Can Hazard play with Johnson Central?

~~Mr.Kimball~~ · 10-06-2008, 11:58 PM

bac2369 Wrote:He is actually 27 to be exact. So what does the age have to do with anything? All he is saying that Hazard can play with these big teams and win if they come to play. Thats his opinion and no one elses. I myself believe Hazard can play with JC but i dont know if its going to get them a win. But Hazard will not back down and will not give up until the game is over.

Hmmm.

**jetpilot** · 10-07-2008, 12:00 AM

cj2561 Wrote:We will forget about this game next year. Up here in Hazard we don't live on the on our 47 winning seasons. We are just as good as we are this year.

I can't decipher any of that.

IRISH4 · 10-07-2008, 12:01 AM

bearcountry Wrote:i plan on attending this game but like i said the ones playing on the johnson central team this year once played on the 7th and 8th grade team to...all iam saying if the high school plays like there 7th and 8th grade hazard will win and iam hoping that they will win too JC is wayyy to over rated i think the best teams in the mountains right now would have to be hazard and letcher central i have seen iall three teams play this year and the only to that makes me excited is lcc and hazard well iam hoping hazard will pull it off go DAWGS......

Everything about that statement is a joke. The JC 7th and 8th is coached by Eddie Blair who is not Jim Matney. Also, this is high school football not middle school. As for JC being overrated....Hazard has everyone back this year and should be killing people but aren't.....I think Raceland would give them a good game and I definately don't see but maybe one team on the JC schedule that they could beat and that being Montgomery Co. No way they are in a game with half of the teams the Eagles have played. Also, I hate to burst your bubble but Bell Co., Belfry, Ashland and Russell are better than both of your top two teams. You can not compare middle school to varsity, and you can't compare JC to Perry Central...they are just two different leagues.

cj2561 · 10-07-2008, 12:06 AM

Mr.Kimball Wrote:According to the Massey ratings, Hazard plays one of the weakest schedules in the state, while it records Johnson Central as playing one of the strongest in the state. Yet, for the most Johnson Central has dominated just about every team they have played. Not really understanding where you get the logic for much of what you say.

I cant help but believe that from the way your posts sound you are very young. Is that the case?

I am 27, i play on Hazard 97 team that went 10-0. If i remember right Paintsville beat Johnson Centrsal that year by 2 or 3 TDS, We beat Paintsville that year by 4 or 5 TDS. It is still the same school. But now it is a 5A, not a 3A or 4A like they was back then.

~~Mr.Kimball~~ · 10-07-2008, 12:11 AM

cj2561 Wrote:I am 27, i play on Hazard 97 team that went 10-0. If i remember right Paintsville beat Johnson Centrsal that year by 2 or 3 TDS, We beat Paintsville that year by 4 or 5 TDS. It is still the same school. But now it is a 5A, not a 3A or 4A like they was back then.

:confused: :confused: :confused:

Obviously we cant blame it all on age then, can we? Rules that out.

Oh well, just another "Hmmmmm", I guess.

warmachine · (This post was last modified: 10-08-2008, 08:07 PM by 15thRegionCrazy.)

I really believe Hazard is due for a Big Time game. I dont think JC has seen anyone with Greg Adam's speed. Tyler Olinger will be the best Quaterback JC has faced. Guess what, he will be almost 100% against you JC. They have a new guy that will be eligible that runs a 4.4 and is tough as nails that will be playing in the secondary for the first time this year he is eligible. Micheal Campbell and Josh Kidd will be back. I think JC will bite off more than can chew in this one. Good luck Dawgs and break it off in them. :flame:

IRISH4 · 10-07-2008, 12:13 AM

cj2561 Wrote:I am 27, i play on Hazard 97 team that went 10-0. If i remember right Paintsville beat Johnson Centrsal that year by 2 or 3 TDS, We beat Paintsville that year by 4 or 5 TDS. It is still the same school. But now it is a 5A, not a 3A or 4A like they was back then.

I don't remember Paintsville playing Hazard in 97, Hazard wasn't in the district until '99 when they had a running back named Shamar Beaty who was a monster and that year they won by 5 TD's at Hazard.

~~Mr.Kimball~~ · 10-07-2008, 12:16 AM

warmachine Wrote:I really believe Hazard is due for a Big Time game. I dont think JC has seen anyone with Greg Adam's speed. Tyler Olinger will be the best Quaterback JC has faced. Guess what, he will be almost 100% against you JC. They have a new guy that will be eligible that runs a 4.4 and is tough as nails that will be playing in the secondary for the first time this year he is eligible. Micheal Campbell and Josh Kidd will be back. I think JC will bite off more than can chew in this one. Laugh it up but HHS will have to much speed for all your slow white boys on your new turf. Good luck Dawgs and break it off in them. :flame:

Every year there is some sort of a high profile QB that comes out of Hazard. Wonder why none of them seem to be able to make it at the next level?

Some of you Hazard folks need to take a drive out of the "holler" and see the rest of the world. It's a great big'en.

~~Mr.Kimball~~ · 10-07-2008, 12:18 AM

IRISH4 Wrote:I don't remember Paintsville playing Hazard in 97, Hazard wasn't in the district until '99 when they had a running back named Shamar Beaty who was a monster and that year they won by 5 TD's at Hazard.

Hey your messin with the wrong guy here IRISH. He graduated there 11 years ago at the ripe old age of 16. He must be one sharp cookie.

~~Mr.Kimball~~ · 10-07-2008, 12:21 AM

warmachine Wrote:I really believe Hazard is due for a Big Time game. I dont think JC has seen anyone with Greg Adam's speed. Tyler Olinger will be the best Quaterback JC has faced. Guess what, he will be almost 100% against you JC. They have a new guy that will be eligible that runs a 4.4 and is tough as nails that will be playing in the secondary for the first time this year he is eligible. Micheal Campbell and Josh Kidd will be back. I think JC will bite off more than can chew in this one. Laugh it up but HHS will have to much speed for all your slow white boys on your new turf. Good luck Dawgs and break it off in them. :flame:

Perry Central didn't seem to have much problem with their chaw, did they?

IRISH4 · 10-07-2008, 12:21 AM

Mr.Kimball Wrote:Hey your messin with the wrong guy here IRISH. He graduated there 11 years ago at the age of 16. He must be one sharp cookie.

I must be...the real life Doogie Howser.

**bac2369** · 10-07-2008, 12:22 AM

hazards record in 99.

Aug 20, 99 Pineville home 22 - 28 (L)
Aug 27, 99 Danville home 8 - 37 (L)
Sep 3, 99 Fleming-Neon away 34 - 7 (W) District game
Sep 10, 99 Pikeville home 20 - 56 (L) District game
Sep 17, 99 Perry County Central home 21 - 13 (W)
Sep 24, 99 Jenkins away 38 - 18 (W)
Oct 1, 99 Open
Oct 8, 99 South Floyd home 49 - 28 (W) District game
Oct 15, 99 Paintsville home 33 - 0 (W) District game
Oct 22, 99 Elkhorn City away 41 - 6 (W) District game
Oct 29, 99 Phelps away 57 - 0 (W) District game
Nov 5, 99 Lynn Camp home 7 - 23

In 2000 Hazard lost twice to paintsville,
2001 they lost once
2002 lost once
2003 beat paintsville
2004 Lost once
2005 lost once
2006 beat them twice
2007 never played each other
2008 Possibly play in second round of the playoffs.

I dont remember hazard playing them in 97 either or to my knowledge.

cj2561 · 10-07-2008, 12:22 AM

IRISH4 Wrote:Everything about that statement is a joke. The JC 7th and 8th is coached by Eddie Blair who is not Jim Matney. Also, this is high school football not middle school. As for JC being overrated....Hazard has everyone back this year and should be killing people but aren't.....I think Raceland would give them a good game and I definately don't see but maybe one team on the JC schedule that they could beat and that being Montgomery Co. No way they are in a game with half of the teams the Eagles have played. Also, I hate to burst your bubble but Bell Co., Belfry, Ashland and Russell are better than both of your top two teams. You can not compare middle school to varsity, and you can't compare JC to Perry Central...they are just two different leagues.

The first game of the year Hazard had the big head against Green County and it showed.. Hazard is not Breathitt Co. They can pass better than breathitt co, and run the ball almost as better. Johnson Central will be looking over Hazard because they are a 1 A.

~~Mr.Kimball~~ · 10-07-2008, 12:24 AM

cj2561 Wrote:The first game of the year Hazard had the big head against Green County and it showed.. Hazard is not Breathitt Co. They can pass better than breathitt co, and run the ball almost as better. Johnson Central will be looking over Hazard because they are a 1 A.

Hmmmmmm.

Has a way of saying it all, doesn't it? Smile

cj2561 · 10-07-2008, 12:24 AM

IRISH4 Wrote:I don't remember Paintsville playing Hazard in 97, Hazard wasn't in the district until '99 when they had a running back named Shamar Beaty who was a monster and that year they won by 5 TD's at Hazard.

Paintsville was in Hazard district, so was Pikeville.

IRISH4 · 10-07-2008, 12:24 AM

He said the 97 Hazard team played Paintsville, I know the 99 team did because I was on that team and I was also on the teams that beat Hazard 5 times in a row over a 3yr span when they had Sizemore who is a much better QB than the Olinger kid and had I guess his older brother at WR.

**jetpilot** · 10-07-2008, 12:26 AM

Mr.Kimball Wrote:Every year there is some sort of a high profile QB that comes out of Hazard. Wonder why none of them seem to be able to make it at the next level?

Some of you Hazard folks need to take a drive out of the "holler" and see the rest of the world. It's a great big'en.

The Johnson County hollers will be a nice change of pace for them. Also, here is an article with reference to a Hazard player that made it big on the next level...for people who don't follow football much...

http://www.enquirer.com/bearcats/2002/12...foot7.html

IRISH4 · 10-07-2008, 12:30 AM

cj2561 Wrote:Paintsville was in Hazard district, so was Pikeville.

Paintsville was in the district with Raceland, Berea, Nicholas Co., Bath Co. and crew. They did play Hazard in 96 in the Big Sandy Bowl though.

~~Mr.Kimball~~ · 10-07-2008, 12:32 AM

bac2369 Wrote:hazards record in 99.

Aug 20, 99 Pineville home 22 - 28 (L)
Aug 27, 99 Danville home 8 - 37 (L)
Sep 3, 99 Fleming-Neon away 34 - 7 (W) District game
Sep 10, 99 Pikeville home 20 - 56 (L) District game
Sep 17, 99 Perry County Central home 21 - 13 (W)
Sep 24, 99 Jenkins away 38 - 18 (W)
Oct 1, 99 Open
Oct 8, 99 South Floyd home 49 - 28 (W) District game
Oct 15, 99 Paintsville home 33 - 0 (W) District game
Oct 22, 99 Elkhorn City away 41 - 6 (W) District game
Oct 29, 99 Phelps away 57 - 0 (W) District game
Nov 5, 99 Lynn Camp home 7 - 23 (L)

And all of this means what?

**bac2369** · 10-07-2008, 12:35 AM

Mr.Kimball Wrote:And all of this means what?

It means nothing. Someone posted about the district team in 99 that beat paintsville by 4 or 5 tds and i can't remember hazard playing them in 97. So i just posted the schedule with results. I believe we need to get back on the topic of this thread and not worry about the past.

~~Mr.Kimball~~ · 10-07-2008, 12:35 AM

jetpilot Wrote:The Johnson County hollers will be a nice change of pace for them. Also, here is an article with reference to a Hazard player that made it big on the next level...for people who don't follow football much...

http://www.enquirer.com/bearcats/2002/12...foot7.html

Uhhh, I said quarterback at the college level. Big difference in catching it and throwing it.......for people who dont follow football much..... Smile

**bac2369** · 10-07-2008, 12:39 AM

Mr.Kimball Wrote:Uhhh, I said quarterback at the college level. Big difference in catching it and throwing it.......for people who dont follow football much.....

I have a question. How many QB's has Johnson Central put into a D-1 College.

**jetpilot** · 10-07-2008, 12:39 AM

Mr.Kimball Wrote:Uhhh, I said quarterback at the college level. Big difference in catching it and throwing it.......for people who dont follow football much.

You didn't say quarterback at the next level. You didn't specify a position at the next level. Point is Hazard has had big-time D-1 athletes in the past.

cj2561 · 10-07-2008, 12:40 AM

Mr.Kimball Wrote:Uhhh, I said quarterback at the college level. Big difference in catching it and throwing it.......for people who dont follow football much.....

There is alot of boy from Hazard that went to college. But there only been one that i can remember that went to a D1 college.

~~Mr.Kimball~~ · 10-07-2008, 12:40 AM

jetpilot Wrote:You didn't say quarterback at the next level. You didn't specify a position at the next level. Point is Hazard has had big-time D-1 athletes in the past.

Didn't say they didn't.

~~Mr.Kimball~~ · 10-07-2008, 12:41 AM

bac2369 Wrote:I have a question. How many QB's has Johnson Central put into a D-1 College.

Didn't say they had any.

**jetpilot** · 10-07-2008, 12:43 AM

Mr.Kimball Wrote:Didn't say they didn't.

Yeah you did. You said none of their high profile QBs ever made it at the next level. I proved you wrong with the link I provided. Their high profile QB Jon Olinger made it BIG at the next level.

cj2561 · 10-07-2008, 12:44 AM

Mr.Kimball Wrote:Didn't say they had any.

None that i know of. But i am not saying they don't have any.

cj2561 · 10-07-2008, 12:46 AM

jetpilot Wrote:Yeah you did. You said none of their high profile QBs ever made it at the next level. I proved you wrong with the link I provided. Their high profile QB Jon Olinger made it BIG at the next level.

Jon wasn't a QB, he was a WR.

**bac2369** · 10-07-2008, 12:47 AM

jetpilot Wrote:Yeah you did. You said none of their high profile QBs ever made it at the next level. I proved you wrong with the link I provided. Their high profile QB Jon Olinger made it BIG at the next level.

I thought that Jon Olinger played reciever in high school.