Will Dunn ruled Ineligible by KHSAA

Amped 88 · 05-12-2010, 11:57 AM

Any new news?

**ROCKSOLID69** · 05-14-2010, 02:04 AM

any news on where the kid will be at next year

El Indio · 05-21-2010, 09:43 AM

I hope he gets to play somewhere.

64black&gold · 05-21-2010, 04:29 PM

No news right now. Family hired a lawyer and are going through the process. He will get to play somewhere but it will for sure not be Danville and it might not be Boyle Co.

**ROCKSOLID69** · 05-22-2010, 12:51 AM

64black&gold Wrote:No news right now. Family hired a lawyer and are going through the process. He will get to play somewhere but it will for sure not be Danville and it might not be Boyle Co.

Im sure we could find some room for him here at Rockcastle:lmao:. I dont see why he cant play at boyle but can go any where else and be eligible

~~BoyleCounty~~ · 05-30-2010, 02:24 PM

I figured there would be some news by now. Is there a time frame in which this could all finally end? I hope the kid finds a spot on a roster somewhere even if it's not at Boyle County.

**LWC** · 05-30-2010, 09:48 PM

Yeah, does anyone have an update? Just like RockSolid said, we could use him at Rockcastle! Big Grin

Can he play any defense?

**ROCKSOLID69** · 07-13-2010, 01:57 AM

any news yet. somebody has to know something

Hatz · 07-13-2010, 08:29 AM

ROCKSOLID69 Wrote:any news yet. somebody has to know something

To my limited knowledge the young man is still ineligible and nothing has changed. :Thumbs:

Amped 88 · 07-13-2010, 10:17 AM

Hatz Wrote:To my limited knowledge the young man is still ineligible and nothing has changed. :Thumbs:

And I don't see it changing. Hate that for him wish him the best.

~~BoyleCounty~~ · 07-13-2010, 01:16 PM

Amped 88 Wrote:And I don't see it changing. Hate that for him wish him the best.

It's shame that his senior season is being taken away from him. Oh well, nothing we can do as fans. I too, wish him the best.

tradition · 07-13-2010, 04:36 PM

Again can someone tell me why he left Danville his senior season? Was he not happy with the school, coaches, grades? I just would have thought that his family would have thoroughly gone over the rules before they took that road. Heck, I would sit down with an attorney to make sure I have all my ducks in order before I take a chance like that.

papagrit · 07-13-2010, 11:05 PM

lwc Wrote:Yeah, does anyone have an update? Just like RockSolid said, we could use him at Rockcastle! Can he play any defense?

I, for one, surely wouldn't mind seeing him come to Rockcastle. I'm guessing here, but, I think that if he exhausts his appeals to play at Boyle, then he will probably go to one of the heavyweights in Lexington. The possibility of playing for his father's alma mater at Garrard County also might exist as it is close to Danville. But, wherever the kid winds up...best wishes to him! :Thumbs: Hope he gets to play somewhere to exhibit his skills for the college coaches.

Hatz · 07-14-2010, 06:46 AM

tradition Wrote:Again can someone tell me why he left Danville his senior season? Was he not happy with the school, coaches, grades? I just would have thought that his family would have thoroughly gone over the rules before they took that road. Heck, I would sit down with an attorney to make sure I have all my ducks in order before I take a chance like that.

Conflicts with Coach and system is what I heard. I do believe the parents thought they had done everything that was required of them. And as Forrest Gump said, "That's all I've got to say about that." :eyeroll:

~~BoyleCounty~~ · 07-14-2010, 08:04 AM

Hatz Wrote:Conflicts with Coach and system is what I heard. I do believe the parents thought they had done everything that was required of them. And as Forrest Gump said, "That's all I've got to say about that." :eyeroll:

:Thumbs:

charlie22 · 07-14-2010, 11:55 AM

Hatz Wrote:Conflicts with Coach and system is what I heard. I do believe the parents thought they had done everything that was required of them. And as Forrest Gump said, "That's all I've got to say about that." :eyeroll:

If what you say is accurate, and you have a lot of credibility with me based on your past posts, that reason unfortunately confirms the KHSAA ineligibility determination. Right, wrong or otherwise, the KHSAA rule states that a player will be ineligible, even if there is a permanent bona fide change of residence, it the transfer was motivated in whole or in part based on athletics. The KHSAA has long held that dissatisfaction with the coach or system at the former school (called the "sending school" by the KHSAA) constitutes a transfer motivated in whole or in part on athletics.

I totally disagree with the rule for what it's worth. I believe that with only 4 years to participate in high school sports, if a kid or his parents are dissatisfied with a coach (for any one of numerous reasons; some valid and some invalid) the kid should be able to freely transfer to a school with a coach the player and parents approve of. But the rule is what the schools voted on and approved so that's what the KHSAA staff and Board have to follow (even if the staff and Board may disagree with the rule). I fully realize that there will be those people that think a kid should be forced to stay at a school and play for a coach the player disapproves of because that will teach him a lesson in life. I get that. But in my opinion it's not the job of the KHSAA rule system to teach the kid that lesson; it's the job of his parents and if his parents want to allow the kid to transfer for a silly or stupid reason, so be it and shame on the parents.

Rebel55 · 07-14-2010, 01:02 PM

papagrit Wrote:I, for one, surely wouldn't mind seeing him come to Rockcastle. I'm guessing here, but, I think that if he exhausts his appeals to play at Boyle, then he will probably go to one of the heavyweights in Lexington. The possibility of playing for his father's alma mater at Garrard County also might exist as it is close to Danville. But, wherever the kid winds up...best wishes to him! :Thumbs: Hope he gets to play somewhere to exhibit his skills for the college coaches.

I don't think so. From all I've heard he will remain living with his father and continue attending classes at Boyle County next month. He will start playing basketball for Boyle on Jan.1 and Danville can't do anything about it.

PurplePride92 · 07-14-2010, 02:12 PM

Don't know for sure if he will be playing basketball yet. He watched a summer practice or two but when the latest ruling came out he never came back and did not attend any of the basketball camps to spectate with the team and I know he didn't come to open gym last night. No one on or close to the basketball team knows if he is going to play or not. If he can't practice with the team until January then I doubt he will play but I guess we'll see what happens. He will help the basketball team tremendously if he does play but as of today no one knows what he is going to do.

Can he practice with the basketball team if he is ineligible or will he have to wait until January before he can practice?

tradition · 07-14-2010, 03:45 PM

Just speculating but what would his senior year have been if he had stayed at Danville? Success or frustration?

PurplePride92 · 07-14-2010, 03:54 PM

Too early to tell. That will be a question with a clearer answer in December. If I had to guess right now.......I wouldn't say success or frustration I'd say satisfaction but at the same time that is speculation and I have no true clue as to his relationship with Sam Harp before he left. Seeing as how it would be his senior year I am guessing he would enjoy playing one more year with some of his closest friends. I had heard around town that he was working out at Danville with some of his friends during dead period.

tradition · 07-14-2010, 04:23 PM

Before the move, I am assuming he was on the right path to a possible athletic scholarship. Now is there any chance for an athletic scholarship? Will he possible get academic scholarships and hope to walk on?

charlie22 · 07-14-2010, 04:55 PM

tradition Wrote:Before the move, I am assuming he was on the right path to a possible athletic scholarship. Now is there any chance for an athletic scholarship? Will he possible get academic scholarships and hope to walk on?

I don't know the kid from Adam, but speaking generally, athletic scholarships are awarded less on high school game performance than one would think. From what I know, college recruiters put much more emphasis on performance at combines and college camps where they can assess his physical skills. So if young Mr. Dunn attended camps and combines this summer and showed well, I doubt the lack of participation during his senior football season will hurt him much. Even if it does hurt him to the degree he doesn't get a college scholarship, he can walk on his frosh year and if he has the skills to play college football, he'll get an athletic scholarship.

charlie22 · 07-14-2010, 04:56 PM

PurplePride92 Wrote:Don't know for sure if he will be playing basketball yet. He watched a summer practice or two but when the latest ruling came out he never came back and did not attend any of the basketball camps to spectate with the team and I know he didn't come to open gym last night. No one on or close to the basketball team knows if he is going to play or not. If he can't practice with the team until January then I doubt he will play but I guess we'll see what happens. He will help the basketball team tremendously if he does play but as of today no one knows what he is going to do.

Can he practice with the basketball team if he is ineligible or will he have to wait until January before he can practice?

If he's ineligible, he can't even practice with the team until he's eligible as I understand the rule. I also understand that there has been some legislative interest or possible school proposal to at least let an ineligible kid practice with the team but I don't think any think has come of that yet.

PurplePride92 · 07-14-2010, 07:32 PM

charlie22 Wrote:If he's ineligible, he can't even practice with the team until he's eligible as I understand the rule. I also understand that there has been some legislative interest or possible school proposal to at least let an ineligible kid practice with the team but I don't think any think has come of that yet.

Thanks. That being said, I don't know if he'll play basketball or not. As soon as I found out something I'll post the info.

Rebel55 · 07-16-2010, 03:05 PM

I'm hearing that this is not over with just yet, and like a previous poster said "that's all I got to say about that".

Beetle01 · 07-16-2010, 03:17 PM

Boyle will get this kid eligible. They have been working the KHSAA for awhile? Didnt they have a 20 yr old play for them back in the late 90's?

Back then they just got an injunction against the KHSAA and that was all that was ever done, has the KHSAA kinda put a stop to that?

kyrocklover · 07-16-2010, 04:58 PM

Beetle01 Wrote:Boyle will get this kid eligible. They have been working the KHSAA for awhile? Didnt they have a 20 yr old play for them back in the late 90's?

Back then they just got an injunction against the KHSAA and that was all that was ever done, has the KHSAA kinda put a stop to that?

:please:

Boyle is not the injured party here and will not file any type of suit. If there is any injured party it is Will Dunn. It is up to the Dunn's to pursue any other legal avenues that they have available. You know, Will is eligible to play basketball in January.

I will say this, if any kid that has already sat out six months of eligibility and has or will be in his or her senior year, I think they should be eligible to play.

By the way, Boyle did not get an injuction for anyone to play back in the late 90's. That suit was filed by the players family which was heard in the Boyle court system. By the way, that judge that issued the injuction lost in the next election.

Beetle01 · 07-16-2010, 07:22 PM

kyrocklover Wrote::please:

Boyle is not the injured party here and will not file any type of suit. If there is any injured party it is Will Dunn. It is up to the Dunn's to pursue any other legal avenues that they have available. You know, Will is eligible to play basketball in January.

I will say this, if any kid that has already sat out six months of eligibility and has or will be in his or her senior year, I think they should be eligible to play.

By the way, Boyle did not get an injuction for anyone to play back in the late 90's. That suit was filed by the players family which was heard in the Boyle court system. By the way, that judge that issued the injuction lost in the next election.

Of course I know Boyle doesnt file suit, but they know how to work the system and dont think they arent advising their student athletes on what to do. Im not saying its a bad thing. I think Kentucky should be more like Ohio.

kyrocklover · 07-16-2010, 07:26 PM

Once again, Boyle had nothing to do with the late 1990's suit.

By the way. In todays Danville paper.

http://www.amnews.com/stories/2010/07/16/spo.295955.sto

Eddy Creek Bay · 07-16-2010, 11:20 PM

Has a Boyle County star player ever transferred to to Danville from Boyle County his senior year? I heard that if the kid is ruled elgible that it might be the last time Boyle and Danville play football against one another for quite some time. It's strange to me why the father never had joint custody of the kid until his senior year. The mother has always had full custody of him.