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#31
sstack: How many Highlands football players play multiple sports? Many schools had to start these in school (practical living classes under the core content) because just about all of their skill kids play another sport.
#32
LClion4life Wrote:It wasn't necessarily about Highlands either. It was about all public schools. Rose Hill was caught and punished. The evidence against Pike Central is overwhelming. My exact words were, "You seriously think that just because they are a public school that they don't recruit? Not saying that they do, but that is funny." It was aimed toward all public schools across the state. To say that there are 0 public schools in this state that recruit and get away with it is foolish.
It is foolish to think it isn't done but if you have evidence report it.
#33
DDP5 Wrote:sstack: How many Highlands football players play multiple sports? Many schools had to start these in school (practical living classes under the core content) because just about all of their skill kids play another sport.

Towles went straight from a football championship to a so-so basketball team. So it's not like the school restricts it's players. There just are not that many students to think HHS is just a football factory. These kids play other sports too. People have confused the Birds as "big" school. They are not a 5A school, they played up, not where they student body count allowed.
#34
Oh I understand their numbers are are 3A size playing up and have an extremely high percentage of male members of the school who play which I think speaks testaments about their program. I was just curious to how many of those kids only play the one sport. I'm in now way of criticizing Dale for not sharing players because he is a class act I couldn't imagine him denying a kid to play another sport. With the number of top notch athletes that participate in football I would imagine if they chose to play another sport we would hear more about the success of basketball and baseball teams.
#35
DDP5 Wrote:Oh I understand their numbers are are 3A size playing up and have an extremely high percentage of male members of the school who play which I think speaks testaments about their program. I was just curious to how many of those kids only play the one sport. I'm in now way of criticizing Dale for not sharing players because he is a class act I couldn't imagine him denying a kid to play another sport. With the number of top notch athletes that participate in football I would imagine if they chose to play another sport we would hear more about the success of basketball and baseball teams.

Football players are allowed to play other sports, but alot choose to play just football. Baseball has never been a big sport at Highlands, and Basketball has had some very good teams over the years with many trips to the sweet sixteen. There have been a decline in multiple sport stars lately, but that is due to the athletes choice. I know the track team has taken a heavy hit due to football players not participating. I think the football coach is fine with them playing other sports, but I do not think he is pushing them to play other sports.
#36
sstack Wrote:Glad to see our KY schools stressing academics. At Highlands it is done before or after school because academics is top priority. Smart kids make smart football players.

Give me a break and get off your high horse.
It counts as a PE credit just as any other school would make you take.
By you belittling kids you dont even know, you show your ignorance in plain view.
#37
owen county has adv pe for anybody but mostly football and bb player do it
#38
Rockcastle has it for football and basketball. Nothing wrong with it IMO>
#39
RunItUpTheGut Wrote:Give me a break and get off your high horse.
It counts as a PE credit just as any other school would make you take.
By you belittling kids you dont even know, you show your ignorance in plain view.
Get off my high horse? Not sure why you are so taken by my posts. I just do not want my kids wasting their time at school taking PE. They are involved in a ton of physical activities outside of school and should be spending school time on academics.
Is it a requirement at your school, or other schools in KY? I never took a PE class in high school and not even sure if one was offered. I also do not know of any athletes who did. Maybe it has changed since I attended, but I do not think Highlands makes PE mandatory (maybe someone with high school kids their can enlighten us; my kids are in middle school and only take one quarter of PE a year,which is required). Not belittling the kids but the parents and schools; have them take academic courses to prepare for college and life! I believe you are showing your ignorance by wanting your high school kids to be taking PE, instead of academic classes. This is why parents send their kids to HHS, and why it is one of the top academic schools in the state; THEY STRESS ACADEMICS!
#40
sstack Wrote:Get off my high horse? Not sure why you are so taken by my posts. I just do not want my kids wasting their time at school taking PE. They are involved in a ton of physical activities outside of school and should be spending school time on academics.
Is it a requirement at your school, or other schools in KY? I never took a PE class in high school and not even sure if one was offered. I also do not know of any athletes who did. Maybe it has changed since I attended, but I do not think Highlands makes PE mandatory (maybe someone with high school kids their can enlighten us; my kids are in middle school and only take one quarter of PE a year,which is required). Not belittling the kids but the parents and schools; have them take academic courses to prepare for college and life! I believe you are showing your ignorance by wanting your high school kids to be taking PE, instead of academic classes. This is why parents send their kids to HHS, and why it is one of the top academic schools in the state; THEY STRESS ACADEMICS!

taking an advanced PE class(which was the name of the class the athletes took when i went to school) does not mean that you are settling in academics. i just recently looked through my year book and noticed my fellow students who graduated with honors, over 1/2 played sports and took advanced PE. one finished top in his class, was the starting center for the football team and had a perfect score on the ACT's. taking 1 class out of 6 thats focus is athletics does not make one ignorant.
#41
sstack Wrote:Get off my high horse? Not sure why you are so taken by my posts. I just do not want my kids wasting their time at school taking PE. They are involved in a ton of physical activities outside of school and should be spending school time on academics.
Is it a requirement at your school, or other schools in KY? I never took a PE class in high school and not even sure if one was offered. I also do not know of any athletes who did. Maybe it has changed since I attended, but I do not think Highlands makes PE mandatory (maybe someone with high school kids their can enlighten us; my kids are in middle school and only take one quarter of PE a year,which is required). Not belittling the kids but the parents and schools; have them take academic courses to prepare for college and life! I believe you are showing your ignorance by wanting your high school kids to be taking PE, instead of academic classes. This is why parents send their kids to HHS, and why it is one of the top academic schools in the state; THEY STRESS ACADEMICS!

Yes its a requirement at the school i attended and ive never heard of one where PE is not required.
Just because schools like Whitley has kids, particularly football players, taking conditioning every semester in high school except for one or two, its their choice. Just like other schools there is AP classes as well as the jump start program with Eastern where they can start college early.
Im not real sure how i can be showing my ignorance. I took conditioning every semester i was in high school except for one when i had to take health and I along with every other senior football player i graduated with except for 2 out of the 11 graduated from college. I guess taking conditioning really hurt my future considering i have two degrees and will have a masters in may.
I understand HHS is one of the best academic schools in the state, Ive heard that many times, but never once did i say they weren't, however, you did claim that by taking all of those conditioning classes that students would be lacking the academic success you spoke of.
#42
If anything, there ought to be more PE in all grades. Look around and you can see why. I believe it was Teddy Rooselvelt's dad who said "In order to develop a strong mind, you have to have a strong body". As a former teacher and coach, I stressed academics along with maintaining a healthy body. A good number of our school's athletes were also some of our best students. Take a good look at our kids today and honestly tell the world they do not need some type of PE, if it's weightlifting, so be it. I am in my early sixties and lift everyday. I would encourage you to do the same.
#43
johnnyt Wrote:taking an advanced PE class(which was the name of the class the athletes took when i went to school) does not mean that you are settling in academics. i just recently looked through my year book and noticed my fellow students who graduated with honors, over 1/2 played sports and took advanced PE. one finished top in his class, was the starting center for the football team and had a perfect score on the ACT's. taking 1 class out of 6 thats focus is athletics does not make one ignorant.

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#44
I truly believe that if they did a study, healthier and more active students would be your best academic students.
It always appears that your sports players and fit kids are better at academics, dont know how or why, but it seems its a growing trend.
#45
RunItUpTheGut Wrote:I truly believe that if they did a study, healthier and more active students would be your best academic students.
It always appears that your sports players and fit kids are better at academics, dont know how or why, but it seems its a growing trend.

I had plenty of friends take Wellness all 4 years of high school, score a 28 or better on the ACT, and maintain at least a 3.75 GPA. And go to a great university or college and graduate.
#46
RunItUpTheGut Wrote:I truly believe that if they did a study, healthier and more active students would be your best academic students.
It always appears that your sports players and fit kids are better at academics, dont know how or why, but it seems its a growing trend.

I totally agree with you, but do not think it needs to be done in school. My daughter runs 15-20 miles a week, 1-2 soccer practices a week, 1-2 soccer games a week, and biking/running around outside with friends during the week; do not see where a PE class is needed over a academic class. Most people taking PE are athletes like my daughter, get plenty of exercise, and are not the ones who need to be taking PE.
#47
Highlands has recruited plenty of players!
#48
sstack Wrote:I totally agree with you, but do not think it needs to be done in school. My daughter runs 15-20 miles a week, 1-2 soccer practices a week, 1-2 soccer games a week, and biking/running around outside with friends during the week; do not see where a PE class is needed over a academic class. Most people taking PE are athletes like my daughter, get plenty of exercise, and are not the ones who need to be taking PE.

What about the ones who weigh in about 350 and go home and play xbox all day and eat all night though.
Obviously there parents arent going to make them do anything, heck, it could save there life if they got a little exercise.
The Conditioning class at Whitley was much harder than the regular PE class, you had to lift weights every day and sometimes go out to the track and run.
In PE you learn and test over all kinds of different things. I remember they learned badminton and soccer and things most of us wouldnt play , and then at the end of there learning of a certain type of sport, they would have to take a written test over it.
#49
Having two sons that have graduated from Highlands and are now attending the Number 14th ranked private college in the country, I will say that they didn't need to take lifting class during school hours. In all honesty, the workout they received after school everyday lifting left little room for any other activity or fitness. To the point when we actually hired a trainer for a Saturday workout , he basically told us it was a waste of time because it was mostly spent stretching them out from the Highlands football winter workouts.:biggrin:
#50
Ashland has a great program if you play a sport you are required to take a weight lifting class for that sport. I know ashland Has 1st period weights for all lineman 5th period weights for all freshman and 7th period for skilled guys
#51
FYI

http://nky.cincinnati.com/article/AB/201...ompetition

FORT THOMAS – The We the People team from Highlands High School won the “We the People, Citizens and the Constitution” state championship on Monday.<SCRIPT id=__gelement_13 src="http://gannett.gcion.com/addyn/3.0/5111.1/896063/0/0/ADTECH;alias=oh-cincinnati.news/main/nky/article.htm_ArticleFlex_1;cookie=info;loc=100;target=_blank;grp=39365;misc=1296231840833;size=0;noperf=1;key=Highlands+team+wins+civics+competition;kvcw=;kvtitle=Highlands-team-wins-civics-competition"></SCRIPT>
This was the seventh consecutive year the team has won state, and eighth title overall.
The team will represent Kentucky in the national finals in Washington, D.C., from April 29 through May 2
#52
LClion4life Wrote:You seriously think that just because they are a public school that they don't recruit? :lmao: Not saying they do but that is funny. There are plenty of public in this state that do.

Ill say it,,,,Highlands recruits. However their reputation does it now,they dont have to beg for talent, it begs them.

A much broader problem is holding entire classes back. How do you play a team with 17-20 , 18 year young men that were held back in the eighth grade.

It cannot be in the best interest of all the kids, in a few cases I understand. But an entire class is pushing it to far. And everyone should know 2 schools who done it recently. I want to win as bad as anyone else, "But My hypocrisy does have limits"
#53
VikingFan Wrote:Ill say it,,,,Highlands recruits. However their reputation does it now,they dont have to beg for talent, it begs them.

A much broader problem is holding entire classes back. How do you play a team with 17-20 , 18 year young men that were held back in the eighth grade.

It cannot be in the best interest of all the kids, in a few cases I understand. But an entire class is pushing it to far. And everyone should know 2 schools who done it recently. I want to win as bad as anyone else, "But My hypocrisy does have limits"

Your first sentence is 100% correct! But I am not sure what schools you are talking about holding kids back? I hope you do not mean Highlands, because that does not happen.
#54
sstack Wrote:Glad to see our KY schools stressing academics. At Highlands it is done before or after school because academics is top priority. Smart kids make smart football players.

Compare living within a couple miles from school or having transportation and living 25 miles from school and not having transportation.
#55
HAT51 Wrote:Compare living within a couple miles from school or having transportation and living 25 miles from school and not having transportation.

Could not have said it better myself.
#56
HAT51 Wrote:Compare living within a couple miles from school or having transportation and living 25 miles from school and not having transportation.

That is a very good point, but still not worth giving up your academic classes for PE.
#57
corbin has a strength and conditioning class taught by steve jewell the head football coach
#58
sstack Wrote:Get off my high horse? Not sure why you are so taken by my posts. I just do not want my kids wasting their time at school taking PE. They are involved in a ton of physical activities outside of school and should be spending school time on academics.
Is it a requirement at your school, or other schools in KY? I never took a PE class in high school and not even sure if one was offered. I also do not know of any athletes who did. Maybe it has changed since I attended, but I do not think Highlands makes PE mandatory (maybe someone with high school kids their can enlighten us; my kids are in middle school and only take one quarter of PE a year,which is required). Not belittling the kids but the parents and schools; have them take academic courses to prepare for college and life! I believe you are showing your ignorance by wanting your high school kids to be taking PE, instead of academic classes. This is why parents send their kids to HHS, and why it is one of the top academic schools in the state; THEY STRESS ACADEMICS!

Kentucky state minimum graduation requirements list all students must have 1/2 credit in PE so are Highlands' student athletes ineligible for not meeting this basic requirement?
#59
hwy 58 Wrote:Kentucky state minimum graduation requirements list all students must have 1/2 credit in PE so are Highlands' student athletes ineligible for not meeting this basic requirement?

No, they take PE and health just like everyone else in the school. PE classes at Highlands tackle all aspects of living a healthy life. They learn about other sports. They play volleyball, softball, badmitten, etc. They don't spend an entire hour lifting weights for an entire year.
#60
sstack Wrote:Football players are allowed to play other sports, but alot choose to play just football. Baseball has never been a big sport at Highlands, and Basketball has had some very good teams over the years with many trips to the sweet sixteen. There have been a decline in multiple sport stars lately, but that is due to the athletes choice. I know the track team has taken a heavy hit due to football players not participating. I think the football coach is fine with them playing other sports, but I do not think he is pushing them to play other sports.

Many of the kids do not voluntarily choose just football. There is an inherent, invisible, and intangible power that compels these kids to commit to football and football alone. The powers that be have a duty to encourage the kids to play other sports in their brief high school career. I personally think that what is going on at Highlands is a shame and that many of the kids suffer including the other sports programs. Yes, kids like Towles play another sport but don't think that it's going to interfere with weights. Weights and Basketball do not mix. Did you ever try shooting the rock after an hour of chest and legs? I think some powers that be hang an invisible cloud over the kids that don't commit fully (heart and soul) to football and the kids feel the pressure. They say it's not there, but it is. I've spoken to too many people who's kids have been slighted in one way or another for this very reason. The athletic director should do a thorough investigation and examine every facet of the football program and it's impact on the children. They will not do this b/c they are afraid of what they'll find.

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