[PEOPLESCHAMP]

Somerset didn't have anybody that could stop Olinger or Johnson on the outside,the offensive coach just refused to throw them the ball.Johnson got one pass,Olinger didn't get any.If you coach and try to please everybody on offense you lose games you should win.

Isnt Olinger #1? He had a few good catches tonight.

[Legendary]

good job jumpers. I love seeing a bullpup go down.

[McCameraMan]

Congrats Somerset!

[bac2369]

This was one of those games if you like defense it was a perfect game to be at.
First off congrads to Somerset on a tough and hard fought win.

Im going to give you my perspective of this game right here as i saw it.. This is going to be full of these what ifs. Some I might as well start it. From start to end if Hazard scores on every series they drove down into the red zone then the bulldogs would of won handily. But thats not the case. Hazard shot themselves in the foot many times and let there attitudes loses this game for them. Hazard looked extremely good the first half and then pretty much died afterwards. Somerset the first half only had one big play for 50 yards on a screen to wilson but later turned it over on a interception. Second half Hazard attitude and being a little undisplined got them in major trouble. And Hazard pretty much completely died out. Somerset in the 2nd half made the adjustsment in the defense to keep that deep ball contained. They also picked apart the mental mistake hazard made with the young safety letting a reciever get behind him setting up somersets only offensive touchdown. Then on the ensuing kickoff kicked an onside kick and recovered it and that pretty much broke the camels back. Both of these teams will be fine as the season progress but this games shows you when two really good teams get together its usually a low scoring event if the defenses step up.

There is one thing Hazard must do when in the red zone is put it in there playmakers hands if it calls for running the wild bulldog or whatever you call it or making a quick fade route for your recievers. The QB definately has a good arm but in the red zone its like he just couldnt do anything with those short passes.

One thing for Somerset is there pass coverage must get better against a good passing attack earlier before the playoffs or they will find themselves down a couple of scores. If Hazard converted on there plays then you would of had an L instead of W.

Hopefully I havent offended anyone but some might take this to hear when i say this Hazard was the better team even though they lost this game but the better team doesnt always win. Somerset showed that Displine and hard work will carry you as they grinded out a well deserved win.

[KentuckyFan35]

Quick note to the Somerset fans on here. When you go to Perry Central on Oct. 28th if you have this same crew of officials you will get slaughtered! Your coaches better start blackballing now! I don't know all of them but most went to PCC and have kin playing for PCC!

[Bear_Paw]

The last time they were shutout was againt Harlan on August 25th, 2006. Harlan won 34-0.

I was present and accounted for at that game.........

[ekff]

This was one of those games if you like defense it was a perfect game to be at.
First off congrads to Somerset on a tough and hard fought win.

Im going to give you my perspective of this game right here as i saw it.. This is going to be full of these what ifs. Some I might as well start it. From start to end if Hazard scores on every series they drove down into the red zone then the bulldogs would of won handily. But thats not the case. Hazard shot themselves in the foot many times and let there attitudes loses this game for them. Hazard looked extremely good the first half and then pretty much died afterwards. Somerset the first half only had one big play for 50 yards on a screen to wilson but later turned it over on a interception. Second half Hazard attitude and being a little undisplined got them in major trouble. And Hazard pretty much completely died out. Somerset in the 2nd half made the adjustsment in the defense to keep that deep ball contained. They also picked apart the mental mistake hazard made with the young safety letting a reciever get behind him setting up somersets only offensive touchdown. Then on the ensuing kickoff kicked an onside kick and recovered it and that pretty much broke the camels back. Both of these teams will be fine as the season progress but this games shows you when two really good teams get together its usually a low scoring event if the defenses step up.

There is one thing Hazard must do when in the red zone is put it in there playmakers hands if it calls for running the wild bulldog or whatever you call it or making a quick fade route for your recievers. The QB definately has a good arm but in the red zone its like he just couldnt do anything with those short passes.

One thing for Somerset is there pass coverage must get better against a good passing attack earlier before the playoffs or they will find themselves down a couple of scores. If Hazard converted on there plays then you would of had an L instead of W.

Hopefully I havent offended anyone but some might take this to hear when i say this Hazard was the better team even though they lost this game but the better team doesnt always win. Somerset showed that Displine and hard work will carry you as they grinded out a well deserved win.

Good Post

[Aslan]

good job jumpers. I love seeing a bullpup go down.

:Thumbs:

[MayfieldCardinal]

The last time they were shutout was againt Harlan on August 25th, 2006. Harlan won 34-0.

So what can we learn from this game? Is Haz a #3 or #4 in 1A?

Back in December they were allowed to score by the mercey of their opponet.

[geauxtigers75]

Quick note to the Somerset fans on here. When you go to Perry Central on Oct. 28th if you have this same crew of officials you will get slaughtered! Your coaches better start blackballing now! I don't know all of them but most went to PCC and have kin playing for PCC!

:dudecomeon:

[bac2369]

So what can we learn from this game? Is Haz a #3 or #4 in 1A?

Back in December they were allowed to score by the mercey of their opponet.

There very worthy of the 3 or 4 spot. Defense only allowed one offensive touchdown from a high powered jumpers offense. If Hazard scores everytime the drove to the red zone then hazard wins handily. Somersets defense held as a young inexperienced QB showed.

[RoShamBo]

The 2nd half proved who the better team was, and the final score.

[RoShamBo]

If IFs were worth a point you guys might have won. Defense and discipline are what kept you out of the end zone, not the refs and not bad luck. You had a 3rd and goal on the two and a 4th and goal on the two, no points.

[Aslan]

If IFs were worth a point you guys might have won. Defense and discipline are what kept you out of the end zone, not the refs and not bad luck. You had a 3rd and goal on the two and a 4th and goal on the two, no points.

irateSho

[zaga_fan]

If IFs were worth a point you guys might have won. Defense and discipline are what kept you out of the end zone, not the refs and not bad luck. You had a 3rd and goal on the two and a 4th and goal on the two, no points.

:betterthanexpected:

[bac2369]

If IFs were worth a point you guys might have won. Defense and discipline are what kept you out of the end zone, not the refs and not bad luck. You had a 3rd and goal on the two and a 4th and goal on the two, no points.

I agree.Somersets goal line defense was very good holding hazard everytime.

[Norm Peterson]

Very bad play calls in the red zone the entire game.This was a game that Hazard should have won,they were the better team.

This was the worst I've seen Hazard look since 2006.... Hazard players and coaches didn't show up really tonight... Somerset scored first TD on a blocked FG...

This was just very very very UGLY.... Somerset didn't look too good also, Hazard had 3 INT's on Somerset..

But the stories of this game was FLAG'S and REDZONE.....

Hazard had 4 turnovers in the redzone and a blocked FG... I'm not saying Hazard got cheated because they didn't but the refs did make a few bad calls and Hazard players and coaches then got unsportsman called..... I believe 4 times (2 players, 2 coaches)...

Hazard just looked like $hit... I just guess it was a good day to play Hazard.... IMO: Hazard was better.... Perry and Breathitt will both beat Somerset

This was one of those games if you like defense it was a perfect game to be at.
First off congrads to Somerset on a tough and hard fought win.

Im going to give you my perspective of this game right here as i saw it.. This is going to be full of these what ifs. Some I might as well start it. From start to end if Hazard scores on every series they drove down into the red zone then the bulldogs would of won handily. But thats not the case. Hazard shot themselves in the foot many times and let there attitudes loses this game for them. Hazard looked extremely good the first half and then pretty much died afterwards. Somerset the first half only had one big play for 50 yards on a screen to wilson but later turned it over on a interception. Second half Hazard attitude and being a little undisplined got them in major trouble. And Hazard pretty much completely died out. Somerset in the 2nd half made the adjustsment in the defense to keep that deep ball contained. They also picked apart the mental mistake hazard made with the young safety letting a reciever get behind him setting up somersets only offensive touchdown. Then on the ensuing kickoff kicked an onside kick and recovered it and that pretty much broke the camels back. Both of these teams will be fine as the season progress but this games shows you when two really good teams get together its usually a low scoring event if the defenses step up.

There is one thing Hazard must do when in the red zone is put it in there playmakers hands if it calls for running the wild bulldog or whatever you call it or making a quick fade route for your recievers. The QB definately has a good arm but in the red zone its like he just couldnt do anything with those short passes.

One thing for Somerset is there pass coverage must get better against a good passing attack earlier before the playoffs or they will find themselves down a couple of scores. If Hazard converted on there plays then you would of had an L instead of W.

Hopefully I havent offended anyone but some might take this to hear when i say this Hazard was the better team even though they lost this game but the better team doesnt always win. Somerset showed that Displine and hard work will carry you as they grinded out a well deserved win.

I love how a team that got shut out on it's home field is still claiming to be the better team. You keep saying that if Hazard scores every time that they got in the red zone then they would have won easily. It is easy for a fan to say that about their team and disregard what the other team did. Don't forget Somerset had the ball in the red zone 3 times themselves and came away with no points--a missed field goal, a botched hold on another field goal and an interception. If the Briar Jumpers convert those into touchdowns then they win 35-0, would Hazard have been claiming to be the better team then? Both teams made mistakes in the red zone but several of those mistakes were caused by the defenses. I will agree that Hazard has more depth of quality at the skill positions. I don't think they have anyone as good at receiver as Storm Wilson but they are better at the other receiver spots. I don't think they have anyone at running back better than Alex Lange but they have 2-3 kids that are very close and maybe just as good. However, Somerset won the game up front--both on offense and defense. That is one big reason that Somerset was able to keep Hazard out of the end zone the whole game. Hazard was able to make some nice plays between the 20's, particularly on the long ball. When they got inside the 20 however they simply could not run the ball on the Briar Jumpers and Somerset was able to get enough pressure on the quarterback to force some bad throws--including the interception. In the second half the Briar Jumpers were able to run the ball much better on the Bulldogs. The running game was what enabled Storm to get single coverage on his touchdown. Somerset had been gouging Hazard on the ground on that drive and eventually they pulled enough people in the box so that Lange could get the ball to Wilson over the top. Also, at least a couple of the fumbles and dropped passes were caused by big hits by the Briar Jumpers--it wasn't like they were just laying it on the ground. Having discipline is part of being a good team as well--Hazard certainly was lacking there last night. It takes more than just having the better athletes to have the better team. I will give you that Hazard was overall more athletic at the skill positions last night. However, they were not more physical, more disciplined, better conditioned or better coached--it takes all of the above to be the better team. The scoreboard doesn't lie.

[RoShamBo]

Nailed it Norm.

[bac2369]

I love how a team that got shut out on it's home field is still claiming to be the better team. You keep saying that if Hazard scores every time that they got in the red zone then they would have won easily. It is easy for a fan to say that about their team and disregard what the other team did. Don't forget Somerset had the ball in the red zone 3 times themselves and came away with no points--a missed field goal, a botched hold on another field goal and an interception. If the Briar Jumpers convert those into touchdowns then they win 35-0, would Hazard have been claiming to be the better team then? Both teams made mistakes in the red zone but several of those mistakes were caused by the defenses. I will agree that Hazard has more depth of quality at the skill positions. I don't think they have anyone as good at receiver as Storm Wilson but they are better at the other receiver spots. I don't think they have anyone at running back better than Alex Lange but they have 2-3 kids that are very close and maybe just as good. However, Somerset won the game up front--both on offense and defense. That is one big reason that Somerset was able to keep Hazard out of the end zone the whole game. Hazard was able to make some nice plays between the 20's, particularly on the long ball. When they got inside the 20 however they simply could not run the ball on the Briar Jumpers and Somerset was able to get enough pressure on the quarterback to force some bad throws--including the interception. In the second half the Briar Jumpers were able to run the ball much better on the Bulldogs. The running game was what enabled Storm to get single coverage on his touchdown. Somerset had been gouging Hazard on the ground on that drive and eventually they pulled enough people in the box so that Lange could get the ball to Wilson over the top. Also, at least a couple of the fumbles and dropped passes were caused by big hits by the Briar Jumpers--it wasn't like they were just laying it on the ground. Having discipline is part of being a good team as well--Hazard certainly was lacking there last night. It takes more than just having the better athletes to have the better team. I will give you that Hazard was overall more athletic at the skill positions last night. However, they were not more physical, more disciplined, better conditioned or better coached--it takes all of the above to be the better team. The scoreboard doesn't lie.

Offensively you tell me what stood out for Somerset last night? They had a screen play the first half on a 3rd down that was very impressive and they grinded it out with a tough running game and mixing in a few pass in the 2nd half. One offensive touchdown from a team that was putting up 30-40 points in its first two games. I must say those two games was against quality opponents as well and to be cut down to one touchdown is a big difference.
That statement for there team, I have no team and just a spectator as i graduated from PCC and not Hazard . Yes both teams did make turnovers in the redzone and yes if both of these convert it as well could of been that way. I also never disregard anything that somerset did as I have not once said like ive seen on here about the refs with calling this and that. I give credit were it was due and no one can say I didnt.
I agree Wilson is an Excellent Reciever but to say Hazard has no one as good as wilson is way off base because Hazard returned 3 recievers from last there that had big time yardage in Olinger, Combs and Johnson. I will say this though about Storm Wilson he is very elusive and fast and that makes him dangerous to take it to the house at anytime. Now to Lange the QB , He needs to stay at the running back position because hes more of a runner than a passer but I go agree to let him QB in the red zone because the ball is always in a playmakers hands.
Somersets touchdown was perfect like you said as they set hazard up for a little play action and got the reciever behind the defense for the touchdown.
I agree Somerset won the game on better coaching,defense, displine.

I do want to ask you a question from last year and would like an honest answer. Do you think you was the better team last year against Belfry?

[LeeCoUKFan]

I was present and accounted for at that game.........

Did you just go to the game or did you play in the game?

[LeeCoUKFan]

So what can we learn from this game? Is Haz a #3 or #4 in 1A?

Back in December they were allowed to score by the mercey of their opponet.

I think that Hazard is still deserving of the 3 or 4 spot in 1A because Somerset is VERY good this year!

[LeeCoUKFan]

Good Post

Sooo....where is that lovely Perry Central avatar ekff?? :lmao:

[Daniel_BellCo]

Congrats to somerset on a big win!!

[Norm Peterson]

Offensively you tell me what stood out for Somerset last night? They had a screen play the first half on a 3rd down that was very impressive and they grinded it out with a tough running game and mixing in a few pass in the 2nd half. One offensive touchdown from a team that was putting up 30-40 points in its first two games. I must say those two games was against quality opponents as well and to be cut down to one touchdown is a big difference.
That statement for there team, I have no team and just a spectator as i graduated from PCC and not Hazard . Yes both teams did make turnovers in the redzone and yes if both of these convert it as well could of been that way. I also never disregard anything that somerset did as I have not once said like ive seen on here about the refs with calling this and that. I give credit were it was due and no one can say I didnt.
I agree Wilson is an Excellent Reciever but to say Hazard has no one as good as wilson is way off base because Hazard returned 3 recievers from last there that had big time yardage in Olinger, Combs and Johnson. I will say this though about Storm Wilson he is very elusive and fast and that makes him dangerous to take it to the house at anytime. Now to Lange the QB , He needs to stay at the running back position because hes more of a runner than a passer but I go agree to let him QB in the red zone because the ball is always in a playmakers hands.
Somersets touchdown was perfect like you said as they set hazard up for a little play action and got the reciever behind the defense for the touchdown.
I agree Somerset won the game on better coaching,defense, displine.

I do want to ask you a question from last year and would like an honest answer. Do you think you was the better team last year against Belfry?

Overall? Maybe just a shade better. However, Storm Wilson had an appendectomy on Wednesday before the game and did not play in the first half when our offense sputtered in the red zone. Also, the game being at Belfry was a huge advantage for the Pirates as well. If the two teams had played in August or September in Somerset I'd have taken the Briar Jumpers by a couple of scores. At the end of the season, at Belfry with a limited Storm Wilson I think the talent levels were very close.

I do feel like Storm Wilson was the best receiver on the field last night. He can beat you over the top, on screens, in the return game and even out of the backfield. Olinger was impressive as well but I feel like Wilson is better--it's just an opinion. Since he has been voted to to the all-state team 2 seasons in a row I think several share my opinion.

I never said that Somerset was impressive last night. They struggled most of the night. Much of that credit has to go to Hazard, especially their secondary. However, when Somerset needed to drive it down the field to get a touchdown to make it a 2 score game they were able to do so. Hazard was not able to get it done when they needed to. The only plays that they really hurt the Jumpers with all night were deep fades--and those quit being effective once a couple of personnel changes were made. Like I said, it takes more than just better athletes to be the better team. If all it took was better athletes then Highlands wouldn't have nearly as many state titles and teams like Dunbar would rule 6A.

[bac2369]

Overall? Maybe just a shade better. However, Storm Wilson had an appendectomy on Wednesday before the game and did not play in the first half when our offense sputtered in the red zone. Also, the game being at Belfry was a huge advantage for the Pirates as well. If the two teams had played in August or September in Somerset I'd have taken the Briar Jumpers by a couple of scores. At the end of the season, at Belfry with a limited Storm Wilson I think the talent levels were very close.

I do feel like Storm Wilson was the best receiver on the field last night. He can beat you over the top, on screens, in the return game and even out of the backfield. Olinger was impressive as well but I feel like Wilson is better--it's just an opinion. Since he has been voted to to the all-state team 2 seasons in a row I think several share my opinion.

I never said that Somerset was impressive last night. They struggled most of the night. Much of that credit has to go to Hazard, especially their secondary. However, when Somerset needed to drive it down the field to get a touchdown to make it a 2 score game they were able to do so. Hazard was not able to get it done when they needed to. The only plays that they really hurt the Jumpers with all night were deep fades--and those quit being effective once a couple of personnel changes were made. Like I said, it takes more than just better athletes to be the better team. If all it took was better athletes then Highlands wouldn't have nearly as many state titles and teams like Dunbar would rule 6A.

I agree playing Belfry at Belfry was a big time advantage during this game last year. Somerset was lucky to get past breathitt the game before as Somersets Defense give up almost 300 yards on the ground and almost 150 through the air and still mananged to win the game. Oh by the way who caught that screen pass for 50 yards in the first half. I think it was # 8 and isnt Wilson # 8. He may off seen limited time in the first half but he was on the field for somerset. Wilson should be voted to the all state team two years in a row because he has been the main target in the jumpers offense.

I agree the fades and deep routes hurting somerset but they made adjustment the 2nd half changing to a 3-4 and putting 2 safetys back deep.I also never said better athletes make you a better team, it just makes you hard to defend. I agree Highlands is on top because of coaching,disipline and hard work.

Heres another question Norm. Do you think Lange needs to be QB or RB and let the Gabury kid run the offense? However i agree he needs the ball in the redzone because hes a playmaker.

[Aslan]

I love how a team that got shut out on it's home field is still claiming to be the better team. You keep saying that if Hazard scores every time that they got in the red zone then they would have won easily. It is easy for a fan to say that about their team and disregard what the other team did. Don't forget Somerset had the ball in the red zone 3 times themselves and came away with no points--a missed field goal, a botched hold on another field goal and an interception. If the Briar Jumpers convert those into touchdowns then they win 35-0, would Hazard have been claiming to be the better team then? Both teams made mistakes in the red zone but several of those mistakes were caused by the defenses. I will agree that Hazard has more depth of quality at the skill positions. I don't think they have anyone as good at receiver as Storm Wilson but they are better at the other receiver spots. I don't think they have anyone at running back better than Alex Lange but they have 2-3 kids that are very close and maybe just as good. However, Somerset won the game up front--both on offense and defense. That is one big reason that Somerset was able to keep Hazard out of the end zone the whole game. Hazard was able to make some nice plays between the 20's, particularly on the long ball. When they got inside the 20 however they simply could not run the ball on the Briar Jumpers and Somerset was able to get enough pressure on the quarterback to force some bad throws--including the interception. In the second half the Briar Jumpers were able to run the ball much better on the Bulldogs. The running game was what enabled Storm to get single coverage on his touchdown. Somerset had been gouging Hazard on the ground on that drive and eventually they pulled enough people in the box so that Lange could get the ball to Wilson over the top. Also, at least a couple of the fumbles and dropped passes were caused by big hits by the Briar Jumpers--it wasn't like they were just laying it on the ground. Having discipline is part of being a good team as well--Hazard certainly was lacking there last night. It takes more than just having the better athletes to have the better team. I will give you that Hazard was overall more athletic at the skill positions last night. However, they were not more physical, more disciplined, better conditioned or better coached--it takes all of the above to be the better team. The scoreboard doesn't lie.

Beautiful.

Sooo....where is that lovely Perry Central avatar ekff?? :lmao:

Yes!

[Norm Peterson]

I agree playing Belfry at Belfry was a big time advantage during this game last year. Somerset was lucky to get past breathitt the game before as Somersets Defense give up almost 300 yards on the ground and almost 150 through the air and still mananged to win the game. Oh by the way who caught that screen pass for 50 yards in the first half. I think it was # 8 and isnt Wilson # 8. He may off seen limited time in the first half but he was on the field for somerset. Wilson should be voted to the all state team two years in a row because he has been the main target in the jumpers offense.

I agree the fades and deep routes hurting somerset but they made adjustment the 2nd half changing to a 3-4 and putting 2 safetys back deep.I also never said better athletes make you a better team, it just makes you hard to defend. I agree Highlands is on top because of coaching,disipline and hard work.

Heres another question Norm. Do you think Lange needs to be QB or RB and let the Gabury kid run the offense? However i agree he needs the ball in the redzone because hes a playmaker.

Are you talking about this year against Hazard or last year against Belfry? Storm did not play in the first half at all against Belfry last season--that is when he had the appendectomy. That is one of the things that really hurt us in that game. Last night he played the whole game up until he was injured breaking up a Hazard pass with a big hit.

As for the quarterback position I think the ideal situation is for Gadberry to take the majority of the snaps. It helps us if the defense doesn't know where Lange is going to be on each snap. I think as the season goes along that you will see this happen. One thing to note, if Alex's brother Will stays healthy he will make a huge impact in the backfield as well.

[bac2369]

Are you talking about this year against Hazard or last year against Belfry? Storm did not play in the first half at all against Belfry last season--that is when he had the appendectomy. That is one of the things that really hurt us in that game. Last night he played the whole game up until he was injured breaking up a Hazard pass with a big hit.

As for the quarterback position I think the ideal situation is for Gadberry to take the majority of the snaps. It helps us if the defense doesn't know where Lange is going to be on each snap. I think as the season goes along that you will see this happen. One thing to note, if Alex's brother Will stays healthy he will make a huge impact in the backfield as well.

Ok I misunderstood you as i thought you was talking about this game? Somerset will also be better defensively if the other slaughter boy gets back. I must warn Somerset though there last game against PCC will be very similar to Hazard but PCC may have a little more playmakers than Hazard does. I know that game is way later in the season but somerset has time to get better on the fades and deep routes.

[Jumper Dad]

I think Sabo threw 2 flags all night, pass interference against Somerset after Olinger made a great catch, and a defensive hold against Somerset on 4th down late in the game giving Hazard a fresh set of downs. If anything I think you all need to send him another check.

That flag came out on the opposite side of the field from the play and seemed to not come out until after the pass had hit the ground on the opposite side, but it could have been legit I as everyone else was, was watching the other side of the field at the time.

[excyter21]

Congrats Somerset