[Motivator]

These are the facts: Belfry has not seen an offense like this all year. Very hard to stop.
Wayne has not seen a team as physical as Belfry.
Should make for a very interesting game. I look for special teams and turn overs to play a huge factor in this one.

[Belfry0304]

These are the facts: Belfry has not seen an offense like this all year. Very hard to stop.
Wayne has not seen a team as physical as Belfry.
Should make for a very interesting game. I look for special teams and turn overs to play a huge factor in this one.

I agree, but Belfry has seen similar offenses just not as good (Pike Central, CAK, even Bourbon could threaten to fast) so that may help. Likewise, Wayne has been on some journeys the last few weeks so I don't think they'll be shell shocked. I don't think Belfry has seen an offense as dynamic as Wayne's, that boasts as many talented wide outs.

How does Wayne County do on special teams? Belfry has a very talented young punter in Wellman who has pinned several teams deep this season (Harlan County fans can attest to this) as well as a good freshman kicker who has missed just 2 XP's this year (a far cry from years past where 50% was standard) and usually kicks pretty good kickoffs.

[Motivator]

On kick offs,they will kick it down and dirty(on the ground hard). They never kick it deep. Extra points are solid, field goals I would say from 25 in are pretty good. Farther than that I might give it a 50% chance. Punting is average, but they do cover great on punts and on kick off. Weather could also be a factor for this, no mud but might be a very wet slippery ball for holders and receivers.

[Belfry0304]

On kick offs,they will kick it down and dirty(on the ground hard). They never kick it deep. Extra points are solid, field goals I would say from 25 in are pretty good. Farther than that I might give it a 50% chance. Punting is average, but they do cover great on punts and on kick off. Weather could also be a factor for this, no mud but might be a very wet slippery ball for holders and receivers.

I can't decide if I think a heavy rain would benefit or hurt Belfry. On one side, it would probably slow down a little of Wayne County's passing attack. On the flip side, option pitches haven't exactly been a walk in the park and a wet ball can't help that. Are they squib kicking or straight up onside?

[ballboy]

Experience to Belfry..Toughness to Wayne County for going on the Road and winning 2 good games..It will come down to who makes the least mistakes this will be probably the best game out of all 6 classes. Good luck to both teams for a great season.. Wayne 27 Belfry 23...In a classic a it could go either way.

[Buc-a-roo]

Are there any recent Wayne County games available online? I would love to watch either the Central or Tilghman game if available.

[AtlPirateFan]

I can't decide if I think a heavy rain would benefit or hurt Belfry. On one side, it would probably slow down a little of Wayne County's passing attack. On the flip side, option pitches haven't exactly been a walk in the park and a wet ball can't help that. Are they squib kicking or straight up onside?

I would like to think after the monsoon that Belfry dominated PCC in that the edge would lean slightly toward the Pirates, only because they played so well in a very heavy downpour with lots of wind.

[cuppett777]

Are there any recent Wayne County games available online? I would love to watch either the Central or Tilghman game if available.

the Tilman game wont help you in anyway but to see after Wayne got up a couple scores Tilman went south and and had several turnovers and that wayne made them pay and stepped on there throats and didn't let up...

[Buc-a-roo]

the Tilman game wont help you in anyway but to see after Wayne got up a couple scores Tilman went south and and had several turnovers and that wayne made them pay and stepped on there throats and didn't let up...

I'd still like to see it, out of the last 2 months, those two games are the ones I'd like to watch. I would like to just get a look at Wayne and what they are doing on both sides of the ball.

Anyone know if they have any games available?

[EKUAlum05]

These are the facts: Belfry has not seen an offense like this all year. Very hard to stop.
Wayne has not seen a team as physical as Belfry.
Should make for a very interesting game. I look for special teams and turn overs to play a huge factor in this one.

Long post...every one bare with me as I was thinking about this as I drove back from KY yesterday.

Belfry has seen offenses like Wayne (in fact they have seen several)... just not one identical to them.

Wayne has not seen anything like Belfry. Bell is the closest thing to Belfry but as I mentioned previously the Bobcats don't have a single skill player who might have even seen the field if they played for Belfry.

I love this Wayne County team... I have been following them all year and the comment I made back in October is that Wayne is the type of team I could see losing in the 2nd Round...but at the same time the type of team I could see winning the whole thing.

I am sure someone will get all butthurt about what I am about to say and take their own meaning from it or pick out a certain part of it, but this is the way I view Wayne and it is intended as a very positive compliment:

Wayne County is dominantly an "OK" football team.

What this means is when I look at Wayne I see an undersized team, without any elite speed, without dominant defensive players, and an offense that is predicated on having the other team make the mistakes. The one true playmaker on their team is their gritty QB who doesn't have the strongest arm or the fastest feet. Yet... this team of role players do their job like clockwork.. make each other better... and rarely make any type of critical error. They take exactly what is given to them, they are comfortable going on long drives, and any type they look for the big play it is a very calculated risk with the utmost chance for success.

As I mentioned Belfry has seen several teams I] like[/I] Wayne County. In fact, Belfry has played and even defeated teams just as talented if not substantially more talented... but Wayne is a different animal because they simply execute and are so damn consistent every single time out. What worries me about Wayne is that they are the perfect storm offensively of the players who have hurt Belfry this year:

QB Accuracy- CAK
QB Mobility- Gallia Academy
RB Depth and Skill- Southwestern
Receiver Route Running- CAK
Line Execution (not size or skill)- Johnson Central

Belfry has seen better skill talent (Bourbon/Somerset), they have seen an equally dangerous QB (Bourbon), they have played a bigger,better line (JC and Harlan County), and they have seen better RB's (Bourbon, JC, Harlan Co)..but they have yet to see an offense as well rounded and deficient of blaring weakness like Wayne.

The Belfry defense is playing at a very high level right now... they have a daunting task this week. Wayne isn't a team like Bourbon or JC where one missed tackle equals 6 points.. but they make up for it with the fact that they literally are content taking 6 yards at a time because they are so confident that they will not make a mistake. Belfry has to walk that fine line of playing conservative to force Wayne to play their game, and at the same time dialing up enough calculated risks being taken to disrupt te Wayne flow and force some 3rd and Longs.

[99PIRATEFAN]

Belfrys peaking right now so the Pirates will bring the 3rd championship back home no one has stopped Mr. Hatfield he is a man playing football with kids Belfry by 10.

[EKUAlum05]

I'd still like to see it, out of the last 2 months, those two games are the ones I'd like to watch. I would like to just get a look at Wayne and what they are doing on both sides of the ball.

Anyone know if they have any games available?

http://www.hudl.com/team/32886

They go above and beyond the normal "highlights" this will give you a real good feel for them

[maximus73]

:CheerleadRooting for Belfry always, finish what you started boys and don't underestimate know one .

[EKUAlum05]

http://www.hudl.com/team/32886

They go above and beyond the normal "highlights" this will give you a real good feel for them

Is it just me or has all of the individual game highlights suddenly disappeared since I posted that this morning?:eyeroll:

Interesting

Very interesting indeed.. when I posted the link about 6-9:00 per game of offensive/defensive highlights were on their hudl page...now only individual highlights remain. HAHA

[EKUAlum05]

Now that I have heaped praise on Wayne... who IMHO is the most well rounded team Belfry has faced (they are not as dominant offensively as JC or Bourbon, but they have a better defense than both teams)... it now stands to reason I point out what I have seen that has me salivating potentially for Belfry.

For starters, I feel extremely confident that if Belfry plays a relatively clean game (don't even have to be perfect,, but no catastrophic failures and limit your big penalties or missed tackles to only an isolated incident) that Belfry will bring home the hardware. Obviously this also means a great game plan with defensive penetration and making Wayne One-Dimensional.

Against Bourbon I still did not feel confident in Belfry if both teams brought their A-game because Bourbon had those play makers with either elite speed or athleticism that could potentially score at any moment... I don't see that with Wayne. Johnson Central had the ability to simply maul Belfry with their size up front and let their talented backs hit a home run... that is not Wayne.

I have said all year that unless Belfry stops themselves, there is no 3A team who can stop their offense and I stand by that. Bourbon had a beautiful gameplan to open and had some unbelievable athletes on defense. If you stack the box on Belfry you are beat this year... end of discussion... too much skill in the backfield and Sani is so dangerous with his feet and arm that you will pay the price. Bourbon took a page out of Central's playbook played their LB's back and used their athleticism to diagnose the play and react.. while mixing in different looks to try and create penetration and "guess right". Belfry still racked up over 300 yards.

I like Wayne's defense...they remind me of Belfry in that they are undersized but lightning quick up front and they will pop you... but they are not an especially good tackling team and their LB's don't appear to be nearly as talented as some of the other teams Belfry has faced. Their defense reminds me of some of the better Breathitt County defenses Belfry has faced over the years..the Pirates won't run all over them..but I simply can't see Wayne stopping them all night and Belfry should score enough points that they can win the game from the isolated big play and then a couple sustained drives (3-4 TD's IMO)



I am also seeing a lot of Cards playing both ways. I don't think they have seen a team like Belfry who basically platoons... Central usually comes close to maintaining a platoon system but the Jackets were scraping the barrel a bit this year it seemed.

[AtlPirateFan]

Is it just me or has all of the individual game highlights suddenly disappeared since I posted that this morning?:eyeroll:

Interesting

Very interesting indeed.. when I posted the link about 6-9:00 per game of offensive/defensive highlights were on their hudl page...now only individual highlights remain. HAHA

I noticed that as well

[bucslover68]

:eyeroll:

I noticed that as well

I've talked to a a Belfry coach over the weekend and they had already seen a lot of film on Wayne...I won't say in public what I was told, but I know they respect what they will face Friday....the weather forecast sucks, and that combined with Wayne's "first trip jitters"' does anyone think that it favors Belfry in possibly getting off to a fast start.? I think it does if BHS holds on to the ball early, but Belfry also has had just a little trouble "adjusting" to the style and pace of games and then they usually start playing good football.

[MikeEky]

I would really love to see the Pirates bring the championship back to eastern kentucky but they face a huge uphill battle. Been fortunate enough to watch 3 of Wayne Co's games this year in person and Belfry just hasnt seen this type of precision that they will face friday. A very good line with all state caliber receivers and a QB that will/needs to garner all state attention. I also believe Wayne's defense is being under sold, from what Ive seen they can be very very dominant at times. Granted Ive seen Belfry twice this year in person also and their offense is very hard to stop when they are clicking but turnovers and penalties make this offense look mediocre at times. Belfry cannot resort to stupid mistakes or Wayne will have this one locked up by the 3rd quarter.

If both play perfect games
Wayne by 14 points

If Belfry falls victim to stupid penalites and turnovers
Wayne by 21-28 points

If Wayne shows up nervous and doesnt execute
Toss up

[Guffman50]

Long post...every one bare with me as I was thinking about this as I drove back from KY yesterday.

Belfry has seen offenses like Wayne (in fact they have seen several)... just not one identical to them.

Wayne has not seen anything like Belfry. Bell is the closest thing to Belfry but as I mentioned previously the Bobcats don't have a single skill player who might have even seen the field if they played for Belfry.

I love this Wayne County team... I have been following them all year and the comment I made back in October is that Wayne is the type of team I could see losing in the 2nd Round...but at the same time the type of team I could see winning the whole thing.

I am sure someone will get all butthurt about what I am about to say and take their own meaning from it or pick out a certain part of it, but this is the way I view Wayne and it is intended as a very positive compliment:

Wayne County is dominantly an "OK" football team.

What this means is when I look at Wayne I see an undersized team, without any elite speed, without dominant defensive players, and an offense that is predicated on having the other team make the mistakes. The one true playmaker on their team is their gritty QB who doesn't have the strongest arm or the fastest feet. Yet... this team of role players do their job like clockwork.. make each other better... and rarely make any type of critical error. They take exactly what is given to them, they are comfortable going on long drives, and any type they look for the big play it is a very calculated risk with the utmost chance for success.

As I mentioned Belfry has seen several teams I] like[/I] Wayne County. In fact, Belfry has played and even defeated teams just as talented if not substantially more talented... but Wayne is a different animal because they simply execute and are so damn consistent every single time out. What worries me about Wayne is that they are the perfect storm offensively of the players who have hurt Belfry this year:

QB Accuracy- CAK
QB Mobility- Gallia Academy
RB Depth and Skill- Southwestern
Receiver Route Running- CAK
Line Execution (not size or skill)- Johnson Central

Belfry has seen better skill talent (Bourbon/Somerset), they have seen an equally dangerous QB (Bourbon), they have played a bigger,better line (JC and Harlan County), and they have seen better RB's (Bourbon, JC, Harlan Co)..but they have yet to see an offense as well rounded and deficient of blaring weakness like Wayne.

The Belfry defense is playing at a very high level right now... they have a daunting task this week. Wayne isn't a team like Bourbon or JC where one missed tackle equals 6 points.. but they make up for it with the fact that they literally are content taking 6 yards at a time because they are so confident that they will not make a mistake. Belfry has to walk that fine line of playing conservative to force Wayne to play their game, and at the same time dialing up enough calculated risks being taken to disrupt te Wayne flow and force some 3rd and Longs.

I will put Wayne QB up against anyone's when it comes to arm strength. Guffey hasn't shown his true arm. I have personally seen this young man toss a 70 yd bomb and make it look effortless. Ask any of his receivers also. When he throws a bullet you better catch it. If not your getting drilled in the chest or head. Any QB that is over 1400 lbs in 3 lifts is very strong.

[johnnyd]

I would really love to see the Pirates bring the championship back to eastern kentucky but they face a huge uphill battle. Been fortunate enough to watch 3 of Wayne Co's games this year in person and Belfry just hasnt seen this type of precision that they will face friday. A very good line with all state caliber receivers and a QB that will/needs to garner all state attention. I also believe Wayne's defense is being under sold, from what Ive seen they can be very very dominant at times. Granted Ive seen Belfry twice this year in person also and their offense is very hard to stop when they are clicking but turnovers and penalties make this offense look mediocre at times. Belfry cannot resort to stupid mistakes or Wayne will have this one locked up by the 3rd quarter.

If both play perfect games
Wayne by 14 points

If Belfry falls victim to stupid penalites and turnovers
Wayne by 21-28 points

If Wayne shows up nervous and doesnt execute
Toss up

This game will be a tossup either way. I talked to a Wayne County Coach who had nothing but outstanding things to say about Belfry, their coaches, program and community. This will be an uphill battle for Wayne. They arent the favorite in any stretch of the immagination. Belfry has been here before, they have the winningest coach in high school history, they have the backing. Wayne will just show up and play their guts out as will Belfry.

[AtlPirateFan]

My worries in this game is how these seniors will come out. They have been here 3 times before and this is their last shot to get a ring and "legitimize" what they have accomplished these last 4 years. Do they come in tight? Does Sani keep his normal cool or do the memories from 2011 and 2012 come back to haunt him?

[AtlPirateFan]

To add to my previous post. My hope is these Pirate seniors can let the past be the past, they aren't playing Central which should help alleviate some of those memories.

[BelfryPride]

Does Sani keep his normal cool or do the memories from 2011 and 2012 come back to haunt him?

I think the words "UNFINISHED BUSINESS" is the focus this week. Belfry will not be overlooking Wayne at all.

[BelfryPride]

To add to my previous post. My hope is these Pirate seniors can let the past be the past, they aren't playing Central which should help alleviate some of those memories.

Playing someone in BG without the word CENTRAL on the jersey will be refreshing to say in the least.

[Dawg Family]

Good Luck to both teams. As always The Dawg Family has Belfry's back and I think the difference in this game comes down to the Coaching staff. And if your a belfry supporter you would have to feel good about what you have. Mr. Haywood is very hard to beat and his presents over his team would have to be a great feeling to be playing for him. Oh what confidence those guy's has in there coaches. Good luck guy's

[Objective]

Guffey, Tyler Rush Attempts 144 Yards 657 TD 19

Guffey, Tyler Pass Attempts 280 Comp 162 Int 5 Yards 3128 Td 32 Avg per game 223

^ here is the difference in the game I think Belfry comes in as the odds on favorite been saying that for 4 weeks now but, Guffey is a game changer. The thing that will hurts Wayne Co in this game will be the forecast. If it rains it will limit Guffey and Wayne's passing attack .....then I'll take Belfry 14-7

If the rain is light or it doesn't rain I'll take Wayne Co 21-14
Belfry is one dimensional Run only this hurts them Wayne stacks the box

[Crossbones]

Guffey, Tyler Rush Attempts 144 Yards 657 TD 19

Guffey, Tyler Pass Attempts 280 Comp 162 Int 5 Yards 3128 Td 32 Avg per game 223

^ here is the difference in the game I think Belfry comes in as the odds on favorite been saying that for 4 weeks now but, Guffey is a game changer. The thing that will hurts Wayne Co in this game will be the forecast. If it rains it will limit Guffey and Wayne's passing attack .....then I'll take Belfry 14-7

If the rain is light or it doesn't rain I'll take Wayne Co 21-14
Belfry is one dimensional Run only this hurts them Wayne stacks the box

Belfry can throw the ball, don't be fooled by the run game only. They are content with running the ball and moving the chains and controlling the clock. They throw to keep defenses honest. Also, every team that Belfry plays, stacks the box. It has done pretty good for them so far.

[cuppett777]

[quote=EKUAlum05]Long post...every one bare with me as I was thinking about this as I drove back from KY yesterday.

Belfry has seen offenses like Wayne (in fact they have seen several)... just not one identical to them.

Wayne has not seen anything like Belfry. Bell is the closest thing to Belfry but as I mentioned previously the Bobcats don't have a single skill player who might have even seen the field if they played for Belfry.

I love this Wayne County team... I have been following them all year and the comment I made back in October is that Wayne is the type of team I could see losing in the 2nd Round...but at the same time the type of team I could see winning the whole thing.

I am sure someone will get all butthurt about what I am about to say and take their own meaning from it or pick out a certain part of it, but this is the way I view Wayne and it is intended as a very positive compliment:

Wayne County is dominantly an "OK" football team.

What this means is when I look at Wayne I see an undersized team, without any elite speed, without dominant defensive players, and an offense that is predicated on having the other team make the mistakes. The one true playmaker on their team is their gritty QB who doesn't have the strongest arm or the fastest feet. Yet... this team of role players do their job like clockwork.. make each other better... and rarely make any type of critical error. They take exactly what is given to them, they are comfortable going on long drives, and any type they look for the big play it is a very calculated risk with the utmost chance for success.

As I mentioned Belfry has seen several teams I] like[/I] Wayne County. In fact, Belfry has played and even defeated teams just as talented if not substantially more talented... but Wayne is a different animal because they simply execute and are so damn consistent every single time out. What worries me about Wayne is that they are the perfect storm offensively of the players who have hurt Belfry this year:

QB Accuracy- CAK
QB Mobility- Gallia Academy
RB Depth and Skill- Southwestern
Receiver Route Running- CAK
Line Execution (not size or skill)- Johnson Central

Belfry has seen better skill talent (Bourbon/Somerset), they have seen an equally dangerous QB (Bourbon), they have played a bigger,better line (JC and Harlan County), and they have seen better RB's (Bourbon, JC, Harlan Co)..but they have yet to see an offense as well rounded and deficient of blaring weakness like Wayne.

The Belfry defense is playing at a very high level right now... they have a daunting task this week. Wayne isn't a team like Bourbon or JC where one missed tackle equals 6 points.. but they make up for it with the fact that they literally are content taking 6 yards at a time because they are so confident that they will not make a mistake. Belfry has to walk that fine line of playing conservative to force Wayne to play their game, and at the same time dialing up enough calculated risks being taken to disrupt te Wayne flow and force some 3rd and Longs.[/QUOTE
I am not good with my wording,but this is what I would say ,having seen Wanye County on Friday and someor there highlights from this nice..

[AtlPirateFan]

Guffey, Tyler Rush Attempts 144 Yards 657 TD 19

Guffey, Tyler Pass Attempts 280 Comp 162 Int 5 Yards 3128 Td 32 Avg per game 223

^ here is the difference in the game I think Belfry comes in as the odds on favorite been saying that for 4 weeks now but, Guffey is a game changer. The thing that will hurts Wayne Co in this game will be the forecast. If it rains it will limit Guffey and Wayne's passing attack .....then I'll take Belfry 14-7

If the rain is light or it doesn't rain I'll take Wayne Co 21-14
Belfry is one dimensional Run only this hurts them Wayne stacks the box

Those who have played Belfry know what Belfry is going to do, without even needing to see the film. They are going to run, run some more and run some more. It's been that way for many moons and anyone who has played them will tell you it's hard to stop even if you know it's coming. Stacking the box rarely helps and when you do it you open yourself up for Belfry's serviceable but underused passing game. It was 2 quick passes to Keaton Taylor that finally opened up the Bourbon Co defense. The misconception is that Belfry can't pass, when the reality is they choose to use it sparingly.

[Objective]

Belfry can throw the ball, don't be fooled by the run game only. They are content with running the ball and moving the chains and controlling the clock. They throw to keep defenses honest. Also, every team that Belfry plays, stacks the box. It has done pretty good for them so far.

Those who have played Belfry know what Belfry is going to do, without even needing to see the film. They are going to run, run some more and run some more. It's been that way for many moons and anyone who has played them will tell you it's hard to stop even if you know it's coming. Stacking the box rarely helps and when you do it you open yourself up for Belfry's serviceable but underused passing game. It was 2 quick passes to Keaton Taylor that finally opened up the Bourbon Co defense. The misconception is that Belfry can't pass, when the reality is they choose to use it sparingly.

Here's the difference is wayne co will put 9 in the box that will feel like 12 and they will still cover the pass. This is a really good defense probably the best defense Belfry will have seen all year it's not gonna be business as usual trust me on that. We all know Belfry "can" pass they just don't pass well and aren't confident in the pass and only use it as a last resort. Coming from a similar type of offensive school I understand how this hurts in the big games

With that said I feel like this will be the best run attack that Wayne has seen all year and that it will give them fits

now I don't have a horse in this race I'm just pointing out some facts