[Hoot Gibson]

BTW, I am for offshore drilling in the gulf, but not without guarantees that they are leak proof. This particular leak had that guarantee too though, how do they do it?

There is no such thing as a "guarantee" when it comes to mineral extraction, whether the mineral is oil, coal, or limestone. That is not how engineering works. The only way to be 100% certain that there will never be another oil leak is to stop drilling. Are you ready to ride a bike to work in exchange for a 100% guarantee of no more oil leaks in the gulf? Should we also stop mining coal, so that we can be 100% certain that no coal miners will ever die again in a methane explosion or roof fall?

BTW, I am riding a train to work. What is your mode of transportation? Without oil and coal, even trains and other mass public transit are impossible.

[dangerousdaneerfan]

After Bammy said today in his "once every 10 month" presser, he is suspending off shore drilling for 6 months. I hope you enjoyed gas two years ago when it was $4 per gallon. You will be overjoyed with it being $5 per gallon.

[BillyB]

After Bammy said today in his "once every 10 month" presser, he is suspending off shore drilling for 6 months. I hope you enjoyed gas two years ago when it was $4 per gallon. You will be overjoyed with it being $5 per gallon.

You know that's just a suspension of new drilling, right? All offshore drilling and extraction hasn't stopped.

[dangerousdaneerfan]

"President Obama, who planned to visit the gulf on Friday, ordered a suspension of virtually all current and new offshore oil drilling activity pending a comprehensive safety review, acknowledging that oversight until now had been seriously deficient.

His action halted planned exploratory wells in the Arctic due to be drilled this summer and planned lease sales off the coast of Virginia and in the Gulf of Mexico. It also halts work on 33 exploratory wells now being drilled in the gulf."

From CNBC

[PC_You_Know]

"President Obama, who planned to visit the gulf on Friday, ordered a suspension of virtually all current and new offshore oil drilling activity pending a comprehensive safety review, acknowledging that oversight until now had been seriously deficient.

His action halted planned exploratory wells in the Arctic due to be drilled this summer and planned lease sales off the coast of Virginia and in the Gulf of Mexico. It also halts work on 33 exploratory wells now being drilled in the gulf."

From CNBC

If true I guess I won't accept my summer job I applied for. Guess I'll just sit at the house and not waste my money having to drive down there every day. I can't imagine what will happen to this country if gas hits $5 a gallon.

[Hoot Gibson]

I am glad that I recently leased an apartment within walking distance of a metro train station. I can now get by without a car if I need to - at least until Obama kills the coal industry.

[Captain Backdoor]

If true I guess I won't accept my summer job I applied for. Guess I'll just sit at the house and not waste my money having to drive down there every day. I can't imagine what will happen to this country if gas hits $5 a gallon.

You are exactly right Sir. The gas prices are one of the main reasons this country is in the shape its in now.

[TheRealVille]

Not looking good at stopping the biggest oil spill in US history.

[TheRealVille]

Bp now acknowledging that the flow rate is probably somewhere between 504-588 thousand gallons a day.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100530/ap_o..._estimates

[Uncle Fester]

I don't think gas is going to go up. Only 30% of our oil comes from the gulf, and I still believe that all others will continue to work at full speed.

[TheRealVille]

I don't think gas is going to go up. Only 30% of our oil comes from the gulf, and I still believe that all others will continue to work at full speed.

It's been going down around here.

[TheRealVille]

Lol - do you even know what you are talking about? There is 50 times more natural oil drifts from natural secretion into the ocean per year than what man has created in a lifetime. I love to see those who are so educated in a subject just throw our statements with ZERO research!

You never did show us where a natural secretions, world wide, equaled 500k gallons a day SD. You seem to gotten very quite on this thread.

[TheRealVille]

I guess repubs want drilling at all costs, even destruction of the earth. Don't mind the people that might be a million years behind us.

[Wildcatk23]

Wasn't everyone for off shore drilling and now their blaming Obama?

Hoot said it his self that There not leak proof. But now point at Obama?

[Old School]

I guess repubs want drilling at all costs, even destruction of the earth. Don't mind the people that might be a million years behind us.

After all we have to have oil. Do we drill closer to the coast line or do we drill only on land?

What do you suggest we do?

Do we rely on others for our oil needs?

Some are blaming the environmental community for forcing oil companies into deep water drilling.

[Wildcatk23]

After all we have to have oil. Do we drill closer to the coast line or do we drill only on land?

What do you suggest we do?

Do we rely on others for our oil needs?

Some are blaming the environmental community for forcing oil companies into deep water drilling.

We Do need Oil.

Relying on others would raise gas prices tremendously correct?

[Hoot Gibson]

Wasn't everyone for off shore drilling and now their blaming Obama?

Hoot said it his self that There not leak proof. But now point at Obama?

I am not blaming Obama or his administration for the spill and had this happened 18 months ago, I would not have blamed the Bush administration either. However, if Nancy Pelosi and liberal Democrats are going to try to blame Bush, 18 months after Obama took over the White House, and several years since Democrats took control of Congress, then somebody needs to point the finger back in their direction.

I drove along the Gulf coast from Gulfport to New Orleans just a few weeks ago, and the area appeared to be recovering pretty well from Katrina, which was a natural disaster. Mississippi handled the aftermath of Katrina much better than Lousiana, where neither Ray Nagin nor the Democrat governor rose to the occasion. Bush was unfairly blamed for problems in Louisiana that he did not create.

Because the oil spill happened on a drill site leased from and regulated by the federal government, Obama is and should be at greater political risk for his handling of the aftermath of the spill.

Spills will happen and a thorough investigation needs to take place to learn whether best practices were followed and determine what part of the process needs to be improved to reduce the chances of similar spills in the future. If gross negligence or deliberate actions were taken contrary to acceptable industry practices, then the guilty parties must be punished.

If is outrageous that Pelosi and other Democrats are attempting to blame Bush for the spill - just as it was outrageous that they tried to absolve Nagin and Gov. Blanco of responsibility for the botched Katrina evacuation and cleanup in Louisiana. Liberals set a precedent in laying all the blame for the Katrina problems in Louisiana at President Bush's feet. Now they are going to have to live with the fact that Obama's image is going to take a major hit because the BP spill took place well into his watch. It is poetic justice at its finest.

[nky]

I guess rebus want drilling at all costs, even destruction of the earth. Don't mind the people that might be a million years behind us.

Quick Guess the quote and the plan author-

"The bottom line is this: Given our energy needs, in order to sustain economic growth and produce jobs and keep our businesses competitive, we are going to need to harness traditional sources of fuel even as we ramp up production of new sources of renewable, homegrown energy,"
The plan calls for exploration in areas from Delaware to off the coastline of central Florida, while keeping the East Coast from New Jersey northward closed to oil and gas development.The plan also calls for oil and gas exploration in the eastern Gulf of Mexico, more than 125 miles from Florida's coast, in areas that are currently under congressional moratorium and closed to development.

Was this the evil Republicans and their Drill baby drill mantra? nope:yikes:

Was this the tea party and the Sara Palin want to Be's?:please:

Who then? :eyeroll: Not the Democrats?hh: almost.

On March 31, 2010- President Obama:worthy: made those statements and unveiled his plan for offshore oil drilling.


By the way if we can't blame the current administration(been in office for 18 months) who oversees the agencies that oversees this type of offshore drilling. How can you blame President Bush's administration for 9/11 (only in office for 9 months)?:popcorn:

[Wildcatk23]

Quick Guess the quote and the plan author-

"The bottom line is this: Given our energy needs, in order to sustain economic growth and produce jobs and keep our businesses competitive, we are going to need to harness traditional sources of fuel even as we ramp up production of new sources of renewable, homegrown energy,"
The plan calls for exploration in areas from Delaware to off the coastline of central Florida, while keeping the East Coast from New Jersey northward closed to oil and gas development.The plan also calls for oil and gas exploration in the eastern Gulf of Mexico, more than 125 miles from Florida's coast, in areas that are currently under congressional moratorium and closed to development.

Was this the evil Republicans and their Drill baby drill mantra? nope:yikes:

Was this the tea party and the Sara Palin want to Be's?:please:

Who then? :eyeroll: Not the Democrats?hh: almost.

On March 31, 2010- President Obama:worthy: made those statements and unveiled his plan for offshore oil drilling.


By the way if we can't blame the current administration(been in office for 18 months) who oversees the agencies that oversees this type of offshore drilling. How can you blame President Bush's administration for 9/11 (only in office for 9 months)?:popcorn:

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[Wildcatk23]

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http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/05/...-incident/


BP Was Concerned About Well Control Six Weeks Before Incident

[Old School]

Will it take the blackening with oil of the entire gulf coast for the "Spill Baby Spill" idiots to get the picture?

I would like to see proof of this statement. We are at 5 million gallons and counting in the gulf. By Fathers day, if this keeps up we will be at Valdez amounts. All the parties involved keep blaming each other. Meanwhile, Spill, baby Spill.

So we can compare previous spills with the current BP spill. A deliberate spill by Iraqi forces 1991-2002 spilled 500 million gallons of oil. Average yearly spills, rigs and tankers, global, every year, 250 million gallons of oil spilled. In 1979, the Ixtoc 1 rig in the Gulf of Mexico spilled about 140 million gallons. Then the Amoco Cadiz, which is a ship, the English Channel, about 60 million. Torrey Canyon, south England, a ship, about 30 million. The Exxon Valdez was 11 million. And so far we're at about 25 or 30 million gallons;


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[TheRealVille]

New oil spill total is bad news for BP, wildlife
GRAND ISLE, La. – The astonishing news that the oil leak at the bottom of the sea may be twice as big as previously thought could have major repercussions for both the environment and BP's financial health, killing more marine life and dramatically increasing the amount the company must pay in fines and damages.
Scientists now say the blown-out well could have been spewing as much as 2 million gallons of crude before a cut-and-cap maneuver started capturing some of the flow, meaning more than 100 million gallons may have leaked into the Gulf of Mexico since the start of the disaster in April. That is more than nine times the size of the 1989 Exxon Valdez disaster, previously the worst oil spill in U.S. history.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100611/ap_o..._oil_spill

Spill,baby,Spill!! Those natural secretions must be spilling a big lot of oil into the oceans if they are 50 times more than the man made ones. Those "uneducated people" that post this stuff about man made oil spills without research kill me, right SD? LOL.

[TheRealVille]

So we can compare previous spills with the current BP spill. A deliberate spill by Iraqi forces 1991-2002 spilled 500 million gallons of oil. Average yearly spills, rigs and tankers, global, every year, 250 million gallons of oil spilled. In 1979, the Ixtoc 1 rig in the Gulf of Mexico spilled about 140 million gallons. Then the Amoco Cadiz, which is a ship, the English Channel, about 60 million. Torrey Canyon, south England, a ship, about 30 million. The Exxon Valdez was 11 million. And so far we're at about 25 or 30 million gallons;


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Ya think?

[Old School]

BTW, I am for offshore drilling in the gulf, but not without guarantees that they are leak proof. This particular leak had that guarantee too though, how do they do it?

Do you really think that something as complex as drilling a oil well four or five miles below the ocean floor in mile deep waters can be guaranted not to leak? Are you suggesting that if the oil wells can't be guaranted not to leak then they should not be drilled?

I know you are a propontent of nuclear power, if so you may want to check out all of the mishaps at US research facilities, power plants and processing/storage areas. http://www.lutins.org/nukes.html
If oil well drilling has to be guaranted, then shouldn't all phases of nuclear energy also be guaranted not to leak?

[Old School]

According to this article the WH misrepresented the view of engineers who prepared the report WH officals used to determine a moratorium was needed.

http://www.breitbart.tv/engineers-white-...oratorium/

[nky]

Hey Realville what's you're solution?

[TheRealVille]

Hey Realville what's you're solution?

It **** sure isn't drilling and spilling and killing everything in the Gulf, I'd rather buy it overseas, and pay for it. It's killing all life in the Gulf and destroying the fishing and all the tourist things along the Gulf.

[TheRealVille]

Hey Realville what's you're solution?

What's your solution? Drilling for oil at all cost, including life and tourist business? Typical Repub, make it cheap and easy, at all cost to future generations. Let "god" sort it out and save us by ending the world in a couple hundred years.

[nky]

We are a country that needs oil and oil by products. Yes off shore drilling needs to be done but in a safe manner. Did BP cut corners yes and need to be charged criminally for it. But to say we should stop is lunacy. Relying on and supporting the cheap oil of the middle east is insanity. Albert Einstein is credited for saying
Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. Our government needs to do it's job. If the last few years proves anything we have a bureaucracy that isn't working. From lack of oversight on Wall Street, banking, investment companies, to housing crisis, and now no true oversight to these companies. This is not a democrat or republican issue. Both are failing the American people, it's about those who job it is to oversee these industries know their job and do it.

[nky]

It **** sure isn't drilling and spilling and killing everything in the Gulf, I'd rather buy it overseas, and pay for it. It's killing all life in the Gulf and destroying the fishing and all the tourist things along the Gulf.

So our service men and women are less important than some turtles and sea birds?