think even Highlands supporters believe) that they were 50 points better than Christian County. They beat them by that much, but the Colonels also laid down in the second half, and really I would say laid down from the instant they didn't get the score at the end of the first half. 30-35 points better, yes, 50, no. Same way people are indicating they don't think Bowling Green is 42 points better than John Hardin, but they damn sure were last night.
Here's what I'll tell you. Warren Central this year was better than last year's team. Not by a wide margin, but I believe they were better. Defense got worse, but the offense improved by about double. The Dragons beat BG by 3 last year. They lost by 21 and 33 this year to the Purples. That is a marked difference. If there were no other examples I could give you, I think that would be enough to show you a huge difference.
The common opponent these two teams had should tell you the difference between them is not wide. Earlier this year before Bowling Green played Lexington Catholic, you and a couple of others predicted Catholic would beat BG, and if not, that Highlands would easily exceed the difference (one poster predicted if BG won by 3-4 TDs then Highlands would get a running clock). Now that we have the margins (BG by 18, Highlands by 21) and it doesn't look the way you thought, everyone has just reverted back to the "Highlands beat the WKY teams by this much" argument they always do.
It's not that I don't understand why you guys have your mindset, but I do believe you are so locked into the past results that you are not paying attention to this year.
11-26-2011, 10:58 PM
DragonFire Wrote:First, I don't believe (and I don't think even Highlands supporters believe) that they were 50 points better than Christian County. They beat them by that much, but the Colonels also laid down in the second half, and really I would say laid down from the instant they didn't get the score at the end of the first half. 30-35 points better, yes, 50, no.30-35 points better, yes, 50, no. Same way people are indicating they don't think Bowling Green is 42 points better than John Hardin, but they damn sure were last night.
Here's what I'll tell you. Warren Central this year was better than last year's team. Not by a wide margin, but I believe they were better. Defense got worse, but the offense improved by about double. The Dragons beat BG by 3 last year. They lost by 21 and 33 this year to the Purples. That is a marked difference. If there were no other examples I could give you, I think that would be enough to show you a huge difference.
The common opponent these two teams had should tell you the difference between them is not wide. Earlier this year before Bowling Green played Lexington Catholic, you and a couple of others predicted Catholic would beat BG, and if not, that Highlands would easily exceed the difference (one poster predicted if BG won by 3-4 TDs then Highlands would get a running clock). Now that we have the margins (BG by 18, Highlands by 21) and it doesn't look the way you thought, everyone has just reverted back to the "Highlands beat the WKY teams by this much" argument they always do.
It's not that I don't understand why you guys have your mindset, but I do believe you are so locked into the past results that you are not paying attention to this year.
I would say they WERE 50 points better because Highlands probably puts up 70 if they hadn't called off the dogs and the running clock doesn't start with 5:48 left in the third quarter. That is a quarter and a half, that the Birds coasted. However, even if we use your 30 - 35 points, how much would BG have to improve to cover that spread? Are they really five TD's better? If so, I would contend that would be the best one year improvement in the history of high school football.
11-26-2011, 11:24 PM
All hail the mighty Bluebirds. Some of you sound like robots. Lost in the past. If it's any consolation to some of you, Bowling Green has 31 seniors. I don't think they will be as good next year. Tell your coaches to schedule them next year, because in two years they are going to be really good again.
11-26-2011, 11:36 PM
adopted purple Wrote:All hail the mighty Bluebirds. Some of you sound like robots. Lost in the past. If it's any consolation to some of you, Bowling Green has 31 seniors. I don't think they will be as good next year. Tell your coaches to schedule them next year, because in two years they are going to be really good again.
The much smaller Highlands will graduate 23 seniors...they are going to be really good next year. They have 26 juniors and 36 sophomores, all with significant playing time.
http://www.highlands-bluebirds.com/ssp/r...y=a_number
11-26-2011, 11:58 PM
Blau Vogel Wrote:I would say they WERE 50 points better because Highlands probably puts up 70 if they hadn't called off the dogs and the running clock doesn't start with 5:48 left in the third quarter. That is a quarter and a half, that the Birds coasted. However, even if we use your 30 - 35 points, how much would BG have to improve to cover that spread? Are they really five TD's better? If so, I would contend that would be the best one year improvement in the history of high school football.
Highlands could have scored 100 if they wanted to because, as I said, Christian County was already going through the motions before the first half was over. Highlands cut their heart out early in the second quarter and they looked like they went into shock.
And again, use my Warren Central example if you would like to put numbers on it. That's an improvement of 24 or 36 points depending on which game you use. Average it out, where are you? 30 points. And that's not even trying to put a number on how much Central improved either. Year over year, there's not a team on Central's schedule (other than BG of course) that the Dragons did not beat by way more this year.
Still no thoughts on the LexCath scores?
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