[Big Chief]

The other part of the college coaching equation is recruiting. There are plenty of guys in college that are average and even below average on the field coaches, but have jobs and get paid because they can recruit. Power 5 college football is all about recruiting. If you can get 4 and 5 stars, you can have a big time job.

[Brother Xavier]

The other part of the college coaching equation is recruiting. There are plenty of guys in college that are average and even below average on the field coaches, but have jobs and get paid because they can recruit. Power 5 college football is all about recruiting. If you can get 4 and 5 stars, you can have a big time job.

Exactly...the old saying goes for college coaching....who you know will get you there...what you know will keep you there (recruiting, motivating players, coaching etc.).

[Brother Xavier]

So getting back to the original post...is that the reason Mullins left Greenup County to go to Dunbar? To better his resume for college?

[Axel Foley]

It is 100% WHO YOU KNOW to move up the "ladder"....whether in college or in high school. I have known lots of guys who were assistants at the high school level who made the jump to college because of WHO THEY KNEW.

And probably were not very good coaches.

[Don Draper]

So getting back to the original post...is that the reason Mullins left Greenup County to go to Dunbar? To better his resume for college?

I'm assuming this is a joke.

Check out the KHSAA Scoreboard. He had a 20+ game losing streak at Greenup County and a 10+ game losing streak at Paul Dunbar.

Any updates on who is applying for this job. I heard a name in the beginning of last week and haven't heard it since. Also heard there is a coach who is still in the playoffs that is interested. hh:

[legend66]

its more to do with the time they stay probably it sounds like it will take time to build a really solid program there

[Iam4thecats]

If Dunbar doesn't hire a coach till after spring ball and toward the very end of the school year don't be surprised. They will probably wait to see what teachers are retiring and hire the best in that subject area that also happens to coach football and apply for the job.

[Redzone]

If Dunbar doesn't hire a coach till after spring ball and toward the very end of the school year don't be surprised. They will probably wait to see what teachers are retiring and hire the best in that subject area that also happens to coach football and apply for the job.

Not true, won't happen

[Don Draper]

Not true, won't happen

Was told they want a new coach in place by January 1. Won't be long...

[Strikeout King]

I'm assuming this is a joke.

Check out the KHSAA Scoreboard. He had a 20+ game losing streak at Greenup County and a 10+ game losing streak at Paul Dunbar.

Any updates on who is applying for this job. I heard a name in the beginning of last week and haven't heard it since. Also heard there is a coach who is still in the playoffs that is interested. hh:

I'm not knocking the guy at all but it makes you wonder that if he did have a 20+ game losing streak at Greenup (which I believe you) why on earth Dunbar would hire him in the first place?

[Texas2step]

I also was told that they will have someone in first of the year. This is a very important offseason for them and they want the new coach to really sell the program to the kids in the school to increase numbers.

[Big Chief]

I'm not knocking the guy at all but it makes you wonder that if he did have a 20+ game losing streak at Greenup (which I believe you) why on earth Dunbar would hire him in the first place?

Having head coaching experience carries a lot of weight with hiring committees. It really doesn't matter if it is successful or unsuccessful.

[Don Draper]

I'm not knocking the guy at all but it makes you wonder that if he did have a 20+ game losing streak at Greenup (which I believe you) why on earth Dunbar would hire him in the first place?

I'd say that is a question a lot of people have asked especially when other former head coaches applied with much better records, like Oliver Lucas who is at George Rogers Clark.

[Coach Booth]

Any rumors on who’s interested in this job?

[Friday Night]

You have to take in to account what Mullins had when he took over at Greenup. The former coach left Greenup in shambles. I think Mullins had maybe 25 kids on the roster his first year as HC at Greenup. I think what Dunbar saw in him was his progression with the Greenup program. Each year was better than the last and so on. It was a very rough beginning for him. Now Greenup has winning seasons going to playoffs and keeping around 70 kids or more on the roster. There are still kids on that team Mullins coached. Grizzle is doing a fantastic job building on what Mullins created but make no mistake Mullins is the reason Greenup is where it is today. Maybe that’s what Dunbar saw.

[Coach Booth]

You have to take in to account what Mullins had when he took over at Greenup. The former coach left Greenup in shambles. I think Mullins had maybe 25 kids on the roster his first year as HC at Greenup. I think what Dunbar saw in him was his progression with the Greenup program. Each year was better than the last and so on. It was a very rough beginning for him. Now Greenup has winning seasons going to playoffs and keeping around 70 kids or more on the roster. There are still kids on that team Mullins coached. Grizzle is doing a fantastic job building on what Mullins created but make no mistake Mullins is the reason Greenup is where it is today. Maybe that’s what Dunbar saw.

I agree Mullins took over at Greenup with a depleted roster. I do believe that they’ve found a gem in Grizzle.

[Friday Night]

I agree Mullins took over at Greenup with a depleted roster. I do believe that they’ve found a gem in Grizzle.

Oh, I completely agree. Grizzle has the boys loving football again. The off season weight program is huge and the boys love Grizzle. He’s very involved in the whole program not just varisty and I believe you will only see Greenup get better and better. Just want to give credit to Mullins for the great work he did turning the program at Greenup. I hope he decides to coach again someday.

[Redzone]

You have to take in to account what Mullins had when he took over at Greenup. The former coach left Greenup in shambles. I think Mullins had maybe 25 kids on the roster his first year as HC at Greenup. I think what Dunbar saw in him was his progression with the Greenup program. Each year was better than the last and so on. It was a very rough beginning for him. Now Greenup has winning seasons going to playoffs and keeping around 70 kids or more on the roster. There are still kids on that team Mullins coached. Grizzle is doing a fantastic job building on what Mullins created but make no mistake Mullins is the reason Greenup is where it is today. Maybe that’s what Dunbar saw.

Not meaning this to be disrespectful in anyway, I don't believe winning against one team with a winning record in 5 years a major accomplishment. I realize they were at rock bottom, but that's like saying I was bench pressing 50 lbs and now I am at 125 lbs. Yeah you did something but major accomplishment, ummm a stretch. Think he won like 16 games in 5 years, one by forfeit.

[Friday Night]

Not meaning this to be disrespectful in anyway, I don't believe winning against one team with a winning record in 5 years a major accomplishment. I realize they were at rock bottom, but that's like saying I was bench pressing 50 lbs and now I am at 125 lbs. Yeah you did something but major accomplishment, ummm a stretch. Think he won like 16 games in 5 years, one by forfeit.

Well I disagree with that. I don’t think you have a clue about the dire situation Greenup was in at that time. The coach before Mullins completely and utterly wrecked not only the program but the booster club as well. It took many years to rectify what that coach done to the program and Mullins definitely left Greenup in a much better position than when he took the job.
I understand where Dunbar fans are coming from but it’s not realistic for a coach to turn a program around in 2 years.

[Friday Night]

Good luck to Dunbar on their search for a new coach.

[The Eagle has landed]

I'm not knocking the guy at all but it makes you wonder that if he did have a 20+ game losing streak at Greenup (which I believe you) why on earth Dunbar would hire him in the first place?

Because he was a math teacher!!!! That is how Lexington works they don't give a damn about athletics. PERIOD!!!!! anyone who says otherwise is clueless

[The Eagle has landed]

You have to take in to account what Mullins had when he took over at Greenup. The former coach left Greenup in shambles. I think Mullins had maybe 25 kids on the roster his first year as HC at Greenup. I think what Dunbar saw in him was his progression with the Greenup program. Each year was better than the last and so on. It was a very rough beginning for him. Now Greenup has winning seasons going to playoffs and keeping around 70 kids or more on the roster. There are still kids on that team Mullins coached. Grizzle is doing a fantastic job building on what Mullins created but make no mistake Mullins is the reason Greenup is where it is today. Maybe that’s what Dunbar saw.

Then maybe someone like Tennessee will hire the guy from Kent St that just got fired because he won like 10 games in 4 years or something! Give me a break stop making excuses for them hiring the guy!!! THEY DON T GIVE A @#%$! An aweful hire. If you cant win then you shouldn't get another head coaching job. The admin should be fired for the hire, think about what that does to the poor kids that play there.

[Fly Like a Duck]

Then maybe someone like Tennessee will hire the guy from Kent St that just got fired because he won like 10 games in 4 years or something! Give me a break stop making excuses for them hiring the guy!!! THEY DON T GIVE A @#%$! An aweful hire. If you cant win then you shouldn't get another head coaching job. The admin should be fired for the hire, think about what that does to the poor kids that play there.

Eagle; 1st of all you're probably one of my favorite poster's on here. Your passion? 2nd to none.

However; using your logic:

1) You're saying that PLD is a UT on the high school level and it's not.

2) If others followed your suggestion of never needing to be hired again if your first stop was a failed attempt, then Robbie Lucas would have never been hired at Somerset (check his 2-3 year stint at Lincoln County back in the early 2000's).

Kevin Wallace should have never been hired as the HFC at Bowling Green (I'm almost positive his career record as the HC at Warren East over 10 years yielded a some 20 game below .500 record, with NOT ONE winning season and NO playoff wins)

Steve Duncan who is now the HC at Paducah Tilghman owns 20 STRAIGHT losses of the 40+ game losing streak that Logan County once had that spanned over 3 coaches. He's also the same Steve Duncan that brought Murray High back to being relevant and then some again from 2008-2013 appearing in Region and State Semi's like it was their job.

Those are just a couple of examples; I have others. But, you're picking up what I'm laying down. It's not always the coach.

[panther71]

Dunbar has a competitive disadvantage in Fayette County. I am all about academics but they have placed a strict participation requirement on their athletes when it comes to grades. These expectations are even greater than what the KHSAA has deemed eligible. Therefore, any student athlete who is eligible by KHSAA could be deemed ineligible by the administration. This might not be a big deal but it is when you have other schools within the district. For example, if administration deems a student ineligible , KHSAA eligible, then they can transfer to another team in Fayette County and play. Good luck to Dunbar in their coaching search!

[Fly Like a Duck]

Straight from their school website.

To be eligible to participate in the Dunbar Football Program students must meet all KHSAA standards, Fayette County Board of Education standards, and Paul Laurence Dunbar High School 's policies and procedures adopted by the SBDM Council. We want our program to be outstanding on and off the field. We expect our players to be of impeccable character and values. Only then can you truly be a winning team!

FRESHMEN - Must be promoted to the 9th grade.

SOPHOMORES - Must have an unweighted 2.0 GPA in six classes from the previous semester, including summer school and/or correspondence and/or credit recovery, by the 1st day of school. The student must have 5.5 credits toward graduation

JUNIORS - Must have an unweighted 2.0 GPA in six classes from the previous semester, including summer school and/or correspondence and/or credit recovery, by the 1st day of school. The student must have 12 credits toward graduation

SENIORS - Must have an unweighted 2.0 GPA in six classes from the previous semester, including summer school and/or correspondence and/or credit recovery, by the 1st day of school. The student must have 18.5 credits toward graduation.

TRANSFER STUDENTS - Shall meet KHSAA standards - after semester ends they must meet Paul Laurence Dunbar High School standards.

WEEKLY GRADE CHECKS - All students participating in Dunbar Football shall have a weekly grade check during the season. They must be passing 6 classes each week. Grades will be checked on Fridays (or last day of the week) and coaches will be notified that the athlete is ineligible to participate in game/practice activities for the following 7 days (or until grades will be checked again). Supplemental grade sheets are due by Monday before 3:30 p.m.

ATTENDANCE - Students must be in attendance half of that day in order to practice or compete in a game.

SUMMER SCHOOL/CORRESPONDENCE COURSES - A student may take classes to raise their GPA or gain credits toward graduation. These courses must be completed and grades in the Registrar's office on or before the 1st day of school for students.

[Don Draper]

Well I disagree with that. I don’t think you have a clue about the dire situation Greenup was in at that time. The coach before Mullins completely and utterly wrecked not only the program but the booster club as well. It took many years to rectify what that coach done to the program and Mullins definitely left Greenup in a much better position than when he took the job.
I understand where Dunbar fans are coming from but it’s not realistic for a coach to turn a program around in 2 years.

Mike Copely was the coach before Chris Mullins. He may have ran down the numbers and the booster club, but he did not do enough damage to cause a 23-game losing streak. C'mon! That's just ignorance.

From the looks of it, Coach Mullins had a group of kids who played quite a bit of football as freshmen and sophomores. Once they became juniors and seniors, they won a little. If he gets credit for those two seasons, then he should get credit for the first three.

Those who know him say he is a nice guy, but doesn't have what it takes to be a head coach. The Dunbar job wasn't just a bad fit, it was way too big for him. His work ethic wasn't very good. He was never in the weight room. He also missed several practices during the season. There are apparently issues that go deeper than this, but I won't get into those. These are facts from people who know.

[Redzone]

Well I disagree with that. I don’t think you have a clue about the dire situation Greenup was in at that time. The coach before Mullins completely and utterly wrecked not only the program but the booster club as well. It took many years to rectify what that coach done to the program and Mullins definitely left Greenup in a much better position than when he took the job.
I understand where Dunbar fans are coming from but it’s not realistic for a coach to turn a program around in 2 years.

The numbers and the record speak for themselves

[Don Draper]

Dunbar has a competitive disadvantage in Fayette County. I am all about academics but they have placed a strict participation requirement on their athletes when it comes to grades. These expectations are even greater than what the KHSAA has deemed eligible. Therefore, any student athlete who is eligible by KHSAA could be deemed ineligible by the administration. This might not be a big deal but it is when you have other schools within the district. For example, if administration deems a student ineligible , KHSAA eligible, then they can transfer to another team in Fayette County and play. Good luck to Dunbar in their coaching search!

This is interesting.

Do you think Dunbar can consistently win in the district with the right person? Do you think this hurt Chris Mullins chances of being successful?

[GoHerd_22]

You have to take in to account what Mullins had when he took over at Greenup. The former coach left Greenup in shambles. I think Mullins had maybe 25 kids on the roster his first year as HC at Greenup. I think what Dunbar saw in him was his progression with the Greenup program. Each year was better than the last and so on. It was a very rough beginning for him. Now Greenup has winning seasons going to playoffs and keeping around 70 kids or more on the roster. There are still kids on that team Mullins coached. Grizzle is doing a fantastic job building on what Mullins created but make no mistake Mullins is the reason Greenup is where it is today. Maybe that’s what Dunbar saw.

Mullins won 13 lost 40 in 6 seasons at greenup. You are right greenup is where they are today because of Mullins which is a long way from beating good teams. Grizzle doing a great job but he's fighting through the mess Mullins left him and has won 13 in first 2 years.

[Willie Turnover]

Straight from their school website.

To be eligible to participate in the Dunbar Football Program students must meet all KHSAA standards, Fayette County Board of Education standards, and Paul Laurence Dunbar High School 's policies and procedures adopted by the SBDM Council. We want our program to be outstanding on and off the field. We expect our players to be of impeccable character and values. Only then can you truly be a winning team!
FRESHMEN - Must be promoted to the 9th grade.

SOPHOMORES - Must have an unweighted 2.0 GPA in six classes from the previous semester, including summer school and/or correspondence and/or credit recovery, by the 1st day of school. The student must have 5.5 credits toward graduation

JUNIORS - Must have an unweighted 2.0 GPA in six classes from the previous semester, including summer school and/or correspondence and/or credit recovery, by the 1st day of school. The student must have 12 credits toward graduation

SENIORS - Must have an unweighted 2.0 GPA in six classes from the previous semester, including summer school and/or correspondence and/or credit recovery, by the 1st day of school. The student must have 18.5 credits toward graduation.

TRANSFER STUDENTS - Shall meet KHSAA standards - after semester ends they must meet Paul Laurence Dunbar High School standards.

WEEKLY GRADE CHECKS - All students participating in Dunbar Football shall have a weekly grade check during the season. They must be passing 6 classes each week. Grades will be checked on Fridays (or last day of the week) and coaches will be notified that the athlete is ineligible to participate in game/practice activities for the following 7 days (or until grades will be checked again). Supplemental grade sheets are due by Monday before 3:30 p.m.

ATTENDANCE - Students must be in attendance half of that day in order to practice or compete in a game.

SUMMER SCHOOL/CORRESPONDENCE COURSES - A student may take classes to raise their GPA or gain credits toward graduation. These courses must be completed and grades in the Registrar's office on or before the 1st day of school for students.

:dontthinkI think Fran Curci proved that wrong in the 70's.:dontthink