10-17-2011, 09:28 AM
So what is the answer? Does he stay or does he go? Maybe Zaga knows.inglepar
10-17-2011, 10:56 AM
I hope the kid is ruled eligible, he deserves to be eligible.
10-17-2011, 12:16 PM
Just talked to Zaga, he said nothing new as of today.
Haters got a few more days to hate
Haters got a few more days to hate
10-17-2011, 12:31 PM
With or without Jaysean PCC still should be able to take the 14th.
10-17-2011, 12:38 PM
^Best thing you have said all year long.
10-17-2011, 12:47 PM
EastKyMx Wrote:Just talked to Zaga, he said nothing new as of today.
Haters got a few more days to hate
He needs to dig a little deeper!!!
10-17-2011, 02:15 PM
Initial ruling from the KHSAA this morning is ineligible.
I haven't been on to let anyone know.
Perry looks to appeal the decision but the kid can't practice until he's eligible.
Just like the whole Ben Bowling thing a few years back.
From what I've been told he was ineligible in NY before the transfer and that is why they ruled it this way.
I'll be back on this evening and let you guys no anything else I hear.
I haven't been on to let anyone know.
Perry looks to appeal the decision but the kid can't practice until he's eligible.
Just like the whole Ben Bowling thing a few years back.
From what I've been told he was ineligible in NY before the transfer and that is why they ruled it this way.
I'll be back on this evening and let you guys no anything else I hear.
10-17-2011, 02:17 PM
^Not good news for Perry.
Rumor has it, even if he does transfer back he does not look to get eligible back in NY either.
So my question is - why not let a guy that has traveled all the way to KY due to his family moving - be able to play in his senior (last year) of highschool? This has to be painful news for Jaysean.
Rumor has it, even if he does transfer back he does not look to get eligible back in NY either.
So my question is - why not let a guy that has traveled all the way to KY due to his family moving - be able to play in his senior (last year) of highschool? This has to be painful news for Jaysean.
10-17-2011, 02:19 PM
Get the appeal in and get him ruled eligible! Alot of haters are bout to get the big head when they see this.
Either way this goes, Perrys still gonna run the show.
Either way this goes, Perrys still gonna run the show.
10-17-2011, 02:55 PM
This is sad news for another young man. The word I hear is that he had originally intended to transfer to to a high school in Logan, WV, and was not allowed to enroll, due to the grade and eligibility issues in NY, the coach in Logan is the son of the PCC coach, a call was made and eligibility was assured to him and his parents. This is unfortunate for him as I undertstand he is an outstanding player, but scholastics must factor into the equation too. The PC administration should be ashamed of themselves for trying to use a kid to further their own agenda, i.e., JPC, you should be careful what you wish for and watch what you do to get back to the state tourney, you never know when the next bomb will drop. And, before you question the truth of this, I know from the front row!!
10-17-2011, 03:29 PM
Even if Perry does appeal - it is super hard to get someone eligible at this point.
10-17-2011, 03:30 PM
We Bleed Blue Wrote:This is sad news for another young man. The word I hear is that he had originally intended to transfer to to a high school in Logan, WV, and was not allowed to enroll, due to the grade and eligibility issues in NY, the coach in Logan is the son of the PCC coach, a call was made and eligibility was assured to him and his parents. This is unfortunate for him as I undertstand he is an outstanding player, but scholastics must factor into the equation too. The PC administration should be ashamed of themselves for trying to use a kid to further their own agenda, i.e., JPC, you should be careful what you wish for and watch what you do to get back to the state tourney, you never know when the next bomb will drop. And, before you question the truth of this, I know from the front row!!
Never mind!!! :thatsfunn
10-17-2011, 03:33 PM
zaga_fan Wrote:Initial ruling from the KHSAA this morning is ineligible.I haven't been on to let anyone know.
Perry looks to appeal the decision but the kid can't practice until he's eligible.
Just like the whole Ben Bowling thing a few years back.
From what I've been told he was ineligible in NY before the transfer and that is why they ruled it this way.
I'll be back on this evening and let you guys no anything else I hear.
It was actually one day last week but I guess fall break slowed the flow of information.
10-17-2011, 03:34 PM
Ballers Wrote:Even if Perry does appeal - it is super hard to get someone eligible at this point.
A lot of kids have won appeals, and I really have no names to reference here (sounds dumb I know), but I have heard of a lot of kids being ruled ineligible but then appealing and gaining eligibility. Whatever the case, I hope whatever is best for Jaysean is the outcome of this one.
10-17-2011, 04:00 PM
Sounds like Jaysean should of went to class while in NY. If grades are an issue, I dont see how he will get eligible here. I know you can only make up so much in credit recovery. But best of luck to him. Very sad if he dont get to play his Senior year.
10-17-2011, 04:34 PM
Bylaw 6
Section 4d
Perry can hope for the best but need to look into playing without him IMO.
From the looks of it this kid didn't have a chance of playing to begin with.
I wonder when he was ruled ineligible in NY.
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Section 4d
[SIZE=2]A student is ineligible for athletics in this state if he or she
transfers from another state if the student was or would have
become ineligible in the state from which he or she transfers.transfers from another state if the student was or would have
Perry can hope for the best but need to look into playing without him IMO.
From the looks of it this kid didn't have a chance of playing to begin with.
I wonder when he was ruled ineligible in NY.
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10-17-2011, 04:53 PM
I said in earlier post that they would have to appeal it, but with him being ineligible before he came i agree with zaga with perry having to play without him. Horrible news for Jaysean, but perrys still on top until proven otherwise.
10-17-2011, 04:59 PM
KHSAA12 Wrote:I said in earlier post that they would have to appeal it, but with him being ineligible before he came i agree with zaga with perry having to play without him. Horrible news for Jaysean, but perrys still on top until proven otherwise.
Maybe the best thing that could happen to him. He and his family need to think about getting him into a military academy or prep school.
10-17-2011, 07:43 PM
We Bleed Blue Wrote:This is sad news for another young man. The word I hear is that he had originally intended to transfer to to a high school in Logan, WV, and was not allowed to enroll, due to the grade and eligibility issues in NY, the coach in Logan is the son of the PCC coach, a call was made and eligibility was assured to him and his parents. This is unfortunate for him as I undertstand he is an outstanding player, but scholastics must factor into the equation too. The PC administration should be ashamed of themselves for trying to use a kid to further their own agenda, i.e., JPC, you should be careful what you wish for and watch what you do to get back to the state tourney, you never know when the next bomb will drop. And, before you question the truth of this, I know from the front row!!
According to a source in Jamestown, to the best of their knowledge, Jaysean was eligible to play this year so I don't know why this even came up. I do not know what the official reason for his ineligibility, but I would be surprised if it was ineligibility to play in NYS. I know a lot of you maintain that I am a hater but that is not true -- just realistic and in the "second row" as far as information goes. I also heard a story about the reason he was there was for credit recovery. He didn't need to leave NYS for that which makes it look very suspect. The Logan, WV school already enrolled a WNY "transfer" so it might have looked like recruiting to Logan to have 2 "transfers" show up from WNY.
He had plenty of exposure in NYS, the University of Buffalo b'ball coach, Reggie Witherspoon watched him play many times and they are D-1. How come no other D-1 schools are recruiting him? I hate to say it, but he is a liability because as another poster said, he would not be any good to a team sitting on the bench. You still have to be a complete package for D-1: school is part of it. And don't start with shame on J'Town -- they worked really hard to keep him eligible to play but when the season is over, maybe he didn't care. It is always up to the player to be accountable for themselves.
If appealing the ruling turns out in his favor as another poster mentioned, good for him. It would be a shame to have his "senior" year wasted based on promises. Karma can be a b_ _ _ch.
:Sad04:
10-17-2011, 07:59 PM
Irish Wrote:According to a source in Jamestown, to the best of their knowledge, Jaysean was eligible to play this year so I don't know why this even came up. I do not know what the official reason for his ineligibility, but I would be surprised if it was ineligibility to play in NYS. I know a lot of you maintain that I am a hater but that is not true -- just realistic and in the "second row" as far as information goes. I also heard a story about the reason he was there was for credit recovery. He didn't need to leave NYS for that which makes it look very suspect. The Logan, WV school already enrolled a WNY "transfer" so it might have looked like recruiting to Logan to have 2 "transfers" show up from WNY.
He had plenty of exposure in NYS, the University of Buffalo b'ball coach, Reggie Witherspoon watched him play many times and they are D-1. How come no other D-1 schools are recruiting him? I hate to say it, but he is a liability because as another poster said, he would not be any good to a team sitting on the bench. You still have to be a complete package for D-1: school is part of it. And don't start with shame on J'Town -- they worked really hard to keep him eligible to play but when the season is over, maybe he didn't care. It is always up to the player to be accountable for themselves.
If appealing the ruling turns out in his favor as another poster mentioned, good for him. It would be a shame to have his "senior" year wasted based on promises. Karma can be a b_ _ _ch.
:Sad04:
Ive never even thought this while reading one of your posts but........
Nice Post Man!
Good Luck to Jaysean in his future with Perry or where ever he may end up at, The fans of Perry would have loved to have seen you get to play basketball in a Region that is well known for High School Basketball. Maybe someone was to blame for this but all we know is the ruling.
We can blame it on HATERS all day long if we want to, but in the long run. No one person from New York that is Mad over him coming is going to cause enough stir to get him ruled Ineligible.
Zaga brought up today a really good point but I will allow him to share it if he wants. I don't agree with Zaga on many things other than on here to cause a stir but, Seems like Jaysean SHOULD have been ruled Eligible. A Parent moving is a parent moving, some may have other explanations as to why he ended up in Perry County but alot of people will read into what Jaysean has said and some of us have even had the privilege of speaking with him about this move. So think what you may, This kid has gotten Screwed out of a great Senior year of basketball. No Matter what Irish thinks, or Zaga, or Ballers thinks (and hes got a direct line to Ms. Cleo!)
Good Luck Jaysean
and as always...........
:haters:
10-17-2011, 09:08 PM
I hope the appeal turns out good for him and he is ruled eligible. It will only make Eastern Kentucky and most notably Perry Central basketball that much more fun to watch this year.
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10-17-2011, 11:09 PM
EastKyMx Wrote:Ive never even thought this while reading one of your posts but........
Nice Post Man!
Good Luck to Jaysean in his future with Perry or where ever he may end up at, The fans of Perry would have loved to have seen you get to play basketball in a Region that is well known for High School Basketball. Maybe someone was to blame for this but all we know is the ruling.
We can blame it on HATERS all day long if we want to, but in the long run. No one person from New York that is Mad over him coming is going to cause enough stir to get him ruled Ineligible.
Zaga brought up today a really good point but I will allow him to share it if he wants. I don't agree with Zaga on many things other than on here to cause a stir but, Seems like Jaysean SHOULD have been ruled Eligible. A Parent moving is a parent moving, some may have other explanations as to why he ended up in Perry County but alot of people will read into what Jaysean has said and some of us have even had the privilege of speaking with him about this move. So think what you may, This kid has gotten Screwed out of a great Senior year of basketball. No Matter what Irish thinks, or Zaga, or Ballers thinks (and hes got a direct line to Ms. Cleo!)
Good Luck Jaysean
and as always...........
:haters:
I don't remember what good point I made...
other than the fact that if the Cordia kids were eligible than this kid should be lol
However....
each situation is different and the KHSAA has the final say.
10-17-2011, 11:17 PM
KentuckyFan35 Wrote:It was actually one day last week but I guess fall break slowed the flow of information.
The board found out last week but I don't talk to anyone at the board when school isn't in session.
I got a text this morning when they broke the news at the school.
10-17-2011, 11:19 PM
zaga_fan Wrote:I don't remember what good point I made...
other than the fact that if the Cordia kids were eligible than this kid should be lol
However....
each situation is different and the KHSAA has the final say.
That woulda been the point. I wasnt gonna say it.... Cordia might beat us, Ill buy a house on the creek then!!
10-17-2011, 11:44 PM
Irish Wrote:According to a source in Jamestown, to the best of their knowledge, Jaysean was eligible to play this year so I don't know why this even came up. I do not know what the official reason for his ineligibility, but I would be surprised if it was ineligibility to play in NYS. I know a lot of you maintain that I am a hater but that is not true -- just realistic and in the "second row" as far as information goes. I also heard a story about the reason he was there was for credit recovery. He didn't need to leave NYS for that which makes it look very suspect. The Logan, WV school already enrolled a WNY "transfer" so it might have looked like recruiting to Logan to have 2 "transfers" show up from WNY.
He had plenty of exposure in NYS, the University of Buffalo b'ball coach, Reggie Witherspoon watched him play many times and they are D-1. How come no other D-1 schools are recruiting him? I hate to say it, but he is a liability because as another poster said, he would not be any good to a team sitting on the bench. You still have to be a complete package for D-1: school is part of it. And don't start with shame on J'Town -- they worked really hard to keep him eligible to play but when the season is over, maybe he didn't care. It is always up to the player to be accountable for themselves.
If appealing the ruling turns out in his favor as another poster mentioned, good for him. It would be a shame to have his "senior" year wasted based on promises. Karma can be a b_ _ _ch.
:Sad04:
Bylaw 6 is the transfer rule for domestic transfers.
You have to sit out a year unless you meet one of 9 criteria.
a) BONA FIDE CHANGE IN RESIDENCE
b) DIVORCE-
c) CHANGE OF CUSTODY
d) DEATH
e) BOARDING SCHOOL
f) NON ATHLETIC PARTICIPATION FOR THE PRIOR SCHOOL YEAR
g) REASSIGNMENT BY BOARD OF EDUCATION
h) TRANSFER FROM NON-MEMBER SCHOOL(in-state)
i) MILITARY ASSIGNMENT
Obviously he meets the first criteria.
So according to that he would be eligible...
BUT!
There are exceptions.
The exception that usually comes into play is...
If the change in schools is motivated in whole or or part by a desire
to participate in athletics at the new school
This is the one the I was told stopped him from playing.
A student is ineligible for athletics in this state if he or she
transfers from another state if the student was or would have
become ineligible in the state from which he or she transfers.
The likelihood of the first one being the issue after all of these out-of-state transfers across the creek were ruled eligible makes me think that the ineligibility in NYS is actually what caused it.
However, I'm just relaying info that I'm given by representatives from the school that are willing to share info.
If I saw it on paper I would tell you guys exactly what stopped it.
10-17-2011, 11:58 PM
All I gotta say is that its a sad day for a young man that is so talented and cannot showcase any of that Talent.
10-18-2011, 12:39 AM
Cordia recruits from Texas to Canada and gets everybody eligible, while we can't get one player eligible. So much bullshit.
10-18-2011, 12:46 AM
This is a joke he should not be rules ineligible especially with all the players that have gotten eligible over the past 5 years..Total Bullshit!
10-18-2011, 01:25 AM
Jaysean will get eligible and the last person I know to be ruled ineligible then appealed and became eligible was Corey Martin at PCC. KHSAA has ruled Jaysean ineligible without hearing anything from Perry Central's side. After the appeal, which is when PCC will get to have their lawyer talk who has I think won an appeal 7 out of the 8 times he's been involved in one, Jaysean will be eligible
10-18-2011, 01:27 AM
Lets hope soo.
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