[pigskin1987]

Wayne Co rolls in LT Smith Stadium sporting an unblemished record fri afternoon but everyone in this small southern kentucky town knows that means nothing when you make it this far. No one is overlooking the tradition of football excellence that Belfry brings to the table and hard nose running attack the Pirates thrive on, but one thing about it these boys from Monticello will lay it all on the line fri evening rain or shine when the whistle blows and play their hearts out to hoist the hardware above their head when the final horn sounds. Congratulations to both teams on making it to the big dance.
Wayne Co 20 Belfry 10
Roll Cards!!

[fernpence15]

i feel like Wayne County may win in the upset this year! or atleast i hope they do

Belfry 18
Wayne C0.22:disappoint:

[BelfryPride]

Wayne Co rolls in LT Smith Stadium sporting an unblemished record fri afternoon but everyone in this small southern kentucky town knows that means nothing when you make it this far. No one is overlooking the tradition of football excellence that Belfry brings to the table and hard nose running attack the Pirates thrive on, but one thing about it these boys from Monticello will lay it all on the line fri evening rain or shine when the whistle blows and play their hearts out to hoist the hardware above their head when the final horn sounds. Congratulations to both teams on making it to the big dance.
Wayne Co 20 Belfry 10
Roll Cards!!

I apprciate your views and offer the same view myself. Belfry is a small town in Eastern Kentucky. We live by the motto Failth, Family & Football. We will also lay it all on the line come Friday at 3pm. We WILL NOT be overlooking Wayne at all. Prepare for a battle. Go Pirates!

[Belfry0304]

Here's the difference is wayne co will put 9 in the box that will feel like 12 and they will still cover the pass. This is a really good defense probably the best defense Belfry will have seen all year it's not gonna be business as usual trust me on that. We all know Belfry "can" pass they just don't pass well and aren't confident in the pass and only use it as a last resort. Coming from a similar type of offensive school I understand how this hurts in the big games

With that said I feel like this will be the best run attack that Wayne has seen all year and that it will give them fits

now I don't have a horse in this race I'm just pointing out some facts

This Belfry football team is a little better than "don't pass well" as a matter of fact they can gash you with a deep ball. I wouldn't be surprised if Keaton Taylor is one of, if not THE fastest player on the field. Belfry isn't afraid to sling a deep ball, Sani Warren has arguably the best or 2nd best arm of a Belfry QB in recent memory (Jonathan Wright), but they're also not afraid to throw an out, slant, curl, or screen to Keaton and in recent weeks we've even seen the ball thrown to Cameron Johnson, Cody Bostic, and Trenity Carr coming out of the backfield.

[easton2737]

Belfry by 10, 31 to 21

[Iam4thecats]

Belfry passes for less than 70 yards per game. I can't tell you how many exactly because it is so bad it isn't even listed.

[Tica]

Wayne is well coached. They took PT's return speed out of the game by sidestepping it. Rather than risk the speed of Tilghman's returners, Wayne put its kickoffs on the ground and/or punted away. They correctly figured their D could spot 25 + yards lost on a pooch and still hold. They found and exploited a weakness in the PT secondary over and over, which shows either good scouting, or good eyes in the booth, or both. Their ground game was average; Guffey is not rail thin, and has a Tebow like scrambling style. If Guffey has time to throw, he has 3 receivers that can flat catch the ball.

[EKUAlum05]

Belfry has passing ability...but let's call it what it is...if Belfry throws more than 10 times Friday then Wayne County is hoisting the hardware.

Taylor is a skilled receiver and Warren is a far cry from the struggles of the 2003/2004 teams.. but the pass in Belfry's offense is much more akin to a trick play than anything. Haywood may set it up as a way to shock the opponent, but unless it is a very generic route with little risk Haywood would much rather keep it on the ground all night.

The biggest risk with stacking the box against Belfry is not ever the pass... it is what happens when one guy misses a read and Belfry runs it right where he should have been with out the second Safety to bail you out.

[AtlPirateFan]

It's been said that one dimensional, unbalanced teams have a hard time winning the big game. 2003 and 2004 Belfry's stats from combined State title games 141 carries 845 yards, 1 pass for 5 yards.

Belfry has been more balanced since then looking at the 2011 and 2012 appearances (both games they had slip through their hands) 267 rushing yards, 149 passing yards.

Once again, it's not that the passing game is bad, we just prefer no to use it.

[Leonidas]

Here's the difference is wayne co will put 9 in the box that will feel like 12 and they will still cover the pass. This is a really good defense probably the best defense Belfry will have seen all year it's not gonna be business as usual trust me on that. We all know Belfry "can" pass they just don't pass well and aren't confident in the pass and only use it as a last resort. Coming from a similar type of offensive school I understand how this hurts in the big games

With that said I feel like this will be the best run attack that Wayne has seen all year and that it will give them fits

now I don't have a horse in this race I'm just pointing out some facts

Where are all these facts you keep going on about? All I see when I read your post is the opinion of someone who apparently doesn't know the difference between facts and opinions.

^That, however, is a fact.:biggrin:

[Objective]

[B]Guffey, Tyler Rush Attempts 144 Yards 657 TD 19

Guffey, Tyler Pass Attempts 280 Comp 162 Int 5 Yards 3128 Td 32 Avg per game 223
[/B]
^ here is the difference in the game I think Belfry comes in as the odds on favorite been saying that for 4 weeks now but, Guffey is a game changer. The thing that will hurts Wayne Co in this game will be the forecast. If it rains it will limit Guffey and Wayne's passing attack .....then I'll take Belfry 14-7

If the rain is light or it doesn't rain I'll take Wayne Co 21-14
Belfry is one dimensional Run only this hurts them Wayne stacks the box

Here's the difference is wayne co will put 9 in the box that will feel like 12 and they will still cover the pass. This is a really good defense probably the best defense Belfry will have seen all year it's not gonna be business as usual trust me on that. We all know Belfry "[B]can" pass they just don't pass well[/B] and aren't confident in the pass and only use it as a last resort. Coming from a similar type of offensive school I understand how this hurts in the big games

With that said I feel like this will be the best run attack that Wayne has seen all year and that it will give them fits

now I don't have a horse in this race I'm just pointing out some facts

Where are all these facts you keep going on about? All I see when I read your post is the opinion of someone who apparently doesn't know the difference between facts and opinions.

^That, however, is a fact.:biggrin:

I've put them in BOLD so you can find them and your above statement is actually an opinion because you don't really know if I know the definition of a fact or not, keep trying maybe you'll get me next time :flush:

[EKUAlum05]

^^^^

For the record Belfry does not enter as the odds on favorite anywhere except on this site's very biased poll... the CPU's seemingly has this as a toss-up and almost every ranking this year has had Belfry side by side whether it is #1 or #2, #2 or #3 and they have been interchangeable in terms of which team was ahead of the other.

I think Belfry might get the distinction of being a "slight favorite" based solely on the fact they have been here before and are considered "past due"... but in the same breathe you could argue Wayne gets tat distinction because they knocked off the reigning King of 3A and now get to wear the mythical crown.

Hard for either team to paint the underdog role in this one as they have both went wire to wire at the top of Class

[Leonidas]

I've put them in [B]BOLD so you can find them and your above statement is actually an opinion because you don't really know if I know the definition of a fact or not, keep trying maybe you'll get me next time :flush:

The only information that was a fact in bold is Guffey's stats.

But thanks for helping prove my point.:Thumbs:

[pjdoug]

Guffey will be a State Champ 4 days from now

[skully03]

^ oh please!!

[IronMan86]

Guffey will be a State Champ 4 days from now

Sounds like the rest of the team doesn't even need to show up? Guffey will take care of it all. We'll just cancel our room reservations and save the gas $$. :betterthanexpected:

[pjdoug]

Sounds like the rest of the team doesn't even need to show up? Guffey will take care of it all. We'll just cancel our room reservations and save the gas $$. :betterthanexpected:

good idea :Thumbs: lol

[OutlawJoseyWales]

Here's the difference is wayne co will put 9 in the box that will feel like 12 and they will still cover the pass. This is a really good defense probably the best defense Belfry will have seen all year it's not gonna be business as usual trust me on that. We all know Belfry "can" pass they just don't pass well and aren't confident in the pass and only use it as a last resort. Coming from a similar type of offensive school I understand how this hurts in the big games

With that said I feel like this will be the best run attack that Wayne has seen all year and that it will give them fits

now I don't have a horse in this race I'm just pointing out some facts

Believe me....Belfry has seen their fair share of 9, 10 and even 11 in the box. This isn't Haywood's first rodeo. Teams that have traditionally needed to put 9 in the box haven't faired very well against Belfry teams...past or present. E-town, Owensboro Catholic, Breathitt, Middlesboro, Prestonsburg, Pike Central, Bourbon, Mason Co, Garrard.....the list could go on and on.

Central has consistently given Belfry problems because they didn't need to put 9 and 10 in the box. Their size, speed and overall athleticism enabled them to take a more straight up approach. If putting 9 and 10 in the box is Wayne's gameplan...and I doubt that it is....but if it is.......bless your hearts.

[OutlawJoseyWales]

I've put them in [B]BOLD so you can find them and your above statement is actually an opinion because you don't really know if I know the definition of a fact or not, keep trying maybe you'll get me next time :flush:

Some of that isn't "fact". I highly doubt Wayne's defense is the best Belfry's seen all year. In "fact"....I would say Johnson Central is definitely a notch or two better defensively

[AtlPirateFan]

Guffey will be a State Champ 4 days from now

One player will not beat Belfry on his own. I do not care who he is. Ask

Dalton Pope (Bourbon)
Brent Holman (Bourbon)
Anthony "Ace" Wales (Bourbon)(2011)* Recruited by Louisville, committed to WKU
Kentavius Hopkins (Bourbon) - Elite 11 (#2) KHSAA RB Committed to EKU
Richard Trent (Breathitt) - Elite 11 (#11) KHSAA QB
Chris Todd (E-town) - Played for Texas Tech and Auburn
Zach Barnard (Owensboro Catholic) - went to Marshall
Markell Hayes (Garrard) - Morehead State

Every one of the names listed above were billed as reasons Belfry would not win the game against their respected teams. Whether it was "he's too fast", "he's too accurate" or "he's got D1 talent" none of them could do it alone. Belfry game plans extremely well, they will be prepared to handle what your best player can do. Only one young man on that list has a W over Belfry.

I hear Guffey has a good receiver corp and has a good running back to help out. He will need their help.

*Anthony Wales had a great performance in the 2010 title game in which Central blew out Belfry, but he did not beat them on his own. Lousiville Centrals 2011 and 2012 wins over Belfry were team efforts anchored by a Linebacker corp that was very impressive. In the 2011 game Anthony Wales was knocked out very early.

[pjdoug]

I've seen Belfry play several times over the years and respect them and love their tradition.I just think Wayne County has the total package this year.

[AtlPirateFan]

I know I had a typo on my post, Anthony Wales should say Central not Bourbon

[OutlawJoseyWales]

I've seen Belfry play several times over the years and respect them and love their tradition.I just think Wayne County has the total package this year.

Without a doubt Wayne deserves all the respect they're receiving...and they've definitely earned Befry's respect. They appear to be a very hard working group of young men....and will quite possibly go down as the best team in their school's history. However, I don't see them beating Belfry.

[Belfry0304]

Belfry passes for less than 70 yards per game. I can't tell you how many exactly because it is so bad it isn't even listed.

That's all you need with this offense. Why would we sit back and throw 15 times? All it takes is a few to open up what we want to do lol

[Demarcus ware]

The pirates experience in the big game, with a coach that's been there many times, and the same coach that makes the best adjustments in the game will be the difference, IF the Pirates can keep the ball off the turf, and get the penalties down just a little, then Belfry wins. If they can't do those things, then gotta go with Wayne. GO PIRATES!!!

Belfry 21
Wayne 18

[hawg laig]

I'm pulling for the Pirates. Would love to see my old coach get another championship.

[oneijoe]

It's been said that one dimensional, unbalanced teams have a hard time winning the big game. 2003 and 2004 Belfry's stats from combined State title games 141 carries 845 yards, 1 pass for 5 yards.

Belfry has been more balanced since then looking at the 2011 and 2012 appearances (both games they had slip through their hands) 267 rushing yards, 149 passing yards.

Once again, it's not that the passing game is bad, we just prefer no to use it.

lol.... now that's a misleading post. The 03-04 Pirate teams had, imo, the finest set of RB's and one of the best blocking o-line's in its history. It was smart for those teams to throw so rarely. I don't believe anyone from Belfry wishes either of those teams had put the ball in the air more. lol...

In 11-12, the running games weren't nearly as dominant. As a result, Belfry threw more often during the regular season. But make no mistake, it was having enough regular season reps in doing so which allowed them to throw with some success in the finals.



THAT WHICH YOU DON'T USE, YOU LOSE.

[Belfry0304]

lol.... now that's a misleading post. The 03-04 Pirate teams had, imo, the finest set of RB's and one of the best blocking o-line's in its history. It was smart for those teams to throw so rarely. I don't believe anyone from Belfry wishes either of those teams had put the ball in the air more. lol...

In 11-12, the running games weren't nearly as dominant. As a result, Belfry threw more often during the regular season. But make no mistake, it was having enough regular season reps in doing so which allowed them to throw with some success in the finals.



THAT WHICH YOU DON'T USE, YOU LOSE.

I believe this is one of the finest crops of backfield talent we've had since then, though!

[oneijoe]

That's all you need with this offense. Why would we sit back and throw 15 times? All it takes is a few to open up what we want to do lol

If what you're saying ends up the case and Belfry NEEDS to pass to break open its running game in this one, Wayne Co. will win going away.

EVERYTHING Belfry does offensively is built from forcing a defense to pack it in between the tackles. If the Pirates can't consistantly get 4 yds a pop inside vs. a 5-2/4-3/4-4 defense alignment playing gap assignment, the offense will struggle. Belfry breaks big plays running outside or throwing downfield when DEs and OLBs begin cheating inside (losing gap discipline) and the safety(s) creep too close to the LOS.

It's funny when people think defenses are "stacking the box" against Belfry, when it's usually Belfry's offensive formation that causes the defense to look that way. The Pirates use a LOT of single wideout with 2-3 RB sets. These closed-formation sets guarantee the weakside corner and one safety are playing closer to the middle of the LOS.

[oneijoe]

I believe this is one of the finest crops of backfield talent we've had since then, though!

The point is... this Belfry team is NOT a good enough passing team (whether from lack of ability, lack of use, or both) to move the sticks if it isn't able to enforce its will on the ground.

For the Pirate's sake, I hope you're right about the RB talent. This is a very good Wayne Co. team.


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